Warrior Diet Experiment

[BuffetKing]

Well, I have read that some people will have some veggies, then an hour later have a protien carb meal, then eat a high fat meal an hour after than.

I like to just take 3 cup of oats with 3 cups of yogurt and eat a ton of chicken on the side. Itis about 1300-1500 calories. I also am exp. with the 12 hours fast by having a 600 calorie whey,oil shake for breakfast. With 40 grams of fat, the shake does not raise my insulin levels.

[Clarko]

Hey I didn't read this whole thread so sorry if it's hidden in here, but how is this diet supposed to work? I have always tried to eat smaller meals at night when cutting at it was working pretty good. imo the only way to start a day is a big hearty healthy breakfast.

I would love it if anyone could post some wd science, or even bro theory.

[fatdaddy67]

Well, I have read that some people will have some veggies, then an hour later have a protien carb meal, then eat a high fat meal an hour after than.

I like to just take 3 cup of oats with 3 cups of yogurt and eat a ton of chicken on the side. Itis about 1300-1500 calories. I also am exp. with the 12 hours fast by having a 600 calorie whey,oil shake for breakfast. With 40 grams of fat, the shake does not raise my insulin levels.

Buffet...I don't know why anyone would eat like that. It must be a WD variation. Just eat everything together at night...salad, veggies then meal.

And Clarko, for theory, go to the Warrior Diet website. There are plenty of articles.

I'm really not much for theory. But I can tell you this. I performed the WD for months, using calipers to measure body composition. No diet I have ever tried has been better for FAST fat loss. There was some minor muscle loss as well.

I really suggest you read this thread. It has plenty of info on the diet.

[adrenergic]

Hey brah, you should post some side by side before and after comparison pics.

[BuffetKing]

I could care less about fat loss, I LOOOOVE the freedom of living my life all day without worrying about counting and packing meals. 7 years of that crap was enough for myself.

The gov't says 4-6 meals is ideal??? Yeh, I guess trillions in bailouts and debt for my children is also ideal!

[Clarko]

Buffet...I don't know why anyone would eat like that. It must be a WD variation. Just eat everything together at night...salad, veggies then meal.

And Clarko, for theory, go to the Warrior Diet website. There are plenty of articles.

I'm really not much for theory. But I can tell you this. I performed the WD for months, using calipers to measure body composition. No diet I have ever tried has been better for FAST fat loss. There was some minor muscle loss as well.

I really suggest you read this thread. It has plenty of info on the diet.

ohh ok, I didn't know it had a website. Today was the first I've heard of it. I'm not really ever in need of fast fat loss. I never have too much fat when I'm bulking I'm just not ripped and kind of soft in the abdominal region. The idea diet for me would be something you can plan out and actually gain muscle while losing that last bit of fat slowly.

[BuffetKing]

Clarko, I have the program for you, PM me

[bas781]

Anything other than small small small amounts of nuts/low glycemic fruit/greens during the day and then a massive meal at night has ceased to be the Warrior Diet. You could still be eating clean, but don't call it a Warrior Diet. That's like saying instead of running wind sprints you're just going to run the same distance, but slower, and still call it sprinting.

[fatdaddy67]

Anything other than small small small amounts of nuts/low glycemic fruit/greens during the day and then a massive meal at night has ceased to be the Warrior Diet. You could still be eating clean, but don't call it a Warrior Diet. That's like saying instead of running wind sprints you're just going to run the same distance, but slower, and still call it sprinting.

Thanks for the lecture, but that's exactly what myself and others on this log have been doing. I did the Warrior Diet for 2 months on this log. Please move along unless you plan on reading what is in this log. I don't usually neg rep, but I think you've earned it.

[bas781]

Thanks for the lecture, but that's exactly what myself and others on this log have been doing. I did the Warrior Diet for 2 months on this log. Please move along unless you plan on reading what is in this log. I don't usually neg rep, but I think you've earned it.


That post was directed to those in the thread asking if any warrior dieters eat 2-3 meals instead of the big one in the evening. I was actually backing you up, have followed your logs for quite a long time, and respect you as an early forerunner to documenting the process. Thanks for the negative rep.

[fatdaddy67]

That post was directed to those in the thread asking if any warrior dieters eat 2-3 meals instead of the big one in the evening. I was actually backing you up, have followed your logs for quite a long time, and respect you as an early forerunner to documenting the process. Thanks for the negative rep.

My apologies then. I thought you were jumping on board to attack. I will positive rep you as soon as I can.

[bas781]

Not a problem. How's the training going? I think you were on a second shift adjustment last time I was on the thread.

[Leon VorteX]

aaaaaaw. That was ashame, I was enjoying this journal and it suddenly died. Like reading a good book and the last few pages are missing.

I wonder what happened to these guys.. what were there final results?

I guess we'll never know.. but the warrior diet lives on.. in me

[fatdaddy67]

aaaaaaw. That was ashame, I was enjoying this journal and it suddenly died. Like reading a good book and the last few pages are missing.

I wonder what happened to these guys.. what were there final results?

I guess we'll never know.. but the warrior diet lives on.. in me

I've been using a version of the Warrior Diet for almost 2 years now. A little background, and my story.

I am a powerbuilder, generally training for both muscle building and powerlifting at the same time. Next April I will be competing in my first natural bodybuilding contest in Ohio. This fall I may be competing in the 100% Raw Single Lift Worlds. My best lifts to date are a 580 deadlift, 500 squat, and 430 bench.

My point in bringing all this up is simple...I use a version of the Warrior Diet, which brings me some heat from fellow lifters. Yet it works for me.

A couple years back I tried a strict WD. I monitor bodyfat with a caliper, and during a 2 month period I lost an amazing 48 pounds, including 7 pounds of muscle. My LBM dropped from 178 to 171. But, the fat loss was rapid, and incredibly fast. I averaged about 2300-2400 calories per day.

During this time I only had a single piece of string cheese and several strawberries during my underfeeding period.

Last year I left the WD for 6 months, and bulked a bit as I trained for the Worlds. But for the last 8 months I have been back on the WD as cutting for my first bodybuilding competition.

My modified WD includes sipping whey protein all day. I also take in fish oil, and some BCAAs. All told, I take in about 100-110 grams of protein prior to my big meal. I know this isn't exactly text book, but it works for me.

In the last 8 months I am losing fat, not as fast as on a strict WD, but I am NOT losing muscle. Simply by adding in protein during the undereating window, my muscle losses disappeared.

On the average I am eating about 2400 calories. And I am setting PRs nearly month in and month out.

Also, I have dramatically reduced the number of grains I eat. This is more a semi-paleo approach. I rarely eat rice, oatmeal etc. I do allow a couple of weekly refeeds where I eat whatever I want for dinner. And sometimes that includes things like pizza, etc. But I keep my calories in check.

Anyway, merely wanted to share my story. I haven't lost muscle yet. I have many months to go to finish removing my powerlifting lard, and I'm not sure how this approach will serve me when I hit 210 and under, but for right now it's working like a charm.

Here is my Youtube channel so you know I'm not Captain e-stats:

http://www.youtube.com/user/bendthebarman

[FreeFitnessGuru]

I went on the WD a couple of years back

I am over 40 and this diet & kettlebell & weight vest are the ONLY things I have found that can deplete my gut fat without making me lose muscle mass big time.

Now I spend 2-3 days of the week on this diet - the rest I feed more normally

I may go on it for an extended period again at some time

I believe it removes insulin sensitivity.

[ngongongo]

hey for the undereatting stage is it okay to eat lots of fruits/nuts/sunflower seeds/ and protein shakes?.
btw im a huge fan of apples, so i was thinking of 3-6 apples for the undereatting stage, and veges+ lots of meat for the BIG MEAL.

[Riggs75]

Subbed, just catching onto this IF/WD thing. Read through another thread that you posted in fatdaddy and I am super excited to start this diet, I am very intrigued. Was wondering if you might be able to answer a couple question for me? I was wondering in regards to the order that the food is eaten if there are time limits between courses? Say if I start my feast at 6pm, eat my fruit and some veggies, is there then a time limit I must wait before I eat my protein and then again before my carbs?
Also, I am hyperglycemic and was wondering if you might have any insight into how this diet might affect me?

One more thing about the eating schedule. I am a shift worker I work 12 h r shifts, 2 days and then 2 nights. Transitioning between days and nights and not going over the fasting limits is what i'm worried about...
Say i finish my dayshifts Sat night, I feast from 6-10pm and then go to bed. I am normally up by 10am on Sunday and don't go in for night shift until 6pm Sunday night, working till 6am and am in bed by 8am Monday. If I wait to eat from 4am to 8am monday, that will give me a 30 hr fast...not cool, how would you fix this..have some type of small meal around 4 or 5pm maybe sunday before going in for my shift fasting another 12 hrs and then feasting again before bed?

Keep up the great work, I am very excited to try eating this way.

[IDC210]

wow! 2 years! amazing stuff man.. and you're doing it with power lifting too! kudos! i transitioned into the modified WD last week, on a week off of working out.. and i started training again yesterday. i'm doing the HIIT 100s 6 week shred, i too was afraid that working out on an empty stomach would drain my energy levels, but it was the exact opposite. i was pumped and wanting more even at the end of the workout.. i see that you take whey as well at times during the day, could i ask you for some advice on my first underfeeding meal? at 9am i usually take low fat yogurt with 4g BCAA and 2g Fish oil. i want to lose fat but no muscle losses. then the whey at 12pm and 5pm. should i continue with the yogurt or change it completely?