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Baal
01-03-2009, 09:47 AM
I dont think these guys will ever get their full credit due.. especially Rockel. But who's your favorite under rated IFBB Pro and why?

I was gonna throw in Shawn and Padilla but I hope to keep this thread on current day pros.

The knock on most of these guys are their backs. Either size or seperation issues. However Melvin always seems to place well, and Henry is doing well.

If Henry could bring up his quads he would easily be one of my favorite pros ever.

http://www.teretana.ba/galerija/albumi/Lee_Priest_Jkano/02_01_2007_12_14_25.jpg

http://es.fitness.com/forum/attachments/fotos/3654d1169683674-que-clase-de-cuerpo-te-gustaria-tener-mark_dugdale_1.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s193/ajklpool/QW5Q2986_MGZLURYYTY.jpg

http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/~photos/744/Men/744kbo452.jpg

http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2007/news/melvinanthony.jpg

http://www.markus-ruehl.de/fileadmin/bilder/2007-StSusanna/stsusanna07rrmm.jpg

jaredmus
01-03-2009, 09:55 AM
I think the most underated is def silvio this guy is a freak with the conditioning and his serratus, i think david henry could do some damage if in his back double bicep his bis popped a little more. And idk what lees deal is maybe just conditioing. I wish lee the best year and i hope he is top 5 in mr o this year.

LUKEDEICHER
01-03-2009, 10:03 AM
If Rockel comes in at his best for the Ironman,

he will get some credit where its due.

RickRoss
01-03-2009, 10:05 AM
silvio's a beast. I believe he got a win under his belt too. Him and evan centopani are my faves currently.

keffmeister
01-03-2009, 10:09 AM
Lee my favourite simply because of his arms. Then Melvin, if the aesthetic guys going to win the O id much rather it be Melvin, just a shame about his conditioning sometimes

chuckgee
01-03-2009, 10:12 AM
I think the most underated is def silvio this guy is a freak with the conditioning and his serratus, i think david henry could do some damage if in his back double bicep his bis popped a little more. And idk what lees deal is maybe just conditioing. I wish lee the best year and i hope he is top 5 in mr o this year.


what are u talking about....henry has one of the best back double bi in the game right now.....if u said he needs to bring up his legs a little i would agree but the guy's back double bi is one of the best..

Chococat
01-03-2009, 10:14 AM
I really like David Henry. He reminds me a big of Shawn Ray in some of his poses.

douggiefresh21
01-03-2009, 10:20 AM
I really like David Henry. He reminds me a big of Shawn Ray in some of his poses.

x2. He's got a massive build and he looks like a natural up on stage like he fits in no matter what lineup. He just needs to fill out more, which I am sure he is working on.

bulkdawg562
01-03-2009, 10:22 AM
Preist would definitely have to be one of the most underated Pro, most probably because of his size. I think his comp weight is somewhere around 203-205.
http://musclewebsites.com/clients/driven/imggal/4b.jpg

'09 will be his second return to the IFBB even if he wins a show before the O I doubt he will make the top 10.

It would be cool to see Lee and Henry battle it out at the 202s at the O

http://www.builtreport.com/priest/033.jpg

bulkdawg562
01-03-2009, 10:29 AM
The Blond Myth...

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RickRoss
01-03-2009, 10:45 AM
The Blond Myth...

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Holy crap @ the forearm shot at the end. **** looks like his calf.

Lion_Heart03
01-03-2009, 11:27 AM
Personally i think Lee Priest is well under rated, he has no weakness and has a very pleasing physique

Mr O Material in MY eyes

liamcarter
01-03-2009, 11:31 AM
what are u talking about....henry has one of the best back double bi in the game right now.....if u said he needs to bring up his legs a little i would agree but the guy's back double bi is one of the best..

yep agreed x2....his back is detailed and thick as hell!

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7886/arnold2007menfinals154kv1.jpg

jjdrum06
01-03-2009, 11:33 AM
lee priest and melvin anthony are NOT underrated. melvin is always around 5th place at the O which is where he should be. we havent seen priest compete in the IFBB in a couple years, and he has won major shows. he'll never be mr. o because of his height, but that does not mean he is underrated. he deserves a top 10 placing, which he will possibly get if he competes at the O anytime soon.

bulkdawg562
01-03-2009, 11:42 AM
He's been on the pro circuit for about 6yrs. but IMO I think he has a more aesthetic physique than wolf. I really dont see anything he can improve on, he'd ruin his lines if he were to put on any more weight.

http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/9941-3/2007-mr-olympia-466-ronny-rockel.jpg?

http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/31996-2/2008-arnold-classic-193.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a2e97cd8cdb839e1107789a86e51 3183

http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/38877-4/2008-new-york-pro-179.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a2e97cd8cdb839e1107789a86e51 3183


definitely underrated IMO, the only area i can see that needs improving is his back, hams and glutes.
http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/39004-2/2008-new-york-pro-199.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a2e97cd8cdb839e1107789a86e51 3183

http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/39415-4/2008-new-york-pro-266.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=a2e97cd8cdb839e1107789a86e51 3183

MattyH7688
01-03-2009, 12:04 PM
everyone of these guys get placed exactly where they deserved

bulkdawg562
01-03-2009, 12:06 PM
Ronny "The Rock" Rockel

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Contract Killer
01-03-2009, 12:25 PM
Priest? Underrated? The guy's the most popular bodybuilder ever. I used to love Ronnie Rockel, then I met him and had to pull out a microscope, he's about knee level. Melvin just never brings it together like he needs to. He's placed next to guys like Dexter Jackson, obviously he's not gonna edge out the Blade. He'll remain an underdog until he learns how to show up the hardest and sharpest he can humanly/inhumanly be.

realistromeo
01-03-2009, 12:47 PM
everyone of these guys get placed exactly where they deserved

I couldn't agree more, most of these competitors for lack of a better word are DEFICIENT in some area.

Rockell-back (damn he looked awesome in that video!)
Henry-biceps
Lee- (although he brought it up ) back
Dugdale-width, size
Melvin- smallish quads.

jaredmus
01-03-2009, 01:06 PM
yep agreed x2....his back is detailed and thick as hell!

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7886/arnold2007menfinals154kv1.jpg

but where are the biceps?

JOHN GARGANI
01-03-2009, 01:15 PM
I can't wait for some scrawny guy to come on this thread and criticize Priest for his exercise technique in that video! HAHAHAHA.......

Lee is DEFINITELY not underrated....at one point, he was in the top 5 in the world, but had that falling out with the IFBB echelon......

Bigron891
01-03-2009, 03:06 PM
Rockel is the man.

stealth_swimmer
01-03-2009, 03:20 PM
I think the most underated is def silvio this guy is a freak with the conditioning and his serratus, i think david henry could do some damage if in his back double bicep his bis popped a little more. And idk what lees deal is maybe just conditioing. I wish lee the best year and i hope he is top 5 in mr o this year.

How is Silvio underrated if he's been winning shows?

dLewis187
01-03-2009, 03:21 PM
everyone of these guys get placed exactly where they deserved

agreed....

stealth_swimmer
01-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Priest? Underrated? The guy's the most popular bodybuilder ever. I used to love Ronnie Rockel, then I met him and had to pull out a microscope, he's about knee level. Melvin just never brings it together like he needs to. He's placed next to guys like Dexter Jackson, obviously he's not gonna edge out the Blade. He'll remain an underdog until he learns how to show up the hardest and sharpest he can humanly/inhumanly be.

Exactly, i don't think some folks on here know what the word "underrated" means.

Coal Man
01-03-2009, 03:36 PM
My fav is David Henry because of his sick back but I'll admit he's lacking in the quads department

bulkdawg562
01-03-2009, 03:54 PM
My fav is David Henry because of his sick back but I'll admit he's lacking in the quads department

Very true backs are what wins titles

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I1200.jpg

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I1205.jpg

jjdrum06
01-03-2009, 04:05 PM
I can't wait for some scrawny guy to come on this thread and criticize Priest for his exercise technique in that video! HAHAHAHA.......

Lee is DEFINITELY not underrated....at one point, he was in the top 5 in the world, but had that falling out with the IFBB echelon......
why would anyone criticize priest's technique? the guy uses super strict form, with really heavy weight. very few pros (from what ive seen), use better form.

P4D2A0
01-03-2009, 04:27 PM
rockel and silvo look amazing

the-craig
01-03-2009, 05:28 PM
I don't really think any of them are under rated. Like someone said earlier they all have a weakness which is stopping them from placing higher. I think with them all apart from Melvin and Rockel, their height holds them back. I think pictures of them stood next to others would highlight that more. If I had to say any of them was under rated though, I would certainly go with Ronny.

streetlethaleg6
01-03-2009, 05:38 PM
I would say Mark Dugdale but i also like Silvo

Pushing_Kilos
01-03-2009, 05:49 PM
I like Rockell, great lines and symetry but his back needed some extra attention. Once he gets that on par he will get the credit he is entitled to.

I really don't think Silvio is underrated, take a look at his contest history
http://contest.bodybuilding.com/bio/194

Henry is tearing it up in the 202 class, but still needs some size in the legs.

Melvin needs to be "dialed in" more consistently.

genfreak
01-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Lee Priest is a true freak and isnt afraid to be himself.

siersy
01-03-2009, 06:32 PM
I like Rockell, great lines and symetry but his back needed some extra attention. Once he gets that on par he will get the credit he is entitled to.

I really don't think Silvio is underrated, take a look at his contest history
http://contest.bodybuilding.com/bio/194

Henry is tearing it up in the 202 class, but still needs some size in the legs.

Melvin needs to be "dialed in" more consistently.

LOL @ silvio claimed to be 5'7

we have all seen the pics of him in the lineup next to QT and he looks to be around 5'3 there

siersy
01-03-2009, 06:34 PM
if i had to rank them it would go:
dex, lee, melvin, silvio, henry, dugdale.

(threw dex in cause he is similar in height to these guys)

jaredmus
01-03-2009, 07:23 PM
Very true backs are what wins titles

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I1200.jpg

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_47I1205.jpg

in that second pic it looks like his biceps deflated. Im not tearing him apart hes the pest 202 in the world. Even though i think Flex lewis will totally blow past him this year in every aspect now that rich is his mentor. But Henry is great except those biceps just dont pop even though they are super thick.

stealth_swimmer
01-03-2009, 09:21 PM
LOL @ silvio claimed to be 5'7

we have all seen the pics of him in the lineup next to QT and he looks to be around 5'3 there

Ain't QT like 6'4''?

addiction543
01-03-2009, 09:35 PM
can we also add troy alves to this list?
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5953/troy6xv.jpg
http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/results/ironman_troyalves.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1882/10/d/777rb0333.jpg
(sorry don't know how to embed)

Captain Sagara
01-03-2009, 10:37 PM
can we also add troy alves to this list?
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5953/troy6xv.jpg
http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/2008/results/ironman_troyalves.jpg
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/1882/10/d/777rb0333.jpg
(sorry don't know how to embed)

Troy is screwed over and over again...Judges say he always shows up soft from the back,guess what?? So does Jay,Ruhl,etc,etc...

really_nice_guy
01-03-2009, 10:47 PM
Dugdale doesn't belong on the list, Silvio Samuels so overrated it's not even funny, melvin and priest have both placed fine. Rockel is definitely underrated

liamcarter
01-04-2009, 05:59 AM
in that second pic it looks like his biceps deflated. .

no..its just the camera angle, the shot was taken from the bottom looking up

Captain Sagara
01-04-2009, 06:09 AM
Henry's bis actually do not pop at all at Back Double Biceps & neither in the Front double biceps,one of them actually seems to be torned...

http://i42.tinypic.com/r9oi1h.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ebr22u.jpg

His tris are much more developed then his biceps,look how sick his tris are...

http://i39.tinypic.com/34oq610.jpg

BOUNTYHUNTERMK2
01-04-2009, 06:16 AM
Ronny deserves to get his due at some point, like folk have said if he can work on his back then maybe that day will come.

liamcarter
01-04-2009, 06:41 AM
sickboy cage - ahh..yea i see wat u mean now

siersy
01-04-2009, 08:07 AM
Ain't QT like 6'4''?

6'5 ! rediculious!

siersy
01-04-2009, 08:09 AM
henry is awesome but he is just a nugget of muscle. he cannot deal with the seperation and conditioning of guys like dex preist and silvio.

liamcarter
01-04-2009, 08:25 AM
henry is awesome but he is just a nugget of muscle. he cannot deal with the seperation and conditioning of guys like dex preist and silvio.

so your tying to say that lee priest and silvio have got more seperation then david henry!!!???

the-craig
01-04-2009, 08:41 AM
so your tying to say that lee priest and silvio have got more seperation then david henry!!!???

I think that is the general idea.

liamcarter
01-04-2009, 08:48 AM
I think that is the general idea.

thanks for ur input!

anyway..no they havent got more seperation than dave..thats ridiculous to say that they have

featureless
01-04-2009, 09:28 AM
my fave is melvin. i think he is one the most complete bodybuilders in the world today. just gets beaten on conditioning, imo, so his placings are probably fair

the-craig
01-04-2009, 11:14 AM
thanks for ur input!

anyway..no they havent got more seperation than dave..thats ridiculous to say that they have

I was saying it because I agree with it. I'm not too sure on Priest, I honestly haven't seen all too much of him on stage, but for Dexter and Silvio it is certainly true.

FaceThePain
01-04-2009, 11:32 AM
Priest? Underrated? The guy's the most popular bodybuilder ever.

Arnold is undoubtedly the most popular, followed by Big Nasty aka Coleman.

MattyH7688
01-04-2009, 12:35 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/34oq610.jpg

photoshop.. muscletech.com lol

stealth_swimmer
01-04-2009, 02:21 PM
Henry's bis actually do not pop at all at Back Double Biceps & neither in the Front double biceps,one of them actually seems to be torned...

http://i42.tinypic.com/r9oi1h.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ebr22u.jpg

His tris are much more developed then his biceps,look how sick his tris are...

http://i39.tinypic.com/34oq610.jpg

exactly. His biceps don't come out that much. His back itself is very good though.


6'5 ! rediculious!

well there ya go.


henry is awesome but he is just a nugget of muscle. he cannot deal with the seperation and conditioning of guys like dex preist and silvio.

Huh? Lee Priest? I personally think David Henry had better separation than Lee Priest did at that Ironman that Lee won and David came in second. Could've gone either way.

jaredmus
01-04-2009, 03:52 PM
Henry's bis actually do not pop at all at Back Double Biceps & neither in the Front double biceps,one of them actually seems to be torned...

http://i42.tinypic.com/r9oi1h.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ebr22u.jpg

His tris are much more developed then his biceps,look how sick his tris are...

http://i39.tinypic.com/34oq610.jpg
they look good in this pic

siersy
01-04-2009, 05:10 PM
Troy is screwed over and over again...Judges say he always shows up soft from the back,guess what?? So does Jay,Ruhl,etc,etc...

troy is screwed over alot but he isnt a manlet ( by bodybuilding standards he is semi tall)

stealth_swimmer
01-04-2009, 05:22 PM
troy is screwed over alot but he isnt a manlet ( by bodybuilding standards he is semi tall)

yeah Troy would always get placed lower cus his glutes were soft. Not necessarily that his back was soft...just the glute/ham area. his back could be shredded and dry but he always missed the mark of winning a show cus of his glutes.

siersy
01-04-2009, 05:35 PM
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just personally they are hard enough for me...

not the hardest but they arnt exactly rockel glutes.

god troy is good its sad to see him wasted in placings especially at the MR O

Captain Sagara
01-04-2009, 05:35 PM
henry is awesome but he is just a nugget of muscle. he cannot deal with the seperation and conditioning of guys like dex preist and silvio.

Hummm,no...When he's on he is as conditioned as Dexter and Silvio and much better conditioned then Priest ever was...

Baal
01-04-2009, 05:40 PM
Priest? Underrated? The guy's the most popular bodybuilder ever

Lets not confuse rating with popularity.

siersy
01-04-2009, 06:31 PM
Hummm,no...When he's on he is as conditioned as Dexter and Silvio and much better conditioned then Priest ever was...

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hummm, no.

cant agree with that... neither can the placings
3 seperate 6 place finishings at the olympia for lee

oh and a 7th and an 8th and a few good top 5 arnold finishes too....

what about david henry oh um yea thats right he cracked the top ten ONCE.

Captain Sagara
01-04-2009, 06:34 PM
uYEyKDBHUNc

hummm, no.

cant agree with that... neither can the placings
3 seperate 6 place finishings at the olympia for lee

oh and a 7th and an 8th and a few good top 5 arnold finishes too....

what about david henry oh um yea thats right he cracked the top ten ONCE.

Those placings don't mean Lee comes in more diced then Henry,it just means he is a better bodybuilder...Lee never gets totally shredded from the back,Henry when is ON is diced from head to the finger-nail toe...