Transdermal issues with family and people... LOOK

[MrOneEyedBoh]

I picked this off of another forum, and I was wondering if you guys think that this is legit? If so, how long of a wait should I wait until I come in contact with my Girlfriend/females? Sometimes my GF wears my undershirts to sleep in, and in this it says that it can still stay in clothes.. But that cannot be even after you wash them..

Discuss

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/114/1/282

[TTewell]

type out the link.

[MrOneEyedBoh]

hows that?

[Rodzilla]

Virilization in young children is uncommon and is produced by androgens, which may be from endogenous or exogenous sources. Virilization resulting from exogenous exposure is rare, with 1 previous case report from 19991 and a more recent report from 2003.2 Recently, the increased availability and use of commercial androgen products for cutaneous application has increased the risk of virilization in children through skin contact and passive absorption. We report our experience with 4 children who were virilized by contact with adults using topical androgen preparations.

yes you should wait..I forget how long, Par Deus had mentioned. What are you using transdermally?

[TTewell]

hows that?

works

[Androgen]

I picked this off of another forum, and I was wondering if you guys think that this is legit? If so, how long of a wait should I wait until I come in contact with my Girlfriend/females? Sometimes my GF wears my undershirts to sleep in, and in this it says that it can still stay in clothes.. But that cannot be even after you wash them..

Discuss

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/114/1/282

This is for androgens. Aren't you using 6-oxo transdermal? And it also says children, I'm hoping your gf is in the "children" age bracket :D (no pedo)

[Androgen]

yes you should wait..I forget how long, Par Deus had mentioned. What are you using transdermally?

There goes my plans to use transdermals in the future :D (serious)

[MrOneEyedBoh]

Yes I would be doing 6oxo transdermal, and No my GF is 21 like me lol.. ( deff no pedo )

so 6oxo is alright? Ill be applying it at 5am before work ( shes sleeping still ) and 5pm ( shes just getting home )

If I could get a time frame on the wait before contact, that would be cool.

[joakman]

Interesting stuff. I would imagine 6-OXO wouldn't have that affect, but who knows.

[MrOneEyedBoh]

I would think that 6oxo could lower a womens estrogen a bit but i duno. prolly not enough tho.

[Stonecoldtruth]

I picked this off of another forum, and I was wondering if you guys think that this is legit? If so, how long of a wait should I wait until I come in contact with my Girlfriend/females? Sometimes my GF wears my undershirts to sleep in, and in this it says that it can still stay in clothes.. But that cannot be even after you wash them..

Discuss

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/114/1/282

Maybe it is just me, but if you are using topical androgens it would SEEM to be common sense that you should avoid direct contact with children or ANYONE for that matter. However, the previous study Rolf referenced said that transference was improbable. So I think that there may be a coorelation between the two, but not neccesarily a causation. That study can be seen in full here:

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=13654802

Now, another thought is that IF the delivery agent (ie alcohol vehicle or transdermal delivery system) was still not completely rubbed in/dried up/etc there would probably be a higher risk.

To the OP, for your issue I would wait at least a couple hours personally. :D

SCT

[MrOneEyedBoh]

Well what if your GF sleeps with you sometimes. It's hard to not get contact... I know that you put in usually under your shirt, but it could still soak thru ( but again has to be dried first )

I dont know, yeah its common sense but there is always room for human error..

[Stonecoldtruth]

Well what if your GF sleeps with you sometimes. It's hard to not get contact... I know that you put in usually under your shirt, but it could still soak thru ( but again has to be dried first )

I dont know, yeah its common sense but there is always room for human error..

If the transdermal carrier is dried/rubbed in completely, the risk of any real negative effects would obviously be lessened. However, since I'm not a doctor I cannot advise you fully. :P I would love to see Uhockey or Dinoiis view on this. I know Par would have a definitive answer too.

[gjohnson5]

If you read the references , this study is specifically about the use of androgel or topical testosterone
Not 6oxo

[MrOneEyedBoh]

I realize that but anything is possible. I no where stated in the original message that this was for 6oxo or that I was using 6oxo and I wanted to know. Androgen pointed it out that I was running transdermal 6oxo and I said yes I was.

[Stonecoldtruth]

If you read the references , this study is specifically about the use of androgel or topical testosterone
Not 6oxo

And that doesn't ring a bell to you that if androgel and topical T can be transferred that other things may not work in the same way? An effective topical delivery system can push many things in. :P

[iForce Dave]

i usually just pour my transdermal formestane all over myself and then wrestle unclothed with my girlfriend until her voice deepens and I see hairs on her chin.

:p

[Stonecoldtruth]

i usually just pour my transdermal formestane all over myself and then wrestle unclothed with my girlfriend until her voice deepens and I see hairs on her chin.

:p

I heard that with your GF that doens't take long... :D

[iForce Dave]

I heard that with your GF that doens't take long... :D

we do it on a daily basis so she is adapting :D

[Stonecoldtruth]

we do it on a daily basis so she is adapting :D

She getting swole too? Better make sure you give her Cell Tech for PCT.. </hijack>

[gjohnson5]

And that doesn't ring a bell to you that if androgel and topical T can be transferred that other things may not work in the same way? An effective topical delivery system can push many things in. :P

The "other things" are not synthetic testosterone derivatives..
We're comparing apples and oranges

6-oxo is not sythetic testosterone

[iForce Dave]

She getting swole too? Better make sure you give her Cell Tech for PCT.. </hijack>

[hijack]

dont worry, shes on aplodan hardcore


[ok serious /hijack]

[gjohnson5]

i usually just pour my transdermal formestane all over myself and then wrestle unclothed with my girlfriend until her voice deepens and I see hairs on her chin.

:p

LOLOLOL

[java568]

Yes I would be doing 6oxo transdermal, and No my GF is 21 like me lol.. ( deff no pedo ).

*cough* *cough*