Getting in Shape for wrestling

[ghostrider11907]

Hey guys, I just signed up on this forum, and needed some help. Im 22 years old and I am just about finished my degree, have a year left, but have been thinking of pursuing a career in wrestling. I thought that I would spend my remaining year trying to get fit and learn some ji jitsu, catch can wrestling, and muay thai as well as building strength/endurance, before going to a school. Here lies the problem, I am 220 and 20 percent bodyfat. And my strength and endurance suck. Max lifts squat 150 bench 150 deadlift 185 max pushups 30 max hindu squats 200. I have been working out and dropped 20 pounds I was 240 but I need help especially since Ive been reading some places want 1000 squats and pushups.

a) how do I increase my numbers in pushups/squats
b) should I focus on that then proceed to weights, or vice versa?

right now my workouts are 30 mins of jogging (3 miles sometimes 4) in the morning and weight lifting (fullbody) in the afternoon. I thought I would cut down to 190 and then build back up.

[TheChamp316]

here ya go....some high quality info from the man himself....

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[C-Squared]

Focus on squats, benching, and deads... make sure you STRETCH, flexibility is the most important part of wrestling. I just started a beginner's stretching program for this very reason... you're gonna wanna pack on as much muscle mass as you can now because you can't do it when you're in the ring, you have less recovery time... just try to get big right now, and don't let your cardio negate your muscle gains!

[ghostrider11907]

So you think I should just continue on with weights?

my routine is as follows

30-45 mins cardio 5x week

3 x week weights

squat3x5
deadlift 3x5 (its more roman deadlift than reg)
incline bench 3x5
db cleans 3x5

[AusPower]

So you think I should just continue on with weights?

my routine is as follows

30-45 mins cardio 5x week

3 x week weights

squat3x5
deadlift 3x5 (its more roman deadlift than reg)
incline bench 3x5
db cleans 3x5

If this is all prior to actually joining a school then continue lifting hard and heavy by all means. Where is your program from? Rippetoes? It looks like it probaly is.

[ghostrider11907]

yeah it is prior to joining a school. and no its not rippetoes, more like advice I was given by some old timers. this is phase 1 the next phase involves military presses and rows and is more higher in reps and then phase 3 is an upper/lower split.

What is your suggestion about hindu squats and pushups and getting my numbers high in those 2?

[C-Squared]

BTW, I just re-read your first post, there isn't ANYONE who's doing 1,000 pushups haha, don't believe that for a second.

[ghostrider11907]

BTW, I just re-read your first post, there isn't ANYONE who's doing 1,000 pushups haha, don't believe that for a second.

well Ive been searching over the net, some sites have listed the following

400 pushups
500 pushups
and the 1000 pushups I got from sites talking about hiro matsuda and inoki. although I believe its 10 sets of 100.

again i am trying to get an understanding of what I need in preparation. Although strength is important I understand that Bryan Danileson doesnt lift, along with some others.

[kronzino]

Can't forget all the core/neck training.

[Disenfranchised]

You're a far ways away from being in good enough shape to even consider getting into pro wrestling. You're going to get worked into the ground kid.

[DontTreadOnMe]

You're a far ways away from being in good enough shape to even consider getting into pro wrestling. You're going to get worked into the ground kid.

why dont you offer advice instead of just being a jackass to him?

[Disenfranchised]

why dont you offer advice instead of just being a jackass to him?

Why don't you get off my nuts and stop responding to every one of my posts. I get it, you have an e-grudge with me because I said you have no abs. Move on.

[DontTreadOnMe]

Why don't you get off my nuts and stop responding to every one of my posts. I get it, you have an e-grudge with me because I said you have no abs. Move on.

actually its the other way around bro

everytime I post you have to find a way to insult me, as well as everyone else on this forum

you're a sad sad kid

[ghostrider11907]

read the first post, Im starting my journey. spending a year while Im in school builindg strength/endurance and learning mma. Then in a year when my degree's finished Im gonna attempt joining a wrestling school. So what can I do in a year to say year and a half to get ready.

[Disenfranchised]

actually its the other way around bro

everytime I post you have to find a way to insult me, as well as everyone else on this forum

you're a sad sad kid

After I posted you came along and attacked me. Now you're still doing it. Move on dude.

[Disenfranchised]

read the first post, Im starting my journey. spending a year while Im in school builindg strength/endurance and learning mma. Then in a year when my degree's finished Im gonna attempt joining a wrestling school. So what can I do in a year to say year and a half to get ready.

That's what I saying dude. You've waited too long to just start getting in shape. Have you even played a competitive sport in your life? It doesn't sound like it.

[TheChamp316]

well Ive been searching over the net, some sites have listed the following

400 pushups
500 pushups
and the 1000 pushups I got from sites talking about hiro matsuda and inoki. although I believe its 10 sets of 100.

again i am trying to get an understanding of what I need in preparation. Although strength is important I understand that Bryan Danileson doesnt lift, along with some others.

you should also be doing alot of reading around these forums...like workout section, supplement section and so on....you will learn a ton of info....

[DontTreadOnMe]

After I posted you came along and attacked me. Now you're still doing it. Move on dude.

I responded to your post where you were a jackass to a guy just looking for some help

[Disenfranchised]

I responded to your post where you were a jackass to a guy just looking for some help

Good for you.

[TheChamp316]

I responded to your post where you were a jackass to a guy just looking for some help


Good for you.

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in another words.....take your cat fight somewhere else please.....

[TheChamp316]

read the first post, Im starting my journey. spending a year while Im in school builindg strength/endurance and learning mma. Then in a year when my degree's finished Im gonna attempt joining a wrestling school. So what can I do in a year to say year and a half to get ready.

do you have an idea of where your gonna train at?

[ghostrider11907]

do you have an idea of where your gonna train at?

lance storm's academy is nearby, but I am interested in the Inoki dojo.

[TheChamp316]

lance storm's academy is nearby, but I am interested in the Inoki dojo.

i would call them now....tell them your plan, and ask them what you should be doing exactly to get yourself into shape so your ready when the time comes for you to sign up....i am pretty sure they would not have a problem talking about some things you should do, cause they are gonna want you to come into training in shape.....

[sXeWarrior]

I was watching a documentary on Deep South wrestling and their head trainers said the best student to come into the school is one that has absolutely NO sports background. They are easier to mold or something.

[Disenfranchised]

I was watching a documentary on Deep South wrestling and their head trainers said the best student to come into the school is one that has absolutely NO sports background. They are easier to mold or something.

Bull****. You need to have some sort of prior discipline in sports or else you'll get ran all over. Are you saying Kurt Angle isn't suited for pro wrestling? :rolleyes:

[TheChamp316]

Bull****. You need to have some sort of prior discipline in sports or else you'll get ran all over. Are you saying Kurt Angle isn't suited for pro wrestling? :rolleyes:

yes, thats exactly what he said....those roids are destroying your brain cells there pumpkin...

[sXeWarrior]

Bull****. You need to have some sort of prior discipline in sports or else you'll get ran all over. Are you saying Kurt Angle isn't suited for pro wrestling? :rolleyes:

I didn't say it. The trainers at Deep South did.

[Disenfranchised]

I didn't say it. The trainers at Deep South did.

I'd like to see a video or link to this. I don't believe it for a second.

[sXeWarrior]

I'd like to see a video or link to this. I don't believe it for a second.

Its on the Learning the Ropes show. I think about episode 4 or 5. I didn't ask you to believe it. That's your choice if you don't. . just makes you look more ignorant.

[TheChamp316]

I'd like to see a video or link to this. I don't believe it for a second.


Its on the Learning the Ropes show. I think about episode 4 or 5. I didn't ask you to believe it. That's your choice if you don't. . just makes you look more ignorant.

if you do have a link, i would like to see it....not for the reason dumbass wants though.....i just want to watch it....is it on tv or online?

[Insane Clown]

i would call them now....tell them your plan, and ask them what you should be doing exactly to get yourself into shape so your ready when the time comes for you to sign up....i am pretty sure they would not have a problem talking about some things you should do, cause they are gonna want you to come into training in shape..... This is a good idea.

That said, despite what others have said on this thread, don't be afraid to join a wrestling school until you are in 'great' shape. Wrestling will help you get in shape, too. Yeah, it's better to be in good shape before you start, but let me quote the Rings Wrestling School FAQ here:

"Wrestling is a very vigorous, athletic endeavor.We encourage you to be in good shape to meet the demands of training. That being said, we have people of all sizes and athletic abilities training here. Do not put off being a wrestler because you don't feel like you're in good enough shape, training will get you in better shape than you will accomplish on your own time."




I was watching a documentary on Deep South wrestling and their head trainers said the best student to come into the school is one that has absolutely NO sports background. They are easier to mold or something. Huh. I wonder why they would say that. Actually, in my experience training guys and training myself, I think athletic minded individuals, amateur wrestling experience in particular, are preferred to many of the non-athletes who come to train.

Yeah, some guys have habits you have to break (for example, amateur wrestlers seem to always put their heads down when they lock-up, and that's a sure fire way to knock heads in pro wrestling), but guys who come from other sports have a better understanding of what the physical demands of pro wrestling are going to be.

I think so many people hear the 'wrestling is fake' B.S. so much that they think they can just jump off the couch and be a wrestler. They come into training wanting to talk about their ring gear and their wrestling name and are totally unprepared for the conditioning drills and skills training and always end up quitting or half-assing everything, to the detriment of everyone else training.


I just want to clarify though and say that I am not advocating the WWE mentality of hiring every big and buff football player and thinking they will be a great wrestler. A love of wrestling and dedication to your training are all you need. But because so many people think of wrestling as just a 'show', they forget these guys are professional athletes, and if you want to be a good or successful (however you define success) wrestler, you have to be prepared to train like an athlete.

[TheChamp316]

This is a good idea.

That said, despite what others have said on this thread, don't be afraid to join a wrestling school until you are in 'great' shape. Wrestling will help you get in shape, too. Yeah, it's better to be in good shape before you start, but let me quote the Rings Wrestling School FAQ here:

"Wrestling is a very vigorous, athletic endeavor.We encourage you to be in good shape to meet the demands of training. That being said, we have people of all sizes and athletic abilities training here. Do not put off being a wrestler because you don't feel like you're in good enough shape, training will get you in better shape than you will accomplish on your own time."



Huh. I wonder why they would say that. Actually, in my experience training guys and training myself, I think athletic minded individuals, amateur wrestling experience in particular, are preferred to many of the non-athletes who come to train.

Yeah, some guys have habits you have to break (for example, amateur wrestlers seem to always put their heads down when they lock-up, and that's a sure fire way to knock heads in pro wrestling), but guys who come from other sports have a better understanding of what the physical demands of pro wrestling are going to be.

I think so many people hear the 'wrestling is fake' B.S. so much that they think they can just jump off the couch and be a wrestler. They come into training wanting to talk about their ring gear and their wrestling name and are totally unprepared for the conditioning drills and skills training and always end up quitting or half-assing everything, to the detriment of everyone else training.


I just want to clarify though and say that I am not advocating the WWE mentality of hiring every big and buff football player and thinking they will be a great wrestler. A love of wrestling and dedication to your training are all you need. But because so many people think of wrestling as just a 'show', they forget these guys are professional athletes, and if you want to be a good or successful (however you define success) wrestler, you have to be prepared to train like an athlete.

you need to post in this section more....

[C-Squared]

I'd like to see a video or link to this. I don't believe it for a second.

I thought it was common knowledge that the WWE was steering away from converting athletes... they got embarrassed by Brock Lesnar and Bobby Lashley after pouring everything they had into their pushes... the main eventers right now all have little to no sports background, depending on if you count high school or not ;)

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

I was not in shape when I started training, and the only really sporty thing I did in my youth was horse riding. Its not essential to be rippling with muscle before you start.

[ExtremeEnigma]

jogging for 30-45 minutes is going to jack **** for your conditioning as far as relevance to wrestling. i would suggest some combination of the following

- HIIT (high intensity interval training)

- sled dragging

- strongman implements (vehicle push, tire flip, farmers walk, wheelbarrow push, plate carries, various implement carries, etc.)

- barbell complexes ( http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/complexes_for_fat_loss )

this type of training, in addition to being way more specific to wrestling than slow, steady-state "cardio", will bring your body fat to a good level as well. make sure you get your lifts up too though.

[Disenfranchised]

I was not in shape when I started training

You're still not in shape.

[PotKettleBlack]

My advice is to not ask in this section, because even though it might seem like it would be relevant, evidently people would rather talk **** to each other and yourself.

:D

[TheChamp316]

You're still not in shape.

she is in better shape than you.....twiggy.....

[AusPower]

You're still not in shape.

For a guy who has never even attempted wrestling you sure act like you know it all.

You're big and athletic but how does that correlate to you being an expert on what it takes to be a pro wrestler?

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

Dis will take any opportunity to have a dig. He probably is in better shape than me, but so what? I'm 40 years old for a start. And I have a life outside insulting people on internet forums.

[TheChamp316]

Dis is is banned....ha ha.....you dumbass....

[...Kennedy]

I'm 40 years old for a start. And I have a life outside insulting people on internet forums.

My hat's off to you Lady Aphrodite, I couldn't imagine attempting something like wrestling at this stage of life.

[C-Squared]

This is a good idea.

That said, despite what others have said on this thread, don't be afraid to join a wrestling school until you are in 'great' shape. Wrestling will help you get in shape, too. Yeah, it's better to be in good shape before you start, but let me quote the Rings Wrestling School FAQ here:

"Wrestling is a very vigorous, athletic endeavor.We encourage you to be in good shape to meet the demands of training. That being said, we have people of all sizes and athletic abilities training here. Do not put off being a wrestler because you don't feel like you're in good enough shape, training will get you in better shape than you will accomplish on your own time."



Huh. I wonder why they would say that. Actually, in my experience training guys and training myself, I think athletic minded individuals, amateur wrestling experience in particular, are preferred to many of the non-athletes who come to train.

Yeah, some guys have habits you have to break (for example, amateur wrestlers seem to always put their heads down when they lock-up, and that's a sure fire way to knock heads in pro wrestling), but guys who come from other sports have a better understanding of what the physical demands of pro wrestling are going to be.

I think so many people hear the 'wrestling is fake' B.S. so much that they think they can just jump off the couch and be a wrestler. They come into training wanting to talk about their ring gear and their wrestling name and are totally unprepared for the conditioning drills and skills training and always end up quitting or half-assing everything, to the detriment of everyone else training.


I just want to clarify though and say that I am not advocating the WWE mentality of hiring every big and buff football player and thinking they will be a great wrestler. A love of wrestling and dedication to your training are all you need. But because so many people think of wrestling as just a 'show', they forget these guys are professional athletes, and if you want to be a good or successful (however you define success) wrestler, you have to be prepared to train like an athlete.

They say that all body types are allowed because if they alienate people, they get less money. Let's not forget that whether anyone "makes it" or not, they're paying to be there.

I personally refuse to go to a school until I'm 200 lbs and pretty muscular... I just don't see why anyone would go in under their fitness goal, its like not studying for a test you know is important!

[Insane Clown]

They say that all body types are allowed because if they alienate people, they get less money. Let's not forget that whether anyone "makes it" or not, they're paying to be there.

I personally refuse to go to a school until I'm 200 lbs and pretty muscular... I just don't see why anyone would go in under their fitness goal, its like not studying for a test you know is important! While your cynicism is not unjustified, the gist of the statement I quoted remains true.

This part in particular is important to read: "Do not put off being a wrestler because you don't feel like you're in good enough shape, training will get you in better shape than you will accomplish on your own time."


Again, I'm not saying don't put in the work to be in shape, but you don't have to hit your goal before hitting the school, and you could be holding yourself back if you do.

You are allowed to keep training and working to get in better shape after you've signed up for wrestling school. I started training when I was still 17. Do you think I was anywhere close to being in the exact shape I wanted to be in as a wrestler? Of course not. I was only 17.

But I haven't stopped progressing in my physiqe since. I've added more than 70 lbs. (mostly muscle, but not all of it, unfortunately), improved my aerobic and anaerobic endurance a ton, and on top of it all, I've got over 7 years worth of experience wrestling, which is, of all the things I've accomplished, the one I couldn't have done on my own.



There is nothing wrong with wanting to come into a wrestling school in the best shape you can (if, for nothing else, to keep from throwing up from the drills), but at the same time, don't let it hold you back from getting in there either. Nothing is going to get you in wrestling shape like wrestling. Nothing.

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

Insane Clown is absolutely right. I often read posts from people saying they intend to get in shape first. And all the time you spend getting in shape, is time you are not spending learning to wrestle. Its not like you'll start at a school and get put in shows immediately.

[Squizzy]

why dont you offer advice instead of just being a jackass to him?

How was what he said being a "jackass"? If anything, he was being a realist. Being a jackass to me, would have been telling him that he had everything it takes, and was going to make it no matter what. Dis was just speaking the truth, and apparently, a lot of people around here have a problem with that. God, the last thing we need around here is another Dangerous E.

:D:D

[Squizzy]

she is in better shape than you.....twiggy.....

This coming from the poster with no avatar.

[TheChamp316]

This coming from the poster with no avatar.

i dont have an avatar because no one wants to see my fatass....

[C-Squared]

i dont have an avatar because no one wants to see my fatass....

So don't throw stones...

[TheChamp316]

So don't throw stones...

i don't.....