Has anyone here tried rubber guard?

[Bollock-chops]

And are you good at it?

[Cena4Life]

is rubber guard just normal gaurd, but around the neck?

[kcomico]

if you are flexible I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to learn a few things form it.

[GTfreak]

i devoted my whole practice yesterday to trying it out. it works great on people that dont use it or dont know how to defend it. it takes more work on people who know how to defend against it

[eatsleephate]

is rubber guard just normal gaurd, but around the neck?

It's just normal guard, but gay.

[CaliiforniaLove]

Works well for me but ****s up my knee.

[HardGainer82]

Rubber guard is for pot smoking hippies and dirty republicans. (No, I'm not sure how they get along)

[Bollock-chops]

Works well for me but ****s up my knee.

How flexible are you lol?


Rubber guard is for pot smoking hippies and dirty republicans.

lulz
i devoted my whole practice yesterday to trying it out. it works great on people that dont use it or dont know how to defend it. it takes more work on people who know how to defend against it

Agreed. Belcher had a hard time defending it against Day

[YesThatGuy]

I've been using it a lot in training lately but I really feel that my knees are not flexible enough to fully utilize the rubber guard. I am still working hard to get into a deep lotus position. I am almost there, though.

[PrettyPinkDonut]

my buddy utilized it effectively this saturday during his fight, and got a triangle from it......too bad with only like 8 seconds left

[HardGainer82]

Agreed. Belcher had a hard time defending it against Day

Well, it's also more effective when you can elbow the dude in the face...

[bluemarlinO4]

from what ive seen. most people that try to run it barely know how to correctly do it and end up fuked.

people need to realize eddie bravo is on a different level and unless your learning it from him or his students its not worth trying to teach yourself.

[BFusion]

Do me a favour and pull the rubber guard off in Brazil.

Post results if you hadnt been whipped to death by black belts whipping you with their belts.

[PrettyPinkDonut]

Do me a favour and pull the rubber guard off in Brazil.

Post results if you hadnt been whipped to death by black belts whipping you with their belts.
wut?

[BPP]

I've been using it a lot in training lately but I really feel that my knees are not flexible enough to fully utilize the rubber guard. I am still working hard to get into a deep lotus position. I am almost there, though.

same here

[S0LID]

the trick to learning rubber guard is, destroy people who have been training a few months using it, then move onto tougher guys.

i was using it mainly for triangles and omoplatas.

[BPP]

Do me a favour and pull the rubber guard off in Brazil.

Post results if you hadnt been whipped to death by black belts whipping you with their belts.

might want to watch gracie v. bravo in adcc 2003

just sayin

[brazilian1337]

I dont like rubberguard unless u r those skinny japanese doing a 140 weight class...im sure the r other better things to learn.. well thats me because i got short leg i prefer doing butterfly guard

[MissionControl]

Rubber Guard is a very effective guard when used properly, just like any other style of guard.

For all of those going so far as to say its a complete failure and wont work against any real qualified opponents, you are only limiting yourself by being ignorant and closed minded and with those two characteristics, you will not go very far in jiu jitsu or mma for that matter.

People need to accept the RG because it is here to stay and only getting more popular and more complex. For all the haters, if you actually compete and are not just a keyboard warrior, when you get tapped with a special K armbar by a skinny kid with a pot leaf shirt on, dont come crying back to here for advice on RG deense and counters.

:)

[BPP]

Rubber Guard is a very effective guard when used properly, just like any other style of guard.

For all of those going so far as to say its a complete failure and wont work against any real qualified opponents, you are only limiting yourself by being ignorant and closed minded and with those two characteristics, you will not go very far in jiu jitsu or mma for that matter.

People need to accept the RG because it is here to stay and only getting more popular and more complex. For all the haters, if you actually compete and are not just a keyboard warrior, when you get tapped with a special K armbar by a skinny kid with a pot leaf shirt on, dont come crying back to here for advice on RG deense and counters.

:)


this

[BFusion]

might want to watch gracie v. bravo in adcc 2003

just sayin

I think youre the one who might want to watch that match again

Then youd see Royler DOMINATING Eddie and Eddie catching him at the end, happens to the best of them.

So fanboys? Whts your excuse for the rape Eddie got after off of Leo Vierra? A traditionalist

Didnt that end 15-2 to Leo? Exactly ;)

And my point was that in Brazil alot of guys (not just the gracies) dont like 10th planet stuff at all.

[BPP]

I think youre the one who might want to watch that match again

Then youd see Royler DOMINATING Eddie and Eddie catching him at the end, happens to the best of them.

So fanboys? Whts your excuse for the rape Eddie got after off of Leo Vierra? A traditionalist

Didnt that end 15-2 to Leo? Exactly ;)

And my point was that in Brazil alot of guys (not just the gracies) dont like 10th planet stuff at all.

what matters....the win or how you get there? kthx
besides i didnt see him get whipped to death...I saw him beat the brazilian "king" of no-gi from the gracie family

of course...bc the brazilians are pissed the americans are evolving jj...not hard to see

[BPP]

So fanboys? Whts your excuse for the rape Eddie got after off of Leo Vierra? A traditionalist

Didnt that end 15-2 to Leo? Exactly ;)
.

that noones perfect? show me a link where bravo claimed to be unbeatable, or that 10planet is unbeatable

[BFusion]

what matters....the win or how you get there? kthx
besides i didnt see him get whipped to death...I saw him beat the brazilian "king" of no-gi from the gracie family

of course...bc the brazilians are pissed the americans are evolving jj...not hard to see

Youre a mod, you should know how to youtube Eddie Bravo Leo Vierra.

Rubber Guard didnt come in much use there did it???

[BFusion]

that noones perfect? show me a link where bravo claimed to be unbeatable, or that 10planet is unbeatable

What the hell are you even talking about???

I didnt imply that Eddie said 10th planet was unbeatable, my statement was a stab at FANBOYS who think it does.

So unless you're a FANBOY who got upset about that because you thought i was having a dig at Eddie, well thats your problem.

[BPP]

Youre a mod, you should know how to youtube Eddie Bravo Leo Vierra.

Rubber Guard didnt come in much use there did it???

already have, but way to work on your condescending attitude :)


What the hell are you even talking about???

I didnt imply that Eddie said 10th planet was unbeatable, my statement was a stab at FANBOYS who think it does.

So unless you're a FANBOY who got upset about that because you thought i was having a dig at Eddie, well thats your problem.

uh, you made a huge deal that he lost 1 match to a traditional....if anything you sound like one of the closeminded ones who go out of their way to play fanboy to traditional BJJ

[BFusion]

already have, but way to work on your condescending attitude :)



uh, you made a huge deal that he lost 1 match to a traditional....if anything you sound like one of the closeminded ones who go out of their way to play fanboy to traditional BJJ

Wrong, im acctually a pretty big Eddie fan, my last two tournaments his half guard game helped me tremendously. I just think the rubber guard is highly over rated and dislike the out and out Eddie fanboys.

And condescending attitude??? Pot Kettle Black!

[BPP]

And condescending attitude??? Pot Kettle Black!

lets see:
you: zomg brazil would destroy rg
me: posterboy for rg beat poster boy for gracie no-gi
you: defensive attacks

[BFusion]

lets see:
you: zomg brazil would destroy rg
me: posterboy for rg beat poster boy for gracie no-gi
you: defensive attacks

Are you and Dis related???

Defensive attacks? You were the first to launch a personal stab at me saying i was somekind of trad nazi, which is wrong.

Get a grip.

[BPP]

Are you and Dis related???

Defensive attacks? You were the first to launch a personal stab at me saying i was somekind of trad nazi, which is wrong.

Get a grip.



might want to reread your posts

really? please quote me where I said anything about being a nazi>

[BFusion]

might want to reread your posts

really? please quote me where I said anything about being a nazi>

The use of nazi was not to be taken in literal terms, just like you wrote that i said zomg, i didnt.

[MissionControl]

I think youre the one who might want to watch that match again

Then youd see Royler DOMINATING Eddie and Eddie catching him at the end


Listen here player

I think YOU need go to watch their match again.

Here is a play-by-play of the match:

-Eddie pulls half guard
-Royler passes
-Eddie gets half guard back
-Eddie sweeps Royler
-Royler attempts a triangle, Bravo successfully defends it
-Eddie pulls half guard again
-Royler passes again
-Eddie uses the jailbreak technique to get to butterfly guard and goes to full guard
-Eddie establishes mission control, zombies the arm to the mat, goes to crack head control, clears the neck
-Eddie is back to mission control, clears the neck again
-back to open guard, Royler passes, Eddie uses jailbreak to butterfly guard
-Eddie has an over hook on the left and wrist control on the right, he extends royler's wrist and shoots his leg through with a triangle

/match

Royler passed three times and had a triangle that wasnt even close, you consider that dominating?
Every time he passed, Eddie got his guard back within seconds, swept him once, went through half of the basic steps in RG more then one time, AND tapped him.

That sounds a little close to dominating. IMO of course :)

[brazilian1337]

Listen here player

I think YOU need go to watch their match again.

Here is a play-by-play of the match:

-Eddie pulls half guard
-Royler passes
-Eddie gets half guard back
-Eddie sweeps Royler
-Royler attempts a triangle, Bravo successfully defends it
-Eddie pulls half guard again
-Royler passes again
-Eddie uses the jailbreak technique to get to butterfly guard and goes to full guard
-Eddie establishes mission control, zombies the arm to the mat, goes to crack head control, clears the neck
-Eddie is back to mission control, clears the neck again
-back to open guard, Royler passes, Eddie uses jailbreak to butterfly guard
-Eddie has an over hook on the left and wrist control on the right, he extends royler's wrist and shoots his leg through with a triangle

/match

Royler passed three times and had a triangle that wasnt even close, you consider that dominating?
Every time he passed, Eddie got his guard back within seconds, swept him once, went through half of the basic steps in RG more then one time, AND tapped him.

That sounds a little close to dominating. IMO of course :)

ok thats good son but u dont need to USE it to be sucessful yes u dont.. im not saying u dont need to know how to defend from it... some ppl r just not made for it.. look at marcelo garcia, hes short how the hell would he pull one of those on big tall guys ? eh there r MANY other options in bjj better than rubber guard imo.. all comes to ur playstyle

[MissionControl]

ok thats good son but u dont need to USE it to be sucessful yes u dont.. im not saying u dont need to know how to defend from it... some ppl r just not made for it.. look at marcelo garcia, hes short how the hell would he pull one of those on big tall guys ? eh there r MANY other options in bjj better than rubber guard imo.. all comes to ur playstyle

OK Eddie tapped Royler with Royler's style, even better. Can you imagine if Royler gogo'd Bravo?

And who said RG is for everyone?
you seem to disagree with yourself with the marcelo garcia example saying how his body type isnt good for RG, but dont sweat! he has the X- guard that does work for him.

saying there are better styles out there is completely based on the person choosing to practice said style, some some styles work better for certain people and discrediting the RG for everyone is a very retarded statement.

[bignac1]

And are you good at it?

I'm not bad at it. I'm flexible enough to do it but I need more practice.

[eatsleephate]

I can't believe there's people arguing, giving play-by-plays of matches and all sorts of other unwarranted ***gotry going on in here.

You can say all you'd like, referencing what Bravo did, who he did it to, **** it- even use the stupid ****ing stoner names he gives all of his moves: the fact of the matter is, he DID beat Royler but he DIDN'T beat him with the rubber guard.

[juniorftw]

might want to watch gracie v. bravo in adcc 2003

just sayin

Might want to watch bravo vs veira in adcc 2003

just sayin


of course...bc the brazilians are pissed the americans are evolving jj...not hard to see

Uhm, America is still so far behind Brazil when it comes to Jiu Jitsu its not even funny. Brazillians DOMINATE the Mundials EVERY SINGLE YEAR. How many americans have won gold at blackbelt in the Mundials? Like 3?

[BPP]

Uhm, America is still so far behind Brazil when it comes to Jiu Jitsu its not even funny. Brazillians DOMINATE the Mundials EVERY SINGLE YEAR. How many americans have won gold at blackbelt in the Mundials? Like 3?

ok...doesnt mean they havent evolved a new style that can be useful in some situations

[YesThatGuy]

Uhm, America is still so far behind Brazil when it comes to Jiu Jitsu its not even funny. Brazillians DOMINATE the Mundials EVERY SINGLE YEAR. How many americans have won gold at blackbelt in the Mundials? Like 3?

America does not care about the Mundials.....just like we don't care about soccer. We still know we bad, okay chief?








(not serious)

[Kane Fan]

anyone who has been in BJJ for any real length of time I am sure has tried it
as to if they are good at it, hard to say
I mean I have tried it, sometimes the stuf works for me sometimes not
so I gues the answers would be yes and somewhat

[parkerbro1]

i devoted my whole practice yesterday to trying it out. it works great on people that dont use it or dont know how to defend it. it takes more work on people who know how to defend against it

This. I've used it (mission control) to hold a wrestler while he tried to thrash about, then tricked him into a triangle. I think it helps with your flexability and for strikers it helps free up a hand while still controlling your opponent.

[YesThatGuy]

This. I've used it (mission control) to hold a wrestler while he tried to thrash about, then tricked him into a triangle. I think it helps with your flexability and for strikers it helps free up a hand while still controlling your opponent.



I want to ask one of my training partners to hold on in mission control to see if I can pick them up Rampage/Arona style.

[brazilian1337]

OK Eddie tapped Royler with Royler's style, even better. Can you imagine if Royler gogo'd Bravo?

And who said RG is for everyone?
you seem to disagree with yourself with the marcelo garcia example saying how his body type isnt good for RG, but dont sweat! he has the X- guard that does work for him.

saying there are better styles out there is completely based on the person choosing to practice said style, some some styles work better for certain people and discrediting the RG for everyone is a very retarded statement.

how did i disagree with myself ? im just giving a short response that u called closed minded those who do not use it " you are only limiting yourself by being ignorant and closed minded and with those two characteristics, you will not go very far in jiu jitsu or mma for that matter."... just because u dont use rg dont mean u cant do well in bjj if u at least know how to defend from it

[MUFC]

Drysdale's RG>>Eddie's RG

[brazilian1337]

i like aokis RG

[MUFC]

Didn't Aoki learn RG from EB?

[MissionControl]

Didn't Aoki learn RG from EB?

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[MissionControl]

You can say all you'd like, referencing what Bravo did, who he did it to, **** it- even use the stupid ****ing stoner names he gives all of his moves: the fact of the matter is, he DID beat Royler but he DIDN'T beat him with the rubber guard.

Your right he didnt beat him with the RG, but he did use it effectively to improve his position more then once. He beat Royler Gracie with textbook Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

[CutLoss]

In my opinion, if you're semi-advanced and have all the basics down to instinct, why not learn it? Its simply another weapon in your arsenal. I'm still in the process of learning it. I read the entire book twice and I'm still referring back to it after rolling. Theres a lot to be learned from Bravo, just as there is a lot to learn from traditionalists. I like it a lot because I do all no-gi work, so it benefits me. To those who are saying it bothers your knees, it was doing the same to me for awhile and then I started extending my stretches to 1 minute holds and it helped.

[ajzoot]

I use it, with great success, as a component of my omoplata set up. When I do gi I like to keep the guard open and grab the sleeves to hunt the omoplata.... trying to play no-gi open guard double wrist control is just a **** idea.

[parkerbro1]

I want to ask one of my training partners to hold on in mission control to see if I can pick them up Rampage/Arona style.

Ya, you should be able to do it easy if you're that strong (or he's light enough). My buddy did it to me and slammed me down pretty good. But it didn't dislodge me, made him expend a bunch of energy, and help me secure the triangle when he got frustrated and tried to pass the "loose" leg.
It's def not the end all in a fight, but it's another weapon to add to my arsenal...why not try ans learn it to see if it will work for me. I try and never dissmiss anything out right (was taught to never do anything as flashy as a head kick, but we've seen where they can really work, so...).

[RubberGuard]

Rubber Guard is a very effective guard when used properly, just like any other style of guard.

For all of those going so far as to say its a complete failure and wont work against any real qualified opponents, you are only limiting yourself by being ignorant and closed minded and with those two characteristics, you will not go very far in jiu jitsu or mma for that matter.

People need to accept the RG because it is here to stay and only getting more popular and more complex. For all the haters, if you actually compete and are not just a keyboard warrior, when you get tapped with a special K armbar by a skinny kid with a pot leaf shirt on, dont come crying back to here for advice on RG deense and counters.

:)

Well said. :D

[IRONJAMES1985]

Dude WTF is a Rubber Guard?!? ..I ONLY use a UFC Guard!

[leftclaw]

I pulled it off but then my instructor told me I was doing it wrong. (Holding my FOOT, not my ankle) Got a triangle from it though, but thankfully I didn't break my foot. Was a bit more careful after that.