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tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 01:21 PM
I have just recently added leg press to my strength program. Out of curiosity what is a good weight for me to be maxing out on for leg press?
I'm 18, 6', 170lbs. and do 480x5, 1RM 500+. Is this decent? my goal is 600+ while keeping weight at 180.

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 01:23 PM
if your not maxing 1200 pounds omn leg press at any weight dont even mention your legs press.

I dont work at Ballys
09-28-2008, 01:24 PM
you 2 should become friends.

PotKettleBlack
09-28-2008, 01:28 PM
I have just recently added leg press to my strength program. Out of curiosity what is a good weight for me to be maxing out on for leg press?
I'm 18, 6', 170lbs. and do 480x5, 1RM 500+. Is this decent? my goal is 600+ while keeping weight at 180.
How much do you squat?

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 01:29 PM
you 2 should become friends.

u mirin heavy squats?

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 01:29 PM
so 530lbs. sucks? even at 170, and only 8%BF? It at least makes me feel good to load 4 plates on each side everyday. I add about 25lb. every week...

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 01:31 PM
my squats are actually weak...225x8 reps...don't know why, but they put a lot of strain on my knees.

Halfway
09-28-2008, 01:31 PM
Well, do you go Ass To Sled on those presses? None of this pussy ****, half-rep leg pressing to parallel like most people around these parts do.

You didn't mention if you use an athletic, narrow stance for your leg pressing? That would make it more impressive. Also you need to tell us how long your legs are. The longer your legs, the more impressive the leg pressing. Do you pause at the bottom or cheat and bounce like a fat kid pretending to bench press?

Without this important information we can't really help you that much.

freeride88
09-28-2008, 01:35 PM
If you're not leg pressing over 2000lbs or over 1000lbs and are over 70 years old, don't tell anyone you leg press.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 01:35 PM
Yes, ass to sled is how its done...better to do 480lbs ass to sled than 600 half...get more results from the right technique. At 6'0, im 60/40 legs, and I use a shoulder width grip, and no I use a 4-2-1 tempo. The only explosion is upwards. Going down takes 4 sec. and I pause for 2. Thats why I can go up everyweek. Good form (I'm training strength)

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 01:39 PM
remember people I'm 170lbs. leg pressing 1000lbs. is nearly 5x my bodyweight. A bit extreme don't you think.

Halfway
09-28-2008, 01:43 PM
Well in that case it sounds pretty damn impressive!

If you were a fat kid, using a wider stance and not going all the way down ATG then it wouldn't be very good at all... not at all impressive. In fact it would be grounds for someone to call you fat and say you suck at lifting over and over and over again.

But since low weight lifts done slowly, with a pause, ATG by small people with long limbs are more impressive, I would say that's the equivalent of at least a 600lb squat.

Arlecchino
09-28-2008, 01:44 PM
There is no correlation between different types of leg press, ROM is difficult to judge, etc.

Really, not the most applicable lift to improve your squat, either.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 01:45 PM
my squatting is far weaker, but for some reason squatting puts pretty bad stress on my knees and leg press doesn't. I'm gonna try to invest in some straps. But yeah, I don't like to throw up massive amounts of weight only going down 12 inches. All your gonna do is get laughter, not stronger.

isaku900
09-28-2008, 01:50 PM
leg press is awful. don't ever say anything about your leg press "stats" ever again.

learn how to squat. it puts a lot of strain on your knees because you're doing it wrong.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 01:52 PM
actually, I've been doing squats for a while...the stress is new, under the bottom pat of the kneecap, but I lift through it, but am only currently throwing up 225x5, but at one time was doing 300+ 5x....my leg lifts tend to go up fast.

babyslayer
09-28-2008, 01:54 PM
I leg press so much that I no longer do the exercise just because its pointless






I can do 600 for a few reps on squats or I can load up 2000lbs on leg press, GEEE wonder which one Im going to go for.

isaku900
09-28-2008, 01:58 PM
actually, I've been doing squats for a while...the stress is new, under the bottom pat of the kneecap, but I lift through it, but am only currently throwing up 225x5, but at one time was doing 300+ 5x....my leg lifts tend to go up fast.

i don't care if you've been doing them for a while, you're experiencing joint pain during the lift which is indicative of poor technique/form.

but you could always ignore people who squat 2-3x what you do and keep leg pressing your way to stardom.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 02:03 PM
No, you hearing me wrong....squats will ALWAYS be in my workout...it its THE ultimate strength and mass builder....I just like to throw leg press in cause the make me thighs feel gggoooodooooodddd.

isaku900
09-28-2008, 02:04 PM
No, you hearing me wrong....squats will ALWAYS be in my workout...it its THE ultimate strength and mass builder....I just like to throw leg press in cause the make me thighs feel gggoooodooooodddd.

no you're hearing me wrong...

you're squatting incorrectly. learn how to do it right.

stop ****ing around on the leg press

SoaringSwine
09-28-2008, 02:05 PM
Unless you are performing the said exercise like this:

http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/images8/leg_press.gif

Then noone cares.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 02:09 PM
On my squats I know its from not so much technique as leg position...I'm still in the "adjusting" phase to find that "sweet spot" where my legs feel really comfortable...does anyone know what I mean? I've been into strength triaining for like 5 weeks now and its a change, its real demanding on your body, so I'm still adjusting

isaku900
09-28-2008, 02:12 PM
On my squats I know its from not so much technique as leg position...I'm still in the "adjusting" phase to find that "sweet spot" where my legs feel really comfortable...does anyone know what I mean? I've been into strength triaining for like 5 weeks now and its a change, its real demanding on your body, so I'm still adjusting

no...you're doing it wrong.

if you think the leg press is legitimate strength builder your credibility as to your ability to judge your own squat form is 0.

ctwice23
09-28-2008, 02:13 PM
what a pussy, 500 is weak...go suck a 500 pound cock

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 02:15 PM
All I know is my feet are slighter wider than shoulder press, and when I go down, I keep my chest out, and go down to parellel and then explode up...how can that be wrong...in terms of squat..whats a good type of program for strength to go up fast??? I'm currently on a 5x5. Is there something better? Maybe German Volume Training?

freeride88
09-28-2008, 02:17 PM
This thread is a waste of time. He's been training for five weeks, fellas. Leave him alone, he knows what he's talking about.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 02:19 PM
Read the post....I asked for help...I've been STRENGTH training for 5 weeks. I used to just do Hypertrophy, but decided that I would rather weigh 180 and throw up more weight than heavier people. So please starting advice is well adviced.

isaku900
09-28-2008, 02:20 PM
This thread is a waste of time. He's been training for five weeks, fellas. Leave him alone, he knows what he's talking about.

oh **** my bad, I forgot everyone is an expert in their first month.

those guys who've been lifting for 5-10 years and are still open to technique help/changes and advice must be real ****ups.

DManiac
09-28-2008, 02:21 PM
Having a big leg press is kinda like buying expensive cloths, buying expensive cars, and other things that look real cool. it may look cool, but deep down inside your still a big ****in tool.


To all the other people on this page that are insulting him, calling him weak, etc; realize this, some people just dont know any better, so dont insult him, just explain it to him.

weightWombat
09-28-2008, 02:21 PM
You also have to take into consideration the mechanical advantage inherent to many leg press machines. Depending on their configuration your 500 pounds could shrink dramatically. In fact, it's probably closer to and effective 353 pounds.

Also, everyone here HATES the leg press.

ctwice23
09-28-2008, 02:22 PM
all i know is if i see this guy in real life i'm gonna cut his nuts off and put them on the squat bar so he can slowly work his way up to 2.5's on each side

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 02:26 PM
dude, I want to learn to strength train. Fine, rule one....f*** the leg press. Someone help me get started then.

And cade, quit posting on my forums you douche

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 02:34 PM
Well, do you go Ass To Sled on those presses? None of this pussy ****, half-rep leg pressing to parallel like most people around these parts do.

You didn't mention if you use an athletic, narrow stance for your leg pressing? That would make it more impressive. Also you need to tell us how long your legs are. The longer your legs, the more impressive the leg pressing. Do you pause at the bottom or cheat and bounce like a fat kid pretending to bench press?

Without this important information we can't really help you that much.

you basically described my form, then asked about babyslayers form in all one post. =_/.

and i know your being sarcastic, but him doing **** form is no consollation even if he was benching 600 pounds. hes all geneteics.

SoaringSwine
09-28-2008, 02:39 PM
you basically described my form, then asked about babyslayers form in all one post. =_/.

Strong ability to detect mockery.

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 02:40 PM
actually, I've been doing squats for a while...the stress is new, under the bottom pat of the kneecap, but I lift through it, but am only currently throwing up 225x5, but at one time was doing 300+ 5x....my leg lifts tend to go up fast.

strong decline on squats.

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 02:40 PM
Strong ability to detect mockery.

i saw his sarcasm just fine just did not give him the reaction he was hoping for.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 02:43 PM
yeah declined after taking a year off...was lifting for like 2 years, then took a break. Now I'm back and am trying to get stronger than ever...

ctwice23
09-28-2008, 02:47 PM
keep up the good work tony!!! your leg press is really astonishing

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 02:49 PM
theres nothing wrong with doing leg press. just do squats too like you said. everyones mad cause u put priority over your squats by stating your leg press stats which arent as important. i personally only do squats for legs but i used to JUST do leg extensions and bodyweight squats. and i did it once a month cause leg press was to scary for me.



btw i have trouble squatting 260 ass to grass =(.

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 02:50 PM
keep up the good work tony!!! your leg press is really astonishing

i wish i was 6'6 it must be awesome. squats would suck at that height though. how deep do you go?

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 02:55 PM
dont listen to him, hes more into his upper body, I want all around strength in the big three. And everyone took this post out of control. I wasn't meaning to prioritize my leg press over squat, I was simplly wondering if that was okay for my size or if I was weak, case in point. I didn't mean that its more important than squats, like I stated. Squats are THE ultimate strength and mass builder. They will NEVER be out of my training.

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 02:56 PM
dont listen to him, hes more into his upper body, I want all around strength in the big three. And everyone took this post out of control. I wasn't meaning to prioritize my leg press over squat, I was simplly wondering if that was okay for my size or if I was weak, case in point. I didn't mean that its more important than squats, like I stated. Squats are THE ultimate strength and mass builder. They will NEVER be out of my training.

DONT LSITEN TO ME??? IM LIKE THE ONLY ONE IN THIS THREAD BEING SORT OF NICE TO YOU. NEGGED.

ctwice23
09-28-2008, 02:57 PM
Don't listen to tony, his medium three add up to my big one

ctwice23
09-28-2008, 02:58 PM
i wish i was 6'6 it must be awesome. squats would suck at that height though. how deep do you go?

parallel, they do suck tho haha

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 02:59 PM
sorry sickonstorm....I was talking about ctwice...he doesn't care bout nothing but his upper body. No, I'm there with you...

PotKettleBlack
09-28-2008, 02:59 PM
Here's some good advice OP, put sickonstorm on ignore. And try to forget anything he might have said, which shouldn't be difficult, considering I doubt he's given any advice, instead of just saying rubbish based on what he can do, or something, either way I don't care.

As for anyone else quoting him, that's a sign he's not on your ignore list, and we need everyone to follow that so we can stop trolls like him ruining this forum.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 03:00 PM
I dread legs, but as they get stronger, sure, my squats will reign as my favorite once again, its just frustrating to lose all my strength and have to start over.

SoaringSwine
09-28-2008, 03:01 PM
I saw your post in the workout journal section about your bench press (wrong section by the way, it's for people recording their workouts). Anyway... What programme are you on at the moment? Also, 170 @ 6' is probably giving you ****ty leverages, I'd up the food intake to solve that problem.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 03:03 PM
yeah, I'm doing the famous 5x5...it was a program our football coach got us on in H.S. so its all Ive known....its hard to learn to train for strength....can't find any advice

Arlecchino
09-28-2008, 03:05 PM
DONT LSITEN TO ME??? IM LIKE THE ONLY ONE IN THIS THREAD BEING SORT OF NICE TO YOU. NEGGED.

Interesting. I took you off ignore while you were banned.

Negged on recharge.

SoaringSwine
09-28-2008, 03:06 PM
yeah, I'm doing the famous 5x5...it was a program our football coach got us on in H.S. so its all Ive known....its hard to learn to train for strength....can't find any advice

And how did you end up losing strength?

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 03:06 PM
sorry sickonstorm....I was talking about ctwice...he doesn't care bout nothing but his upper body. No, I'm there with you...
its cool just keep working on getting your squat to 315 im working at that.

rolf....

ii never noticed sickstorm being a troll.. is he really a troll?

im not a troll people are just mad i have different training methods man. if i havent proved to be a troll to you, then its most likely haters.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 03:07 PM
Im not getting it? Why are ppl iggying storm?

Arlecchino
09-28-2008, 03:07 PM
Im not getting it? Why are ppl iggying storm?

Just read his posts for a while, and you will understand.

And I repped you to put you back into the green.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 03:08 PM
I went through depression and stopped working out...lost almost 30lbs. cause I stopped eating...picture a suicidal, depressed, 6' 150lb dude....yeah, scary...happy to say...cured, 170lbs. and still trying to grow

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 03:09 PM
storm just gave me advice...he never said anything mean or anything to me. Hes giving me advice just like yall. Thats all I need is advice help me on my way.

ctwice23
09-28-2008, 03:11 PM
it's cool guys i love being in the freaking red for no reason.. on a positive note, tony is a good squatter

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 03:11 PM
Im not getting it? Why are ppl iggying storm?

i ont know what iggying means, but alot of people hate the truth. and i dont like 5x5 too much man. im not making any gains. its evil. =P)

i also pmed ironmike and told hi mabout the lifetime negs im ggetting thats bannable. should i post the rules guise???.

Mata Leao
09-28-2008, 03:11 PM
Just read his posts for a while, and you will understand.

And I repped you to put you back into the green.

wow ... hey man u got any for the black man.. ive been good in the forums!
(no beg)

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 03:13 PM
arlecchino thank you...the favor is returned

SoaringSwine
09-28-2008, 03:15 PM
I went through depression and stopped working out...lost almost 30lbs. cause I stopped eating...picture a suicidal, depressed, 6' 150lb dude....yeah, scary...happy to say...cured, 170lbs. and still trying to grow

Okay in that case I'd suggest getting back on to 5x5 and eating heaps while you're at it. Check your weight every few weeks, if you're not gaining then eat more. You should be able to regain the strength you lost in not too long. Once your gains run out from 5x5 then you'll need to switch it up.

Check these threads out:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=48370
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4475713

And these websites:
http://www.westside-barbell.com/articles.htm
http://www.fortified-iron.com/forum/

Read everything until your eyes bleed. That way when your gains stop on 5x5 you'll have some idea of what to do next.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 03:16 PM
I agree, not a big fan of 5x5, but I push steady gains, cause I'm always pushing my weight up...but I don't know much about strength programs. But yeah, I'm at a plateu. I eat A LOT and I'm still a 170. Every meal I feel sick I'm so full, I always hit 170 and stop, I never push passed it..

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 03:17 PM
ohh u dont like 5x5? thats ok ...aslong as u see the benefit in squatting and deadlifting...

nothing better then those 2 lifts i wanna get as strong as i can with them deading 400 soon and i cant wait to squat 315 so close!

i like 5x5 a lot. its simple all compounds none of the bull**** like iwas doing before. i jsut have trouble adding 5 pounds a week. it sucks. and its weird. my 5rm is going up but 1rm is staying the same. like i squat 230x6 but 260x1 atg. but im sure if i squat 260x5 my 1rm will go up.

SoaringSwine
09-28-2008, 03:20 PM
I agree, not a big fan of 5x5, but I push steady gains, cause I'm always pushing my weight up...but I don't know much about strength programs. But yeah, I'm at a plateu. I eat A LOT and I'm still a 170. Every meal I feel sick I'm so full, I always hit 170 and stop, I never push passed it..

Eat more often throughout the day. Or just add oil to pretty much every meal including shakes etc. Simple way to boost your calorie intake.

tonyblack2008
09-28-2008, 03:26 PM
yeah, I need to go buy some flaxseed oil, but I have the same problem...I can get my 5x5 through the roof, but it doesn't comensate for my 1RM.

SoaringSwine
09-28-2008, 03:28 PM
yeah, I need to go buy some flaxseed oil, but I have the same problem...I can get my 5x5 through the roof, but it doesn't comensate for my 1RM.

Don't worry too much about that for the time being. You'll use 5x5 as a good base for size and strength. Later on you can focus more on maximal efforts.

Arlecchino
09-28-2008, 03:33 PM
it's cool guys i love being in the freaking red for no reason.. on a positive note, tony is a good squatter

Green is better.

sickonstorm
09-28-2008, 03:35 PM
dont worry about ur 1rm.... just keep doing 5x5 and always try to do em atg.... and aslong as they keep going up ur fine.. my squat and deadlift have been going up for 8 months now im happy... i never used to squat or dead before... now they r what my routine are based on.. so i love em

ur an atg guy too? nice. yea i cant wait to squat over 300 atg, thats whats holding my totasl back.

babyslayer
09-28-2008, 03:45 PM
you basically described my form, then asked about babyslayers form in all one post. =_/.

and i know your being sarcastic, but him doing **** form is no consollation even if he was benching 600 pounds. hes all geneteics.

wow strong call out to offend me

you really are a lonly person to seek this kind of attention

Arlecchino
09-28-2008, 03:47 PM
wow strong call out to offend me

you really are a lonly person to seek this kind of attention

The ignore feature works wonders. I regret taking him off of it.

PotKettleBlack
09-28-2008, 03:51 PM
The ignore feature works wonders. I regret taking him off of it.
Ya rly. Please put him back on ignore, Slayer.

babyslayer
09-28-2008, 03:54 PM
Ya rly. Please put him back on ignore, Slayer.

I wish there was a part of the ignore function where I didnt have to see him post at all........

Mitsuomi
09-28-2008, 04:15 PM
wow OP your strong! you competing in powerlifting/strongman anytime soon?

DManiac
09-28-2008, 04:16 PM
You also have to take into consideration the mechanical advantage inherent to many leg press machines. Depending on their configuration your 500 pounds could shrink dramatically. In fact, it's probably closer to and effective 353 pounds.

Also, everyone here HATES the leg press.

Good reason as well. Ive seen soooooo many bodybuilders who can leg press a lot of weight, but sure as **** cannot squat anything at all. Leg Press is instant gratification, any dip**** can sit down a bang out a set, but it takes a person with conviction; Strap on your c***, leave your p**** at home, put a bar on your back, and bend your knees." Captain Kirk

ProStrongman
09-28-2008, 04:25 PM
Don't forget about front squats. I am a strong believer in the front squat. I swear by it. You have to cycle both back and front squats to make huge gains in your leg strength. Your not going to do as much, but it is far more beneficial in gaining raw pushing power.

metaldrummer
09-28-2008, 05:27 PM
If you look at previous threads you'd know that I recently leg pressed 2000lbs with one leg. So to be blunt, you suck.

DocTest
09-28-2008, 07:25 PM
I have just recently added leg press to my strength program. Out of curiosity what is a good weight for me to be maxing out on for leg press?
I'm 18, 6', 170lbs. and do 480x5, 1RM 500+. Is this decent? my goal is 600+ while keeping weight at 180.

Throw some gear on. The Titan Quad ply LP 4000 will give you a good half ton maybe a bit more if you customize it.

soloskater1
09-28-2008, 07:30 PM
ur an atg guy too? nice. yea i cant wait to squat over 300 atg, thats whats holding my totasl back.

lol strong squat

Beast003
09-29-2008, 03:23 PM
Strap on your c***, leave your p**** at home, put a bar on your back, and bend your knees." Captain Kirk
HAHA. I forgot about that quote...it's so true though.

thor93
09-29-2008, 03:33 PM
If you look at previous threads you'd know that I recently leg pressed 2000lbs with one leg. So to be blunt, you suck.


there was this one huge fellow that went to the same gym as me back in the 90's.he was 6-3 285 lbs.had 30" quads and could squat over 700 lbs.

he could leg press 900 using just one leg.he did that right after watching this one fellow who got all excited and started celebrating after he did a 900 lb leg press.needless to say,the fellow who did the 900 using both legs stopped celebrating immedietely and walked right out of the gym.

i remember telling my younger brother about it a few years back and he was like,"man!,that is so cold!"...but anyway....

Ronnie Coleman's max on leg press is 2300.that's got to be right up there towards and quite near world record leg press max outs.

i stick to pistol squats,leg curls and bike sprints myself.