View Full Version : Finally Squatted 500 Pounds (vid)
Juic3
03-14-2009, 10:32 PM
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Stumbled so couldn't rack it.
-DoPeMaN-
03-14-2009, 10:37 PM
Nice man, im barley breaking 200!
How long you been squatting?
hercules71185
03-14-2009, 10:40 PM
Put the damn bar higher on your back and stand up like a person not a pre-evolutionary ape. lol. Or a turtle. You will be able to rack it MUCH easier and you can even do MORE. You got the leg power, but, your making it a back workout and your back is weaker than your legs.
I think if you move the bar, keep your back straight and STAND UP you can do 550lbs.
hercules71185
03-14-2009, 10:42 PM
ps you got the same big ass legs and glutes I do so you can lift heavy as hell if you train a lot. (no homo)
Juic3
03-15-2009, 12:01 AM
Nice man, im barley breaking 200!
How long you been squatting?
Ive been squatting for like 4 years I guess for thats how long I've been training. I squatted 445 for a max last year around this time.
Juic3
03-15-2009, 12:23 AM
Put the damn bar higher on your back and stand up like a person not a pre-evolutionary ape. lol. Or a turtle. You will be able to rack it MUCH easier and you can even do MORE. You got the leg power, but, your making it a back workout and your back is weaker than your legs.
I think if you move the bar, keep your back straight and STAND UP you can do 550lbs.
I know im working on my form, I tried 515 after the 500, the weight was light but I messed up and couldn't get it, the vid is below.
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singyay4ed
03-15-2009, 03:07 AM
Strong goodmorning.
PowerTricks
03-15-2009, 03:17 AM
Put the damn bar higher on your back and stand up like a person not a pre-evolutionary ape. lol. Or a turtle. You will be able to rack it MUCH easier and you can even do MORE. You got the leg power, but, your making it a back workout and your back is weaker than your legs.
I think if you move the bar, keep your back straight and STAND UP you can do 550lbs.
He's using an EXTREME low bar racking technique lol.
hercules71185
03-15-2009, 03:26 AM
He's using an EXTREME low bar racking technique lol.
haha
yea, and to the OP look at your shoot up off the lower part of the 515 you have NO problem jumping with it. At least your power is a lack of bar placement, my max is just because I can't put more weight on the bar because I'm too much of a pussy and it hurts my traps.
hercules71185
03-15-2009, 03:27 AM
Strong goodmorning.
I was thinking about that at first lol.
someonefat
03-15-2009, 03:40 AM
Your form looked better a year ago when you hit 425 for an EASY single.
PumpinPaddy
03-15-2009, 03:46 AM
there is a strong possibility you will injure yourself and others
piszczel
03-15-2009, 05:14 AM
there is a strong possibility you will injure yourself and others
This.
You are leaning forward so much for some reason, you need to fix that ASAP...
The_cannibal
03-15-2009, 08:50 AM
The bar shouldnt be lower than the top of your scapula. That's why the bar fell off, because it didn't even seem to be resting on your scapulas.
Also, using an extreme-low-bar position forces you to lean way too far forward, in order to keep the center of gravity over your feet, which results in the aforementionned good morning of the weight.
Hope this helps, and good luck.
cjdelaney
03-15-2009, 11:26 AM
remember when you made that form check thread and eveyone told you that your form was god-awful-heinous b/c you have the bar racked halfway down your back?
I remember that.
Seriously, you need to fix that. You also aren't hitting depth and since you begin the squat halfway bent-over, you aren't even finishing the squat. Youtube some powerlifters squatting, you wont find anyone else doing what you do. That should tell you something.
Also if I ran that gym I would definitely kick you out for safety reasons.
I'm really not trying to be a dick, but... jesus man.
rugby121
03-15-2009, 01:37 PM
Crazy stuff, you attempting a tallguy "i place the bar on my lats" squat?
isaku900
03-15-2009, 01:42 PM
agree with everything someonefat, the cannibal and cjdelaney said..
you still haven't squatted 500.
red lights for:
not starting with your legs locked, depth, not recovering to lockout.
Too much weight, looked like a half ass good morning.
Newbtime
03-15-2009, 01:46 PM
your bar position is WAY to low causing you to lean over so far... if you didnt lean over like that the bar would fall off your back.
switch to a high bar placement.
Duke999
03-15-2009, 01:47 PM
congrats on putting up 500 bro but u gotta do something a little different or ur gonna seriously injure ur back.
qdiddy69
03-15-2009, 01:50 PM
your strong as hell but your form was scary
Juic3
03-15-2009, 02:20 PM
Your form looked better a year ago when you hit 425 for an EASY single.
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Yeah it was a lot better, I will try to put the bar higher up behind my traps in todays squat workout, will post vids for form check if I can get my video guy to come.
BEhave
03-15-2009, 02:29 PM
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Yeah it was a lot better, I will try to put the bar higher up behind my traps in todays squat workout, will post vids for form check if I can get my video guy to come.
That's better
Newbtime
03-15-2009, 03:14 PM
red lights for:
not starting with your legs locked, depth, not recovering to lockout.
Invisible powerlifting meet?
SoaringSwine
03-15-2009, 03:19 PM
red lights for:
not starting with your legs locked, depth, not recovering to lockout.
In addition to what the centre ref stated...
"The bar shall be held horizontally across the shoulders, hands and fingers gripping the bar, and the top of the bar not more than the thickness of the bar below the outer edge of the shoulders."
And another red from the side ref (who happens to have psychic powers to be able to see behind the plates).
zoina21
03-15-2009, 03:24 PM
you will break your spine
touchofevil04
03-15-2009, 04:22 PM
Nice power but you have got to be doin some damage to your back with the bar so low.
gymratharris
03-15-2009, 05:38 PM
I don't mean to hijack the thread but this is a vid of me squatting 500x1 and 455x4. Is the bar too low on my back also? I maintain a good arch but I definitely have a bit of good morning going on.
Didn't have time to edit the vid so at the beginning I walkout with 500 but couldn't get my feet set right so I reracked it before actually going for the 500x1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNqAwbcgd5M
hercules71185
03-15-2009, 06:05 PM
I don't mean to hijack the thread but this is a vid of me squatting 500x1 and 455x4. Is the bar too low on my back also? I maintain a good arch but I definitely have a bit of good morning going on.
Didn't have time to edit the vid so at the beginning I walkout with 500 but couldn't get my feet set right so I reracked it before actually going for the 500x1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNqAwbcgd5M
work on your core strength, obliques, abs, lower back, and calves. It should help out with your balance problems.
Poppy83
03-15-2009, 06:26 PM
I don't mean to hijack the thread but this is a vid of me squatting 500x1 and 455x4. Is the bar too low on my back also? I maintain a good arch but I definitely have a bit of good morning going on.
Didn't have time to edit the vid so at the beginning I walkout with 500 but couldn't get my feet set right so I reracked it before actually going for the 500x1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNqAwbcgd5M
You look to have the power, but you did have a bit of a good morning. You sat back into the squat, but it looked like you kept your ass back throughout the lift. Powering through with your hips will help. (This is in addition to what the guy above me said)
DJSTARER
03-15-2009, 06:36 PM
to me, it seems your core strength and lower back is solid. If it was weak, you would not be able to maintain that posture through your entire lift. The real problem you are facing is your upper back strength. Either a) you need to find a higher bar position, or b) you need to get your shoulders, traps, lats and middle back MUCH stronger so you can actually maintain that bar position while standing upright. You are only hunched over because the bar would slide right off your back when you stand up straight. This is a common occurrence when people lower their bar positions. You just happen to have a VERY low bar position.
To think your lower back and core is weak is preposterous. You manage to keep a constant posture with 500 lbs and a velco belt.
Lifeman89
03-15-2009, 07:59 PM
agree with everything someonefat, the cannibal and cjdelaney said..
you still haven't squatted 500.
red lights for:
not starting with your legs locked, depth, not recovering to lockout.
prob would have been called for bar position and he wasn't upright enough either to even start the lift.
edit: in addition to everything you already said!
isaku900
03-15-2009, 08:12 PM
prob would have been called for bar position and he wasn't upright enough either to even start the lift.
edit: in addition to everything you already said!
that too.
Juic3
03-15-2009, 11:28 PM
to me, it seems your core strength and lower back is solid. If it was weak, you would not be able to maintain that posture through your entire lift. The real problem you are facing is your upper back strength. Either a) you need to find a higher bar position, or b) you need to get your shoulders, traps, lats and middle back MUCH stronger so you can actually maintain that bar position while standing upright. You are only hunched over because the bar would slide right off your back when you stand up straight. This is a common occurrence when people lower their bar positions. You just happen to have a VERY low bar position.
To think your lower back and core is weak is preposterous. You manage to keep a constant posture with 500 lbs and a velco belt.
Thanks for the critique, I like this bar position and I'm definitely not going to change it. (although I will try putting it an inch higher).
If I can go to the proper depth with the bar positioned like that, then why would it be dis-allowed? Anthony Clark benched with a reverse grip and that was allowed, so why wouldn't this be?
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someonefat
03-15-2009, 11:54 PM
Thanks for the critique, I like this bar position and I'm definitely not going to change it. (although I will try putting it an inch higher).
If I can go to the proper depth with the bar positioned like that, then why would it be dis-allowed? Anthony Clark benched with a reverse grip and that was allowed, so why wouldn't this be?
guceYdo6pF8
With a higher bar position you hit an easy 425 which looked like you could have repped it, you went lower, and it was a YEAR ago. So how is this better position for you when its doing nothing but giving you lots of form issues, making you squat high ext?
isaku900
03-16-2009, 12:01 AM
Thanks for the critique, I like this bar position and I'm definitely not going to change it. (although I will try putting it an inch higher).
If I can go to the proper depth with the bar positioned like that, then why would it be dis-allowed?
well...for all the things soaringswine, myself and lifeman said...
if u leave the bar in the same spot you'll get red lighted in almost any fed. but u won't be able to get depth with a maximal weight and that form, not consistently.
so yeah, stay low bar...but move it up to a legal position.
Juic3
03-16-2009, 12:19 AM
well...for all the things soaringswine, myself and lifeman said...
if u leave the bar in the same spot you'll get red lighted in almost any fed. but u won't be able to get depth with a maximal weight and that form, not consistently.
so yeah, stay low bar...but move it up to a legal position.
Whats the lowest legal bar position? :S
Juic3
03-16-2009, 12:21 AM
With a higher bar position you hit an easy 425 which looked like you could have repped it, you went lower, and it was a YEAR ago. So how is this better position for you when its doing nothing but giving you lots of form issues, making you squat high ext?
I tried the higher bar position. I did 405 easy but when I went for 455 I failed...
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^^Is that the form you guys are talking about?
Juic3
03-16-2009, 12:23 AM
to me, it seems your core strength and lower back is solid. If it was weak, you would not be able to maintain that posture through your entire lift. The real problem you are facing is your upper back strength. Either a) you need to find a higher bar position, or b) you need to get your shoulders, traps, lats and middle back MUCH stronger so you can actually maintain that bar position while standing upright. You are only hunched over because the bar would slide right off your back when you stand up straight. This is a common occurrence when people lower their bar positions. You just happen to have a VERY low bar position.
To think your lower back and core is weak is preposterous. You manage to keep a constant posture with 500 lbs and a velco belt.
What belt do you suggest?
isaku900
03-16-2009, 12:26 AM
umm...still bad.
knee break first...gah.
cjdelaney
03-16-2009, 06:19 AM
Thanks for the critique, I like this bar position and I'm definitely not going to change it. (although I will try putting it an inch higher).
If I can go to the proper depth with the bar positioned like that, then why would it be dis-allowed? Anthony Clark benched with a reverse grip and that was allowed, so why wouldn't this be?
guceYdo6pF8
a reverse grip bench and a mid-back bar position have nothing to do with each other.
There is a unanimous consensus here that your bar position sucks and would not be legal in competition. You are not doing "squats" by anybody's definition. I cant see why you insist on continuing to do them that way.
You obviously have a solid level of strength established, if you took some time to actually learn the lift it would be 10x better for you in the long term.
and you aren't hitting proper depth.
Lifeman89
03-16-2009, 10:43 AM
hey kid you're the one that can't squat
i agree... your form is terrible.. break at the hips first... sit back.. ur knees travel more then a wealthy retired jewish couple.... u lack core strength... your form shows you actually have none... try training ur core... get used to the bar up there there is no reason to have it much lower unless ur multi out of a mono... u also are way to bent over... and stay on ur heels....
i still give the new vid 3 reds... actually i would have never given the squat command...
hercules71185
03-16-2009, 10:59 AM
Just because you can why do it the hard way? Look at power lifters. You CAN snatch clean, or you can clean and jerk, just because you can use sh*tty form doesn't mean you should. Is there a reason you don't want to change your form and not only save your back and get stronger faster. But lift more.
hercules71185
03-16-2009, 11:05 AM
To is that the form we are looking for. Try to puff your chest out when you are standing up instead of arching forward. The bar slid down your back like 4 inches on the way down, that's why you can't get too heavy. Do a vid @315 (light weight) and put it across your shoulders like the last vid, and puff your chest out. Act like you are trying to hold a bucket of water on your lower back. I'd love to post a vid, but my gym only has smith machines instead of racks. So, showing someone on that is retarded. (notice how my squat number hasn't changed in 2 years since I can't really predict a max on the smith machine. 650lbs on that thing isn't 650 and the form doesn't matter with it.)
Newbtime
03-16-2009, 11:33 AM
Thanks for the critique, I like this bar position and I'm definitely not going to change it. [/youtube]
.......wow...
you have two videos of you on youtube dumping the bar off your back after squatting the weight and going to rack it. its probably happened many times before aswell.
its clear as day this isn't working for you. you have a extreme muscle weakness that needs to be corrected. keep with the high bar position, pinch your shoulder blades together and put the bar ontop of your rear delts just under your traps. flex your glutes at lockout after walking the weight out and after locking it out. break with your hips instead of your knees.
youre staying too loose when you walk the bar out, keep your abs tight and your hips under the bar before starting the rep. you are already leaned over walking the bar out with just 405.
cjdelaney
03-16-2009, 01:57 PM
J Look at power lifters. You CAN snatch clean, or you can clean and jerk,
???
you should probably disregard anything this guy says.
cjdelaney
03-16-2009, 02:45 PM
Why? Because in lifting meets you are ALLOWED to snatch clean if you want. Or is that just too complicated for you to understand? It's obviously not worth doing. Same as ridiculous bar placement. You CAN do it but why would you?
do you know the difference between powerlifting and weightlifting?
do you know the difference between a snatch and a clean?
hercules71185
03-16-2009, 02:58 PM
do you know the difference between powerlifting and weightlifting?
do you know the difference between a snatch and a clean?
Yes I was a powerlifter up until I stopped lifting in 07. I just started bodybuilding and cutting for the first time.
And I never disrespected anyone on this forum, never have never will. Now why can't I question someone. Obviously he can speak for himself if he thinks I disrespected him. Take a look at every post I've ever made and tell me I directly disrespected anyone who wasn't a troll. I didn't.
My lifts suck now since I've only been back in the gym for a month since I was out for 2 solid years.
hercules71185
03-16-2009, 02:59 PM
do you know the difference between powerlifting and weightlifting?
do you know the difference between a snatch and a clean?
And again, I know the difference and when I was lifting we had a guy who used the snatch over the clean and jerk. He was 155 and his shoulders were weak as hell, he liked to pop it from the ground to his hands. I'm just saying why do it just because it's allowed.
isaku900
03-16-2009, 02:59 PM
Yes I was a powerlifter up until I stopped lifting in 07. I just started bodybuilding and cutting for the first time.
And I never disrespected anyone on this forum, never have never will. Now why can't I question someone. Obviously he can speak for himself if he thinks I disrespected him. Take a look at every post I've ever made and tell me I directly disrespected anyone who wasn't a troll. I didn't.
the snatch and the clean and jerk are WEIGHTLIFTING MOVMENTS.
powerlifting is the SQUAT, BENCH, and DEADLIFT.
you don't know the basic difference between the two.
I'm starting to see why you were in the red until recently.
And again, I know the difference and when I was lifting we had a guy who used the snatch over the clean and jerk. He was 155 and his shoulders were weak as hell, he liked to pop it from the ground to his hands. I'm just saying why do it just because it's allowed.
no...you don't have a choice between the two.
in a weightlifting competition you have three attempts at the snatch and three attempts at the clean and jerk. the best attempt from each lift is combined to make your total.
in powerlifting you have three attempts each at the squat, bench and deadlift, the best attempt from each lift is combined to make your total.
in neither sport are you allowed to pick and choose which lift to perform...you have to do both in weightlifting or all three in a powerlifting meet.
hercules71185
03-16-2009, 03:04 PM
weird maybe I'm in a f*cked up area? EVERY event I've EVER competed in was Pause press (bench), cleans, and d-lift. They all labeled themselves as powerlifting. I now see how so many people had such big totals.
isaku900
03-16-2009, 03:07 PM
weird maybe I'm in a f*cked up area? EVERY event I've EVER competed in was Pause press (bench), cleans, and d-lift. They all labeled themselves as powerlifting. I now see how so many people had such big totals.
florida high school competitions are not powerlifting.
they are bench, clean and deadlift competitions.
unfortunately this makes you incorrect in your assertions throughout this thread and have caused you to be labeled forever in my mind as ignorant.
Lifeman89
03-16-2009, 03:07 PM
weird maybe I'm in a f*cked up area? EVERY event I've EVER competed in was Pause press (bench), cleans, and d-lift. They all labeled themselves as powerlifting. I now see how so many people had such big totals.
nice try but robert keller puts on about 10 meets a year in florida and that's just one federation...
hercules71185
03-16-2009, 03:12 PM
nice try but robert keller puts on about 10 meets a year in florida and that's just one federation...
As I said I have no idea what it was supposed to be then. It was about 10 of us on a team, about 10 teams and all ran local. I never made it big or anything. But, I just find it weird and yes I was ignorant to what it was. Either way I know how to squat(no homo) I know how to deadlift, and I know how to bench. I'll get my numbers back and post vids when I get back in shape.
cjdelaney
03-16-2009, 03:35 PM
There is really no need to get all butt hurt. I said he should disregard your advice. You aren't in a position to give advice regarding powerlifting since you don't even know what powerlifting is. That is a statement of fact and not an insult.
why do you keep saying you will post vids of your lifts when you get back in shape? Did anyone say anything about giving a **** what you lift?
Why? Because in lifting meets you are ALLOWED to snatch clean if you want. Or is that just too complicated for you to understand? It's obviously not worth doing. Same as ridiculous bar placement. You CAN do it but why would you?
That part was hard for me to understand, given that "snatch clean" is not even an actual lift.
iLiRaM
03-16-2009, 04:34 PM
puase at 11 seconds. why is the bar so low on the back? put it up higher, stand straighter
hercules71185
03-16-2009, 04:53 PM
dude ur sig says u squat on a smith machine
/thread
I would like to use a regular squat rack, but we don't have one. Being I'm not claiming I can tell you my current progress I won't. I'd rather keep updated with legit numbers for my benefit. My actual squat number was at a gym during a free day trail thing just to get my maxes. 1st day in the gym after 2 years.
Juic3
03-16-2009, 05:00 PM
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hercules71185
03-16-2009, 05:13 PM
Can't we all just get along? lol. I don't powerlift. I'm a Newbie. I suck, I am weaker than all of you, and hide my ugly face behind a more attractive chucky mask. Don't hate me because I'm a tard :-(. And OP didn't mean to thread jack, obviously.
I can see why you don't put the bar on your traps damn things must get in the way. Can you scratch your ears without your hands?
Arlecchino
03-17-2009, 02:55 PM
WTF?
When did this turn into the misc?
Some people will be receiving a visit in their CP in one form or another.
Stand by.
Arlecchino
03-17-2009, 03:03 PM
Deleted a bunch of crap that was embarassing to the forum even after I locked the thread.