X-Factor in REFORMULATION

[cal62887]

lol, damn it!

Even if he hadn't told you... I think my last name would be a dead giveaway. :)

8======>---- --(.)(.)

Mario doesn't have a last name... It's just "Super Mario"

[chasinSKURT]

Mario doesn't have a last name... It's just "Super Mario"

haaaaaaahahahahaha, I love it. I swear I don't even look italian. You goin to the arnold this year brah?

[cal62887]

haaaaaaahahahahaha, I love it. I swear I don't even look italian. You goin to the arnold this year brah?

Not sure. Getting off of work/school is always tough but I'm sure I'll figure it all out so that I can go. I'm also trying to talk MN into getting a booth. We'll have to see.

What about you?

[chasinSKURT]

Not sure. Getting off of work/school is always tough but I'm sure I'll figure it all out so that I can go. I'm also trying to talk MN into getting a booth. We'll have to see.

What about you?

Same boat as you really. I graduated with a BA last year, but went back to do med school pre reqs... but after this year I seriously doubt I wanna be in school another 9 years. Kicked ass GPA wise, but was totally miserable. Dunno if I'll be in school or working so it's impossible to give a definitive yes.

Most likely be there though, lots of good bro's to meet up with.

[cal62887]

Same boat as you really. I graduated with a BA last year, but went back to do med school pre reqs... but after this year I seriously doubt I wanna be in school another 9 years. Kicked ass GPA wise, but was totally miserable. Dunno if I'll be in school or working so it's impossible to give a definitive yes.

Most likely be there though, lots of good bro's to meet up with.

1. we need to consolidate our conv. :o


2. I know what you mean with work/school. I work 60-70 hours pre week, I sleep at the job on friday and sat. nights since I close at midnight and open at 6 am. I take 15 credit hours during the week (5 classes) and am working on my thesis :mad:

My social life has suffered but I figured that if I put the work in now, that I could relax later on.

I'm taking my first vacation in 4 years on june 12th. I'm going down to play beach volleyball in Hilton Head South Carolina :)

[ChiseledLikeIce]

I believe it was Aeternitatis (and possibly Big Cat) that was adamant about the fact that Ara increased androgen sensitivity and would benefit during an AAS cycle. However, this would depend on the compound that you're running. A PH/DS/AAS that would dry your joints out may only exacerbate a joint problem that Ara would increase.

Ara would also work incredibly well with a PCT cycle to help keep gains from a cycle. This too depends on how your joints would be able to handle it. Some ATD/AI products have been known to dry joints out as well. If you were to run Ara as a part of a PCT, I would suggest taking the Ara 2 weeks before the PCT started.


I figured the samething since Test P. has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 1:1. Made me wonder where would the ArA come in, that's why the "during' PCT use makes sense.

[Blindead]

I've seen it.


I have mixed reviews on it and I think there are some hidden agendas (which I'll stay out of) but both parties have solid arguments. I think the cissus/Ara debate will go on for a long time.

Is there anything your wondering about in particular?

Mostly fishing to see if there would be cissus in the new formula :p

That and wondering whether you know of a dose to stick at (dependant on % purity I guess) where the interaction wouldn't be negative.

[muruku]

Sorry if this is the wrong thread..
Anyone notice the smell of the content in the x-factor caps are really strong?
Opened a bottle yesterday and took out the caps for the day to put into my pillbox and noticed they were all oily and had this strong smell (same as bulk x-factor). Emptied the bottle and found out that a couple of caps had cracks, some were depressed and one was completely crushed. And now my pillbox smells strongly of x-factor, the smell has even permeated my locker. Does anyone have a similar experience? Or am I just unlucky?

[cal62887]

Mostly fishing to see if there would be cissus in the new formula :p

That and wondering whether you know of a dose to stick at (dependant on % purity I guess) where the interaction wouldn't be negative.

Sneaky b@stard :p



Sorry if this is the wrong thread..
Anyone notice the smell of the content in the x-factor caps are really strong?
Opened a bottle yesterday and took out the caps for the day to put into my pillbox and noticed they were all oily and had this strong smell (same as bulk x-factor). Emptied the bottle and found out that a couple of caps had cracks, some were depressed and one was completely crushed. And now my pillbox smells strongly of x-factor, the smell has even permeated my locker. Does anyone have a similar experience? Or am I just unlucky?

My Ara smelled also when one of the caps popped. Fatty Acids smell :(

[SwoleMeat]

Would i be better off just buying the og version? i dont forsee this coming out anytime soon since this thread started last year

[jorgemontenegro]

it is a new day and a new

bump

[adrenergic]

Hey Connor, he got back with the test results from the lipid stabil after 1 month.

17 points down from 349mg/dl LDL
8 points up from 27 mg/dl HDL

Combined with a good diet and some exercise of course, but he bought 3 more bottles.

[muruku]

it is a new day and a new

bump

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
where's the xfactor brahs

[cal62887]

it is a new day and a new

bump

lmao... Nice

Bump this sh@t!

:p


Hey Connor, he got back with the test results from the lipid stabil after 1 month.

17 points down from 349mg/dl LDL
8 points up from 27 mg/dl HDL

Combined with a good diet and some exercise of course, but he bought 3 more bottles.

That's awesome. I'm happy that the product worked, but I'm even happier that he's on the right track. Congratulate him for me.

-C

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
where's the xfactor brahs

:D

[adrenergic]

That's awesome. I'm happy that the product worked, but I'm even happier that he's on the right track. Congratulate him for me.

-C




Strong investment you made lol.

Will do.

[cal62887]

Strong investment you made lol.

Will do.

I think so... If anything else, his health is better.

[kerplunk]

Conor, I pm'd you. Waiting for a response.

[cal62887]

Conor, I pm'd you. Waiting for a response.

Dan,

I'm still ignoring you :p



What does Arasyn mean? I'm not that well briefed on all the supp misc. lingo :o

[kerplunk]

Dan,

I'm still ignoring you :p



What does Arasyn mean? I'm not that well briefed on all the supp misc. lingo :o

Hahahaha, wow thanks man.

[muruku]

Dan,

I'm still ignoring you :p



What does Arasyn mean? I'm not that well briefed on all the supp misc. lingo :o

AraSyn is ArA, its in MusclePharm's Battle Fuel.

[cal62887]

AraSyn is ArA, its in MusclePharm's Battle Fuel.

Yup.

It's a trademark name

[SwoleMeat]

So i just bought a bottle of the version out now, if v2.0 were to comeout during the 1st bottle, could i buy that and use the 2.0 version for days 25-50?

thanks

[cal62887]

So i just bought a bottle of the version out now, if v2.0 were to comeout during the 1st bottle, could i buy that and use the 2.0 version for days 25-50?

thanks

absolutely

[niCe99]

any update when v2.0 comes out?

[Yates Row T]

any update when v2.0 comes out?

not anytime this century, give it up

[cal62887]

any update when v2.0 comes out?


not anytime this century, give it up

eh.... progress actually just started moving along again

;)

[niCe99]

eh.... progress actually just started moving along again

;)

any specific time frame you can release? a month? 2 months? a year?

[jorgemontenegro]

eh.... progress actually just started moving along again

;)

what is this "progress" you speak of?

[Sgt T-Man]

....

[cal62887]

any specific time frame you can release? a month? 2 months? a year?


what is this "progress" you speak of?


....

It's looking good in terms of release date. I'm hesitant to give any definite date because of recent "issues" with the release, but I can tell you that things are FINALLY moving forward.

Trust me, it's just as hard for me as it is for you guys. lol... I want to tell everyone so badly!

[Sgt T-Man]

It's looking good in terms of release date. I'm hesitant to give any definite date because of recent "issues" with the release, but I can tell you that things are FINALLY moving forward.

Trust me, it's just as hard for me as it is for you guys. lol... I want to tell everyone so badly!

we are both 6'2 200 lbs so we are basically brothers...i will expect a PM from you with more detail. :P

[bongd]

It's looking good in terms of release date. I'm hesitant to give any definite date because of recent "issues" with the release, but I can tell you that things are FINALLY moving forward.

Trust me, it's just as hard for me as it is for you guys. lol... I want to tell everyone so badly!

Among other things, cal has just been ITCHING to come out of the closet. But I'll let him do the honors.

You can do it, bro. Share it with the world. We love you no matter what :D

[Sgt T-Man]

Among other things, cal has just been ITCHING to come out of the closet. But I'll let him do the honors.

You can do it, bro. Share it with the world. We love you no matter what :D

i had my suspicion about that..he did just rep me and leave the comment

"i want to be inside of you, i will tell you everything about X-Factor v2 and provide you with free Molecular Nutrition stuff for the rest of your pretty little life"

i repped him back...did i just agree to this by doing such an act?

stay tuned.

[cal62887]

Among other things, cal has just been ITCHING to come out of the closet. But I'll let him do the honors.

You can do it, bro. Share it with the world. We love you no matter what :D

Shouldn't you be planning a wedding?!

:mad:

:D

i had my suspicion about that..he did just rep me and leave the comment

"i want to be inside of you, i will tell you everything about X-Factor v2 and provide you with free Molecular Nutrition stuff for the rest of your pretty little life"

i repped him back...did i just agree to this by doing such an act?

stay tuned.

You basically signed in blood.

A/S/L? :D

[getbustered]

Shouldn't you be planning a wedding?!

:mad:

:D


You basically signed in blood.

A/S/L? :D

13/M/Florida

Don't act surprised. When I told you that originally you said you would be on the next bus to town.

[cal62887]

13/M/Florida

Don't act surprised. When I told you that originally you said you would be on the next bus to town.

lmao. If I was coming over to your house, it would be to see your wife :p

[bongd]

Shouldn't you be planning a wedding?!

:mad:

:D

No, brah. The girls are doing that. I'm the one stressing over how much it's costing me lol :eek: :mad:

[jorgemontenegro]

what's going on

[Atheimetal]

I still have a couple bottles of Version 1.0 laying around.. but being in four/five different states over a 3 week period makes it tough to actually start a cycle of anything. :p

[cal62887]

what's going on

Same old... playing the waiting game :(


I still have a couple bottles of Version 1.0 laying around.. but being in four/five different states over a 3 week period makes it tough to actually start a cycle of anything. :p

Use 'em up!!! http://assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[jjohn]

Gimme de x facder!!!!!!!

[cal62887]

Gimme de x facder!!!!!!!

You're never on MSN anymore :mad:

:(

[JBerto]

Posted 11-08-2008:

Ladies and gents!!

Ahem.. Testing!!

This is to announce we're officialy out of stock. This sucks but there is a reason behind it: We're reformulating X Factor. Get it at the store while you still can if you want to run a cycle soon. By the beginning of January, we will have a new, fresh and swell X Factor!! :D

8 months ago... and still nothing, not even a small hint of which it can be http://assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif

[cal62887]

Posted 11-08-2008:


8 months ago... and still nothing, not even a small hint of which it can be http://assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif

In John's defense, all of these delays were out of the control of both John, myself, and MN. This product should have been out a while ago.

And there are a few hints on this board but you gotta search for them. :cool:

[Surive123]

:o :o

[cal62887]

:o :o

You've got a PM

[Chimpinzo]

In John's defense, all of these delays were out of the control of both John, myself, and MN. This product should have been out a while ago.

And there are a few hints on this board but you gotta search for them. :cool:

:( Misc detectives should be put on the case :(

[cal62887]

:( Misc detectives should be put on the case :(

Ha... it wasn't anything that I said... but it was a knowledgeable poster who isn't "associated" with MN in the traditional sense.

[JmoFinD]

Posted 11-08-2008:


8 months ago... and still nothing, not even a small hint of which it can be http://assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/icons/icon9.gif

x2 if your that far away from having the new product come out then why start a thread about it? Seems like thats a good way to lose hype/sales

[cal62887]

x2 if your that far away from having the new product come out then why start a thread about it? Seems like thats a good way to lose hype/sales

See my explanation.

We didn't expect this delay. John had no way of knowing that this would happen.... none of us had any way of knowing these delays would take place.

On behalf of MN and myself I apologize for any negativity that this brought but good things come to those who wait :D

[M Savin]

What happened to that creatine product you guys had coming out?

[cal62887]

What happened to that creatine product you guys had coming out?

Before my time. Rumor has it that sourcing was an issue but that was a rumor from back in the day and I haven't even looked into it since I have become a rep several years ago.

[JmoFinD]

See my explanation.

We didn't expect this delay. John had no way of knowing that this would happen.... none of us had any way of knowing these delays would take place.

On behalf of MN and myself I apologize for any negativity that this brought but good things come to those who wait :D

Its all good...I still support MN

[jorgemontenegro]

so the delay is related to GNC picking up the new formula?

[DBee]

I can't wait for the release of XFA, should be awesome!

[cal62887]

THE


WAIT


IS


OVER!!!




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[chasinSKURT]

THE


WAIT


IS


OVER!!!




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So you guys added in omega 3's and boswellia serrata... I'm guessing this was to address reports of joint pain? The dosing of the prop blend makes me feel as though there may be more Ara in this formula than the first...

[cal62887]

So you guys added in omega 3's and boswellia serrata... I'm guessing this was to address reports of joint pain? The dosing of the prop blend makes me feel as though there may be more Ara in this formula than the first...

:D



I'm just excited about the Boswellia extract in there. I've seen a few studies where this herb has been shown to inhibit the 5-Lipox. And while the changes aren't groundbreaking, they are proven to work, helpful, and will hopefully prove finally to users that Omega 3s are okay while on Ara


However, the big news about this product has only been slightly released ;)

[muruku]

:D



I'm just excited about the Boswellia extract in there. I've seen a few studies where this herb has been shown to inhibit the 5-Lipox. And while the changes aren't groundbreaking, they are proven to work, helpful, and will hopefully prove finally to users that Omega 3s are okay while on Ara


However, the big news about this product has only been slightly released ;)

Is boswellia same as shallaki from himalaya herbals?

[cal62887]

Is boswellia same as shallaki from himalaya herbals?

Correct.

[chasinSKURT]

:D



I'm just excited about the Boswellia extract in there. I've seen a few studies where this herb has been shown to inhibit the 5-Lipox. And while the changes aren't groundbreaking, they are proven to work, helpful, and will hopefully prove finally to users that Omega 3s are okay while on Ara


However, the big news about this product has only been slightly released ;)

Just get it to the market already... the guilt of never running this product is killing me!

I have 1 bottle that I bought expired from VS, but only plan on using it to 'load' the ara... I wanna run 2 bottles of the new formula after loading the old stuff.

[cal62887]

Just get it to the market already... the guilt of never running this product is killing me!

I have 1 bottle that I bought expired from VS, but only plan on using it to 'load' the ara... I wanna run 2 bottles of the new formula after loading the old stuff.

My gift to you.

[Dentor]

wow disregard my last statement, cant wait to see this come out is there a specific date or anything set yet?

[chasinSKURT]

My gift to you.

Herpes? :)

Let me know if your interested in any possible tradez

[cal62887]

Herpes? :)

Let me know if your interested in any possible tradez

You mean "favors" right? ;)

[TheUnlikelyToad]

Just get it to the market already... the guilt of never running this product is killing me!

I have 1 bottle that I bought expired from VS, but only plan on using it to 'load' the ara... I wanna run 2 bottles of the new formula after loading the old stuff.

Hope for your sake it's only close to being expired... Bill once said that there is no extended shelf life for XF.

[Chimpinzo]

:) When's the writeup being released? Or at least info on the added ingredients?



Nothing makes sense anymore!
X-Factor blended with Anti Inflammatory / Omegas ?

[cal62887]

:) When's the writeup being released? Or at least info on the added ingredients?



Nothing makes sense anymore!
X-Factor blended with Anti Inflammatory / Omegas ?

lmao... I responded to your PM.


It's all about body pathways. Boswellia/5-lox/Shallaki blocks the 5-Lipox which is responsible for joint destruction. Finally, we can narrow the cascade of Ara down the COX to increase Muscle Protein Synthesis.

Which, perhaps, means more beneficial Ara absorption, less joint pain, and more MUSKLES!!!

:D

[Peter LeDrew]

Interesting... I've been a fan of Boswellia for years now being more interested in disease prevention and anti-aging than bodybuilding. If it is the 5-lipoxygenase pathway you want to inhibit, then Bos is your answer. Green lipped mussel is apparently amazing too.

Again, interesting ... I have know that inhibiting the Cox pathway with aspirin and other anti-inflammatories often causes issues with more of an inflammatory cascade towards 5-lipox, which causes as many or more problems... joint destruction, etc... So basically this is like the reverse intention to affect muscle growth via inflammation through more specifically affecting the Cox pathway. More cox, less lipox i guess.

[cal62887]

Interesting... I've been a fan of Boswellia for years now being more interested in disease prevention and anti-aging than bodybuilding. If it is the 5-lipoxygenase pathway you want to inhibit, then Bos is your answer. Green lipped mussel is apparently amazing too.

Again, interesting ... I have know that inhibiting the Cox pathway with aspirin and other anti-inflammatories often causes issues with more of an inflammatory cascade towards 5-lipox, which causes as many or more problems... joint destruction, etc... So basically this is like the reverse intention to affect muscle growth via inflammation through more specifically affecting the Cox pathway. More cox, less lipox i guess.

Exactly. Hopefully we can control the cascade towards healthier and more beneficial pathways.

I trust your judgment on herbs and supplements and I appreciate your response and support.

[Surive123]

gimmie gimmie gimmie!!

:D

[Blindead]

Interesting. I was planning on getting some bulk boswellia and trying it out myself. How pure is your fish oil, or can you not say? IE: w-3 levels?

[kerplunk]

let me get some

[jorgemontenegro]

ok so when is the release date? same price as original? have you beta tested it yet?

[cal62887]

ok so when is the release date? same price as original? have you beta tested it yet?

It's available on the MN website.

Release date is TBA

Beta Tests have shown quicker results which may be due to quicker saturation and less joint pain. If there's quicker saturation than the 2 week build up window could be cut down to say 1 week and since there's still a 2 week washout period, this means 60+ days of effective supplementation, which is a week or more longer than XV v. 1

[alvin1]

So you guys added in omega 3's and boswellia serrata... I'm guessing this was to address reports of joint pain? The dosing of the prop blend makes me feel as though there may be more Ara in this formula than the first...

Nice I will be running it when it hit BB store! I run another product whit AA in it and joint pain was I big down for me ! Good job !

[PaC-mAn8]

Conor......I am proud son :D

Finally got the good news I was waiting to here!

[Iron.Addict]

:) When's the writeup being released? Or at least info on the added ingredients?

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[cal62887]

Yea, I'm sure we'll have an official write-up and pamphlet to distribute with the product.

[muruku]

Hope for your sake it's only close to being expired... Bill once said that there is no extended shelf life for XF.

so once its expired, its no longer effective?!

[TheUnlikelyToad]

so once its expired, its no longer effective?!

I suppose it'll be effective to some degree, but your mileage may vary from non-expired claims.

[muruku]

I suppose it'll be effective to some degree, but your mileage may vary from non-expired claims.

ahh..
dammit. got a couple of tubs of bulk x-factor in the freezer.. wonder if they're still good :confused:

[TheUnlikelyToad]

ahh..
dammit. got a couple of tubs of bulk x-factor in the freezer.. wonder if they're still good :confused:

Probably

[SheWulf]

:D



I'm just excited about the Boswellia extract in there. I've seen a few studies where this herb has been shown to inhibit the 5-Lipox. And while the changes aren't groundbreaking, they are proven to work, helpful, and will hopefully prove finally to users that Omega 3s are okay while on Ara


However, the big news about this product has only been slightly released ;)


The big news is, I can has some?


Just read bout it on your site, how did I miss this? Suppose it was due to the 9million promos right now. Exciting stuff here.

[radaruckus]

I was wondering if it is ok to use Borage Oil, for GLA while using X-factor. I read that Ara and fish oils compete for the same enzymes allowing GLA to become PGE1 and increase cAMP. Thanks for any help

[cal62887]

The big news is, I can has some?


Just read bout it on your site, how did I miss this? Suppose it was due to the 9million promos right now. Exciting stuff here.

Female testers :D


I was wondering if it is ok to use Borage Oil, for GLA while using X-factor. I read that Ara and fish oils compete for the same enzymes allowing GLA to become PGE1 and increase cAMP. Thanks for any help

It all comes down to the amount of Borage oil.

[purts]

Female testers :D

First time I actually wish I didn't have balls.

Wait, wut?

[cal62887]

First time I actually wish I didn't have balls.

Wait, wut?

Purts is a guy?!


WAT?! :confused:




:p

[dbc5]

Im really excited about this news. I think its pretty well known what a big fan I am of X-Factor, so Im pumped about this.

[cal62887]

Im really excited about this news. I think its pretty well known what a big fan I am of X-Factor, so Im pumped about this.

I'm glad you're excited. Hopefully I can get some testing opportunities over here for you.

[dbc5]

I'm glad you're excited. Hopefully I can get some testing opportunities over here for you.

I'd be all over any application thread for a testing opportunity, haha. X-Factor is one of my favorite supplements out there.

[cal62887]

I'd be all over any application thread for a testing opportunity, haha. X-Factor is one of my favorite supplements out there.

Well I'll let you know when the opportunity arises.

[jorgemontenegro]

when is this gonna be on bb.com?

[cal62887]

when is this gonna be on bb.com?

BB.com will cary the original version.


This version is available in GNC

[jorgemontenegro]

So does this mean that MN will continue to make the original XF as well?

[cal62887]

So does this mean that MN will continue to make the original XF as well?

BB.com has an exclusive on this version.

V.1 will be available here and nowhere else. :D

[EricTheRed]

really curious what this stuff is like compared to the orginal V.1

hell i still have my original MN shirt when V.1 came out...needless to say its well worn

[cal62887]

really curious what this stuff is like compared to the orginal V.1

hell i still have my original MN shirt when V.1 came out...needless to say its well worn

There's a board member here (cm3536@#$) that I gave a Large shirt to before his cycle and it was WAY too big for him. By the end of the cycle it fit him perfectly. Now he loves the shirt.

[SWW007]

It's been a while since I've posted and it's good to see this was finally released. I intend to run a cycle but am wondering about it's possible interactions with marijuana? My searches haven't been very helpful as the existing threads got off track very quickly.

[cal62887]

To avoid the topic of illegal drugs, I'll forward you to a thread and a specific post:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=750207&highlight=arachidonic+acid+thc

(post number 11)

[SWW007]

To avoid the topic of illegal drugs, I'll forward you to a thread and a specific post:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=750207&highlight=arachidonic+acid+thc

(post number 11)

My state medically sanctions me to use I do not use illegally. That post was very helpful too, I appreciate any other input.

[cal62887]

My state medically sanctions me to use I do not use illegally. That post was very helpful too, I appreciate any other input.

No worries, SW. I knew you'd never do anything illegal :D

Enjoy the cycle. My PM box is always open.

[Dean6917]

when is xfactor v2 available on bb.com?

[cal62887]

when is xfactor v2 available on bb.com?

It's hard to say... there are so many variables that come into play that any date I would give would be a pure guess.

[m1canes29]

I used the original version of XF back in 2006...what is this second version?

[LOWTESTOSTERONE]

It's hard to say... there are so many variables that come into play that any date I would give would be a pure guess.

Your talking about the advanced version- or an even newer one?

[cal62887]

Your talking about the advanced version- or an even newer one?

The Advanced versoin. We only have 2 versions of X Factor.

[LOWTESTOSTERONE]

The Advanced versoin. We only have 2 versions of X Factor.

it is still only at GNC - correct?

[cal62887]

it is still only at GNC - correct?

Correct

[chasinSKURT]

Correct

You should probably send me some seeing as that I don't shop at GNC.

[niCe99]

When will X-Factor Advanced not be exclusive to GNC?

I am eager to try this out as i am loving the original formula.

[LOWTESTOSTERONE]

When will X-Factor Advanced not be exclusive to GNC?

I am eager to try this out as i am loving the original formula.

Why not just get at GNC? You don't need to wait to try it...

GNC has good deals with the GOLD CARD and coupons

[nath123]

not really even with coupons and gold card gnc still a rip off. BB.com prices beat gnc up to 40-60% right off the bat using gold card prices.

[LOWTESTOSTERONE]

not really even with coupons and gold card gnc still a rip off. BB.com prices beat gnc up to 40-60% right off the bat using gold card prices.

Really?

Even at FULL RETAIL most things are buy one get one 50% OFF and you get additional 20% off that. Example SP250

64.99 = MSRP (for first one)
32.50 = MSRP (50% OFF) Second Tub
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$97.49 - (20% = $19.49) = $78 with no shipping

BB.com = $33.89 http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/super.html
$33.89 + $33.89 = $67.78 plus $6 Shipping.


Yes BodyBuilding.com is cheaper
Yes I buy about 90% of my supplements on this site ($2000+ a year)

But NO - IT IS NOT 40%-60% CHEAPER. In most cases this site is a little cheaper- with excellent service and selection and superfast shipping.

But- Honestly- For someone who wanted to buy Xfactor Advanced. Buy one Get one Free and minus another 20% OFF is a good deal- Certainly good enough to purchase.

It is called BodyBuilding , Not Deal Hunting. Sometimes you gotta pay up. I doubt the small possible savings is worth not trying it- or waiting-

Somtimes people have a mental block over things related to money. That is a shame because Xfactor Advanced is an excellent supplement and worth a try. Knowing you might/could possibly in theory save an additional $10 should not bother someone so much for them not to purchase it from GNC since it is an "GNC EXCLUSIVE"

Otherwise- Do what I am going to do. Do a single bottle of Xfactor Advanced to Jump start your cycle then switch to the normal Xfactor available on this site for much cheaper.

It is cheaper than a 100% Advanced cycle- and just about as effective :)

[LOWTESTOSTERONE]

it is still only at GNC - correct?

buy one and get one 50% off and additional 20% off with gold card. I paid 63$ for first bottle and 31.99$ for second bottle :)

Since is is a GNC exclusive I hope is ok to post this info- If not PM me and I will edit