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Jason2459
01-08-2009, 02:02 PM
Wow, just wow. Good luck getting there yourself.
Riskity
01-08-2009, 02:55 PM
jesus christ.
Theeos
01-08-2009, 03:10 PM
Thats still an awesome effort but to be "official" doesnt the starting gap need to be as wide as a credit card?
sickonstorm
01-08-2009, 03:30 PM
that wasnt a close.
someonefat
01-08-2009, 03:52 PM
that wasnt a close.
omfg are you retarded gtfo. That was over 3 sec pause with a width wider then parallel with a ****ign #4. Magnus samulson can't even do that. He couldn't eve get the handles to touch with basically an assisted hold in his video. This is best #4 video close I've seen, it must be an easy #4 though.
Definitely impressive feat of hand strength, some people might not be that impressed and more impressed with conventional strength like squat or deadlift. But I have tried grippers and a #4 is no joke.
StJockIII
01-08-2009, 03:55 PM
Do they have a weight rating sort of thing or just a number?
j.benjamin
01-08-2009, 03:57 PM
Do they have a weight rating sort of thing or just a number?
A number 4 is supposed to be 365lbs.
someonefat
01-08-2009, 03:57 PM
Do they have a weight rating sort of thing or just a number?
Well ironmnid has it as 365lbs. Yet I think remember reading its inch per pounds, and actual pounds to close a #4 is 200-220lbs on average.
So basically the ammount of power in his one hand is greater then what sickenstorm can squat.
sickonstorm
01-08-2009, 04:04 PM
omfg are you retarded gtfo. That was over 3 sec pause with a width wider then parallel with a ****ign #4. Magnus samulson can't even do that. He couldn't eve get the handles to touch with basically an assisted hold in his video. This is best #4 video close I've seen, it must be an easy #4 though.
Definitely impressive feat of hand strength, some people might not be that impressed and more impressed with conventional strength like squat or deadlift. But I have tried grippers and a #4 is no joke.
i never said it wasnt impressive. quarter squatting 2000 pounds is impressive but in the end its still a quarter squat. it was impressive and i didnt say one bad thing about the video but the truth it wasnt a close and thats not certifiable.
sickonstorm
01-08-2009, 04:04 PM
Well ironmnid has it as 365lbs. Yet I think remember reading its inch per pounds, and actual pounds to close a #4 is 200-220lbs on average.
So basically the ammount of power in his one hand is greater then what sickenstorm can squat.
you mad i got 305 to parallel for 2 but wasnt quite sure if i hit parallel so i just counted it as 1?
someonefat
01-08-2009, 04:09 PM
i never said it wasnt impressive. quarter squatting 2000 pounds is impressive but in the end its still a quarter squat. it was impressive and i didnt say one bad thing about the video but the truth it wasnt a close and thats not certifiable.
You realize all the certified # 4 closes were done with a worse set then that right? And that the CCS is very new? If this was done few years ago he would have certified. So this is a close, its a parallel set close-even pretty close to ccs even-. A parallel squat is still counted in a lot of feds, you donj't have to go atg for it to count. See difference?
vikingsrule92
01-08-2009, 04:12 PM
A #4 is 190-220 on the scale that the 199 is measured. It is a semi-tough 4 but it's like comparing a 900lb DL to the WR, it's still absolutely absurd in the grand scheme of things. If you're saying "it's not certifiable" you're an idiot. Every person on the list so far is certified in this manner, a parallel set. Randy Strossen only increased the cert width because he's an idiot and he thought too many people were certing on the #3. Virtually no one in the grip world cares about Randy or his stupid certs, so don't say that wasn't a close.
sickonstorm
01-08-2009, 04:40 PM
op said it was a close he didnt say it was a set close. he way i c lose my grippers is no set full roms. and also the other numb 4 closes were credit card closes i remember magnuses was, and his was pretty easy as wells. and even if they werent. the rule now is, that it must be a cc.
randy is not an idiot.
The # that he shows on the green tab is what that gripper has been "calibrated" at. To calibrate a gripper you basically just hang weight from one end. As vikingsrule said, an average #4 is 209lbs, an average #3 is 150lbs, I'm not sure of sub #3 grippers.
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This #4 close happens to be the hardest calibrated gripper close ever.
Not everyone hates Randy, it's his list and he can do what he wants with it. Play or don't. There are many more certifications that don't require that ridiculously large starting distance.
Closing from a credit card distance is not required for a "certified" close unless you are going for Ironmind. That distance makes closing grippers damned near impossible for guys with smaller hands like myself and Strossen lost himself a good bit of business with those new rules.
vikingsrule92
01-08-2009, 09:08 PM
op said it was a close he didnt say it was a set close. he way i c lose my grippers is no set full roms. and also the other numb 4 closes were credit card closes i remember magnuses was, and his was pretty easy as wells. and even if they werent. the rule now is, that it must be a cc.
randy is not an idiot.
Ok well you'd be virtually alone in believing that that's the only thing that qualifies as a close. You probably have 1% of the grip world with you on that one, we call them purists, aka Jackasses usually banned or suspended from GB for being an ass.
HAHAHAHAHA wow you're ignorant, none of them were CCS, especially not Magnus's, his was MMS and it was definitely harder then this one if you ask me.
Yes he is, you're just bias towards him, read his moronic grip articles and you'll see what I mean.
Sorry to distract from the thread Zach, this guy's making me mad, reminds me of justiceislost1988 on GB, is this him? Anyway, congrats to Paul!!! Great close bro!!!
Shanecutler51
01-08-2009, 09:13 PM
i never said it wasnt impressive. quarter squatting 2000 pounds is impressive but in the end its still a quarter squat. it was impressive and i didnt say one bad thing about the video but the truth it wasnt a close and thats not certifiable.
WTF are you rambling about?
sickonstorm
01-08-2009, 09:18 PM
i like randys methods, and i agree with him. i never advocate partial rom for anything. and i agree magnus's close was harder obviously hes the worlds strongest man competitor.
someonefat
01-09-2009, 12:13 AM
i like randys methods, and i agree with him. i never advocate partial rom for anything. and i agree magnus's close was harder obviously hes the worlds strongest man competitor.
You misinterpreted him, magnuses attempt was weak and basically an assisted hold almost. There was no pause and it was a millimeter set. This is a much stronger close then his.
Also he does advocate partial rom since its a set, and not just grab it and close it. People with small hands would never close a big gripper if this was the case.
Also of course you never advocate for doing partial reps on anything, thats why your the weakest person on this board.
sickonstorm
01-09-2009, 12:47 AM
yes im the weakest person on this board..... anyway i dont advocate doing partials and counting them as real lifts. ive done quarter squats before but i dont count them as anything signifigant. i just loaded up 400 pounds over my max and squatted down two inches to shock my body and ****.
madaozeki
01-09-2009, 06:56 AM
... i just loaded up 400 pounds over my max and squatted down two inches to shock my body and ****.
If you needed to do that to **** you might want to see a doctor...
sickonstorm
01-09-2009, 03:05 PM
haha i **** too ****ing much lol
UHCougar05
01-09-2009, 03:28 PM
i like randys methods, and i agree with him. i never advocate partial rom for anything. and i agree magnus's close was harder obviously hes the worlds strongest man competitor.
Says the guy who does "deep partials" for squats... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Truth Speaker
01-10-2009, 08:11 AM
Says the guy who does "deep partials" for squats... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Cougars FTW beatches!
John Hicks
01-10-2009, 09:49 AM
The # that he shows on the green tab is what that gripper has been "calibrated" at. To calibrate a gripper you basically just hang weight from one end. As vikingsrule said, an average #4 is 209lbs, an average #3 is 150lbs, I'm not sure of sub #3 grippers.
I watched that video and the weight was never called out on that HG350, so what was it when it closed? I've closed Chad's HG350... IMO it went easy, maybe I was very strong that day. :)
tallthing
01-10-2009, 09:55 AM
thats crazy impressive.
im thinking about getting those exact same grippers from here on bb.com
but i was thinking either 100lb or 150lb.
but the problem is, i dont know exacctly how hard that's going to be for me.
im probably going to do them after my work out for 1 set on eat hand till failure.
any help?
John Hicks
01-10-2009, 10:02 AM
but the problem is, i dont know exacctly how hard that's going to be for me. im probably going to do them after my work out for 1 set on eat hand till failure. any help?
IMO, just go over to IM and order the 3 grippers I recommend: the Trainer, the #1 and the #2. That will give you an idea as to where you stand in terms of your own individual grip strength.
http://www.ironmind.com