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Johnny-Law
07-14-2008, 08:35 PM
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HOW I AM GOING TO TEST OMNIBOLIC
I am going to try and lean out while taking OMNIBOLIC and see how much muscle tissue I can hold on to. I will take my measurements and weight and see how many inches I can loose while monitoring my weight on the scale!
CHECK BACK SOON AS I WILL HAVE A VERIETARY OF VIDEOS FOR YOUR AMUSMENT WHILE THE TESTING PROCEDS
CHEERS
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THANK'S TO ROSS AND ALL THE OTHER GUYS AT SSE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY :)
Johnny-Law
07-14-2008, 08:40 PM
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I broke open a cap and you could definitely taste the Citrulline Malate, but then the other three ingredients hit you with the after taste! The powder is very fine and there appears to be no contamination. The raw materials do not taste that good, but SSE could just make a Pink Lemonade flavored powder and it would taste great. There were exactly 150 caps in the container which is great as I usually get ripped of by companies! Two thumbs up :)
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Johnny-Law
07-14-2008, 08:45 PM
Hear is some info on Citrulline Malate for those that do not know:
Citrulline Malate
Citrulline, although a non-essential amino acid, is not widely abundant in our daily diet. However, it plays a vital role in many important biological processes.
1. Increased NO Production
Of specific interest to all of us athletes in the trenches is it's role of regulating Nitric Oxide (NO). I mention this first only because the sport nutrition industry has been recently flooded with NO potentiating products comprised of L-Arginine and / or other Arginine salts, which until this day have been the most cost effective manner in improving NO function. It is well known in the scientific community that L-Arginine is a substrate for production of Nitric Oxide2, as well as catalyst for other metabolic reactions including its effects on insulin, various hormones and creatine synthesis.3
(The NO synthase (NOS) enzymes convert Arginine into Citrulline and NO)
So what is NO and what can it do for you? Nitric oxide is the cell-sign****g molecule that has a part in regulating blood flow, oxygen delivery, glucose uptake, muscle firepower, and muscle growth. Obviously the ability to control these physiological effects can be of tremendous value to athletes.
Unfortunately I think many of the companies currently marketing NO products are missing the boat by not including Citrulline Malate in the current crop of NO supplements. You see, many of Citrulline's functions stem primarily from its ability to increase plasma levels of Arginine endogenously (in the human body).4 And what is really so exciting about Citrulline is that it seems to increase plasma Arginine levels better than taking the amino acid Arginine itself.5 You read correctly!
Research has shown that supplementation of Citrulline raises Arginine levels more effectively than taking the same dose of straight Arginine. Keep in mind that Citrulline Malate's NO enhancing properties are just one of the unique benefits this nutrient offers to athletes. And if the enhanced pumps and improved nutrient delivery properties are the reason you are using Arginine based NO products, you need to pay attention to Citrulline Malate.
2. Reduces Lactic Acid and Ammonia
Here is something else you need to know about Citrulline... it is an intermediate in the Urea Cycle. The Urea Cycle is a system in the liver of carrier molecules and enzymes that convert nitrogenous wastes into urea and eliminates them from the body. The production and removal of urea is essential for the elimination of ammonia and toxic nitrogen metabolites. Ammonia is extremely toxic to all cells and excessive levels may even be fatal. Even in healthy athletes, the build up of ammonia can lead to extreme fatigue and more.6 It also reduces glycogen formation, and inhibits the energy cycle. Obviously this is what every athlete wants to avoid!
Unfortunately all exercise, anaerobic and aerobic exercise produces tons of this stuff.7 Ammonia also forms when bacteria in the intestinal tract breaks down protein. The point is that the more ammonia in your blood, the poorer your athletic performance.8 Citrulline Malate comes to the rescue once again by aiding in the elimination of amino acid byproducts of protein metabolism. Researchers also purpose that Citrulline Malate may help to eliminate the burn associated with lactic acid build up as well as reduce the negative effects of ammonia and bacterial endo toxins on performance. Demonstrations also show Citrulline Malate as having a protective effect against acidosis and ammonnia poisoning.12 The metabolic actions of Citrulline Malate clearly explain the anti-fatigue properties in man and shows great promise to its uses as a performance enhancer for athletes.
The Urea cycle splits Arginine into Ornithine and Urea. The urea is excreted as a waste product. Citrulline is synthesized from the Ornithine and carbamoyl phosphate. Citrulline is then converted back to Arginine.
SupremeSE
07-14-2008, 08:48 PM
I really look forward to this one!! Thanks for the details my man!
Oddball8945
07-14-2008, 08:49 PM
lota red in this log :)
Johnny-Law
07-14-2008, 09:06 PM
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The active anabolic ingredient in Omnibolic is the known steroid, Ecdysterone.
Imported directly from Russia, the Ecdysterone in this product is extracted from Rhaponticum carthamoides and is guaranteed to be 98% (or higher) pure. This (and only this) remarkable plant extract, (at this potency), has been proven in numerous clinical studies to be more anabolic than methandrostenolone (Dianabol), with no androgenic or other undesirable side effects. Omnibolic is a non-hormonal dietary supplement that will cause a huge increase in anabolism but will not effect hormone levels.
Omnibolic works by increasing nitrogen retention and increasing protein synthesis at the cellular level (for this reason we strongly recommend that you increase your daily dietary intake of protein while using this product). It has been scientifically proven, without a doubt, that increased nitrogen retention and resistance training will stimulate muscle growth and burn fat as much as 20 times more effective than without the increase in nitrogen retention caused by ecdysterone supplementation.
The Russian ingredients in Omnibolic have also been clinically proven to increase in strength and endurance. This is the same exact ingredient that the Russian government gave to its athletes prior to competitions in order to optimize performance while coming off anabolic steroids to beat doping tests. Strangely enough, many Russian athletes performed better in competition while using Ecdysterone than they did in preparation while on anabolic steroids.
If you are wondering why you have never heard of Ecdysterone before it is because this information has been somewhat classified until the collapse of the Soviet Union and since then it has been way too expensive (over $20,000 a kilo) to bring real Ecdysterone from Rhaponticum carthamoides to market. UNTIL NOW!
This is the first time ever that this material is being made available and you have our guarantee that nothing you have ever tried will work better than Omnibolic for adding lean muscle mass. Because Omnibolic is a non-hormonal supplement it can be safely used by both men and women. The Ecdysterone in this product is Ecdypure TM material, guaranteed to be 98% or higher pure Ecdysterone. Omnibolic will not cause a positive test result for any banned or controlled substance. Omnibolic is a 100% safe and legal dietary supplement.
Ecdysterone has also been shown to be an adaptogen. This basically means that it has other physiological advantages in addition to increasing muscular development. Part of the advantage of this product includes an increase in mental, physical and immunological capacity. The pioneer studies were conducted by Professor Vladimir Syrov of the Research Institute of Plant Substance of Chemistry, Academy of Science of Uzbekistan, and specifically proved that the ecdysterone derived from Rhaponticum carthamoides possessed anabolic properties in both animals and humans. His original work was done primarily with Rhaponticum carthamoides.
6-Keto Diosgenin (25R-Spirost-4-ene-3,6-diol)
Dr. Syrov and Dr. A.J. Kurmukov published a study entitled, "The Experimental Study of the Anabolic Activities of the 6-Keto Derivatives of Some Natural Sapogenins", in which they analyzed the various sterol compounds from these plant sources. They found several adaptogens in addition to the beta-ecdysterone, including agigenin, disogenin and alliogenin, all of which displayed further anabolic activity, but none of which displayed androgenic properties. This basically means that this group of sapogenins do not have any influence in elevating or decreasing the testosterone levels of the person taking them. This is precisely what the Russians wanted, since they were having several of the world class athletes fail urine tests in international competition because they were taking synthetic steroids. What Dr. Syrov and his colleagues further showed was a dramatic improvement in liver, kidney, heart and muscular activity, and a dramatic increase in the total amount of protein found within these organs. In other words, there is an increase in protein synthesis in all of the major organs of the body, including muscular tissue, with no effect on the hormonal activity of the body. This is remarkable and exciting because it thus poses no threat to the individual in terms of toxicity and/or the capacity to increase existing cancers. As a matter of fact, several South American physicians have used this compound extensively to battle cancer and even a very difficult disease known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, which is normally considered to be a viral infection.
How Does Ecdysterone Work?
In each cell there are 3 forms of ribonucleic acid (RNA) which are involved in the production of protein. All of this protein synthesis occurs at the level of the ribosome. Basically, the process involves 3 states:
1. Ribosomal RNA (rRNA) gives instructions to the poly-ribosomal complex to join together specific ribosomes into forming a complex (group). This is the manufacturing facility where the proteins and muscle tissue are formed.
2. Messenger RNA (mRNA) travels from the nucleus where it has received the specific genetic code on how to make a specific protein. This is very much like a reel-to-reel tape going through a computer in which specific instructions are being given at an extremely rapid rate. The mRNA travels into the poly-ribosomal complex and runs across the ribosomes, giving specific instructions which result in exact sequences of the 22 different amino acids being placed together to form a specific protein (muscle).
3. Transfer RNA (tRNA) then move the amino acids to the ribosomes so as to allow the mRNA tape to hook up the individual amino acids to form the polypeptides (protein chains).
Realize that the Russian and Japanese scientists determined the specific location of Ecdysterone's actions were at the level at which the transfer RNA translates amino acids into proteins at the ribosomes. Thus, Ecdysterone increases the rate at which proteins are manufactured. Synthetic steroids affect the instructions from the nucleus, called transcription. This can pose a problem in that, if one has hormonally sensitive cancer, it can increase the rate of cancer growth within the body. Ecdysterone, on the other hand, affects the translation of amino acids into protein, which does not influence the rate of growth of cancers. This makes the Ecdysterone products totally safe, having no effect on the hormonal levels of the body. Researchers have proven that beta-ecdysterone has no side effects, except that it improves liver function, kidney function, heart function, muscle size and physical performance. Because of the other sapogenins within the herbal complex there may even be other medicinal benefits which can help an individual, such as anti-viral, anti-bacterial and immune stimulating properties.
Johnny-Law
07-14-2008, 09:07 PM
lota red in this log :)
Patrick Arnold's gunes got me
Johnny-Law
07-14-2008, 09:25 PM
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I Got My Game On With The Scientific Studies
Ecdysterone has been tested for its effects on work capacity, immune function, lean body mass and fat loss, among other variables in a number of scientific studies. The vast majority of research indicates an increase in test subjects' lean mass. Results were further improved when ecdysterone was consumed with protein.
Increase Protein Synthesis and Invoke Positive Nitrogen Balance:
Studies conducted in the Soviet Union in 1988 showed ecdysterone helps "increase hepatic protein synthesis and subsequently promote positive nitrogen balance!" How does this lead to more muscle mass? Simply: "the more nitrogen your body maintains and the greater rate of protein synthesis, the more mass, period." How, exactly, does ecdysterone do this?
V. Smetanin, researcher of the Smolenk State Medical Institute in Russia speculates that ecdysterone decreases urea concentration in the body and increases hemoglobin levels by increasing a process called erythropoiesis. Erythropoiesis is the development of mature red blood cells. This leads to a stimulation of the anabolic process in protein metabolism, which in turn leads to a positive nitrogen balance in the body.
Increase Lean Muscle Mass While Reducing Body Fat:
The most often quoted ecdysterone scientific study was published in Scientific Sports Bulletin by S. Simakin in 1988. The objective of Simakin's famous study was to determine the effect of ecdysterone on muscle tissue mass and fat mass, while testing for hormonal changes in the subjects.
For the study, three control factors were used: a placebo, protein, and ecdysterone with protein. The results were significantly in favor of the third factor. Of the 78 highly trained male and female athletes who consumed just protein, they showed only a slight increase in muscle mass for the 10 day period of time.
Those who used a placebo lost a slight amount of lean muscle, while those who used protein plus ecdysterone showed a 6-7% increase in lean muscle tissue with nearly a 10% reduction in fat! Let me say that again: A 10% reduction in fat and a 7% increase in lean muscle tissue in just 10 days! Safety testing was conducted during the same time period which showed no difference in hormonal balance. Wow, if ecdysterone plus protein can do this for highly trained athletes, just think what it can do for the average person!
Increase Stamina, Endurance, And Energy:
Ecdysterone was tested in another study performed in 1986 by B.Ya Smetanin. For this research, 117 highly trained speed skaters between the ages of 18 and 28 were tested for work capacity, body weight, lung capacity and VO2 max. The results speak for themselves: all of the said parameters increased as well as an increase in the O2 pulse max and an increase in the exhalation of CO2.
Basically, they received more oxygen to their cells! This equates to decreasing recovery time, maximizing performance, permitting optimal muscle anabolism and maximum fat reduction. It also means the athletes using ecdysterone compared to those on a placebo experienced increased stamina, endurance and energy.
That's not all! A study conducted using 112 athletes performed by B.G. Fadeev in Russia showed some very impressive overall results. However, by this time, the results should come as no surprise. 89% of those who supplemented with ecdysterone versus a placebo reported less fatigue, greater performance, more motivation, greater speed, and improved strength. How long did it take before these athletes reported these effects? Months? Weeks? No, five days. To make matters even better, no adverse side effects were reported.
Johnny-Law
07-14-2008, 10:06 PM
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I am really glad that there is 2.0g of Citrulline Malate per serving. When you take 2 servigns a day you ingest a wopping 4.0g of Citrulline Malate! This is way more than what most companies offer and will Jack You All Up :)
_J-BONE_
07-15-2008, 06:33 AM
Your review would be taken more seriously if it did not read as an advertisement for Omnibolic. Though I do appreciate the effort, it doesn't help SSE when you review a product exactly as Ross used to market his.
Let the results do the selling and the product will have no problems. I would suggest deleting this thread and starting over in a more subtle fashion bc I really don't see people liking this very much.
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 07:56 AM
Your review would be taken more seriously if it did not read as an advertisement for Omnibolic. Though I do appreciate the effort, it doesn't help SSE when you review a product exactly as Ross used to market his.
Let the results do the selling and the product will have no problems. I would suggest deleting this thread and starting over in a more subtle fashion bc I really don't see people liking this very much.
Thanks, but I just started my review to day! The product takes some time to work so I can not post the usual tingling/mixability/taste/pump and all the other stuff. Also I did not review the product at all like Ross, his information is a company write up, not a review! I posted his write up in order so people could get the best information from the man him self :) Everybody likes videos so I posted some as well, as it can not be all business and no fun. All the popular reviews have videos, images and so on. Also, as a REP, you should not wrote your post with so much negativity in it, as it will bring more negativity form everyone else! You should delete your last paragraph and just forwarded anything like it as a PM in the future as it is not professional.
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 08:02 AM
Day 1
I took 5 caps in the morning as soon as I woke up and will take my second dosage 1/2 an hour before training. The caps are the standard 1g easy to swallow verity. I will be following the Advanced German Volume Training for this workout! Advanced GVT has you perform 10X5 using the same weight for all 10 sets of one exercise and then you pick another exercise and perform 3X6-8. I will report back with any new feelings from the product or gains in the weight room.
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_J-BONE_
07-15-2008, 08:17 AM
Thanks, but I just started my review to day! The product takes some time to work so I can not post the usual tingling/mixability/taste/pump and all the other stuff. Also I did not review the product at all like Ross, his information is a company write up, not a review! I posted his write up in order so people could get the best information from the man him self :) Everybody likes videos so I posted some as well, as it can not be all business and no fun. All the popular reviews have videos, images and so on. Also, as a REP, you should not wrote your post with so much negativity in it, as it will bring more negativity form everyone else! You should delete your last paragraph and just forwarded anything like it as a PM in the future as it is not professional.
I'm not officially a rep until I see some sort of paperwork, test the products, and feel that I could recommend them to others. Until then I won't expect any kind of compensation other than products to test.
Whether you think so or not, your review reads like an ad. The videos do not concern me but all the long literature on the products that everyone has seen before does. People don't want to wade through all the ingredients and the research in a review. 1 post's worth of that information would have sufficed just fine. They want to see taste, ease of swallowing, quality of caps, effects.
BTW..I liked that you broke apart the cap to look at the powder and the last post you made..
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 08:41 AM
Whether you think so or not, your review reads like an ad.
Look up the definition of an ad and then a sponsored review! They should be very similar when describing a product in the introductory stages!
The videos do not concern me but all the long literature on the products that everyone has seen before does.
Not everyone has seen it! Some are still PM'ing me about the one ingredient that I did not post anything on.
People don't want to wade through all the ingredients and the research in a review.
So they just want to read a review on a product, but do not want to know what is in it or how it works? I do not want to write a review for children. All they have to wade through is like 3 posts.
1 post's worth of that information would have sufficed just fine. They want to see taste, ease of swallowing, quality of caps, effects.
I already covered that and more, "except for the effects, as it takes a while to notice." I am just working on the traffic now.
BTW..I liked that you broke apart the cap to look at the powder and the last post you made..
Thanks
_J-BONE_
07-15-2008, 08:43 AM
Not going to argue with you anymore..learn how to take criticism.
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 09:12 AM
Not going to argue with you anymore..learn how to take criticism.
Didn't think we were arguing, just having a discussion! If you think it looks like a argument then I will pull my replies to you.
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 09:34 AM
I am heading out to the Gym so hear is one last video before I leave.
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UberBerzerker
07-15-2008, 10:10 AM
lota red in this log :)
any question now why there's so much RED up in here?
:D
*I'll be watching this log*
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 10:13 AM
any question now why there's so much RED up in here?
:D
*I'll be watching this log*
I will post a screen shot as to why
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 04:10 PM
I got back form the gym and felt extra strong, but that is just coincidence as the ingredients can not work that fast. I made my usual gain of 5 pounds on my Close Grip Benches and Cable Preacher Curls. Workout went great and I did not burp up the tast of Omnibolic during the workout. No GI problems with the high dosage of Citrulline Malate thus far.
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Stonecoldtruth
07-15-2008, 04:14 PM
What red?! :confused:
Androgen
07-15-2008, 04:17 PM
What red?! :confused:
Yeah dunno why the OP was in the red, I gave him a whopping 187 rep points because I couldnt see why..
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 04:21 PM
Thanks for the Green Guys, I rep back!
Stonecoldtruth
07-15-2008, 04:38 PM
I was trying to secretly rep you, you had to go blow up the spot yo!
Johnny-Law
07-15-2008, 09:35 PM
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Last one for the day! Worlds Strongest Man Final 2007 Deadlifting TWO CARS AT ONE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Johnny-Law
07-16-2008, 08:09 AM
Off day so I will just take 5 caps 1/2 before breakfast and the second dosage around 5:00PM. Hear is a video of the Fire Engine Truck Pull :)
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Johnny-Law
07-16-2008, 07:22 PM
Took my second dosage of 5 caps. Hear is a 1010lb bench
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Johnny-Law
07-16-2008, 07:44 PM
Hear are the 8 sites that I will be measuring with the skin calipers. I will not try to calculate my body fat percentage using them, but will just monitor how much each site is reduced by and add them up each week!
1. Abdominal
2. Triceps
3. Chest
4. Patella
5. Midaxillary
6. Subscapula
7. Suprailiac
8. Thigh
Johnny-Law
07-16-2008, 07:54 PM
I also found this information form Charles Poliquin. It looks interesting!
Chin & Cheek ? The first sites to go down during a diet. These sites aren't linked to any particular hormone imbalance.
Pectoral & Triceps ? The androgen sites. High pec readings in men in relation to the triceps can reflect an androgen/estrogen imbalance. Interestingly, Charles says a female who clocks in at less than 5mm on the triceps site is almost a shoe-in to be on AAS and likely rides a stationary bike as foreplay.
Suprailliac & Subscapular ? The insulin sites. These sites are related to blood sugar management. High readings here vs. the triceps may reflect poor insulin sensitivity and carb intolerance.
Mid-axillary ? This site is correlated to thyroid hormone levels. The lower the number, the better the thyroid.
Umbilical ? The much maligned cortisol site. It can be high despite low overall body fat.
Knee & Medial Calf ? These skinfolds are related to growth hormone. Interestingly, readings on the knee site tend to go up in the third and fourth week of a fat loss diet and then go back down.
Quadriceps & Hamstring ? High levels here vs. the triceps are correlated to high estrogen levels.
The balance of the seminar was spent identifying exactly where each site was and obtaining a correct skinfold pinch (not always an easy task!) Then for each site Charles suggested training, diet, and supplementation programs to implement when encountering an abnormally elevated skinfold. But Charles is prone to tangents, so there was a lot of additional info along the way:
SupremeSE
07-16-2008, 08:25 PM
Nice updates Johnny!
Johnny-Law
07-16-2008, 09:33 PM
Going to sleep late, sorry no video this time :(
Johnny-Law
07-17-2008, 10:23 AM
I am going to take my first dose 1/2 an hour before I train Legs to day. I will be performing the regular German Volume Training for legs to day. So I will be squatting 280X10X10 and using the leg curl for 140X10X10. You alternate between the exercise and only have 1 minuet rest intervals. I will then perform 7 sets of seated calf raises, but only do 3 reps. Each rep will take 10 seconds up and 10 seconds down so the time under tension will be 60 seconds per set:
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Johnny-Law
07-17-2008, 08:35 PM
Hurt my right leg during squats to day! It hurts about 3/4 of the way up and slightly outside of center. Had a great workout until then. I made a 5 pound gain on the squats and leg curls but it was like 10 degrees hotter in the gym to day so it felt like I made a greater improvement. Hear is a the 1984 Olympia video with Sergio Oliva
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Johnny-Law
07-17-2008, 10:16 PM
Nice updates Johnny!
Thanks, I will time how long it takes for the caps to dissolve in water next! Will red wine vinegar be similar to stomach acid?
Johnny-Law
07-18-2008, 01:16 PM
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I have two brouses and a dip in my leg so I did not train chest to day. I will wait till Sunday to train chest/back. So far no negative side effects from Omnibolic :)
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Johnny-Law
07-20-2008, 01:47 PM
I just finished chest and back and it went very well. I think I am finally feeling the effects of OmniBolic! I found out that if I take the second dosage to late in the day it keeps me up at night! Other than that that all is great. I used the extended 5's for chest and back.
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Johnny-Law
07-20-2008, 02:42 PM
This is the kind of Ecdy that is used in some other formulas.
http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/Leuzea.html
Omnibolic uses EcdyPure(99% Pure Ecdysterone derived from Rhaponticum Carthamoides)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attach...1&d=1215457684
Overall I like the higher quality EcdyPure. It is like comparing some cheap 9 dollars for 90 grams of Trib from Now Foods to Sopharma's 60 tabs for 40 dollar Tirb that comes out of Bulgaria! There is just no comparison!
SupremeSE
07-20-2008, 03:16 PM
This is the kind of Ecdy that is used in some other formulas.
http://www.anti-aging-guide.com/Leuzea.html
Omnibolic uses EcdyPure(99% Pure Ecdysterone derived from Rhaponticum Carthamoides)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attach...1&d=1215457684
Overall I like the higher quality EcdyPure. It is like comparing some cheap Trib to Sopharma in Bulgaria!
PERFECT ANALOGY!!
Johnny-Law
07-20-2008, 04:00 PM
^^^Yea, SSE's EcdyPure is like 5 times the cost for the raw material! It must be better if it costs 5 times more, other wise no manufacture would use it as it lowers their profit margins!
Johnny-Law
07-21-2008, 07:43 AM
I timed how long it took the capsule to dissolve in water. I will post my results shortly and would also like to try it in something more acidic. I found red wine vinegar in the house, would this work well? I have to head to work so sorry no video this time :(
Halosoccer24
07-22-2008, 07:24 AM
[center] I just finished chest and back and it went very well. I think I am finally feeling the effects of OmniBolic! I found out that if I take the second dosage to late in the day it keeps me up at night! Other than that that all is great. I used the extended 5's for chest and back.
It's good to hear that it kicked in quite early. It also helps to have a good amount of protein around the times that you take each serving.
Johnny-Law
07-22-2008, 08:02 AM
Hear are the results of testing how fast the capsules dissolve! It took 28 minuets in water before it opened up. I will try again in some Red Wine Vinegar, as it will more closely resemble stomach acid.
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o416/Johnny-Law/DCAM0074_edited.jpg
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Halosoccer24
07-22-2008, 08:47 AM
This is actually a pretty cool experiment. Although you are wasting some capsules it is providing some intresting info about it.
Johnny-Law
07-22-2008, 01:22 PM
This is actually a pretty cool experiment. Although you are wasting some capsules it is providing some intresting info about it.
I still took that cap though. I do not know about the red wine vinegar one, as I would imagine it tastes like crap!
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Halosoccer24
07-22-2008, 01:29 PM
[center] I still took that cap though. I do not know about the red wine vinegar one as I would imagine it tastes like crap!
Lol I probably would be man enough to take it either after it has been in water or red wine vinegar but yeah it would probably taste really bad after its been in the red wine vinegar.
Johnny-Law
07-22-2008, 07:29 PM
I took my second dosage after my workout and my first dosage as soon as I woke up so that I could fall asleep easily to night as I messed up yesterday and am tired now.
This guy is nuts 225X25 on the DB row :)
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Halosoccer24
07-22-2008, 07:59 PM
[center] I took my second dosage after my workout and my first dosage as soon as I woke up so that I could fall asleep easily to night as I messed up yesterday and am tired now.
Sounds good with the dosages as long as you get your protein. Any new updates on how the Omni has been going?
Johnny-Law
07-25-2008, 04:41 PM
I conducted another cap study using red wine vinegar and the cap dissolved really fast!! I will post my results soon! So far I really like the product! Hear is another video.
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Johnny-Law
08-03-2008, 05:47 PM
I used the red wine vinegar and it was under 15 minuets before the cap was gone! I did not even stir it and only used like 2 oz of red wine vinegar.:)
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Johnny-Law
08-03-2008, 09:46 PM
Hear is another video.
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Johnny-Law
08-04-2008, 10:02 PM
Going to sleep late, sorry no video this time :(
Johnny-Law
08-06-2008, 09:16 PM
I am going to move so I will need to take a short break from training and taking Omnibolic, so check back soon!
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Johnny-Law
08-07-2008, 11:42 AM
Any new question or comments about the product?
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Johnny-Law
08-08-2008, 05:06 PM
Motivation for back day! I will be taking 5 caps 30 minuets before the workout along with my Pyritinol!
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o416/Johnny-Law/image0041.jpg
Halosoccer24
08-08-2008, 05:09 PM
Motivation for back day! I will be taking 2 caps 30 minuets before the workout along with my Pyritinol!
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o416/Johnny-Law/image0041.jpg
Sounds good and glad to have you back doing the log. Also, if you are taking the full 10 tabs a day I would suggest using a full dose preworkout instead of only 2 because of the CM. Then take the other dose around the time you have a high protein meal or shake.
soundcheck129
08-08-2008, 05:12 PM
Good to see someone else is reaping the benefits of this product :D
Johnny-Law
08-08-2008, 05:31 PM
Sounds good and glad to have you back doing the log. Also, if you are taking the full 10 tabs a day I would suggest using a full dose preworkout instead of only 2 because of the CM. Then take the other dose around the time you have a high protein meal or shake.
Thanks for catching that, as I do take a full serving, but must have hit the wrong number key. Does the new version with a proprietary blend have the same amount of Edcypure?
Halosoccer24
08-08-2008, 06:52 PM
Thanks for catching that, as I do take a full serving, but must have hit the wrong number key. Does the new version with a proprietary blend have the same amount of Edcypure?
The new formula will have much more ecdysterone and as to your dosing, if you take one preworkout try to take the other one spaced out a bit from it but also with a good amount of protein.
Johnny-Law
08-09-2008, 09:30 PM
The new formula will have much more ecdysterone and as to your dosing, if you take one preworkout try to take the other one spaced out a bit from it but also with a good amount of protein.
Like double or less? Thanks!
BiGToMCaT28
08-09-2008, 09:43 PM
I'll be watching...
Johnny-Law
08-10-2008, 01:00 PM
Motivation for chest day! I will be taking 5 caps 30 minuets before the workout along with my Pyritinol! So far I am very pleased with the product as the last ecdy product I took was Prolabs version in the protein powder form when they sponsored Lee Preist and it did nothing!!
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warbird00
08-10-2008, 01:03 PM
u said u have run ecdy before, what doses were u taking?
Johnny-Law
08-10-2008, 01:33 PM
u said u have run ecdy before, what doses were u taking?
It was like 5 years ago and it was just in Prolabs protein. I do not remember how much it was, but it was most likley under 100mg per serving.
soundcheck129
08-10-2008, 01:43 PM
Motivation for chest day! I will be taking 5 caps 30 minuets before the workout along with my Pyritinol! So far I am very pleased with the product as the last ecdy product I took was Prolabs version in the protein powder form when they sponsored Lee Preist and it did nothing!!
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Glad to see you're seeing results, SSE makes great products, too bad people get too wrapped up in board drama to realize it.
Johnny-Law
08-10-2008, 05:50 PM
Glad to see you're seeing results, SSE makes great products, too bad people get too wrapped up in board drama to realize it.
Yea, I do not know why veryone is such a ass, but that is just the way it is. Just about ready to head out to the gym. I just wanted to post another
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Johnny-Law
08-10-2008, 10:08 PM
Chest and Back went very good to day. I just did 3X60 for each body part as it is my back off weak. The high reps help with capillary density.
Johnny-Law
08-14-2008, 03:16 PM
I started a new program by Chad Waterburry called Quatro Dynamo and it is very taxing on the CNS so Pyritinol/Omnibolic stack really helped this last workut. The good mornings went really easy, but I already feel sore!
Vogelpohl 2004 Show of Strength
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Halosoccer24
08-15-2008, 08:40 AM
Sorry I haven't posted here but its nice to see that you are still liking it. For the soreness maybe pickup some bulk taurine if you have the money.
Johnny-Law
08-15-2008, 09:12 AM
Sorry I haven't posted here but its nice to see that you are still liking it. For the soreness maybe pickup some bulk taurine if you have the money.
Thanks, which brand do you recommend?
Johnny-Law
08-15-2008, 03:30 PM
Just finished the workuot! All the explosive exercizes felt supper light to day except for the bench :( That always feels heavy. I decide to take my second dosage of Omnibolic with my post workout shake instead of later in the day.
Halosoccer24
08-15-2008, 03:32 PM
Thanks, which brand do you recommend?
Doesn't really matter, just a acknowleged brand you know of.
Just finished the workuot! All the explosive exercizes felt supper light to day except for the bench :( That always feels heavy. I decide to take my second dosage of Omnibolic with my post workout shake instead of later in the day.
Sounds like you may have gotten some strength increases which is always good.
Taking Omni with you pwo shake is always fine and I recommend it to put the Ecdy to work.
Johnny-Law
08-17-2008, 03:45 PM
Thanks allot for your adviece! I just finished the Strength part of my workout. It went great I was supper focused and had the best pump ever for such low reps.
Day 1 (Maximal Strength)
Sets: 5
Reps: 3
Rest: 60 seconds between antagonist supersets
Load: 5 rep max (The extra two reps are kept "in the hole" so you won't train to failure.)
Tempo: Perform concentric (lifting) fast; perform eccentric (lowering) under control.
Day 1
A1) Front Squat
Note: Use a high bar position on your traps, feet shoulder width, toes straight ahead, full ROM (range of motion).
A2) Lying Leg Curl
Note: Keep the toes pointed straight down throughout the movement; don?t let the hips lift off the pad.
B1) Barbell Bench Press
Note: Use a 24" grip width (that's 24 inches between the first fingers).
B2) Seated Cable Row
Note: Use a 24", palms-down grip.
C1) Standing Barbell Curl
Note: Use an 18" grip width (18 inches between pinky fingers).
C2) Reverse Grip Triceps Pressdown
Note: Use an 18", palms up grip.
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Halosoccer24
08-18-2008, 08:19 AM
Thanks allot for your adviece! I just finished the Strength part of my workout. It went great I was supper focused and had the best pump ever for such low reps.
Day 1 (Maximal Strength)
Sets: 5
Reps: 3
Rest: 60 seconds between antagonist supersets
Load: 5 rep max (The extra two reps are kept "in the hole" so you won't train to failure.)
Tempo: Perform concentric (lifting) fast; perform eccentric (lowering) under control.
Day 1
A1) Front Squat
Note: Use a high bar position on your traps, feet shoulder width, toes straight ahead, full ROM (range of motion).
A2) Lying Leg Curl
Note: Keep the toes pointed straight down throughout the movement; don?t let the hips lift off the pad.
B1) Barbell Bench Press
Note: Use a 24" grip width (that's 24 inches between the first fingers).
B2) Seated Cable Row
Note: Use a 24", palms-down grip.
C1) Standing Barbell Curl
Note: Use an 18" grip width (18 inches between pinky fingers).
C2) Reverse Grip Triceps Pressdown
Note: Use an 18", palms up grip.
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Looks like a good full-body routine there. Sorry I didn't post quicker to this but that looks pretty good.
seanf76
08-19-2008, 03:54 AM
Where is Ross????????????????????
java568
08-19-2008, 03:56 AM
Where is Ross????????????????????
He's perma-banned.
Johnny-Law
08-19-2008, 09:02 AM
I am not good at high reps so this was a hard workout! The Citrulline Malate should help with the high reps, but it was a hot day and I had a hard time knocking all the reps out. This is my least favorite out of the four workouts. the Pyritinol did not seem to help allot with the high reps as it has less to do with mental power and more to do with oxygen consumption stuff.
Day 2 (Endurance Strength)
Sets: 2
Reps: 25
Rest: 90 seconds between antagonist supersets
Load: 27RM
Tempo: Same as Day 1
Day 2
A1) Seated Behind the Neck Barbell Shoulder Press
Note: Use a 24" grip.
A2) Shoulder-Width Lat Pulldown
Note: Use a 24", palms up grip (24 inches between pinky fingers.)
B1) Barbell Back Squat
Note: Use the same positioning as in Day 1, but with your heels elevated on two 25-pound plates.
B2) Lying Leg Curl
Note: Use the same technique as Day 1.
C1) Seated Calf Raises
C2) Donkey Calf Raises
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Halosoccer24
08-20-2008, 08:15 AM
I am not good at high reps so this was a hard workout! The Citrulline Malate should help with the high reps, but it was a hot day and I had a hard time knocking all the reps out. This is my least favorite out of the four workouts. the Pyritinol did not seem to help allot with the high reps as it has less to do with mental power and more to do with oxygen consumption stuff.
Day 2 (Endurance Strength)
Sets: 2
Reps: 25
Rest: 90 seconds between antagonist supersets
Load: 27RM
Tempo: Same as Day 1
Day 2
A1) Seated Behind the Neck Barbell Shoulder Press
Note: Use a 24" grip.
A2) Shoulder-Width Lat Pulldown
Note: Use a 24", palms up grip (24 inches between pinky fingers.)
B1) Barbell Back Squat
Note: Use the same positioning as in Day 1, but with your heels elevated on two 25-pound plates.
B2) Lying Leg Curl
Note: Use the same technique as Day 1.
C1) Seated Calf Raises
C2) Donkey Calf Raises
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The CM must have helped get through some of the sets but since you have a hard time with high reps it probably couldn't help that much. Anyways, how are the gains coming?
Johnny-Law
08-20-2008, 02:10 PM
This workout went very well for the first half, but I think I had low blood suguar as I wanted to take a nap when I got home. The Pyritinol seemed to help the most with the hanging leg raises and good mornings. I took my first dose of Omnibolic with my post workout shake and will take the second dosage a few hours later with my high prtein solid food meal
Day 4 (Hypertrophy Strength)
Sets: 3
Reps: 8
Rest: 75 seconds between antagonist supersets
Load: 10RM
Tempo: Same as Day 1
Day 4
A1) Barbell Good Morning
Note: Keep the low back tight and arched. Flex the trunk forward at the hips as far as possible before losing your arch (this will depend on hamstring flexibility). Don?t flex the trunk forward any further than parallel to the floor.
A2) Hanging Leg Raise
Note: Hang from a bar and lift the legs until they're parallel to the floor.
B1) 45? Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
Note: Use a traditional grip with your palms facing away from you (i.e. pronated).
B2) Standing Upright Dumbbell Row
Note: Keep the elbows high; don't lift the dumbbells higher than your lower chest.
C1) Standing Barbell Reverse Curl
Note: Use an 18", palms down grip (18 inches between first fingers).
C2) Lying Barbell Triceps Extension (a.k.a. Skull Crusher)
Note: Use an 18" grip between first fingers.
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Halosoccer24
08-20-2008, 02:13 PM
This workout went very well for the first half, but I think I had low blood suguar as I wanted to take a nap when I got home. The Pyritinol seemed to help the most with the hanging leg raises and good mornings. I took my first dose of Omnibolic with my post workout shake and will take the second dosage a few hours later with my high prtein solid food meal
Day 4 (Hypertrophy Strength)
Sets: 3
Reps: 8
Rest: 75 seconds between antagonist supersets
Load: 10RM
Tempo: Same as Day 1
Day 4
A1) Barbell Good Morning
Note: Keep the low back tight and arched. Flex the trunk forward at the hips as far as possible before losing your arch (this will depend on hamstring flexibility). Don?t flex the trunk forward any further than parallel to the floor.
A2) Hanging Leg Raise
Note: Hang from a bar and lift the legs until they're parallel to the floor.
B1) 45? Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
Note: Use a traditional grip with your palms facing away from you (i.e. pronated).
B2) Standing Upright Dumbbell Row
Note: Keep the elbows high; don't lift the dumbbells higher than your lower chest.
C1) Standing Barbell Reverse Curl
Note: Use an 18", palms down grip (18 inches between first fingers).
C2) Lying Barbell Triceps Extension (a.k.a. Skull Crusher)
Note: Use an 18" grip between first fingers.
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Not a bad workout I like that routine. Maybe after the Citrulline is in your system you will wake up a bit. :) Good deal taking a dose with your shake.
Johnny-Law
08-20-2008, 06:52 PM
Not a bad workout I like that routine. Maybe after the Citrulline is in your system you will wake up a bit. :) Good deal taking a dose with your shake.
Thanks, I have been doing some more research on Ecdy and many studies used more for their elite athlets. Since Ecdypure is a better quality raw material, is that why a full dosing is less than 100mg per day?
Johnny-Law
08-20-2008, 07:06 PM
He's perma-banned.
Does perma mean permanent?
Halosoccer24
08-21-2008, 08:57 AM
Thanks, I have been doing some more research on Ecdy and many studies used more for their elite athlets. Since Ecdypure is a better quality raw material, is that why a full dosing is less than 100mg per day?
Usually studies don't use high extracts or even get the Ecdy from RC plants so they need to use more to get good effects.
Johnny-Law
08-22-2008, 10:49 AM
Usually studies don't use high extracts or even get the Ecdy from RC plants so they need to use more to get good effects.
Do you know if ecdypure is like 5 times more potent than regular ecdy?
Halosoccer24
08-22-2008, 11:42 AM
Do you know if ecdypure is like 5 times more potent than regular ecdy?
I dont know how much better it is in numbers but some of the best Ecdy comes from RC plants, like Omni, and to really give results should be as high of an extract as possible.
Johnny-Law
08-23-2008, 09:25 PM
This workout went great! I had a great pump which seems unusual for a speed day!
Day 6 (Explosive Strength)
Sets: 6
Reps: 3
Rest: 60 seconds between consecutive sets
Load: 18RM
Tempo: As fast as humanly possible while maintaining proper form.
Day 6
A) Explosive Lunge
Note: Keep your trunk as vertical as possible. Step forward as far as comfortably possible and alternate reps between each leg.
B) Explosive Sit-up
Note: Hook the feet and assume a traditional sit-up technique.
C) Explosive Barbell Bench Press
Note: Use an 18" grip width between first fingers. Don't lockout the elbows on any rep.
D) Explosive Supinated Pulldown
Note: Use an 18" underhand grip between pinky fingers. Let the weight stack rest between each rep before pulling down explosively.
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Halosoccer24
08-24-2008, 05:45 AM
This workout went great! I had a great pump which seems unusual for a speed day!
Day 6 (Explosive Strength)
Sets: 6
Reps: 3
Rest: 60 seconds between consecutive sets
Load: 18RM
Tempo: As fast as humanly possible while maintaining proper form.
Day 6
A) Explosive Lunge
Note: Keep your trunk as vertical as possible. Step forward as far as comfortably possible and alternate reps between each leg.
B) Explosive Sit-up
Note: Hook the feet and assume a traditional sit-up technique.
C) Explosive Barbell Bench Press
Note: Use an 18" grip width between first fingers. Don't lockout the elbows on any rep.
D) Explosive Supinated Pulldown
Note: Use an 18" underhand grip between pinky fingers. Let the weight stack rest between each rep before pulling down explosively.
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For only six sets that looks like a great workout.
Johnny-Law
08-31-2008, 11:19 AM
I just finished the Strength part of my workout. It went great I was supper focused as I took 4 Pyritinol caps and had the best pump ever for such low reps. I am all out of Omnibolic now :( Finances are tight as school started again, but over all the product does work, and you can feel the results. I would personally not call it a staple like a multi and protein power, but it is a very good product! Thanks to everyone at SSE for the opportunity!
Cheers
Day 1 (Maximal Strength)
Sets: 5
Reps: 3
Rest: 60 seconds between antagonist supersets
Load: 5 rep max (The extra two reps are kept "in the hole" so you won't train to failure.)
Tempo: Perform concentric (lifting) fast; perform eccentric (lowering) under control.
Day 1
A1) Front Squat
Note: Use a high bar position on your traps, feet shoulder width, toes straight ahead, full ROM (range of motion).
A2) Lying Leg Curl
Note: Keep the toes pointed straight down throughout the movement; don?t let the hips lift off the pad.
B1) Barbell Bench Press
Note: Use a 24" grip width (that's 24 inches between the first fingers).
B2) Seated Cable Row
Note: Use a 24", palms-down grip.
C1) Standing Barbell Curl
Note: Use an 18" grip width (18 inches between pinky fingers).
C2) Reverse Grip Triceps Pressdown
Note: Use an 18", palms up grip.
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Halosoccer24
08-31-2008, 11:21 AM
[QUOTE=Johnny-Law;210473351]
I just finished the Strength part of my workout. It went great I was supper focused as I took 4 Pyritinol caps and had the best pump ever for such low reps.
Day 1 (Maximal Strength)
Sets: 5
Reps: 3
Rest: 60 seconds between antagonist supersets
Load: 5 rep max (The extra two reps are kept "in the hole" so you won't train to failure.)
Tempo: Perform concentric (lifting) fast; perform eccentric (lowering) under control.
Day 1
A1) Front Squat
Note: Use a high bar position on your traps, feet shoulder width, toes straight ahead, full ROM (range of motion).
A2) Lying Leg Curl
Note: Keep the toes pointed straight down throughout the movement; don?t let the hips lift off the pad.
B1) Barbell Bench Press
Note: Use a 24" grip width (that's 24 inches between the first fingers).
B2) Seated Cable Row
Note: Use a 24", palms-down grip.
C1) Standing Barbell Curl
Note: Use an 18" grip width (18 inches between pinky fingers).
C2) Reverse Grip Triceps Pressdown
Note: Use an 18", palms up grip.
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Finally an update, but anyways, routine still looking good.
Johnny-Law
09-10-2008, 07:52 AM
[QUOTE=Johnny-Law;213484011]
Finally an update, but anyways, routine still looking good.
Thanks, I moved and it took a lot of my time!
TheSupremeBeing
09-10-2008, 07:53 AM
[QUOTE=Halosoccer24;213484611]
Thanks, I moved and it took a lot of my time!
Glad you loved Omnibolic!!
Johnny-Law
09-10-2008, 10:55 AM
Glad you loved Omnibolic!!
Yea it is a great Product! After all the cheep scam companies introduced Ecdy in the early 2000's I was put off by it as it did not work, but with this one you can feel the effects! While I was dieting and on Omnibolic I actually ended up weighing the same when I was done, but I had to make a new whole in my belt as I lost a inch off my waste. So I must of gained muscle while I lost weight and it seemed to be an equal amount or within a pound as my scale only reads in one pound increments!
TheSupremeBeing
02-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Yea it is a great Product! After all the cheep scam companies introduced Ecdy in the early 2000's I was put off by it as it did not work, but with this one you can feel the effects! While I was dieting and on Omnibolic I actually ended up weighing the same when I was done, but I had to make a new whole in my belt as I lost a inch off my waste. So I must of gained muscle while I lost weight and it seemed to be an equal amount or within a pound as my scale only reads in one pound increments!
Thanks man! I just found this, and it mde my day :)
SIRT1
02-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Nice log just read through it. Looks like another pleased SSE consumer :cool:
TheSupremeBeing
02-04-2009, 10:28 AM
Nice log just read through it. Looks like another pleased SSE consumer :cool:
There will be alot of those in 09. ;)
TheSupremeBeing
06-02-2009, 08:14 PM
Yea it is a great Product! After all the cheep scam companies introduced Ecdy in the early 2000's I was put off by it as it did not work, but with this one you can feel the effects! While I was dieting and on Omnibolic I actually ended up weighing the same when I was done, but I had to make a new whole in my belt as I lost a inch off my waste. So I must of gained muscle while I lost weight and it seemed to be an equal amount or within a pound as my scale only reads in one pound increments!
Send me a PM, I want you to try the NEW VERSION. ;)