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I am in my early 30's and am planning on doing my third cycle in three years. Currently I am 187 lbs. at 6'1", this is the lightest I have been in ten years. I have also been lifting for about 10 years. It is on and off for me with work and a family, but after summer I have more time to get back to the gym. Which after a couple of months I seem to plateo and need help pushing to that next level. Over the years I have used creatine and protein to help. Currently I am not using any supps. Before summer I did a bold/testabolan stack, 6oxo pct. I had good results in strength, vascularity and stamina, only gained about 5 pounds, went to 197. It work well for me I topped all my personal bests. But after the cycle I lost weight, went down to 185, been between there and 188, like I said before I haven't been this light for years. I did lean out a little but lost muscle mass also. The previous year I took finigenx magnum/nitrix and pct was nolvadex xt. Went from 192 to 202 lbs. And kept most of the gains until summer where I work too many hours. But still stayed around 195.
So I am trying to find the best cycle. I know everybody always looking for the best but any input would be great. I have been searching the site for awhile and have some ideas. But am looking for something that might help a 33 year old push past his plateau. And like I said before I like to do only one a year so I want to make it count.
Colin O'Malley
07-27-2008, 10:07 AM
Havoc.
It has been tested by a third party and found to contain the legit active,unlike many other PH's being currently pushed onto the market and it has a good safety profile,compared to other methylated orals like Pheraplex clones and so on.Even at 20 mg of Havoc (empty stomach is ideal as far as dosing time) I had a decent recomp and strength gains were huge.
I would get some Sesathin or Sesamin and NOW's milk thistle for liver protection with 6-OXO for PCT.Regarding PCT,I've found that using The Size,as it potentiates the anabolic effect of food through non-steroidiol avenues,eases the transition of PCT a good deal and helps to maintain gains.
Edit:
Glucosamine would also be helpful in easing joint discomfort,as would Super Cissus RX,which is available in bulk powder form at a fraction of the capped price.
workingatit46
07-27-2008, 11:00 AM
I agree that Havoc would also be a good cycle for you. I would go a little more on the support supps may want to lookinto Cycle Support it should be pre-loaded 10 days before the cycle and run throughout the cycle. It helps with liver protection, Blood pressure and prostate protection.
PCT the is OTC product that was developed for this type of compound by the sinner it is Post Cycle Support this with some 6 oxo should work well for a pct. I am going to include a link to OTC PCT and some studies on the ingredents of Cycle Support and Post Cycle Support. I wish you the best and let me know if you need any help.
http://www.otcpct.com/
Cycle Support ingredents
Policosonol http://www.integranutrition.com/policosanol-sheet.html
NAC http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/nacandglut.html
Milk Thistle http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/silymarin/NS_patient-milkthistle
Red Yeast Rice http://altmedicine.about.com/od/herbsupplementguide/a/redyeastrice.htm
Celery Seed Extract http://www.myhealthmybody.com/trellis/ADM4515%20Celery%20Seed
Nettle Root http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/PrintablePages/herbMonograph/0,11475,552474,00.html
Idebenone http://intelegen.com/nutrients/idebenone_the_ultimate_anti.htm
Saw Palmetto http://www.medicinenet.com/saw_palmetto/article.htm
Post Cycle Support Ingredents
Trans-Resveratrol http://www.biosynergy.com/ctresveratrol.htm
Quercetin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercetin
Epimedium http://www.ironmagazine.com/review21.html
Piperidine http://www.cancer.gov/Templates/drugdictionary.aspx?CdrID=440023
Benefits of Trans-Resveratrol http://www.mdidea.com/products/herbextract/resveratrol/data.html#03
CROWLER
07-27-2008, 03:42 PM
I gotta go with the Havoc/Epistane cycle as well.
That is what I used I was very pleased with it and I will run it again I liked it so much.
I also used Cycle Support and POST Cycle Support and will use them again.
CROWLER
workingatit46
07-27-2008, 07:27 PM
Good info Bro!!!
Thanks bro we want everyone to be as safe as possible on cycles.
Thanks for the reply's. I have a couple of questions. Havoc/Epistane are the same compounds correct? And is anybody here not a anabolic rep?
Would anything else be a good addition to the havoc?
workingatit46
07-28-2008, 06:52 AM
Thanks for the reply's. I have a couple of questions. Havoc/Epistane are the same compounds correct? And is anybody here not a anabolic rep?
Would anything else be a good addition to the havoc?
Hi bro yes Havoc and Epi are the exact same compound and you really would not need to add anything to them best of luck.