Best Overall Intra-Workout Supplement?

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If you had to pick just ONE intra-workout product to take DURING YOUR WORKOUT, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take intra-workout products, if you should take intra-workout products, or why some intra-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite intra-workout product and give your detailed reason.)

[DaveGabe24]

Here's two great threads that portray quite nicely how everyone feels about IntrAbolic...mind you the polls in the first thread got a little out of hand (they're private, so people tend to exploit)..but the posts are great reads.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109105271

Here, with public polls, you can see how the voting changed.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6143631


We are also offering samples!!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109351381

[Urban Monk]

I would pick AEN's Intrabolic as the premier supplement in the Intra-workout category. Simply put, no other products comes close in terms of formulation or quality of ingredients. When priced out for the amount of amino acids per serving, it is actually a very reasonable product with an incredible profile.

There is also a tremendous scientific backing for the product in terms of using study suggested optimal doses of ingredients to create the product. I am also reassured that AEN utilizes cGMP facilities to assure us that what is on the label is in the product.

I also believe it to be a very versatile product in terms of use. It can be utilized for both cardio and weightlifting amongst other applications. It can also be stacked w/ additional synergistic ingredients or paired with effective carbohydrate supplementation to truly give a powerful addition to one's supplementation.

[Free Weight Friedel]

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I used IntrAbolic for the first time tonight, and below are my initial impressions of this product:


SMELL

Not bad at all. I could smell that apple flavoring.


MIXABILITY

I mixed it in 20 ozs cold water. I did not mix it with any other supplement.

IntrAbolic is kind of interesting in this aspect. You don't have to violently shake it like some powders. I just flipped my container back-n-forth a couple of times, set it down on the counter, waited 5 minutes, and WALLA!!!

The nice thing about IntrAbolic is that it stays mixed. You don't have to keep shaking the container to mix it.

TASTE

:eek:

:D

Wow, what an after taste!!! But we don't take supps for the taste.:p

I can't wait to taste the New & Improved flavoring!!!!

PERFORMANCE

I did feel some tingling in my face due to the Beta Alanine. I have used Core ABC (most of the time 1 scoop (2.5 g), but sometimes 2 scoops) and I never felt any tingling from that product. The tingling really didn't bother me at all, other than it was present.

Also, I felt different during my workout. I don't know how to describe it other than that.


I am really interested in seeing how IntrAbolic performs over the duration of this log. I have read all the feedback from other logs and IntrAbolic is quite interesting.









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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ae/intrabolic.html


FAQ's

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5026393

Nothing has really changed in the formula, just an improved flavor, so I am not going to review anything else about it right now, except for the taste.


Taste Compared to Old Formula: Wow, what a difference from the original, which I could not drink by itself. To me, this has the taste of a Green Apple where the original was bad for me!!!

I could actually sit on my Deck and enjoy this improved flavor as a refreshing drink!!!

Props to AEN for this improved flavoring because you have a Winner!!!









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http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ae/intrabolic.html


FAQ's

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5026393

I received 2 samples of AEN's IntrAbolic Citrus to taste test.

This flavor is very good and refreshing! The Citrus smell is very good. It mixes very well and there really was no after taste at all.

It's going to be a tough choice between the Citrus & Fresh Green Apple becasue they are both outstanding!!!



There is no comparison. IntrAbolic is hands down, the Best Intra-Workout supplement!!! And you can take that to the bank!!;)

[Halosoccer24]

Intrabolic for me too, just change the name of the thread to "Intrabolic Reviews". JK

Purple Wraath and First Order are also good for Intraworkout.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

FREE purple wraath samples here: (give it a try before you buy, bb.com also has free ones to add to your cart)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107554191&highlight=wraath


incredible value at 90 servings per container :)

lots of amazing feedback (just scratching the surface):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=108218491&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109366221&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=108747331&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=108679411
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=108054701&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107468871&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=106634561&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7135351&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6770951&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4557413&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1694161&highlight=wraath
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3903493

just some quick feedback I found, this is part of thousands of quotes I could post up :)



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Getting well along in my second large tub of Purple Wraath and I decided it was time for a review.

I remember back to my first experience, free sample from bb.com. I mixed it up and drank it down all before lifting =P Kind of defeated the purpose... Later through research I better realize what the product really was. So I got a tub of the grape. I remember not enjoying it to much at first, but it quickly grew on me to the point where I actually craved when I was not lifting. Then one day I decided to add ice, bad idea. Now I drink the PW way to fast. Ok, it was a good idea...Purple Wraath was one of the piece of product I used during some of my best gains so it quickly became a staple after that. I saw that they were making a lemonade flavor so I picked that up as soon as it was available, by then I was a "Cl fan boy" =P. Enjoyed it a lot even from the first taste.

There was a time near the last 1/4th of the grape tub I dropped all supplements except for whey, creatine, EFA, and multi to get back to the basics for a little over 2 weeks. That is when I realized how much PW was really helping. Those were some short lifting days....

Price It seems like it is up there but if you break it down it is not bad at all. Obviously it would be a value if it is from CL. If you are considering PW and lift at very high intensity, but the price seems to be an issue get a half tub to test.

Taste Most people including I did not like it as much at first, now I love it. Need a little time to get used to it. Making it cold helps too.

Mixing Pour slow and stir as you go, then stir hardcore, and let it sit a bit. Then stir some more and I'm good to go.

Effectiveness I'm pretty sure that second paragraph constitutes the effectiveness I felt while using, or the lack of when not using.

Thought about doing a price breakdown for myself and other like the OT thing I did, but I'm tired and that takes a little while so I'm going to watch tv...



Purple Wraath FTW!!



Right i've got my free Purple wraath and Golden Finish samples with my Animal Flex order and since yesterday was back day decided to try out the Purple sample. keep in mind that i'm usin' Extend at the moment and i thought it was a good way of comparin' them. well i started sippin' it just before my workout and i notice the TASTE: very nice , not too sweet and no aftertaste and it mixed wery well in my shaker, no clumps at all. the workout now: decided to do a giant set with barbell rows, lat pulldowns, cable rows, upright rows and rope pulldowns.i was goin' for 2 giant set, ended up doin' 4 and increasin' weight each time....wow! then cause i was still feelin' good i did 5 sets of dumbell shrugs and 5 sets of deadlifts than i hit the stairmaster for 30m. all i can say i'm impressed to say the least: great energy-endurance, felt like i could lift forever and good tastin' drink too (lemonade ).it was my first time with beta-alanine but didn't feel the tingles, only a light flushin' on my face at the end of my cardio. Purple wraath could very well become a staple for me and i'll surely get some when i finish Extend ( which by the way i like too ). thanks Controlled Labs!




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In general I have used Yellow Neuphoria, Golden Finish, Purple Wraath, Green Mag, White Flood, Orange Triad....and every single one of they products has met and exceeded all expectations...

Purple Wraath will come with me for my eating contests to keep me hydrated and awake before my eating contests :)

I'm honestly a confident "supplementer" when I use Controlled Labs products and will continue to use their products for years to come...

Next to try is definetly REDuction (was supposed to get this to log, but it never came :()...Green Buldge, White Blood will also be in the works...

Anyways keep up the solid work CL, I gotta go finish drinkin' my GFH (hope that serving issue gets solved ;))



I can't believe I ever stopped using the product. I traded the rest of my Xtend for my roomates Wraath (I reccommended it to him). So I used it today before my back day and the endurance I had was in no way a placebo effect. The first I used I thought it was all placebo. I had to pull myself out of the gym! Great product CL! I will definitely be using this for my upcoming keto diet as well.


Well, guys (and girls)... I'm officially hooked on this stuff (Could be good or bad thing, depending on how you look at it)... I've been using PW for about 8 weeks now (Great value by the way since I'm still on my first tub and have a good few weeks left). I use about three scoops mixed with a third of a gallon of water intra-workout. I've definitely upped my lifting goals during the last three months and have been FOCUSED.

Last night I was in a rush and figured I could just mix a quick pre-workout drink and get in there, so I mix some White Flood (Two 1/2 scoops) and get in the gym. I complete about three working sets of standing overhead BB presses and I'm feeling pretty good, then I get to my next movement for the night, DB side laterals and after the first two sets I hit a speed bump. I hadn't felt like that for what seems like forever, it wasn't bad enough to quit but it was VERY noticeable. As I go through the rest of my shoulders routine I noticed a lack of focus and definitely wasn't as "INTO IT" as I usually am.

Either way I'd like to thank Controlled Labs for creating a product that has been tested and proven as a very helpful tool in my lifting regimen.

"I won't leave home without it"

For those of you that are still on the fence about trying an "Intra Workout" drink, I recommend investing the 45 or so dollars it costs for this supplement. It will last you AT LEAST two months, if not more, and you will notice an improvement on endurance and focus. It doesn't give you the jitters or STIMulated but over time will increase your productivity in the gym

Good luck and be safe!


Holy ****. My freind bought sum over the weekend and I gave it a go yesterday night.

After only ten minutes of sipping this miracle sup I felt a jolt of 'tingly electricity' run through my body. I felt like punching-on at the gym.

^^^since I don't actually own the container I would like to know how long a bottle will last if I work out 4 times a week. I would like to buy sum for myslef. good **** CL.


Background:

I really liked the idea of using a supplement during the workout, which was how I took SizeOn during the month I was using it. I liked it so much, I then switched to Universal Nutrition Animal Nitro G, which helped somewhat. I had tried a sample of Purple Wraath earlier, but since my digestive system was in a state of nuclear disorder from the Superdump 250, the results were noticably skewed. I also took it pre-workout, which was, in my opinion, totally the wrong way to do it. I also saw so much verbiage on PW that I felt I should give it another shot and bought a tub. I started it as an active part of my workouts on January 11, 2007.

Review: First of all, let me state this up front. Purple Wraath not only does not taste good, it will NEVER taste good. It will taste less bad or more tolerable if you mix in a concentration of 1 + 3/4 scooops to 20 oz. of water. This is the concentration in which I use it during my workouts. My brother somehow enjoys the taste of this, so it may depend on personal preference, but I will tell you that "Juicy Grape" is a definite misnomer.

Next, again, up front, this does not and never will mix well. The best way I have found with this is to put in the dry 20 oz. bottle, put water in on top of it, put the cap back on the bottle, shake vigorously, throw into workout bag with another straight 20 oz. bottle of straight water and drive to gym. I usually shake and have a swig before hitting warm-ups, then walk back to the locker room between every exercise and shake and stir until it is dissolved, a process which generally takes 30 minutes. I don't mind the grittiness during the workout, as I use this not because of either the nature of how well it dissolves or tastes, but how well it works.

How well it works is immediately apparent. While I got nothing out of it from the first sample, which I took pre-workout, taking this during the workout really helped the workout a great deal, particularly in endurance levels. It did not (and probably will not) heighten energy, but it enables various body parts to be worn down much less slowly, allowing you to work and hit them much harder.

I also like the formula a great deal. EAAs + beta alanine, unbeatable, in my opinion, for during workout usage. Admittedly, I have used this strictly for lifting, but if I can figure out a good way to use this during cardio, I may incorporate it there, also. I may also try it pre-cardio workout, to see how that does.

Verdict:

This is a staple for me and it's hard to think of a better endorsement than that. I think the combination of EAAs and beta alanine is a definite winner and this product will not be leaving my "normal/regular" list probably ever, unless Controlled Labs reformulates it and makes it junk, ala the VPX Redline RTDs.

[simpledude]

Another vote for Intrabolic

[ChuteBoxeFC]

Intrabolic

[rudyky08]

Intrabolic hands down.

Best whey hydro on the market, ffEAA's, full dose of beta alanine and electrolytes.

[Alphy]

Hmmm....tough one....












.....oh wait, no its not. AEN INTRABOLIC.

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

I would pick AEN's Intrabolic as the premier supplement in the Intra-workout category. Simply put, no other products comes close in terms of formulation or quality of ingredients. When priced out for the amount of amino acids per serving, it is actually a very reasonable product with an incredible profile.

There is also a tremendous scientific backing for the product in terms of using study suggested optimal doses of ingredients to create the product. I am also reassured that AEN utilizes cGMP facilities to assure us that what is on the label is in the product.

I also believe it to be a very versatile product in terms of use. It can be utilized for both cardio and weightlifting amongst other applications. It can also be stacked w/ additional synergistic ingredients or paired with effective carbohydrate supplementation to truly give a powerful addition to one's supplementation.


There is no comparison. IntrAbolic is hands down, the Best Intra-Workout supplement!!! And you can take that to the bank!!;)


Intrabolic for me too, just change the name of the thread to "Intrabolic Reviews". JK

Purple Wraath and First Order are also good for Intraworkout.


Another vote for Intrabolic


Intrabolic


Intrabolic hands down.

Best whey hydro on the market, ffEAA's, full dose of beta alanine and electrolytes.

Good to see, IntrAbolic's support is growing. There is NOTHING like it in the industry.




We are offering FREE samples of IntrAbolic here:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109351381

Reviews: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1013856&page=6&highlight=athletic+edge+nutrition

IntrAbolic FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=85780893#post85780893




Some of OUR published Intra-Workout, Nutrient Timing and beta-alanine articles below:

Our Articles/Reviews:

Intra-workout Article in Muscular Development (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6001131)

Nutrient Timing Article in Muscular Development (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5279143)

PreWo article and NEW beta-alanine article in Muscular Development (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3937243)

PreWO part two article (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4485743)



IntraXCell sport supplement product review in Muscular Development (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1006794)

Beta-alanine article- science meets real world results, in Muscular Development (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2524381)

Beta-Alanine compared to creatine (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4819303)

Our beta-alanine article on bb.com (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beta_alanine.htm)

[~~Aries~~]

My vote would definitely goes towards AEN's IntrAbolic. Not only do I think the product is of the highest quality, but it's also the most complete. I like the lack of stims such as caffeine as all to often people become dependent on them to make it through their day and their workouts. Eventually you become too tolerant and workouts can suffer. Not with IntrAbolic. From almost Day 1 to as long as you want to use it, Intrabolic keeps on working and continues to get better and better. I've used it and can honestly say it helped me not only with strength, but endurance as well. I continued to make weekly progress in both strength increases and endurance. If not for an injury I can only imagine how far I would have gotten. Add this with my other favorite, IntraXcell, and you've found the holy grail of intraworkout supplements. AEN is a top notch company with top notch products and I would highly suggest giving them a try.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

for an aggregation of feedback, the master thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=592492&highlight=wraath+awesome

some more very recent feedback:


I'm not finished wit this stack BUT I had used WF and Green Mag before and I want to start reviewing supps I've tried

This is for the White Flood (electric lemonade), Purple Wraath (juicy grape and Green Magnitude (Sour Green Apple) (BIG TUBS)

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Price: 9/10for all 3 its a price you can't beat. It's been over a month since I've started this stack and still the PW/GM tubs are over half full and the WF is slowly running out. The initial price is high, but the products last a lot longer than most supps. Doesn't get a 10/10 because the PW is still priced kind of high as a product on it's own.

Mixability:
WF/GM get 10/10 mixed together everything is fine, don't even really need a spoon to mix in a cup

PW 7/10 best to use with a shaker, really hard to mix it well enough with a spoon without having clumps (and they taste nasty)


Taste: 10/10 for GM/WF combo, first time i tried this stack and didn't mix them together (WF is likea 6/10 on it's own) but together its delicious

8/10 for PW, i don't crave the flavor everytime i go to the gym, but its just fine to sip and last througout my workout (don't have to chug it)

Effects:
WF: GREAT pump, i use 2 scoops usually, but when used with other stims (T-booster or fat burner) i use 1-1.5 scoops. MANY times I have been tired and not really wanting to go to the gym but once i get the WF in me I'm ready to crush weight.

PW: it's probably going to be a staple for my stacks for now on, IF I CAN afford it. But yea the endurance I get with PW is amazing. I have never been "exhausted" leaving the gym and if you look at my logs I work my a$$ off. It's also AWESOME to use during sports training and I wish I had tried it earlier. And the tingling feeling is a sweet feeling (don't get it all the time, depends on when I ate last)

GM: awesome creatine product that isn't just creatine mono. I actually liked the results from Size-on better, however the price/serving of GM is unbeatable and that is why I use it


Would I recommend this stack to someone else? Yes and have done many times

hope this was what everyone was looking for in a review as it was my first one. will look into doing more in the future



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Controlled Labs Purple Wraath (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple.html)

After all the good reviews concerning Purple Wraath, I decided to give it a try and see what it could bring me. As of 19/03/08 I'm on half the 2lbs tub and I must say I'm pretty impressed with this product.

Taste: [9/10] - I'm not a big fan of grape flavored products but I must say that I really dig the taste of PW. Actually it is not bad at all, comparing to people who complained about it (might have been older version though). I think I have the v3. Make sure you give Lemonade a try (coming soon).

Mixability: [7/10] - 1 1/2 scoop in 20oz of water. Shake. Let it sit for 15 minutes in the fridge. Most particules disolved but still some white/black parts floating around or sitting at the bottom of the bottle. Not bothering me though.

Endurance: [8/10] - Seen a difference in training, wasn't that sore after a hard session. I must admit that the best was at doing cardio. I used to hate cardio but on PW, I did 45 minutes and in all honesty, could have go on again. Wasn't even tired!

Price: [10/10] - Very decent price. CL has pretty cheap products when you think of it, 50 bucks for 2lbs might last you about 3 months. Way to go!

Overall: [8.5/10] - I will definitely consider buying PW again after my first tub. Even bought one for my training partner and likes it too! After a few days, I started to get the tingling because of BA in my legs. A week later, it was mainly in my face. What makes it worse though is when I train early in the morning. The cold weather in Canada makes my face hitchy like crazy, but I can live with it! Hope this review helped some of you undecided folks on either giving it a try or not.



Soo i'm pretty stoked i've gotten my Purple Wraath and the last five days ive been on it is awesome!!

Mixability- 15/10 this mixes perfectly
Taste- bout a 9/10 it tastes awsome, i mix it with my Universal Storm and drink it during a cardio sesh and let me tell you if you could eat a rainbow that is what it would taste like!

Energy- It's sort of like a sustained energy while i take it, it pretty much puts the nuts and bolts back together when im working out.

Overall 10/10- I love this product! and I look forward to being a loyal customer of their other products!, I wanna try Green Mag :)

Well the other day I had just got in my sample of green mag, purple wraath, golden finish, and reduction from Controlled Labs. I have been wanting to try Purple Wraath especially for the longest time and have been in between picking up some PW or Xtend.... I've heard nothing but good comments about Purple Wraath and Green Magnitude, so I was pretty excited to try the stuff today.


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Green Magnitude Review (apple): Mixed the sample pack into a shaker cup filled with water 30 mins pre-workout. It mixed very well and when it came to the taste I must say that at first sip I found it very sweet, but than after I took a few more sips I started to like the flavor.

Purple Wraath Review (lemonade): Mixed the sample pack into a 2 litre jug of water that I bring to the gym. It mixed great, no issues regarding it mixing with water. I sipped it throughout my workout and must say that I REALLY like the taste of this! :D I could definitely see myself drinking it on OFF days as well as weight/cardio days.

My workout: Today I did Chest/Shoulders. First thing I'm going to say is that I had GREAT pumps!!!!!! I'm not sure what it was, maybe the Beta-Alanine, but the pumps I had were very good. I didn't get any tingles from the Beta-Alanine, maybe because I had it mixed with a 2 liter bottle of water. Energy/endurance was also great and I must say I was very pleased with this product. Although today I was at the gym a little longer than usual, sipping Purple Wraath throughout I feel gave me great energy to get through it.

I am currently finishing up my tub of SuperPump250 and SizeOn (both great products) and now am really thinking of going with the Controlled Labs Stack.

Overall I really liked both products and will most likely be picking up some Purple Wraath (lemonade flavor) in my order tommorow which I'll use on CARDIO and OFF days. The servings of Green Mag / Purple Wraath are great as well for the money.

Thanks Controlled Labs for the samples as well as making some solid products!




This is my first review thread, so recommendations and criticism will be accepted.


First up...
Purple Wraath!


This summer my two main goals were to make a lot of money and get in top physical shape for college. Training with a powerlifting routine three days a week (5x5) and also starting Mauy Thai twice a week, I needed a solid product to help with recovery, energy and focus. That's why I chose Purple Wraath. Excellent taste, mix ability, and best of all: the results. I love being able to take two scoops for an one hour session of Mauy Thai and then two hours later not being sore and then lifting. That's also why I chose to buy a second tub.

Mixability: 10/10
Taste: 10/10
Recovery: 10/10

overall: eleventy billion/30


Green Magnitude

Before ordering GM, I was using a cheap monohydrate creatine. It was very effective, but caused my stomach to become gaseous. I was fine with this at first, but my friends weren't. I bought GM and it has been a great supplement to my training and diet. Very solid product and I haven't been expelling nasty, smelling gas (excess that's because I'm still a human). :D

Taste: 10/10
Mix-ability: 9/10
Strength: 10/10

Overall: 29/30


White Flood

A more controversial product that I bought a few months ago. I don't take is on a schedule like I do with green magnitude or purple wraath, because I don't have a high tolerance. I will usually take 1 to 1.5 scoops and that triggers my "kill" mode. The energy is unparalleled, and even better: I get work done after the gym. I've probably cranked out two, 5 page papers while jacked on this. However, I cannot say how much of a "pump" I get while taking this before the gym compared to not consuming it before working out.

Taste: 10/10
Mixability: 8/10
Energy: 10/10
Pumps: N/A

Overall: 28/30

*An interesting note about white flood. Many people complain about GM causing stomach problems but I have never had any problems from GM. White is what cleans out my colon. Whenever I take WF in between meals, I always have to go to the toilet. Don't know why, but I thought I'd point this out.

Sample reviews to come later! GOTTA GO!


Since CL was so nice to send out a bunch of different free samples, I thought I'd take the time to review these two really quick.

Purple Wraath(Lemonade Flavored):
Let me start off with......Holy S***. I used this pre/during workout and I was able to bust out a few more reps than I normally do. The flavor was a lot better than I was expecting....kinda like a sour ish lemon. Also, I really like the tingling it gives me, kinda nice to know that it works right away haha.

GreenMAG:
I took this right after my workout (same day as Purple Wraath) along with the usual protein. It tasted pretty good, also somewhat sour but a nice apple flavor. I did not experience much an effect because it is creatine and what not. However, the next day I felt/looked a bit fuller in my chest and also DOMS was not as bad as it usually is.

Conclusion: I think that once I'm finished with my current stack, I am most likely going to get a tub of Purple Wraath and GreenMAG and see how that works out.

P.S- Thanks again CL for the free samples....keep making good products!!!

[EMISGOD]

In my view, it really depends on what type of workout. If it is a Cardio workout, Purple Wraath kicks the **** out of everything out there, at least that I've tried so far. If it is a Lifting workout, IntrAbolic is so far ahead of everything else, they might as well call it the Best Overall IntrAbolic Supplement and then get everyone to fight over which flavor is best...

[DoMiNiKiNG947]

My vote is for IntrAbolic. Felt big difference while working out with it than without it. I see that this thread is going to turn into an IntrAbolic vs. Purple Wraath popularity thread.

[Mickfootie]

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IntrAbolic by AEN is a winner :


Well where do i start with this one......
I knew this product was going to be good as i have had good results from the IntraXcell and the Steel Edge but i didn't think it was going to be as good as it is.

To start with however the taste to me was a little bitter and not too good. I experimented a little with different amounts of water and scoop sizes and once i got this to my liking i really started to enjoy the flavour and now it is very refreshing through the workouts.

Throughout the couple of months of using the IntrAbolic my workouts have improved each and everytime and started to hit PB again. My stamina, endurance and overall strength increased quite dramatically over this time too. My Recovery times decreased and so felt as though i could hit the gym harder everytime.
I did however feel that the DOM's felt deeper within the muscle after the workouts and put this down to the IntrAbolic allowing me to push my self more throughout the workouts and so work the muscles harder. This been said however even though they felt deeper and a little more sore they only felt like this for the same length of time as i was before using the IntrAbolic, So it must have helped with recovery to get me back to the same level even though the DOM's where deeper.

I initialy used this for resistance training only but then incorporated it into my Cardio regime and my endurance improved quite dramatically. I started doing something called Commando Cardio twice a week also and used the IntrAbolic for this and it brought my times down drastically each time i did it until i got to the point i was doing the session within 35 mins (from a start time of 50 mins within only a few weeks) with a recommended time of 40 mins.

My overall view of the IntrAbolic is Excellent and the best Intra workout supplement i have used so far. It is now part of the Family and will be for a long time i'm sure.

This got a BIG 10/10 from me and still feel there is nothing out there at the moment to match it.

[Progressive8]

If you have a dairy allergy like me, or you are a vegan, then i think Core ABC is your best option behind Intrabolic. Even if you arent they are very comprable.

You get 10 grams of BCAA's per serving in ABC versus 8 grams of EAA's in Intrabolic. This does not include the AA's you get from Intrabolic's 7 grams of protein however, and both ABC and Intrabolic have a full 5g of free form Leucine per serving. The one thing ABC definitly has the edge on though is the fact that it has 2.5 grams of citrulline malate per serving. CM is a solid supplement that has improved many of my workouts. I also don't like the Vit C and E in intrabolic because preliminary studies have shown C may decrease atheltic performance when taken around a workout. As far as the E I simply dont want anymore than is in my multi (30 IU so intrabolic would double it) as having too much supplemental E over time may be unhealthy. However the amounts of both C and E in Intrabolic are likely insignificant.

Finally of note:Intrabolic does boast slightly more BA per serving (3.2g versus 2.5g in ABC)and electrolytes, but ABC has 2.5 grams of free form glutamine per serving (a controversial supplement I know but one that seems to help me, although i wouldnt pay for it by itself as it has shown to be seemingly worthless in most studies).

So because of my allergy ABC is an easy choice, however if you don't have an allergy you really cant go wrong either way.

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

If you have a dairy allergy like me, or you are a vegan, then i think Core ABC is your best option behind Intrabolic. Even if you arent they are very comprable.

You get 10 grams of BCAA's per serving in ABC versus 8 grams of EAA's in Intrabolic. This does not include the AA's you get from Intrabolic's 7 grams of protein however, and both ABC and Intrabolic have a full 5g of free form Leucine per serving. The one thing ABC definitly has the edge on though is the fact that it has 2.5 grams of citrulline malate per serving. CM is a solid supplement that has improved many of my workouts. I also don't like the Vit C and E in intrabolic because preliminary studies have shown C may decrease atheltic performance when taken around a workout. As far as the E I simply dont want anymore than is in my multi (30 IU so intrabolic would double it) as having too much supplemental E over time may be unhealthy. However the amounts of both C and E in Intrabolic are likely insignificant.

Finally of note:Intrabolic does boast slightly more BA per serving (3.2g versus 2.5g in ABC)and electrolytes, but ABC has 2.5 grams of free form glutamine per serving (a controversial supplement I know but one that seems to help me, although i wouldnt pay for it by itself as it has shown to be seemingly worthless in most studies).

So because of my allergy ABC is an easy choice, however if you don't have an allergy you really cant go wrong either way.

Solid feedback and well thought out post. But remember, your body needs ALL the essential amino acids to build muscle, NOT just the bcaa's. IntrAbolic contains ALL the EAA's from the whey protein hydrolysate, plus the additional 8grams of free-form amino -acids, again including ALL the EAA, except tryptophan, which is in the whey protein hydrolysate. ONE serving of IntrAbolic contains 15grams of amino-acids, including all the EAA's. :)

Additionally,the short chain peptides(di-and tripeptides) that make up 70-80% of the the custom whey protein hydrolysate we use, are absorbed even faster than free-form amino acids, due to their gut transport system having a greater capacity than the free-form amino-acids transporters. Also, very interestingly, recent research has shown, that peptides, can actually increase the uptake of free-form amino-acids, making the combo the optimal choice for both speed of absorption and practicality, both of which you want DURING your workout. Yes, just another aspect of IntrAbolic, that separates it from ANY other, "somewhat' comparable formula and I use the the term somewhat, very loosely.

The research you allude to regarding AO's, is megadosing single AO's, i.e Vit C and is nothing like they are being used here, or relevant to IntrAbolic's formula. At this point, I think most of us know, it's not good to mega-dose single antioxidants regardless.

Regarding Citrulline malate, see my below previous comments.





Originally Posted by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION
From an old post of mine


The evidence for CM on exercise performance with humans, from a research standpoint, is weak at best. There are two human performance studies, with the main study cited done back in 2002. When you look at this study closely, you will see they were testing finger flexions

For the internet, keyboard warrior,looking to increase their typing endurance, this study is quite relevant and could be very useful But for the typical gym rat, likely, not so much, atleast I hope.

The other study, showed improvement on aerobic performance on one test.

Now, I'm not saying CM is useless by any means, I would just like to see even ONE human performance study like we see with creatine, Beta-alanine, caffeine ect before we would base a product around it.

I know the common recommendation on bb.com is to say, take CM with beta-alanine, as they are good together. But I think if alot of these same people actually looked at CM's research and realized how weak it was, they may not hold CM in such high regard and be so fast to automatically recommend it when ever someone says they are using BA. It CERTAINLY isn't in the same league as creatine or beta-alanine at this point. Obviously the recent trend for many sup companies, is to throw CM in with BA. From a marketing standpoint it's likely a good idea, but from an efficacious standpoint, who knows at this point.

The core of our products are designed around ingredients that are strongly supported by research and shown to be effective in increasing performance. You wont see us jumping all over the most recent trendy ingredients, so we can have it on our label. So, at this point, until we see stronger research on CM, we wont likely be using it anytime soon.

Having said all that, atleast on bb.com, the anecdotal feedback on CM is pretty good and in NO way do I discredit this type of feedback. But, we still need more than anecdotal feedback to base a product around an ingredient, but it can certainly be used as an adjunct ingredient.

Lastly due to they whey protein hyrdolysate we use, being extensively hydrolyzed, 70-80% di-and tripeptides, it's largely considered hypoallergenic, due to the microfractions of whey that cause allergies being broken down, into short chain di-and tripeptides. Actually extensively hydrolyzed whey is often used in infant formula's for children that have milk allergies.

[GAMEOVER-]

Holy spam. lol


Originally Posted by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION
From an old post of mine


The evidence for CM on exercise performance with humans, from a research standpoint, is weak at best. There are two human performance studies, with the main study cited done back in 2002. When you look at this study closely, you will see they were testing finger flexions

For the internet, keyboard warrior,looking to increase their typing endurance, this study is quite relevant and could be very useful But for the typical gym rat, likely, not so much, atleast I hope.

The other study, showed improvement on aerobic performance on one test.

Now, I'm not saying CM is useless by any means, I would just like to see even ONE human performance study like we see with creatine, Beta-alanine, caffeine ect before we would base a product around it.

CM is Creatine Monohydrate, no?

[SHOWTIME]

Holy spam. lol



CM is Creatine Monohydrate, no?

NO

In that quote CM is Citrulline Malate

as you can see by the last part of that quote, he is NOT saying anything against creatine mono, also if you read his whole post you would see the sentence right before the quote you took from his post says "
Regarding Citrulline malate, see my below previous comments.
"


Now, I'm not saying CM is useless by any means, I would just like to see even ONE human performance study like we see with creatine, Beta-alanine, caffeine ect before we would base a product around it.

[jdiritto]

so many people bustingnuts over intrabolic.. craziness. ..

I enjoy purple wraath --- aminos get the job done intraworkout, and it is very cost affordable, especially since CL does sales routinely on most of their product line.

the earlier versions sucked horrible in taste, but i drank it anyway. and since they made newer ones, its pretty good in taste...i duno, thats not very important to me... it gives results assuming your training and nutrition are in align which is what matters most

intrabolic might be good and all, but at the price I wouldn't bother with it. i will hit up the free samples though, just because I always do whenever possible. wait, i just checked the link, its not really a free sample, you want me to write a review and all that..so its not really totally 100% free (time = money, you want a review, give an entire tub, not a sample.. besides, how do you get an effective review form 2 workouts? rediculous.. good marketing scheme tho fyi, lots of people at bb.com will gooble it up, i believe bodybuilders may be more naive that most athletes when it comes to PED's)


anywhooo, aminos intra workout all the way. purple wraath, xtend, bulk amino powder, whatever. its all relative, and cost efficient.

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Holy spam. lol



CM is Creatine Monohydrate, no?

NO, citrulline malate. Creatine, BY FAR is the most research supported ergogenic aid EVER. Damn man, read the whole thing I wrote, as I keep on touting creatine!:p

[CONTROLLED LABS]

so many people bustingnuts over intrabolic.. craziness. ..

I enjoy purple wraath --- aminos get the job done intraworkout, and it is very cost affordable, especially since CL does sales routinely on most of their product line.

the earlier versions sucked horrible in taste, but i drank it anyway. and since they made newer ones, its pretty good in taste...i duno, thats not very important to me... it gives results assuming your training and nutrition are in align which is what matters most

intrabolic might be good and all, but at the price I wouldn't bother with it. i will hit up the free samples though, just because I always do whenever possible. wait, i just checked the link, its not really a free sample, you want me to write a review and all that..so its not really totally 100% free (time = money, you want a review, give an entire tub, not a sample.. besides, how do you get an effective review form 2 workouts? rediculous.. good marketing scheme tho fyi, lots of people at bb.com will gooble it up, i believe bodybuilders may be more naive that most athletes when it comes to PED's)


anywhooo, aminos intra workout all the way. purple wraath, xtend, bulk amino powder, whatever. its all relative, and cost efficient.

well said and thanks for your feedback. no reason to spend more than twice as much (per gram of active ingredient) on some products when purple wraath is already amazing :)

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

so many people bustingnuts over intrabolic.. craziness. ..

I enjoy purple wraath --- aminos get the job done intraworkout, and it is very cost affordable, especially since CL does sales routinely on most of their product line.

the earlier versions sucked horrible in taste, but i drank it anyway. and since they made newer ones, its pretty good in taste...i duno, thats not very important to me... it gives results assuming your training and nutrition are in align which is what matters most

intrabolic might be good and all, but at the price I wouldn't bother with it. i will hit up the free samples though, just because I always do whenever possible. wait, i just checked the link, its not really a free sample, you want me to write a review and all that..so its not really totally 100% free (time = money, you want a review, give an entire tub, not a sample.. besides, how do you get an effective review form 2 workouts? rediculous.. good marketing scheme tho fyi, lots of people at bb.com will gooble it up, i believe bodybuilders may be more naive that most athletes when it comes to PED's)


anywhooo, aminos intra workout all the way. purple wraath, xtend, bulk amino powder, whatever. its all relative, and cost efficient.

IntrAbolic has 2-3x the amount of amino-acids per serving and is a different formula, that is why it costs more per serving.

LOL, those are FREE samples for anyone and just like any company on here offering free samples, we appreciate a review. No review is required though. If the few mins it takes to write a review costs you that much money, than you must be a busy/important man and likely don't even need a free sample.

So, are you suggesting, we shouldn't offer free samples, eventhough we got tons of requests for them since 2007?


Take a look at the most respected board members feedback on IntrAbolic(first couple threads), there's a reason why it has the reputation is does.

[Peter LeDrew]

so many people bustingnuts over intrabolic.. craziness. ..

I enjoy purple wraath --- aminos get the job done intraworkout, and it is very cost affordable, especially since CL does sales routinely on most of their product line.

the earlier versions sucked horrible in taste, but i drank it anyway. and since they made newer ones, its pretty good in taste...i duno, thats not very important to me... it gives results assuming your training and nutrition are in align which is what matters most

intrabolic might be good and all, but at the price I wouldn't bother with it. i will hit up the free samples though, just because I always do whenever possible. wait, i just checked the link, its not really a free sample, you want me to write a review and all that..so its not really totally 100% free (time = money, you want a review, give an entire tub, not a sample.. besides, how do you get an effective review form 2 workouts? rediculous.. good marketing scheme tho fyi, lots of people at bb.com will gooble it up, i believe bodybuilders may be more naive that most athletes when it comes to PED's)


anywhooo, aminos intra workout all the way. purple wraath, xtend, bulk amino powder, whatever. its all relative, and cost efficient.


good luck with your career... with post as ignorant as these, you will need it.

you are wrong in so many ways with what you say... AEN has given out a ridiculous amount of tubs for people to review already and given the quality and cost of IntrAbolic a sample is well worth the quick few minutes to write a review unless you are keyboard illiterate.

sorry, but posts like yours are simply unintelligent and ingnorant to reality.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

IntrAbolic has 2-3x the amount of amino-acids per serving and is a different formula, that is why it costs more per serving.


simply not true, but since you brought it up, here is the comparison:


intrabolic
aminos = 160 grams
protein = 140 grams
ba = 64 grams

36 dollars per 20 servings = 9.9 cents per gram of actives


purple wraath
aminos = 630 grams
ba+cm+goodies = 243 grams

51 dollars per 90 servings = 5.8 cents per gram of actives


thus making intrabolic 71% more expensive than purple wraath :)

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

simply not true, but since you brought it up, here is the comparison:


intrabolic
aminos = 160 grams
protein = 140 grams
ba = 64 grams

36 dollars per 20 servings = 9.9 cents per gram of actives


purple wraath
aminos = 630 grams
ba+cm+goodies = 243 grams

51 dollars per 90 servings = 5.8 cents per gram of actives


thus making intrabolic 71% more expensive than purple wraath :)

I wasn't being specific to your product actually, but yes, your price comparison is fine.


IntrAbolic is 4 CENTS more per gram of active and you are getting a FULL spectrum of ALL the essential amino-acids needed to build muscle, you are getting a custom over 30% hydrolyzed whey protein, which was more expensive for us than free-form amino-acids. You get a KNOWN amount of leucine per serving[5g] and you get a KNOWN amount of beta-alanine per serving {3.2g}

To the consumer, ask yourself is that is worth 4cents more per gram of active? To some it is, to some perhaps it isn't.

Regardless, IntrAbolic offers exceptional value for what is contains. :)

[Elliptical Envy]

LOL @ this thread

[kimlin85]

ive only tried xtend and a free sample of purple wrath. you can't tell much from a sample, and i didn't feel any differently taking xtend. it tasted nice tho.

[pu12en12g]

For what it's worth, Purple WRAATH is the #1 endurance product on BB.COM and has been for some time.

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

One word: Science.

When I first got into intraworkout supplementation I was drawn in by the BCAA crowd. After receiving litte to no benefits from a long time on BCAA, the EAA trend began. I felt EAA we're better (and had positive scientific validity) but I still did not get the benefits that we're touted by the either the BCAA or EAA supporters. Enter Intrabolic which has the highest grade of WPH, ffEAA with a high dose of leucine AND full spectrum electrolytes. I have been a fan of WPH for a while but never used one with such a high degree of di and tripeptides. I used higher doses of leucine with good success and I like how the ffEAA blend has emphasized the leucine as the key ingredient. After reading through the formula the electrolyte blend stood out because it has more than just sodium and potassium.

I chose IA over other amino products for many reasons. The quality WPH, adequate dosing of beta-alanine, and the full spectrum electrolytes to name a few. No other product has high quality WPH, as high a dose of beta-alanine, and none has a full spectrum of electrolytes.

One of the key reasons why I feel Intrabolic is better than any other amino formula on the market:

PEPT1-mediated uptake of dipeptides enhances the intestinal absorption of amino acids via transport system b0,+. Wenzel, Uwe; Meissner, Barbara; Doring, Frank; Daniel, Hannelore. Institute of Nutritional Sciences, Molecular Nutrition Unit, Technical University of Munich, Freising-Weihenstephan, Germany. Journal of Cellular Physiology (2001), 186(2), 251-259. Publisher: Wiley-Liss, Inc., CODEN: JCLLAX ISSN: 0021-9541. Journal written in English. CAN 134:176091 AN 2001:40673 CAPLUS

Abstract

Free amino acids and short chain peptides are the main digestion products of dietary proteins in the small intestine. Whether there is a direct interference in transport of both groups of degrdn. products is not known. We used human intestinal Caco-2 cells to investigate whether the absorption of dipeptides by the peptide transporter PEPT1 alters the apical uptake of free cationic and neutral amino acids. Influx of L-[3H]Arg into Caco-2 cells was Na+-independent and mediated mainly by the b0,+ system recognizing both cationic and neutral amino acids. Preincubation of cells with 10 mM of selected neutral, mono- or dicationic dipeptides increased the influx of L-Arg up to fourfold. Preloading with equiv. concns. of the corresponding free amino acids also increased L-Arg influx but dipeptides always proved to be more efficient. The obsd. trans-stimulation was found to be specific for cationic amino acids since transport of L-[3H]Ala remained unaffected. We here demonstrate for the first time a direct interplay in amino acid and peptide transport in intestinal cells that may selectively alter the kinetics of amino acid absorption.

When is all said and done, it is the science that speaks for IA and the people who appreciate the research can see how terrific this product is. The results I get from using IA are what was promised by previous amino formulas that did not deliver. AEN is all about the science the results of research-backed supplements is seen in the tremendous feedback given about their entire product line.

This post always impressed me. This guys gets the formula, gets the science and puts it into easy to understand language without the usual fanboy hype.

Rudy is now a Pharm. D., he certainly knows his stuff. :)

[Mickfootie]

And all this my friends is why it is in the Supplement WARS Section :D

I think the Admin wanted feedback from people generally and not a battle. :D
Everyone will view different products in many different ways and none are wrong if what works for them.
However i do not take sides and i love both CL and AEN products so much so that i always have each of their products within my cupboard.
I have used quite a few products including the PW and IA and did honestly find the IA to be far better than the PW at resistance work, i did also use the IA for Cardio to compare to PW and in that aspect the IA worked very well indeed but the PW does just take the edge for Cardio sessions (but not by much)
As for pricings of products the PW is great value for money and always will be and works no doubt about it. The IA is a little more per serving but it has also more expensive ingredients and at dosages per serving that very few others have.
I re-state i am not siding or putting down any product as i do still use both and do still get excellent results from either but the reason i went for the IA in this thread is that it really did knock me off my feet with how good it really was.
Yours Faithfully

Mick. :)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

To the consumer, ask yourself is that is worth 4cents more per gram of active? To some it is, to some perhaps it isn't.

Regardless, IntrAbolic offers exceptional value for what is contains. :)
ok, to put this in easier to understand mathematical terms, as when talking about cents its hard to visualize true costs. you need to purchase 2.4 tubs of intrabolic to equal the amount of actives in one tub of purple wraath. now to purchase one tub of purple wraath is 51 dollars, to purchase 2.4 tubs of intrabolic is $86.40, that makes intrabolic $35.40 more expensive ($35.40 is 70% of the cost of purple wraath) for the same amount of actives as purple wraath :) (I am sure both are great formulas, but I am just correcting your previous post)

For what it's worth, Purple WRAATH is the #1 endurance product on BB.COM and has been for some time.
yup, for over a year it has been #1, for a good reason, it works like no other :)

And all this my friends is why it is in the Supplement WARS Section :D

I think the Admin wanted feedback from people generally and not a battle. :D
Everyone will view different products in many different ways and none are wrong if what works for them.
However i do not take sides and i love both CL and AEN products so much so that i always have each of their products within my cupboard.
I have used quite a few products including the PW and IA and did honestly find the IA to be far better than the PW at resistance work, i did also use the IA for Cardio to compare to PW and in that aspect the IA worked very well indeed but the PW does just take the edge for Cardio sessions (but not by much)
As for pricings of products the PW is great value for money and always will be and works no doubt about it. The IA is a little more per serving but it has also more expensive ingredients and at dosages per serving that very few others have.
I re-state i am not siding or putting down any product as i do still use both and do still get excellent results from either but the reason i went for the IA in this thread is that it really did knock me off my feet with how good it really was.
Yours Faithfully

Mick. :)
hi mick, thanks for your feedback :)

[jdiritto]

This forum is funny -- all the company reps get so mad and tee'd off over anyones comments that don't align with their own...

It would be ideal to not have company reps reply to threads like this; we all know intrabolic peoples are going to push their product and cl pushes cl..blahblahblah.. theres hundreds of threads showing that

I believe the administration wanted consumer feedback, not company reps promotiions.

and I would like to thank you for the wishes of luck with my career, but to be blunt, I don't need luck. I work hard, and survive to thrive/thrive to survive. Winners win, it's what they were born to do. I don't need luck from nobody, i go after what I want n get it.

Goodluck with your products! though I will surely never purchase them nor recommend them to anyone now. =)

[samsuperjew5]

controlled labs, when is the new product coming out?!?!?!!?!?

[Bloute]

In for Bro war !

[CONTROLLED LABS]

controlled labs, when is the new product coming out?!?!?!!?!?

a few more weeks, but not the right thread for this :D

[samsuperjew5]

is there one ?

[jdiritto]

good luck with your career... with post as ignorant as these, you will need it.

you are wrong in so many ways with what you say... AEN has given out a ridiculous amount of tubs for people to review already and given the quality and cost of IntrAbolic a sample is well worth the quick few minutes to write a review unless you are keyboard illiterate.

sorry, but posts like yours are simply unintelligent and ingnorant to reality.



What if I were keyboard illiterate? Would it make you feel good at the end of the day to know you insulted someone with a physical/mental disability?



Very professional post on your behalf, thank you for looking to belittle me for disagreeing with you on certain topics over an internet forum!

[rizzog466]

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[Progressive8]

Well i agree with alot of that, like i said in my original post the Vit C and E are likely in too small of an amount to make a differance one way or the other. I suppose I am curious as to why they were included though, as although it's extremely controversial at this point, some believe anti-oxidents may be counter productive to muscle growth if taken around an anerobic workout. See NOHYPE's thread about it here, again it's mostly speculation and stuff.

As to BCAA's versus EAA's versus complete proteins, according to a professor i had for a nutrition class, if you eat a complete protein within around 3 hours of using individual amino acids, the free-form AA's will not be wasted and will be properly utilized. Since i have a pre and post workout meal both containing meat, and use a post workout shake that has free form EAA's, i simply take BCAA's intra and have gotten great results.

As for the CM, i was curious as to what (if any) studies have been done on Malic Acid alone and perhaps even Citrulline alone. A doctor I went to once said i should take Malic acid to reduce fatigue a long time ago when i was recovering from Lyme Disease so im interested in that. Also I have tried many forms of Creatine, but the one i got the best results from (other than the creatine monohydrate CHEWS) was Tri-Creatine malate by far. So yea im wondering if it's the malic acid that has the real ergogenic potential here as opposed to the NEAA citrulline.

As far as the hypoallergenicness(lol) of WPH, i have never tried PURE WPH but all WPH products that i have tried (which usaully also contained WPI or WPC) still upset my stomach. The last thing i want during my workout is gut discomfort lol. Of course i hear you guys are offering samples of Intrabolic and i can think of no better purpose of a sample than to test tolerance. Since it's only seven grams and is WPH (is it 100% WPH btw or is it proprietary, or what?) i MIGHT be able to tolerate it.



Solid feedback and well thought out post. But remember, your body needs ALL the essential amino acids to build muscle, NOT just the bcaa's. IntrAbolic contains ALL the EAA's from the whey protein hydrolysate, plus the additional 8grams of free-form amino -acids, again including ALL the EAA, except tryptophan, which is in the whey protein hydrolysate. ONE serving of IntrAbolic contains 15grams of amino-acids, including all the EAA's. :)

Additionally,the short chain peptides(di-and tripeptides) that make up 70-80% of the the custom whey protein hydrolysate we use, are absorbed even faster than free-form amino acids, due to their gut transport system having a greater capacity than the free-form amino-acids transporters. Also, very interestingly, recent research has shown, that peptides, can actually increase the uptake of free-form amino-acids, making the combo the optimal choice for both speed of absorption and practicality, both of which you want DURING your workout. Yes, just another aspect of IntrAbolic, that separates it from ANY other, "somewhat' comparable formula and I use the the term somewhat, very loosely.

The research you allude to regarding AO's, is megadosing single AO's, i.e Vit C and is nothing like they are being used here, or relevant to IntrAbolic's formula. At this point, I think most of us know, it's not good to mega-dose single antioxidants regardless.

Regarding Citrulline malate, see my below previous comments.






Lastly due to they whey protein hyrdolysate we use, being extensively hydrolyzed, 70-80% di-and tripeptides, it's largely considered hypoallergenic, due to the microfractions of whey that cause allergies being broken down, into short chain di-and tripeptides. Actually extensively hydrolyzed whey is often used in infant formula's for children that have milk allergies.

[thehulk50]

well since i have been taking Purple Wraath during my workouts and White Flood preworkout, absolutely the best workouts i have had in a long long time. I just dont think with the amount of servings per tub, the price of it, and the formula PW has, that any intra-workout product comes close to Purple Wraath. Controlled Labs just dominates every company and looking to see how many bb.com awards they win this year, GO CL!

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Well i agree with alot of that, like i said in my original post the Vit C and E are likely in too small of an amount to make a differance one way or the other. I suppose I am curious as to why they were included though, as although it's extremely controversial at this point, some believe anti-oxidents may be counter productive to muscle growth if taken around an anerobic workout. See NOHYPE's thread about it here, again it's mostly speculation and stuff.

Again, nice post.

Well the AO topic isn't even remotely controversial in the research community, just with the good bro's here on bb.com. Understand, that just about everything you ingest around workouts has anti-oxidant effects, like.....wait for it.......... AMINO-ACIDS!! Beta-alanine, carnosine and many other things we take around workouts, also have antioxidant activity. Should we not take amino-acids around workouts becuase they have some antioxidant effects? My answer, would be a strong HELL NO. The whole argument is incredibly weak, overblown and taken out of context, by looking at research that Mega dosed single AO's or megadose NAC+C. Actually on the contrary, boosting our body's AO's capacity, has shown anti-fatigue effects, reduced muscle soreness and many of them protect and help stabilize NO. The list goes on and on.



As to BCAA's versus EAA's versus complete proteins, according to a professor i had for a nutrition class, if you eat a complete protein within around 3 hours of using individual amino acids, the free-form AA's will not be wasted and will be properly utilized. Since i have a pre and post workout meal both containing meat, and use a post workout shake that has free form EAA's, i simply take BCAA's intra and have gotten great results.

That is true, but there is quite a bit more to it than that. :) One of the ways we know protein synthesis is stimulated, is the concentration of amino-acids in EXTRACELLULAR fluid. Spiking amino-acids concentration, DURING workouts, when blood flow is highest, is a great thing for maximizing the anabolic response and increasing amino-acid uptake. Couple that with the fastest absorbed short chain peptides and ffAA's, you can really take advantage of this increased blood flow and cellular sensitivity. There's more on this topic, in our IntrAbolic FAQ thread.




As for the CM, i was curious as to what (if any) studies have been done on Malic Acid alone and perhaps even Citrulline alone. A doctor I went to once said i should take Malic acid to reduce fatigue a long time ago when i was recovering from Lyme Disease so im interested in that. Also I have tried many forms of Creatine, but the one i got the best results from (other than the creatine monohydrate CHEWS) was Tri-Creatine malate by far. So yea im wondering if it's the malic acid that has the real ergogenic potential here as opposed to the NEAA citrulline.

Yes, there is a aerobic study malate, in rats, that showed some promise. If anything, it's highly likely that IF there are any benefits from citrulline/malate, they are from the malate and they are aerobic in nature. I still see nothing wrong with citrulline/malate, it just doesn't have any solid supportive evidence.





As far as the hypoallergenicness(lol) of WPH, i have never tried PURE WPH but all WPH products that i have tried (which usually also contained WPI or WPC) still upset my stomach. The last thing i want during my workout is gut discomfort lol. Of course i hear you guys are offering samples of Intrabolic and i can think of no better purpose of a sample than to test tolerance. Since it's only seven grams and is WPH (is it 100% WPH btw or is it proprietary, or what?) i MIGHT be able to tolerate it.

See, if they have WPI or WPC they will have the alergenic fractions.

100% hydrolyzed, would mean it's all free-form amino acids and we just lost the benefit of the short chain di-and tripeptides. ;) Our over 30% hydrolyzed whey, will provide you with 70-80% di-and tripeptides, which is as high as I've ever seen, with another hydrolysate, Peptopro, have similar % of peptides.

Give a sample and try and see how you respond and NO, you do not have to write a review, lol :)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

well since i have been taking Purple Wraath during my workouts and White Flood preworkout, absolutely the best workouts i have had in a long long time. I just dont think with the amount of servings per tub, the price of it, and the formula PW has, that any intra-workout product comes close to Purple Wraath. Controlled Labs just dominates every company and looking to see how many bb.com awards they win this year, GO CL!

wow, thanks for the great feedback and your support. keep us posted on your progress as feedback is very important to us and we are here to answer any questions that may arise during your journey :)

[jpetitclerc]

I never tried Intrabolic but i've been on Purple Wraath for a while, and there is no way i'm stopping anytime soon. It always delivered. My favorite CL supplements hands down. Hell my favorite supplement PERIOD.

[EricFTW]

well since i have been taking Purple Wraath during my workouts and White Flood preworkout, absolutely the best workouts i have had in a long long time. I just dont think with the amount of servings per tub, the price of it, and the formula PW has, that any intra-workout product comes close to Purple Wraath. Controlled Labs just dominates every company and looking to see how many bb.com awards they win this year, GO CL!

i agree very much so, im hopeing this creatine will work, i tried purple wrath yesterday and it changed my work out very much for the better, dont know if it was the creatine from the greenMag but i pushed out 80 dumbeels incline for 6 reps which i was super happy with, my buddy pushed out 100 for 4 reps(gave him some from the tub). maybe it was just mind tricks but i was very happy with this accomplishment. thanks CL, looking forward to your new product as well.

[greensquats]

Only intra I've tried is PW. But why switch now when it works so well????? Plus, it has many, many stack combinations to fit almost anybodys needs. What with MAG, Flood, RED, Golden, etc.

[sylkkdaskr]

I tried Free Sample of PW, and i was freggin jacked, now i guess i have to try this other product. Im sure its a fine product as well.

I do, however have half a mind to not purchase either simply due to the almost juvenile nature of half the posts between product reps. Having you guys spin in circles around each other shoulder to shoulder screamin "wachu wanna do"... really doesnt entice me, and im sure others, to purchase your products.

Seeing how you both offer free samples, im sure the majority of people will try them out, and will let the results speak for themselves. Enough of this filibustering now! =)

/endrant

====Edit

Looks like im not gonna get my sample of Intrabolic, i think the free samples are out. Guess ima stick with PW. No biggie however. It worked fine. But i cant offer a fair comparison now. =P

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I never tried Intrabolic but i've been on Purple Wraath for a while, and there is no way i'm stopping anytime soon. It always delivered. My favorite CL supplements hands down. Hell my favorite supplement PERIOD.


i agree very much so, im hopeing this creatine will work, i tried purple wrath yesterday and it changed my work out very much for the better, dont know if it was the creatine from the greenMag but i pushed out 80 dumbeels incline for 6 reps which i was super happy with, my buddy pushed out 100 for 4 reps(gave him some from the tub). maybe it was just mind tricks but i was very happy with this accomplishment. thanks CL, looking forward to your new product as well.


Only intra I've tried is PW. But why switch now when it works so well????? Plus, it has many, many stack combinations to fit almost anybodys needs. What with MAG, Flood, RED, Golden, etc.thanks for the great feedback guys :)


I tried Free Sample of PW, and i was freggin jacked, now i guess i have to try this other product. Im sure its a fine product as well.

I do, however have half a mind to not purchase either simply due to the almost juvenile nature of half the posts between product reps. Having you guys spin in circles around each other shoulder to shoulder screamin "wachu wanna do"... really doesnt entice me, and im sure others, to purchase your products.

Seeing how you both offer free samples, im sure the majority of people will try them out, and will let the results speak for themselves. Enough of this filibustering now! =)

/endrant

====Edit

Looks like im not gonna get my sample of Intrabolic, i think the free samples are out. Guess ima stick with PW. No biggie however. It worked fine. But i cant offer a fair comparison now. =P

glad you enjoyed the PW, sorry if we came off childish, but we could not sit back without defending ourselves, otherwise someone would have taken the false information as truth. we would never initiate anything like that as we strive for professionalism 100% of the time :)

[greensquats]

I tried Free Sample of PW, and i was freggin jacked, now i guess i have to try this other product. Im sure its a fine product as well.

I do, however have half a mind to not purchase either simply due to the almost juvenile nature of half the posts between product reps. Having you guys spin in circles around each other shoulder to shoulder screamin "wachu wanna do"... really doesnt entice me, and im sure others, to purchase your products.

Seeing how you both offer free samples, im sure the majority of people will try them out, and will let the results speak for themselves. Enough of this filibustering now! =)

/endrant

====Edit

Looks like im not gonna get my sample of Intrabolic, i think the free samples are out. Guess ima stick with PW. No biggie however. It worked fine. But i cant offer a fair comparison now. =P

It's all in good nature, not like they're framing each othe - wait a minute... I could be on to something here.... LOL. Anyway, it's a free-market economy, and I think more customers than not enjoy watching two different companies fight for their customers. I know I do. :)

[kimlin85]

when i tried the pw sample packet i did feel more energy when i lifted. samples are nice but i think if you really want to know how well something works, one sample is not enough.

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

====Edit

Looks like im not gonna get my sample of Intrabolic, i think the free samples are out. Guess ima stick with PW. No biggie however. It worked fine. But i cant offer a fair comparison now. =P

Samples are not out, just PM showtime in the thread- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109351381

We will continue to offer these for quite some time.

[thehulk50]

ya i tried out mixing a scoop of PW with my white flood and then 2 scoops during my workout, even before my workout started i couldnt sit still from the energy i was getting...indeed PW is the best intra-workout supp. on the market.....the only way i would ever try a different companies product if I was to get it for free or receive multiple sample packets, im addicted to the purple drank!!

[sensei101]

I have a trully big question to ask..Are intra workout shakes really needed? I currently just take animap pump before along with M-stack...And I have alot of energy during my lift up untill I do something heavy.Then yes I feel a bit warn down but I still feel a good pump..

Are intra drinks really going to make or break you? when shoudl you take them? bulking cutting?...I feel like I need to be sold into even thinking these are worth it.So can someone help me out

[sensei101]

i agree very much so, im hopeing this creatine will work, i tried purple wrath yesterday and it changed my work out very much for the better, dont know if it was the creatine from the greenMag but i pushed out 80 dumbeels incline for 6 reps which i was super happy with, my buddy pushed out 100 for 4 reps(gave him some from the tub). maybe it was just mind tricks but i was very happy with this accomplishment. thanks CL, looking forward to your new product as well.

Wait im a bit confused.What CL supp has creatine and which doesn't?

[pu12en12g]

Wait im a bit confused.What CL supp has creatine

MAGnitude:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/mag.html

BULGE:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/green.html

[sensei101]

um...both the same? whats the diff? pm because this will get off topic fast..

[ravensmadness]

I've tried PW, intrabolic, and today for the first time i tried core abc. Here are my thoughts on all three
PW- Didn't like the taste and didn't notice much of boost to be honest. Maybe it was just a bad day though?
Intrabolic- I really liked the way my workouts were while on this and the taste was decent, i had the best workout i can ever remember having a week or two while i was on in but my stomach didn't like it nearly as much as my muscles did.
Core ABC- It agreed with my stomach and my tastebuds. Plus, my workouts seemed about the same as with intrabolic.
So all in all the one i'll be keeping around is Core ABC

[or_yourlivingtodie]

PURPLE WRAATH FOR THE MUTHA ****IN WIN!!!!


cant beat the ingredient profile + price per serving!!!

[joakman]

cant beat the ingredient profile + price per serving!!!

Profile is very much debatable. Price per serving is very solid.

Have you tried others?

[RippedFibers]

I like Purple Wraath.

Trying XF Ice soon also.

[Myosin10]

IntrAbolic is 4 CENTS more per gram of active and you are getting a FULL spectrum of ALL the essential amino-acids needed to build muscle, you are getting a custom over 30% hydrolyzed whey protein, which was more expensive for us than free-form amino-acids. You get a KNOWN amount of leucine per serving[5g] and you get a KNOWN amount of beta-alanine per serving {3.2g}

To the consumer, ask yourself is that is worth 4cents more per gram of active? To some it is, to some perhaps it isn't.

Regardless, IntrAbolic offers exceptional value for what is contains. :)


I would pay extra to know what I am geting. Why wont CL tell us how much BA is in there and other things? Seems shady


I've tried PW, intrabolic, and today for the first time i tried core abc. Here are my thoughts on all three
PW- Didn't like the taste and didn't notice much of boost to be honest. Maybe it was just a bad day though?
Intrabolic- I really liked the way my workouts were while on this and the taste was decent, i had the best workout i can ever remember having a week or two while i was on in but my stomach didn't like it nearly as much as my muscles did.
Core ABC- It agreed with my stomach and my tastebuds. Plus, my workouts seemed about the same as with intrabolic.
So all in all the one i'll be keeping around is Core ABC

This is probably the best post in this thread because he has tried all three of these products.

I like Intrabolic over PW and I have yet to try Core ABC but I am interested.

[pu12en12g]

PURPLE WRAATH FOR THE MUTHA ****IN WIN!!!!


cant beat the ingredient profile + price per serving!!!

The word is slowly spreading ! :cool:

[Beast21]

I would pay extra to know what I am getting. Why wont CL tell us how much BA is in there and other things? Seems shady

This is so other companies don't copy their formula I believe.

[sensei101]

i DONT KNOW BUT i THINK IM GETTING INTO THE HYPE OF INTRA WORKOUT DRINKS!!!!

lol..Idk it just seems like another product to dump money on...

[freudslip]

purple wraath has a good profile but it just tastes like ass


intrabolic for the win!

[sensei101]

Samples are not out, just PM showtime in the thread- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109351381

We will continue to offer these for quite some time.

Wow.I just saw that your product only last 21 servings...Way to expensive =-/.I want stuff that last for atleast a month. Im giving M-stack a shot to see if it gives me that edge but thats prob the last prod I get that last 21 days lol

[or_yourlivingtodie]

The word is slowly spreading ! :cool:

tomorrow when i finish it off...
made a video review for teh lemonade flavor.....

you'll jizz your panties pt

[or_yourlivingtodie]

Wow.I just saw that your product only last 21 servings...Way to expensive =-/.I want stuff that last for atleast a month. Im giving M-stack a shot to see if it gives me that edge but thats prob the last prod I get that last 21 days lol

wraath can last you up to 90 workout days........

for 50$ you cant get much better than that!

im running m-stak and wraath, awsome combo

[sensei101]

PW have any creatine?

[RxAJ]

Toss up between Purple Wraath and IntrAbolic for me, since having the chance to sample IntrAbolic. PW, overall, can't be beat though when taking into account both effectiveness and value.

Should be interesting to see what universal is going to bring to the table. Hopefully something mildly original and not just a variation of whats already out there.

[or_yourlivingtodie]

PW have any creatine?

cant read teh label yourself??

haha nope
no creatine, its an EAA drink....

Essential
Amino
Acid

and my personal favorite.........its got beta alanine in it

[Free Weight Friedel]

LOL at the way this thread has developed.:D

Intrabolic, Purple Wraath, and Core ABC are all good products.

When it comes down to it, you should use what works best for you and fits into your budget.

[or_yourlivingtodie]

LOL at the way this thread has developed.:D

Intrabolic, Purple Wraath, and Core ABC are all good products.

When it comes down to it, you should use what works best for you and fits into your budget.

and PW fits all budgets :D


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6870661

thats my write up on GRAPE flavor......
IMO lemonade is better, but you get the jist of the product effects

[sensei101]

I still think intra wo drinks are waste of money.I have some samples downstairs so ill give them a shot on chest days and back and legs..After deads and squats im dead so if this keep me up..maybe..

[Progressive8]

Thanks ok 2 more questions though, if the protein is 30% hydrolyzed dosen't that mean that the other 70% is not hydrolyzed and thus is WPI or WPC?

And also, where can i get the sample? lol ^_^


Again, nice post.

Well the AO topic isn't even remotely controversial in the research community, just with the good bro's here on bb.com. Understand, that just about everything you ingest around workouts has anti-oxidant effects, like.....wait for it.......... AMINO-ACIDS!! Beta-alanine, carnosine and many other things we take around workouts, also have antioxidant activity. Should we not take amino-acids around workouts becuase they have some antioxidant effects? My answer, would be a strong HELL NO. The whole argument is incredibly weak, overblown and taken out of context, by looking at research that Mega dosed single AO's or megadose NAC+C. Actually on the contrary, boosting our body's AO's capacity, has shown anti-fatigue effects, reduced muscle soreness and many of them protect and help stabilize NO. The list goes on and on.



That is true, but there is quite a bit more to it than that. :) One of the ways we know protein synthesis is stimulated, is the concentration of amino-acids in EXTRACELLULAR fluid. Spiking amino-acids concentration, DURING workouts, when blood flow is highest, is a great thing for maximizing the anabolic response and increasing amino-acid uptake. Couple that with the fastest absorbed short chain peptides and ffAA's, you can really take advantage of this increased blood flow and cellular sensitivity. There's more on this topic, in our IntrAbolic FAQ thread.




Yes, there is a aerobic study malate, in rats, that showed some promise. If anything, it's highly likely that IF there are any benefits from citrulline/malate, they are from the malate and they are aerobic in nature. I still see nothing wrong with citrulline/malate, it just doesn't have any solid supportive evidence.





See, if they have WPI or WPC they will have the alergenic fractions.

100% hydrolyzed, would mean it's all free-form amino acids and we just lost the benefit of the short chain di-and tripeptides. ;) Our over 30% hydrolyzed whey, will provide you with 70-80% di-and tripeptides, which is as high as I've ever seen, with another hydrolysate, Peptopro, have similar % of peptides.

Give a sample and try and see how you respond and NO, you do not have to write a review, lol :)

[Anssi Manninen]

Intrabolic

[Anssi Manninen]

if the protein is 30% hydrolyzed dosen't that mean that the other 70% is not hydrolyzed and thus is WPI or WPC?


No. Each protein hydrolysate is a complex mixture of peptides of different chain length together with free amino acids, which can be defined by a global value known as degree of hydrolysis (DH), which is the fraction of peptide bonds that have been cleaved in the starter protein. However, even the exact information on DH cannot not tell us the whole story, as two protein hydrolysates made by different methods may have a similar degree of hydrolysis even though their absorption kinetics are likely quite different.

[Progressive8]

I appreaciate the response but i don't get it ^_^U


No. Each protein hydrolysate is a complex mixture of peptides of different chain length together with free amino acids, which can be defined by a global value known as degree of hydrolysis (DH), which is the fraction of peptide bonds that have been cleaved in the starter protein. However, even the exact information on DH cannot not tell us the whole story, as two protein hydrolysates made by different methods may have a similar degree of hydrolysis even though their absorption kinetics are likely quite different.

[Bolt10]

Don't post here much but thought i would throw my input in anyway....

First off i have used Xtend, PW, Size-on and Intrabolic. I am actually surprised there are not more ppl in here talking about Size-on...but eh w/e.

I think they all may have their own uses in different situations, beliefs, and budget. I liked all these products, PW is great for EAAs plus some goodies and i like it pre-workout with carbs at times. While i like xtend i personally think if your gonna go the BCAA route then Core ABC would be the way to go. I also really enjoyed combining Size-on and PW during my lifts for a couple of months(before IA came out..)

With all that said Intrabolic is the king right now. I believe this thread was about which product was best, and everyone may talk about price but i am pretty sure most of you are not penny pinchers with your supplements so maybe you should stop purchasing a bunch of random things that don't work and just put your money towards quality supplements. Intrabolic has a strong formula, gives you the exact doses for the major components of the formula and superior ingredients. Maybe AEN should just label it with 40 servings so ppl realize its not underdosed(based on only 20 servings..) but i know they won't bc that is not how they work.

All in all i believe a combination of Size-on and Intrabolic should be the ultimate combo(while expensive but well spent IMO). I think if you look hard you can see obvious reasons why these products are more superior for during your workouts while the others mentioned so far still can be used for other reasons.

Cliffs:
IA>anything else i have tried :cool:

[Marais]

I love SizeOn, except the taste, no reason I can find that it is not the best Intra-workout drink...

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Thanks ok 2 more questions though, if the protein is 30% hydrolyzed dosen't that mean that the other 70% is not hydrolyzed and thus is WPI or WPC?

And also, where can i get the sample? lol ^_^

Nope, I've had this exact question asked many times before, see below. :)



so lets say we have 1lb of bulk whey... 30% of that 1lb is having certain peptide bonds split enzymatically, with 80% of that 30% being di & tripeptides. 70% of the whey is left in its original state... leaving you with about 25% of that 1lb being di & tripeptides and 5% larger chain fractions.

i think you probably know the company im talking about(PM me if you dont) claims that their whey is 100% hydrolyzed... no large fractions left in the product at ALL... with 55% of the total weight being in di/tripeptide form.

who knows maybe they are full of ****, but their product doesnt taste bad... and dont get me wrong im not trying to bust ur balls, im just saying. intrabolic could actually be catfood flavored and ide still use it, because its one of the few products ive tried that actually works.


Good post and actually something we address in our IntrAbolic write-up as I find it very misleading to state 100% hydrolyzed whey, as it confuses people with the % of hydrolysis the whey has undergone, with the % of WPH the product uses. A product could be all(100%) whey protein hydrolysate, but be any % hydrolyzed. It could literally be 1% hydrolyzed, but you could still say the product contains all of it protein from WPH, so that's a 100%. It's just very confusing for the customer to use % in this way, when % of hydrolysis is something completely different.

If a whey was 100% hydrolyzed..lol, it would be ALL free-form amino acids, which would lose the whole point of trying to produce the di-and tripeptides.

If a company, is stating, they use 100% hydrolyzed whey and have 55% di-and tripeptides, its actual degree of hydrolysis, will be somewhere in the 20's.

Alot of people thought, atleast at the start, when we said our whey was over 30% hydrolyzed, it meant that the remaining 70% of the protein was not. The % of hydrolysis DOES NOT MEAN THIS AT ALL, otherwise, for example, we wouldn't have our over 30% hydrolyzed whey being compromised of 70-80% of di-and tripeptides. :)

It means the avg size of protein has been broken down(reduced) by over 30%.

Appreciate your kind words and in no way think you are trying to give me a hard time.

More importantly is knowing the % of di-and tripeptides.

Free samples thread- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109351381

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Intrabolic

Thanks Anssi, means alot coming from you.


Just in case some of you don't know, Anssi has written/published more on whey protein hydrolysate than just about anyone on the world. He is one of the worlds authorities on it and has had research studies published. If you want to read some of the best sports nutrition articles out there, google his name and check out the literally hundreds of articles he has had published.

His opinions carry ALOT of weight

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Here's two great threads that portray quite nicely how everyone feels about IntrAbolic...mind you the polls in the first thread got a little out of hand (they're private, so people tend to exploit)..but the posts are great reads.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109105271

Here, with public polls, you can see how the voting changed.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6143631


We are also offering samples!!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109351381
^^^^^^
The above threads are the largest collection of feedback from people that have tried all these products and worth reading through.


I would pay extra to know what I am geting. Why wont CL tell us how much BA is in there and other things? Seems shady
This is probably the best post in this thread because he has tried all three of these products.

I like Intrabolic over PW and I have yet to try Core ABC but I am interested.


Wow.I just saw that your product only last 21 servings...Way to expensive =-/.I want stuff that last for atleast a month. Im giving M-stack a shot to see if it gives me that edge but thats prob the last prod I get that last 21 days lol

You only take ONE serving of IntrAbolic per workout, which last most guys 1-1.5 months. It was NOT dosed or designed to go over one scoop and you never need to or should. It's a different approach we took when formulating IntrAbolic. Some people get it and respect the approach, some people don't. Regardless, this is the way we designed IntrAbolic.


Don't post here much but thought i would throw my input in anyway....

First off i have used Xtend, PW, Size-on and Intrabolic. I am actually surprised there are not more ppl in here talking about Size-on...but eh w/e.

I think they all may have their own uses in different situations, beliefs, and budget. I liked all these products, PW is great for EAAs plus some goodies and i like it pre-workout with carbs at times. While i like xtend i personally think if your gonna go the BCAA route then Core ABC would be the way to go. I also really enjoyed combining Size-on and PW during my lifts for a couple of months(before IA came out..)

With all that said Intrabolic is the king right now. I believe this thread was about which product was best, and everyone may talk about price but i am pretty sure most of you are not penny pinchers with your supplements so maybe you should stop purchasing a bunch of random things that don't work and just put your money towards quality supplements. Intrabolic has a strong formula, gives you the exact doses for the major components of the formula and superior ingredients. Maybe AEN should just label it with 40 servings so ppl realize its not underdosed(based on only 20 servings..) but i know they won't bc that is not how they work.

All in all i believe a combination of Size-on and Intrabolic should be the ultimate combo(while expensive but well spent IMO). I think if you look hard you can see obvious reasons why these products are more superior for during your workouts while the others mentioned so far still can be used for other reasons.

Cliffs:
IA>anything else i have tried :cool:

Very good post and solid feedback from someone who has tried some of the different products.

Yeah, maybe we should just half dose it and label it 40 servings to follow the trend of underdosed products that you need to take 2-3+ scoops to get into the efficacious range, for guys that weigh 200lbs+. ;) j/k of course, that's not our philosophy and frankly I was personally tired of using products that needed to be doubled, tripled or more to get the correct research dosage of ingredients.

[Fuerza_M]

intrabolic and for budget NOW electro-pro http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/electropro.html

[Progressive8]

got it thanks, so it's 100 percent WPH with the degree of hydrolysis being 30% ^_^


Nope, I've had this exact question asked many times before, see below. :)






More importantly is knowing the % of di-and tripeptides.

Free samples thread- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=109351381

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

got it thanks, so it's 100 percent WPH with the degree of hydrolysis being 30% ^_^

Yes, exactly and the % of hydrolysis is what creates the % of di-and tripeptides, which is where the advantages of hydrolysates come from. But yeah, you got it.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

when i tried the pw sample packet i did feel more energy when i lifted. samples are nice but i think if you really want to know how well something works, one sample is not enough.
thanks for your feedback :)

ya i tried out mixing a scoop of PW with my white flood and then 2 scoops during my workout, even before my workout started i couldnt sit still from the energy i was getting...indeed PW is the best intra-workout supp. on the market.....the only way i would ever try a different companies product if I was to get it for free or receive multiple sample packets, im addicted to the purple drank!!
solid combo right there. the CL products are designed for great stacking choices. :)

Wait im a bit confused.What CL supp has creatine and which doesn't?
the "green" ones do :)

PURPLE WRAATH FOR THE MUTHA ****IN WIN!!!!


cant beat the ingredient profile + price per serving!!!
this man speaks the truth :)

I like Purple Wraath.

Trying XF Ice soon also.
thanks for your support :)

tomorrow when i finish it off...
made a video review for teh lemonade flavor.....

you'll jizz your panties pt
looking forward to that. when purple wraath makes people this happy, we know we did something right ;)

PW have any creatine?
nope

Toss up between Purple Wraath and IntrAbolic for me, since having the chance to sample IntrAbolic. PW, overall, can't be beat though when taking into account both effectiveness and value.


very true, most people arent made of money. purple wraath is both very effective and affordable on a consistent workout/cardio basis.

and PW fits all budgets :D


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6870661

thats my write up on GRAPE flavor......
IMO lemonade is better, but you get the jist of the product effects
lemonade tastes amazing, many love the grape as well

[RonShipman]

you guys ever just drink water while working out? do you always have to be drinking some damn powder mix of some junk.

[EMISGOD]

For what it's worth, Purple WRAATH is the #1 endurance product on BB.COM and has been for some time.

No disagreement here and PW definitely deserves it. When I think "endurance", I almost always think Cardio-related and that's where this shines best. I believe MAN Body Octane and Champion Revenge Pro also could potentially either be of the same quality or possibly better, particularly if stacked, though that might make some negative taste considerations. When I think of Lifting, though, the workouts are generally not of sufficient duration to really call to mind "endurance", though I believe it does play a role.


Wow.I just saw that your product only last 21 servings...Way to expensive =-/.I want stuff that last for atleast a month.

Are you saying you have a Lifting workout more than 21 times per month?


LOL at the way this thread has developed.:D

Intrabolic, Purple Wraath, and Core ABC are all good products.

When it comes down to it, you should use what works best for you and fits into your budget.

I think the latter in that last sentence is more important than the former, but the first two definitely have a very solid value at their current price points.


you guys ever just drink water while working out? do you always have to be drinking some damn powder mix of some junk.

I used to pre-load and then just use straight water for the workouts for years. During super-intense Cardio, I also tend to use straight water, though that is more a matter of avoidance of distraction than anything else. While that method does have some usefulness (such as pure speed, for instance), if you want to drive performance higher, it makes sense to use tools, which is what I consider both of these things. Technological advances have made it possible to have both of them and while I don't consider PW vs. IA to be a particularly fair or valid comparison, both of them are at the top of their respective fields in terms of the jobs they were built to do...I think a lot of the dissension in this thread is coming from people trying to cross fields of expertise with these two and that is somewhat from the lack of specific definition by the term "workout"...

[itsgroll]

what exactly is "intabolic"? is it just a pre workout supplement? i mean...here is a question for CL...whats the difference in purple wrath and white flood? purple wrath gives NO pump and white flood does, correct?

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No, like the NAME implies, it's a Intra(DURING) workout muscle building supplement. Read the FAQ above and some of our articles, to get a better understanding.

what exactly is "intabolic"? is it just a pre workout supplement? i mean...here is a question for CL...whats the difference in purple wrath and white flood? purple wrath gives NO pump and white flood does, correct?

[EMISGOD]

what exactly is "intabolic"? is it just a pre workout supplement? i mean...here is a question for CL...whats the difference in purple wrath and white flood? purple wrath gives NO pump and white flood does, correct?

IntrAbolic is a supplement to be taken during the workout itself.

[donoh]

Overall I'd say IntrAbolic. Breaking it down more I like IntrAbolic with heavy workouts and bulking where-as I'd use Purple Wraath more for cutting and cardio. Both supplements have their own places in a stack though. I really like PW preworkout as well.

[kerplunk]

I would have to say that Vendetta + ALCAR during a workout would get my vote.

But that may change after I sample IntraBolic and maybe Intra-Aid

And Universal's Torrent is perhaps a bit overlooked when It comes to intra-workout nutrition.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

here is a question for CL...whats the difference in purple wrath and white flood? purple wrath gives NO pump and white flood does, correct?

white flood is a preworkout NO energizing product for workout days. purple wraath is an intraworkout essential amino acid product that will help with recovery and endurance and is stimulant free :)

[deserusan]

Gaspari SizeON has been on the market for years and CREATED the intra-workout bodybuilding category. You'll notice how many companies are now copy it or making FALSE claims about this particular category. It's also clinically proven unlike EVERYONE else. Here is some more info from Gaspari Nutrition CEO and IFBB Hall Of Famer Rich Gaspari.


dZYYACh-UyY

For a free sample of Gaspari SizeON or Superpump please e-mail samples@gasparinutrition.com with your full name, address, and request.

[sensei101]

I took sizeon..intra workout to.didnt get crazy pumps..Didnt get ever lasting energy.Nothing.

[deserusan]

I took sizeon..intra workout to.didnt get crazy pumps..Didnt get ever lasting energy.Nothing.

That's odd, everyone else seems to. What's your diet like?

[Peter LeDrew]

I took sizeon..intra workout to.didnt get crazy pumps..Didnt get ever lasting energy.Nothing.

goes to show even the really good products don't work for everyone.

[sensei101]

Diest was alright..Not hard core.It might have been a bit off but I dont count calories or non of that.I usually have a sandwich on Whole wheat for the morning. then eat through the day. Healthy home cooked meals and stuff. Then after the gym chicken and pasta. and shake of course.And a shake prob before bed..It wasnt hard core...But still maybe if I gave it another shot.But to be honest superpump and sizeon together did nothing..Litterly nothing..I kepted adding water to sizeon thou during my workouts.Bad?
And energy.Still I remember ONCE I took superpump (even old formula) and I had the best back workout in a while.But that was it.Once...I think I need like 3 packets and see if that works.But right now im on Animal pump and M-stack so Everysample gets put on hol.d

[deserusan]

Diest was alright..Not hard core.It might have been a bit off but I dont count calories or non of that.I usually have a sandwich on Whole wheat for the morning. then eat through the day. Healthy home cooked meals and stuff. Then after the gym chicken and pasta. and shake of course.And a shake prob before bed..It wasnt hard core...But still maybe if I gave it another shot.But to be honest superpump and sizeon together did nothing..Litterly nothing..I kepted adding water to sizeon thou during my workouts.Bad?
And energy.Still I remember ONCE I took superpump (even old formula) and I had the best back workout in a while.But that was it.Once...I think I need like 3 packets and see if that works.But right now im on Animal pump and M-stack so Everysample gets put on hol.d

You are basing your judgment off samples? I'm not understanding here. Also, as someone who takes fitness seriously, you cannot say your diet was "alright" and not even know how many calories you are getting in. Just some friendly advice from someone more experienced.

[Jack.Bauer]

I'm confused as to how both SizeOn and Green MAGnitude are, among other things, creatine based...

Yet GM you're supposed to take pre WO, and SizeOn preferably during WO.

Am I missing something?

[deserusan]

I'm confused as to how both SizeOn and Green MAGnitude are, among other things, creatine based...

Yet GM you're supposed to take pre WO, and SizeOn preferably during WO.

Am I missing something?

SizeON is more then just creatine. It contains a carb complex which is very important during training to increase muscular endurance, etc. It also contains Peak ATP which is very expensive albeit efficacious. Here is some more info about it from the world's leading research for the athletic applications using oral ATP, Dr. Rapaport. He owns the patent for Peak ATP.


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The first video shows why utilizing a supplement containing Peak ATP can really set it apart when it comes to performance. Combining this with a carb source like the Outlast complex in SizeON is great for recovery, endurance, and performance.

[Adjusting]

ATP stimulates arginine uptake....cool. Makes sense to combine arginine with ATP ala Plasmajet.

Very informative video Deserusan. Thanks for posting those.

[Jack.Bauer]

SizeON is more then just creatine. It contains a carb complex which is very important during training to increase muscular endurance, etc. It also contains Peak ATP which is very expensive albeit efficacious. Here is some more info about it from the world's leading research for the athletic applications using oral ATP, Dr. Rapaport. He owns the patent for Peak ATP.


Thank you - I forgot about all the other stuff in there... I recall looking at the tub the other day and seeing the sugars, so that should have come to mind.

I have to decide if I want to stick with SizeOn, or move to Green Mag during pre-WO. I realize not the same thing, but I'm not going to double dose myself with all that creatine.

[deserusan]

Thank you - I forgot about all the other stuff in there... I recall looking at the tub the other day and seeing the sugars, so that should have come to mind.

I have to decide if I want to stick with SizeOn, or move to Green Mag during pre-WO. I realize not the same thing, but I'm not going to double dose myself with all that creatine.

My suggestion is to try out both. Both are very different products.

[rudyky08]

Intrabolic + Sizeon is the ultimate intraworkout drink

[deserusan]

Intrabolic + Sizeon is the ultimate intraworkout drink

It's a very potent combo speaking from personal experience. So is SizeON with Purple Wraath. I should also mention that none of my negative commentary above has anything to do with Controlled Labs or Athletic Edge Nutrition. It's to the schmucks who have outright copied or are planning on copying SizeON. :)

[ravensmadness]

honestly the best thing to do is try the stuff your interested in. I've tried PW, Intrabolic, and Core ABC through samples and bb.com's wonderful return policy on opened products. i wrote my thoughts on those three products on page 2

[CONTROLLED LABS]

My suggestion is to try out both. Both are very different products.
exactly. size on and green magnitude are two of the best creatine products on the market and both are very popular here :)

It's a very potent combo speaking from personal experience. So is SizeON with Purple Wraath.

yup. tons of people combine purple wraath and size on into a single shake for intraworkout, that is a great combo as well. :)

[rudyky08]

It's a very potent combo speaking from personal experience. So is SizeON with Purple Wraath. I should also mention that none of my negative commentary above has anything to do with Controlled Labs or Athletic Edge Nutrition. It's to the schmucks who have outright copied or are planning on copying SizeON. :)

I have noticed the SizeOn knockoffs popping up more and more. SizeOn still has the best profile IMO. Schmucks is a good word, not too offensive but still gets the job done, lol.

[sensei101]

You are basing your judgment off samples? I'm not understanding here. Also, as someone who takes fitness seriously, you cannot say your diet was "alright" and not even know how many calories you are getting in. Just some friendly advice from someone more experienced.

Thanks alot..I just dont count calories..Main reason is..How do I count the calories in a "pasticho" (its a spanish dish.Like lasagnia)..Mom cooks alot so I cant count calories for home cooked meals..

[deserusan]

Thanks alot..I just dont count calories..Main reason is..How do I count the calories in a "pasticho" (its a spanish dish.Like lasagnia)..Mom cooks alot so I cant count calories for home cooked meals..

Just one "normal" day add up your calories on www.fitday.com to get an idea. This will help put you in the proper mindset. As far as you mom's dish, look at the ingredients she uses to make it and go from there.

[sensei101]

Just one "normal" day add up your calories on www.fitday.com to get an idea. This will help put you in the proper mindset. As far as you mom's dish, look at the ingredients she uses to make it and go from there.

Thats hard..Really hard.Lol today she made a soup..Before I could say hi she put in
-Onions
-some broath
-brocoli
-HENNESY-
-something else she made

and some other stuff lol..Moms cooking is impossible.Everything else maybe lol..

[jaybb]

I love Intrabolic but I hate the childish back and forths between the companies in here. Why can't the users speak for themselves? I thought there was already a section for company reps to shill.

[Peter LeDrew]

I have noticed the SizeOn knockoffs popping up more and more. SizeOn still has the best profile IMO. Schmucks is a good word, not too offensive but still gets the job done, lol.


I can totally understand a company's dissapointment and frustration when one of their top products gets seemingly ripped off... the rip-off artists are quick to look for the best and popular products to copy... I try to support innovation because those innovative companies are the ones who will keep the great products coming in the future and if we simply supported weaker minds and companies who just copy, well I think the innovation would just dry up and die.

[EMISGOD]

My suggestion is to try out both. Both are very different products.

I think this is ultimately where people need to go to decide for themselves. These threads will never come up to a conclusive answer. Hell, even I didn't. If nothing else, it will at least people to perhaps choices of precedence...

This particular category, though, does suffer from a lack of definition, in terms of Lifting workout vs. Cardio workout and I think this is a very important point. Using one instead of another is a little like using a pipe wrench or shoe or brick or baseball bat or forehead to pound in nails. Will those others work? Sure, but a hammer will work better and if people are going to use supplements, they should pick the one that's going to respond the best for the particular job.

[leonidas300]

It's a very potent combo speaking from personal experience. So is SizeON with Purple Wraath. I should also mention that none of my negative commentary above has anything to do with Controlled Labs or Athletic Edge Nutrition. It's to the schmucks who have outright copied or are planning on copying SizeON. :)

Despite my problems with this Gaspari Rep ;) I have found Size On + Swell to be one of the best combinations of products I have ever used. Size On is hands down my favorite creatine product. I have only used a few samples of Super Pump 250 and it is one of the best preworkout products I have used. If I did not have so much crap laying around I would have purchased SP along time ago. I think the combo of the two products would be damn impressive.

[leonidas300]

Thanks alot..I just dont count calories..Main reason is..How do I count the calories in a "pasticho" (its a spanish dish.Like lasagnia)..Mom cooks alot so I cant count calories for home cooked meals..

I have a similar problem as I am constantly out at business lunches and dinners and it is impossible to guess what ingredients are used and most chef's won't come right out and tell you. When this happens just take your best guess based upon portion sizes.

[itsgroll]

It's a very potent combo speaking from personal experience. So is SizeON with Purple Wraath. I should also mention that none of my negative commentary above has anything to do with Controlled Labs or Athletic Edge Nutrition. It's to the schmucks who have outright copied or are planning on copying SizeON. :)

sounds good...what about taking white blood pre workout and size on during? or mixing white flood and size on?

is size on a NO product or just a energy and recovery product?

[deserusan]

sounds good...what about taking white blood pre workout and size on during? or mixing white flood and size on?

is size on a NO product or just a energy and recovery product?

SizeON is a creatine cocktail which increases endurance, recovery, volumization, and to a lessor degree, NO. It will stack well with White Flood, Superpump250, etc.

[sensei101]

sizeone is bassicly a hella good creatine formula right?? Once my current stack is donw im going to need creatine and a good PW supp. And if my next PW supp doesnt have creatine already in it I might buy a tub and give it a shot.

[itsgroll]

SizeON is a creatine cocktail which increases endurance, recovery, volumization, and to a lessor degree, NO. It will stack well with White Flood, Superpump250, etc.
thanks!
so if i took white flood and size-on. would i take white flood 30 prior to lift and size on during and after lifting?
what about non lifting rest days?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

thanks!
so if i took white flood and size-on. would i take white flood 30 prior to lift and size on during and after lifting?
what about non lifting rest days?

yup, no white flood on off days

[wobemaster]

my vote goes to Purple Wraath

Awesome value and works wonders

[g37SkylineGTR]

Purple Wraath DUH!!

[sensei101]

Kinda excited to use my sample of PW tom for chest..Going hard and heavy right off the gate on flat.Gonna get 80 for a few reps.If I feel good then gonna stick to heavy for the rest of flat then go lighter for incline..Lets see what this stuffis about

[TriednTrue]

Purple Wraath and White Flood make the best combo for myself, feels like I've tried just about every product out there and NOTHING compares to PW and WF, love this stuff

[itsgroll]

well i just ordered myself some white flood! im getting excited. if i like this stuff i will be getting white blood and PW. :)

[emilooos]

Purple Wraath definitely.
<yes>

[SHOWTIME]

If you had to pick just ONE intra-workout product to take DURING YOUR WORKOUT, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take intra-workout products, if you should take intra-workout products, or why some intra-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite intra-workout product and give your detailed reason.)

I thought I would bump this, so others could see the POINT of this thread.

Now the NOTE part was not there for the first 1-3 pages but has been there since. I see a lot of posts that do NOT belong here, or that are incomplete posts which should be deleted.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

my vote goes to Purple Wraath

Awesome value and works wonders
thanks, it is up for nominations this year, please really vote for it ;)

you should be able to get a great product and a great value, with Purple Wraath you do :)

Purple Wraath DUH!!

sweet and to the point :)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Kinda excited to use my sample of PW tom for chest..Going hard and heavy right off the gate on flat.Gonna get 80 for a few reps.If I feel good then gonna stick to heavy for the rest of flat then go lighter for incline..Lets see what this stuffis about
awesome, I think you will love it and we are always looking forward to good detailed feedback. it helps other people who may be interested in the product and helps us produce new product and tweak existing ones to make them even better :)

Purple Wraath and White Flood make the best combo for myself, feels like I've tried just about every product out there and NOTHING compares to PW and WF, love this stuff
that is an awesome combo and we are glad you are loving it? have you tired green magnitude with it for your creaitine? or are you using something else? (bb.com has great combo deals on all three if purchased together)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

well i just ordered myself some white flood! im getting excited. if i like this stuff i will be getting white blood and PW. :)
yup, like the above poster said, that is a great combo. do you have a creatine? if so, which?

Purple Wraath definitely.
<yes>

glad you like it, which flavor are you using now?

[dtrain13]

Wow.I just saw that your product only last 21 servings...Way to expensive =-/.I want stuff that last for atleast a month. Im giving M-stack a shot to see if it gives me that edge but thats prob the last prod I get that last 21 days lol

If you train 5 days a week it is a month.


LOL @ this thread. Glad I missed it up to this point because I would've been banned. :D

[emilooos]

I am still taking old version of Grape flavor, but for me - it is not bad.
First amino-acid product which I really felt!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I am still taking old version of Grape flavor, but for me - it wasn't bad.
First amino-acid product which I really felt!

wow, then you are in for a treat when it comes to your next tub as the grape now tastes great (for the last 18 months) and the new lemonade is spectacular

[deserusan]

Gaspari SizeON has been on the market for years and CREATED the intra-workout bodybuilding category. You'll notice how many companies are now copy it or making FALSE claims about this particular category. It's also clinically proven unlike EVERYONE else. Here is some more info from Gaspari Nutrition CEO and IFBB Hall Of Famer Rich Gaspari.


dZYYACh-UyY

For a free sample of Gaspari SizeON or Superpump please e-mail samples@gasparinutrition.com with your full name, address, and request.

.........

[itsgroll]

yup, like the above poster said, that is a great combo. do you have a creatine? if so, which?


glad you like it, which flavor are you using now?

i am using a basic micronized creatine powder. its cheap. when it runs out i might switch to green buldge

[40-Yard Dash_2]

If you train 5 days a week it is a month.


LOL @ this thread. Glad I missed it up to this point because I would've been banned. :D

I choose to train once a month.

Don't want to over train, and the recovery time is amazing!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i am using a basic micronized creatine powder. its cheap. when it runs out i might switch to green buldge

ok great, whatever your budget can fit. creapure is a good place to start

[dtrain13]

I choose to train once a month.

Don't want to over train, and the recovery time is amazing!

LMAO!! :D

[thehulk50]

well i just ordered myself some white flood! im getting excited. if i like this stuff i will be getting white blood and PW. :)

white flood is the bomb! since ive stacked WF and PW, ive noticed much more intensity during my workouts, better recovery, and also im beginning to look much more vascular than i did before i stacked the two. As you can tell im very happy with the purchase of these 2, i'd get GG along with GM if i had the money but college just takes all the money away haha

[audipotential]

I got my controlled labs samples in the mail. Will try purple wrath today

[itsgroll]

ok great, whatever your budget can fit. creapure is a good place to start
creapure? what is that? is that green buldge?

[itsgroll]

white flood is the bomb! since ive stacked WF and PW, ive noticed much more intensity during my workouts, better recovery, and also im beginning to look much more vascular than i did before i stacked the two. As you can tell im very happy with the purchase of these 2, i'd get GG along with GM if i had the money but college just takes all the money away haha

yea man i here ya on that. im a senior at school. but i somehow make some money on the side for my supps. :) lol

[audipotential]

Gonna post this here too....
I got one sample pack of Purple Wrath so I tried it out today. I mixed it with 500 mls of water, drank 200 mils, then filled it to 500 again. I drank half pre workout till I started to get the beta alanine buzz. Then I downed the rest and started lifting.
I got a great pump on it and I think the taste is great but overall I really think that Intrabolic is just a better product. I got a way harder buzz with Intrabolic as well.

Im not saying that Purple Wrath sucks. It has proven ingredients, but Id say Intrabolic is more worth it. You can really tell the difference the the HWI makes in the product

What im getting at is...comparing purple wrath to intrabolic is like comparing an Audi to a VW. Both of them have the same core but the audi has things that the VW doesnt offer which is why you pay more for it.

[jaybb]

I thought I would bump this, so others could see the POINT of this thread.

Now the NOTE part was not there for the first 1-3 pages but has been there since. I see a lot of posts that do NOT belong here, or that are incomplete posts which should be deleted.

I thought I walked into the company promotion thread when I first checked this out. For bb.com's sake, this thread (and the other supplement wars threads) should be cleaned up... Just let the members post their feedback without having a company rep jump onto every post.

[Peter LeDrew]

If you train 5 days a week it is a month.


LOL @ this thread. Glad I missed it up to this point because I would've been banned. :D


lol, um yeah.

[itsgroll]

Gonna post this here too....
I got one sample pack of Purple Wrath so I tried it out today. I mixed it with 500 mls of water, drank 200 mils, then filled it to 500 again. I drank half pre workout till I started to get the beta alanine buzz. Then I downed the rest and started lifting.
I got a great pump on it and I think the taste is great but overall I really think that Intrabolic is just a better product. I got a way harder buzz with Intrabolic as well.

Im not saying that Purple Wrath sucks. It has proven ingredients, but Id say Intrabolic is more worth it. You can really tell the difference the the HWI makes in the product

What im getting at is...comparing purple wrath to intrabolic is like comparing an Audi to a VW. Both of them have the same core but the audi has things that the VW doesnt offer which is why you pay more for it.

well stated. i believe that every one will react slightly different too to each product. PW might work better for others, and intrabolic way not. it goes oth way. either or i say try both and see which you like and stick with it. :)

[or_yourlivingtodie]

thank wanted me to post this here............


k4-awU_5vUo

[cxm]

Size-on by itself is an excellent intra-workout product, Intrabolic is another good product.

Personally I would go with a mix of both
Size-On + Intrabolic

Now if you want something cheaper

Vendetta + creapure + beta-alanine+ ALCAR
Vassive EA8 + cytomax +creapure + beta-alanine + ALCAR
Primal EAA + cytomax +creapure + beta-alanine + ALCAR

In my opinion sometimes carbs are overlooked and underappreciated during a workout.

[Elliptical Envy]

****, the pimping is strong in this thread.......holy hell

[headinahole]

****, the pimping is strong in this thread.......holy hell

I know for a fact the people that blatantly troll their **** on here will never see a dime from me.

[sensei101]

thank wanted me to post this here............


k4-awU_5vUo

I really dont think we needed a video of you trying out a sample lol....kudos to you thou.

[beast69]

I compete in the sport of Strongman, and trust me, while competing for an afternoon, giving each event everything you have, your body tends to get weaker as the day goes on. I've been using IntraBolic for about 4-5 weeks now, over the course of which I've competed in two Strongman competitions. The effect I've noticed most is that as soon as the next event comes around, I'm ready to go. I'm not still exhausted from the previous event. I'm sure some of this has to do with my training routine, but I honestly believe that IntraBolic has something to do with it. Because of this increased recovery during competition, among other benefits during training, IntraBolic gets my vote :cool:

[kimchupa]

If you are to choose just one between Purple Wraath and White Flood?

seems that WF is a pre workout and PW is intraworkout
if you had to choose one of these two which would you choose?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

If you are to choose just one between Purple Wraath and White Flood?

seems that WF is a pre workout and PW is intraworkout
if you had to choose one of these two which would you choose?

purple wraath if its an intraworkout product you want (this is the intra thread)

[santosomar]

Would anyone recommend Xtend? I bought it a couple of weeks ago, but do not notice that much difference (sometimes even 3 scoops, since I weight 230lbs).

[Peter LeDrew]

I compete in the sport of Strongman, and trust me, while competing for an afternoon, giving each event everything you have, your body tends to get weaker as the day goes on. I've been using IntraBolic for about 4-5 weeks now, over the course of which I've competed in two Strongman competitions. The effect I've noticed most is that as soon as the next event comes around, I'm ready to go. I'm not still exhausted from the previous event. I'm sure some of this has to do with my training routine, but I honestly believe that IntraBolic has something to do with it. Because of this increased recovery during competition, among other benefits during training, IntraBolic gets my vote :cool:

Nice!

The combo of SteelEdge/IntrAbolic should be amazing for recovery and strength during competition... do you throw some SteelEdge in there?
As with all AEN supps, the basis in science runs deep and it should assist in preventing central and peripheral fatigue which would most def. affect strongman athletes.... http://www.aenutrition.com/PreWO%20part%202%20OCT.pdf

Throw in a capsule or two of IntraXCell for good measure and you are set!!

[missile_silo]

Intrabolic works! But the only thing I didn't like about it was the number of servings that I got from the tub. It says it has 20 servings but I literally counted it and there were only 15 servings. So basically, I got short changed. The reason why I counted it was because when I opened the tub it didn't seem like there were 20 servings. So that's what prompted me to count it. I don't normally count the servings in my supplements. That was actually the first time. So because of that, once I'm done with my N.O. Shotgun/Synthesize stack I'm switching back to GlycerGrow for pre and intra workout. At least GlycerGrow's tub last longer. Not only GlycerGrow works, it's also economical. And I'll take Dark Matter (again) for postworkout.

[Peter LeDrew]

Intrabolic works! But the only thing I didn't like about it was the number of servings that I got from the tub. It says it has 20 servings but I literally counted it and there were only 15 servings. So basically, I got short changed. The reason why I counted it was because when I opened the tub it didn't seem like there were 20 servings. So that's what prompted me to count it. I don't normally count the servings in my supplements. That was actually the first time. So because of that, once I'm done with my N.O. Shotgun/Synthesize stack I'm switching back to GlycerGrow for pre and intra workout. At least GlycerGrow's tub last longer. Not only GlycerGrow works, it's also economical. And I'll take Dark Matter (again) for postworkout.


That's just one of those weird posts... I have gone through nearly 8-9 tubs of IntrAbolic and not once noticed such a thing...nor heard of others complain of this and IntrAbolic has been out for nearly a year now.
GlycerGrow isn't even considered an intra-workout product and doesn't even work through any similar pathways or use similar ingredients.
GG might be something you might want to add to other products.

[kappaz]

creapure? what is that? is that green buldge?

Best source of creatine monohydrate

http://www.creapure.com/index.php?id=53&L=1

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm a big fan of regular old BCAAs. Scivation Xtend to be exact.

[beast69]

Nice!

The combo of SteelEdge/IntrAbolic should be amazing for recovery and strength during competition... do you throw some SteelEdge in there?
As with all AEN supps, the basis in science runs deep and it should assist in preventing central and peripheral fatigue which would most def. affect strongman athletes.... http://www.aenutrition.com/PreWO%20part%202%20OCT.pdf

Throw in a capsule or two of IntraXCell for good measure and you are set!!

I am using IntraXcell and SteelEdge as well. I have used them before, The only difference this time around is the addition of IntraBolic.

[missile_silo]

I don't know man! I got the tub from Vitaminshoppe and it was less than 20 servings. Maybe a bad tub. Nothing is perfect in this world so maybe there was an error when they were filling up the tub. Who knows! But that was the only complaint I have. Other than that, like what I said, the stuff works! As far as GG is concerned, the only reason why I would consider that as intra is because it says on the label that you could drink it before and during your workout. It's a great cell volumizing agent.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Intrabolic works! But the only thing I didn't like about it was the number of servings that I got from the tub. It says it has 20 servings but I literally counted it and there were only 15 servings. So basically, I got short changed. The reason why I counted it was because when I opened the tub it didn't seem like there were 20 servings. So that's what prompted me to count it. I don't normally count the servings in my supplements. That was actually the first time. So because of that, once I'm done with my N.O. Shotgun/Synthesize stack I'm switching back to GlycerGrow for pre and intra workout. At least GlycerGrow's tub last longer. Not only GlycerGrow works, it's also economical. And I'll take Dark Matter (again) for postworkout.

have you tried purple wraath? it has 90 servings and stacks well with glycergrow :)

[sensei101]

Pw no lie did a number on me.when I was in the gym I had plenty of energy..I just still dont understand glycergrow!

[missile_silo]

have you tried purple wraath? it has 90 servings and stacks well with glycergrow :)

No, I haven't tried Purple Wrath yet. I was gonna get it one time but I ended up getting Xtend (Scivation).

[CBallard]

I wanted to get scivation but really broke right now and i found BCAA+G which looks like a scivation sub with less glut but i will add some. Anyone know if this brand MRM is crap or good or anything like that?

[FF8114]

I wanted to get scivation but really broke right now and i found BCAA+G which looks like a scivation sub with less glut but i will add some. Anyone know if this brand MRM is crap or good or anything like that?

MRM is a quality brand.

The BCAA+G flavoring is very subtle as compared to Xtend.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Pw no lie did a number on me.when I was in the gym I had plenty of energy..I just still dont understand glycergrow!
awesome, thanks for the feedback on purple wraath. what questions do you have on glycergrow?

No, I haven't tried Purple Wrath yet. I was gonna get it one time but I ended up getting Xtend (Scivation).

give the free sample packet a try, I think you will be very happy

[GPx]

Usually not a fan of taking something during a workout but I gave Purple Wraath a try yesterday. Taste was good, much better than Green Mag's Apple IMO...after taste was awful though.

As for the product, definitely worked great. I wasn't 100% sure on what its purpose was, but I definitely felt more energy and pump. Made me not want to leave the gym! haha.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Usually not a fan of taking something during a workout but I gave Purple Wraath a try yesterday. Taste was good, much better than Green Mag's Apple IMO...after taste was awful though.

As for the product, definitely worked great. I wasn't 100% sure on what its purpose was, but I definitely felt more energy and pump. Made me not want to leave the gym! haha.

sounds great, with prolonged use you should recover much faster as well, thus allowing you to train harder

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by admin View Post
If you had to pick just ONE intra-workout product to take DURING YOUR WORKOUT, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take intra-workout products, if you should take intra-workout products, or why some intra-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite intra-workout product and give your detailed reason.)


I thought I would bump this, so others could see the POINT of this thread.

Now the NOTE part was not there for the first 1-3 pages but has been there since. I see a lot of posts that do NOT belong here, or that are incomplete posts which should be deleted.

x2

[kerplunk]

I thought I would bump this, so others could see the POINT of this thread.

Now the NOTE part was not there for the first 1-3 pages but has been there since. I see a lot of posts that do NOT belong here, or that are incomplete posts which should be deleted.

x2

I agree 100%

My favorite Intraworkout product is IntrAbolic because It's scientifically proven to work and performs every aspect that it is said to enhance and more! It is great stuff! I recommend it to anyone seeking Intraworkout Nutrition.

[tuhaka2005]

PW for me, definately keeps me going through my workout and helps recover afterwards as well. I'll have to try Intrabolic though so that i can compare the both.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

PW for me, definately keeps me going through my workout and helps recover afterwards as well. I'll have to try Intrabolic though so that i can compare the both.

glad you are enjoying purple wraath, which flavor do you have?

[or_yourlivingtodie]

I really dont think we needed a video of you trying out a sample lol....kudos to you thou.

its all bout repping the company bro :D

[sylkkdaskr]

Well i have tried both Intrabolic and Purplewrath.

I cannot yet give a TRUE 100% comparison because when i tried PW it was the first time i used my WF and GreenMag as well, so i was really jacked at the gym, but i dont know if it was because my body was getting used to the WF or because it was due to the PW.

I DID however try Intrabolic today, and i can honestly say, i did not feel the same effect as i did with PW. I even switched out my Legs and Arms days because i wanted to really be able to shred my bi's and tri's at the gym today with my new intrabolic, and sadly i was let down.

It may work with some people, but it did not give me the same feeling i got with the PW. But agian, it coulda been that it wasnt the PW that gave me that rush the first time around, it may have been the bodies low tolerance for a new pre-wo stack.

I would like to try another PW sample so i can give a fair comparison, and probably buy a tub.

Im not saying INtrabolic is a bad product, it just didnt give me what i hoped for.

[DrewBlueR32]

Pw no lie did a number on me.when I was in the gym I had plenty of energy..I just still dont understand glycergrow!


I'm no expert on Glycergrow but apparantely, the main ingredient Glycerol Monostearate helps with the delivery of certain nutrients and therefore stacks well with pre and post workout supplements because it aids in the delivery of the ingredients in them thus helping recovery, better pump, etc..

Thats my take on it anyways, please feel free to correct me if im totally off here..

"What exactly is Glycerol MonoStearate?Glycerol occurs naturally in the body. When it is ingested as a supplement, it is absorbed and increases the concentration of the fluid in the blood and tissues. The concentration of these fluids is held constant by the body, so water consumed with glycerol is not excreted until the extra glycerol is either removed by the kidneys or broken down by the body. In laymen's terms, taking glycerol in supplemental form quickly improves hydration and the absorption of other supplements that are taken with it. The end result is faster delivery of nutrients when and where you need them the most and the prolonged "pump effect" during your workouts. Our Glycerol is esterified with stearic acid to form Glycerol MonoStearate. Glycerol MonoStearate is a colorless, odorless and sweet-tasting flaky powder that is hygroscopic (it absorbs water from the air, so keep this tightly closed at all times). "

[sensei101]

so its a powder that makes other stuff work better? why not just add it to say WHITE flood? 241 typa deal

[zune]

dont you get the amino acids from food? so what its the real purpose of wraath and other stuff like that? just buy bulk aminos and take some pre and post workout and add some Beta-Alanine and maybe add a bit more of leucine?

[pu12en12g]

dont you get the amino acids from food? so what its the real purpose of wraath and other stuff like that? just buy bulk aminos and take some pre and post workout and add some Beta-Alanine and maybe add a bit more of leucine?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=20344051&postcount=2

[pu12en12g]

so its a powder that makes other stuff work better? why not just add it to say WHITE flood? 241 typa deal

Many like to cycle from one to the other since White FLOOD contains stims and GlycerGROW is stim-free.

Both = ROCK :cool:

[sensei101]

but isnt glycergrow a + to a stack..not a product to get you pumped but to deliver better pumps when mixed with stuff?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Well i have tried both Intrabolic and Purplewrath.

I cannot yet give a TRUE 100% comparison because when i tried PW it was the first time i used my WF and GreenMag as well, so i was really jacked at the gym, but i dont know if it was because my body was getting used to the WF or because it was due to the PW.

I DID however try Intrabolic today, and i can honestly say, i did not feel the same effect as i did with PW. I even switched out my Legs and Arms days because i wanted to really be able to shred my bi's and tri's at the gym today with my new intrabolic, and sadly i was let down.

It may work with some people, but it did not give me the same feeling i got with the PW. But agian, it coulda been that it wasnt the PW that gave me that rush the first time around, it may have been the bodies low tolerance for a new pre-wo stack.

I would like to try another PW sample so i can give a fair comparison, and probably buy a tub.

Im not saying INtrabolic is a bad product, it just didnt give me what i hoped for.
bb.com still has free samples. thanks for your feedback

so its a powder that makes other stuff work better? why not just add it to say WHITE flood? 241 typa deal
many people do stack them with great results.

but isnt glycergrow a + to a stack..not a product to get you pumped but to deliver better pumps when mixed with stuff?it works fine alone, but works amazing when combined with a creatine product

[RyanGrob]

Seriously, this is an INTRA WORKOUT SUPPLEMENT thread. Can we take other questions to PM's or perhaps the search function on the board?

I've used PW/IntrAbolic/Xtend and found IntrAbolic works best FOR ME. Individual results may vary as with any supplement.

[pu12en12g]

but isnt glycergrow a + to a stack..not a product to get you pumped but to deliver better pumps when mixed with stuff?

This is what you can expect:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6037731

[Chococat]

PW no question.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

PW no question.

glad you are enjoying purple wraath, which flavor have you been using?

[raysurz]

I've been using nothing but Purple Wraath, love everything about it except about an hour after I take it comes this weird aftertaste, but I got used to it.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've been using nothing but Purple Wraath, love everything about it except about an hour after I take it comes this weird aftertaste, but I got used to it.

thanks for the feedback, glad its working well for you. which flavor do you have?

[Carlito99]

For intra-workout, this is what I've found to be best for me from what I've tried so far...

4 scoops Scivation Xtend
5 grams creatine monohydrate
5 grams beta alanine

To sum up, I choose Scivation Xtend :)

[raysurz]

thanks for the feedback, glad its working well for you. which flavor do you have?

Purple Lemonade. The aftertaste isn't a huge issue since PW works for me so well.

[sensei101]

bb.com still has free samples. thanks for your feedback

many people do stack them with great results.
it works fine alone, but works amazing when combined with a creatine product

im so lost on this thign lol..I cant get it clear on what it is..NO or what! some people take it intra some dont some do this some do that...

[Blue Blazer]

I've taken both Xtend and Purple Wraath and imo they are both great, but Purple Wraath wins because it has Beta-Alanine and a solid EAA profile, you feel like a million bucks

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Purple Lemonade. The aftertaste isn't a huge issue since PW works for me so well.I love the purple lemonade as well.


im so lost on this thign lol..I cant get it clear on what it is..NO or what! some people take it intra some dont some do this some do that...
recovery and endurance, stim free and no NO ;)

I've taken both Xtend and Purple Wraath and imo they are both great, but Purple Wraath wins because it has Beta-Alanine and a solid EAA profile, you feel like a million bucks

sounds good. :)

[or_yourlivingtodie]

I love the purple lemonade as well.


recovery and endurance, stim free and no NO ;)


sounds good. :)

i have uno issue with PW...

gives you some bad breath

but then again
my buddy uses watermelon extend and he smells like a mix between a jolly rancher and ass

[sensei101]

only issue with intra drinks is carrying the bottle around..Sometimes its nice but sometimes its annoying...thats why I like to take my stuff and go to the gym hands free.

[DaveGabe24]

Seriously, this is an INTRA WORKOUT SUPPLEMENT thread. Can we take other questions to PM's or perhaps the search function on the board?

I've used PW/IntrAbolic/Xtend and found IntrAbolic works best FOR ME. Individual results may vary as with any supplement.

Thanks for the support man...says quite a bit considering you've tried em all :cool:

[or_yourlivingtodie]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/nikeman24677/funnypicturesredbullcat.jpg

[sensei101]

recovery and endurance, stim free and no NO ;)




but why does it increase pumps and vascualrity then? to the point that people get scared to keep going lol

[Beast2Be]

This is a joke right :confused:

Intrabolic FTMFW! :D

[headinahole]

but why does it increase pumps and vascualrity then? to the point that people get scared to keep going lol

I don't know where you heard that, I get zero pumps/vascularity from the purple draank.

[sensei101]

sorry should have quoted him once..I ment Glycer Grow...

[DaveGabe24]

This is a joke right :confused:

Intrabolic FTMFW! :D

well put :cool:

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I don't know where you heard that, I get zero pumps/vascularity from the purple draank.

nor should you, its not for those purposes ;)

[MBSowards]

Just thought I'd drop by here. IntrAbolic citrus is slightly better than apple imo...

Neither are perfect but both are good enough.

The best suggestion I have is:

Buy both and that way you won't get tired of one or the other.

[Peter LeDrew]

Just thought I'd drop by here. IntrAbolic citrus is slightly better than apple imo...

Neither are perfect but both are good enough.

The best suggestion I have is:

Buy both and that way you won't get tired of one or the other.

Great point mixing up flavors each time... I actually go back to apple at times and enjoy it more that way.

add Lemon Lime Gatorade to the citrus ice and you won't be sorry you did. Loving it everytime now.

[MBSowards]

Great point mixing up flavors each time... I actually go back to apple at times and enjoy it more that way.

add Lemon Lime Gatorade to the citrus ice and you won't be sorry you did. Loving it everytime now.

Good idea, I'll try that out for sure.

[asalways]

If you had to pick just ONE intra-workout product to take DURING YOUR WORKOUT, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take intra-workout products, if you should take intra-workout products, or why some intra-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite intra-workout product and give your detailed reason.)
What is the benefit of taking Intra-supplements. Plain water during workout is the best bet. Is it something as an extra benefit. Could someone please specify?

[CharleyDC5]

Controlled Labs Purple Wraath is a pretty decent product.

I use it for intra-workout and it rocks big time !

You can get a free sample here :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple.html

G'day

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Controlled Labs Purple Wraath is a pretty decent product.

I use it for intra-workout and it rocks big time !

You can get a free sample here :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/purple.html

G'day
glad you like it, which flavor are you taking?

[jarrrrrrryd]

PURPLE WRAAAAAAAAAAATH.

intrabolic costs too much, they should sell a bigger tub.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

PURPLE WRAAAAAAAAAAATH.

intrabolic costs too much, they should sell a bigger tub.

glad you like it, which flavor are you currently using?

[asalways]

glad you like it, which flavor are you taking?
What is the benefit of taking Intra-Workout Supplements. How does Purple Wrath help in workout other than pre-workout shake. Any answers.

[jarrrrrrryd]

glad you like it, which flavor are you currently using?

lemonade.. soooooo good. what do u prefer, grape or lemonade?

[jarrrrrrryd]

What is the benefit of taking Intra-Workout Supplements. How does Purple Wrath help in workout other than pre-workout shake. Any answers.

i like taking the pw intra workout because it gives me heaps more energy and just drinking water (expecially if you drink alot during ur workout) gets really boring.

get pw you wont be dissapointed :)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

What is the benefit of taking Intra-Workout Supplements. How does Purple Wrath help in workout other than pre-workout shake. Any answers.
it will help with endurance and recovery. you can get a free sample from bb.com to experience it for yourself :)

lemonade.. soooooo good. what do u prefer, grape or lemonade?

awesome, theya re both great, but right now I am on lemonade too :)

[fischetti]

What is the benefit of taking Intra-supplements. Plain water during workout is the best bet. Is it something as an extra benefit. Could someone please specify?

I also think Intra supplements are not needed, i think its taking supplementation a bit to far.

[jarrrrrrryd]

I also think Intra supplements are not needed, i think its taking supplementation a bit to far.

i dont think intra workout supplements are NEEDED but i would rather it than a nitric oxide supplement. I used to take superpump but i havnt used it in a while because i find pw gives me enough energy for my workout :)

id rather it over a pre workout supp anyday

[DaveGabe24]

I also think Intra supplements are not needed, i think its taking supplementation a bit to far.

Not many supplements are "needed", hence them being SUPPLEMENTS. However, they are able to help your workouts maintain a consistent level of intensity day in and day out. IntrAbolic has a ton of benefits, and obviously it works or there wouldn't be so many veterans on this board supporting AEN :cool:

[Universal Rep]

What is the benefit of taking Intra-supplements. Plain water during workout is the best bet. Is it something as an extra benefit. Could someone please specify?

There is research that shows that solid intraworkout nutrition, even in a "fed state", can enhance protein synthesis during resistance training (lifting).

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I also think Intra supplements are not needed, i think its taking supplementation a bit to far.

why pick intra? why not pre or post?

[JTFisher79]

I am all about the purple wraath during my work out. Pre is wf/gm. Love that tingly feeling

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I am all about the purple wraath during my work out. Pre is wf/gm. Love that tingly feeling

thats the potent triple stack, what flavors are you sporting? :)

[JTFisher79]

electric lemonade for wf, sour green apple for green mag and grape for pw. I can't say enough great things about this stack

[rukkus]

Right now I'm taking PW (electric lemonade) as my intra and so far it's definitely worth the cash. I go to the gym immediately after my day at the office and am usually pretty drained by that time. Before I started taking the PW I was struggling to get through my entire session, but now I don't even want to stop. Soreness has gone down considerably as well. I've been taking it about 3 weeks.

A+

I will totally be buying it again once I run out.

My friend is taking intrabolic right now, so we'll probably swap scoops a couple days to see which we prefer.

[BBingGuru]

SizeOn.
I love it!
I have only been using it for about 5 work outs so far, Ill let you know how it is after this cycle.

[itsgroll]

for all those who take a pre NO supp and an intra supp: dont you get bloated with all the water consumption? i mean just sucking down 20oz of white flood i get a little bloated

[entelechy]

for all those who take a pre NO supp and an intra supp: dont you get bloated with all the water consumption? i mean just sucking down 20oz of white flood i get a little bloated

what he said...

anyone in here heard of Max Full-Blown Extreme? Its produced by MaxMuscle in california. you can get it online. never had anything better. only mixes with 10 oz and more of a rush than any pre i have ever taken. it is a NO and has Kre-Alkalyn (buffered creatine).

try it if your looking for something new.

[Universal Rep]

for all those who take a pre NO supp and an intra supp: dont you get bloated with all the water consumption?

It's one reason I prefer Animal Pump--pills. I'll be running Pump with the new Intra-Aid.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

for all those who take a pre NO supp and an intra supp: dont you get bloated with all the water consumption? i mean just sucking down 20oz of white flood i get a little bloated

you need a ton of water anyway, so whats the difference if its mixed with your supp or plain?

[or_yourlivingtodie]

for all those who take a pre NO supp and an intra supp: dont you get bloated with all the water consumption? i mean just sucking down 20oz of white flood i get a little bloated

lollllllllllllllllllll
water doesnt bloat me at all

[rukkus]

My friend is taking intrabolic right now, so we'll probably swap scoops a couple days to see which we prefer.

so we swapped scoops today and i wasn't overly impressed with the energy, but it's possible it was just because i really wiped myself out yesterday. the flavor he had, citrus ice, was quite possibly the worst thing i've ever tasted. i'd liken it to a glass of orangina that had been thrown up and then drank again.

[beast69]

so we swapped scoops today and i wasn't overly impressed with the energy, but it's possible it was just because i really wiped myself out yesterday. the flavor he had, citrus ice, was quite possibly the worst thing i've ever tasted. i'd liken it to a glass of orangina that had been thrown up and then drank again.

the taste grows on you...at least it did for me. Sorry to hear you didn't like it. How much water did you mix it with?

Also, keep in mind that these products aren't designed to give you energy in the way that a caffeinated (or other) pre-workout product would. They can, however, help to improve recovery times, as well as increase endurance due to the beta-alanine content :cool:

[rukkus]

around 20oz. of cold water + a handful of ice cubes. i take a scoop of superpump for my caffeine burst to get me going and then my PW usually keeps me energized throughout the routine. i'm sure i'd get similar results with intrabolic on a better day. i'll just have to hold my nose when i drink it ;)

[Peter LeDrew]

around 20oz. of cold water + a handful of ice cubes. i take a scoop of superpump for my caffeine burst to get me going and then my PW usually keeps me energized throughout the routine. i'm sure i'd get similar results with intrabolic on a better day. i'll just have to hold my nose when i drink it ;)

Use less water for one (keeps the sweetness in) and if you still do not enjoy it, pick up some cheap lemon lime gatorade which also adds some simple carbs and more electrolytes... I cannot believe the difference this makes to IntrAbolic Citrus Ice for me... my friends all say the same. It is VERY good this way. Even half a scoop works if carbs sensitive.

Do try and tell us!

[rukkus]

i'll give it a shot one day next week, thanks :)

[devo09]

are there any studies showing a benefit of intra-workout supplementation with adequete pre/post nutrition/supplementation?

[Peter LeDrew]

i'll give it a shot one day next week, thanks :)

Great news rukkus! I'm sure you'll enjoy!

[devo09]

are there any studies showing a benefit of intra-workout supplementation with adequete pre/post nutrition/supplementation?

???

[sensei101]

theres a study saying your ****ing jacked and you should stick with w.e ur doing cuz it works!

[jarrrrrrryd]

lmao

[ICF]

Xtend + Bulk Beta Alanine

[Universal Rep]

are there any studies showing a benefit of intra-workout supplementation with adequete pre/post nutrition/supplementation?

I'm only familiar with one study at this time which looks at intraworkout supplementation of PRO/CHO in a "fed" state and with some preworkout nutrition. I can't say if this is "adequate" or not though, as I'm not sure how you would define that. There could likely be other studies, but I just know of this one.

[devo09]

I'm only familiar with one study at this time which looks at intraworkout supplementation of PRO/CHO in a "fed" state and with some preworkout nutrition. I can't say if this is "adequate" or not though, as I'm not sure how you would define that. There could likely be other studies, but I just know of this one.

ya i just kinda figured it was splitting hairs, seems kinda unneccesary to need something intraworkout unless your working out in a fasted state

[Universal Rep]

ya i just kinda figured it was splitting hairs, seems kinda unneccesary to need something intraworkout unless your working out in a fasted state

You're not wrong, D. For many, it might well be splitting hairs. That said though, the evidence def suggess that a good intraworkout supp can be of benefit even in the context of pre-workout nutrition or supplementation.