**Official Keto Section Rant Thread**

[Stonecoldtruth]

Hi all and welcome! I thought that after my somewhat long hiatus I would bring a gift to the Keto Section in the form of a Rant Thread.

Feel free to rant about anything and everything in relation to (or even not in relation to) Ketogenic Diets.

I searched to make sure a similar thread did not exist, and I am surprised one does not.

So, RANT AWAY.. and reps to those who end up on the first few pages.

SCT

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant:

So, many of you may know me from this section, but some may not. I used to frequent here at CKD.com for quite a while. In fact, I used primarily CKD and other Ketogenic adaptations to take me from 415lbs down to my current weight of 265lbs.

I am happy at my current weight, able to play all of the sports I am involved in quite well. My weight has stopped being a restriction for me, and just part of who I am. That being said, I have been strongly considering joining the military.

Now, for anyone familiar with the military you will know that there are required weights you must meet based on your height. At 5'11" I am required to hit a weight of 196lbs to be able to 'enlist'. My only worry at this point is that I will be sacrificing a LOT of muscle to be able to hit that weight, as my current lean body mass is sitting at 205lbs.

In the past my primary goals in CKD were to lose fat while maintaining muscle mass. However, I'm now going to be just going for pure weight loss. I feel like I'm entering a new world of Keto, this should be fun.

[MarkVI]

Rant:

So, many of you may know me from this section, but some may not. I used to frequent here at CKD.com for quite a while. In fact, I used primarily CKD and other Ketogenic adaptations to take me from 415lbs down to my current weight of 265lbs.

I am happy at my current weight, able to play all of the sports I am involved in quite well. My weight has stopped being a restriction for me, and just part of who I am. That being said, I have been strongly considering joining the military.

Now, for anyone familiar with the military you will know that there are required weights you must meet based on your height. At 5'11" I am required to hit a weight of 196lbs to be able to 'enlist'. My only worry at this point is that I will be sacrificing a LOT of muscle to be able to hit that weight, as my current lean body mass is sitting at 205lbs.

In the past my primary goals in CKD were to lose fat while maintaining muscle mass. However, I'm now going to be just going for pure weight loss. I feel like I'm entering a new world of Keto, this should be fun.


Awesome thread, awesome idea, and awesome progress bro!!!!


That sounds like a daunting task and kind of scary to ose so much MORE weight....but the military is an awesome choice, I say go for it bro.

[IMAPACKERFAN]

Not really keto related, but I'm tired of the 98% of the people on this site who do not compete, eat like they're contest dieting 365 days/year. Actually I could care less how they eat, but they give advice to impressionable kids that you have to eat rice and chicken breast every meal of every day.

Second rant. Cottage cheese and freakin peanut butter are not magical foods. You're not going to lose all your muscles if you don't eat this magical combination of foods before bed. And you don't need to buy some expensive ass protein to drink before bed either.

I could go on and on, but that will do for now. Thanks for posting this.

[RU4A69]

Not really keto related, but I'm tired of the 98% of the people on this site who do not compete, eat like they're contest dieting 365 days/year. .

I am a proud part of that 98%

:)

[mike79]

I hate people that tell me "oh your doing no carbs? That Atkins guy died of a heart attack! You had better be careful!" So then you try to explain to them the principles of keto, but they are too ignorant to understand. I hate these people.

Meanwhile, I just had a full blood workup done, and everything is perfect, so perfect the doctor wanted to know what my diet was like. After telling him I consume 150 grams of fat a day, he was speechless.

2 months of keto- down 20lbs, with 8-10 more to go...and then I will clean bulk.

[BlueFenix13S]

Second rant. Cottage cheese and freakin peanut butter are not magical foods. You're not going to lose all your muscles if you don't eat this magical combination of foods before bed. And you don't need to buy some expensive ass protein to drink before bed either.

Can we add oatmeal to this? Literally every other post in the main section is about f**king oatmeal.

And the "necessity" for fast carbs and fast protein PWO. I don't think old school bodybuilders choked down whey+gatorade PWO. It was steak, eggs, potatoes, milk, hell, even Arnold's shakes had whole eggs and heavy cream.

[Frankiexq]

you can ask to get taped. for the air force, you can be over the limit as long as you're under 20% BF. that's how it was when i joined. I had to be 175. i was 185 at 13%, but my recruiter still wanted me to be under 175. he told me this a month before i left, so i dieted, used diuretics and laxatives and weighed in at 169. plus you're weighed in your chonies, so you'll see a couple lbs less than you normally do. after basic, my tech school was tri-service and i saw a A LOT of army guys and girls who were obese. i think due to recruiting shortages, their PT test passing grade was very low.

more important than weight is being fit enough to pass the physical requirements to finish basic training. for the AF, it's 1.5 miles in under 12 minutes. push-ups and sit ups are a breeze for people who workout, so i would focus on running. army tests at 2.0 miles and the marines do 3.0 miles.

the military is great. i'm in a career field i really enjoy and found that i am good at. there are few surprises. the benefits are good too.

[BlueFenix13S]

I hate people that tell me "oh your doing no carbs? That Atkins guy died of a heart attack! You had better be careful!" So then you try to explain to them the principles of keto, but they are too ignorant to understand. I hate these people.


I actually find that most people who give me the "Oh, you're on THAT diet, huh?" usually don't know what the heck to say when I explain the science of it. They just stare at me with the "I just got owned" look lol.

[BlueFenix13S]

you can ask to get taped. for the air force, you can be over the limit as long as you're under 20% BF. that's how it was when i joined. I had to be 175. i was 185 at 13%, but my recruiter still wanted me to be under 175. he told me this a month before i left, so i dieted, used diuretics and laxatives and weighed in at 169. plus you're weighed in your chonies, so you'll see a couple lbs less than you normally do. after basic, my tech school was tri-service and i saw a A LOT of army guys and girls who were obese. i think due to recruiting shortages, their PT test passing grade was very low.

more important than weight is being fit enough to pass the physical requirements to finish basic training. for the AF, it's 1.5 miles in under 12 minutes. push-ups and sit ups are a breeze for people who workout, so i would focus on running. army tests at 2.0 miles and the marines do 3.0 miles.

the military is great. i'm in a career field i really enjoy and found that i am good at. there are few surprises. the benefits are good too.

I NEVER do cardio outside of mandatory PT and I still smoke most of my unit.

The Air Force did away with the minimum scores for the individual tests, but you still need a 75/100 to pass the PFT. By that theory, since I get max points for waist circumference, push-ups, and sit-ups, I can literally WALK the 1.5 mile run in 15:45 and still pass lol. But, "Excellence in all we do", so I still bust my ass.

Honestly, just work hard, eat right, and stay motivated. When you're in basic, the weight will continue to just fall right off. I lost 5lbs during basic, but my strength went through the roof and I looked a LOT leaner than just 5lbs.

Oh, and that was with 3 meals/day, no pre/post workout nutrition, and no weight training :D. Broscience FTL!

[Drandom]

Second rant. Cottage cheese and freakin peanut butter are not magical foods. You're not going to lose all your muscles if you don't eat this magical combination of foods before bed.


Dont forget the fact that if you dont eat a meal every 2-3 hours your body will start EATING AWAY at itself and your metabolism will DROP!

[Stonecoldtruth]

you can ask to get taped. for the air force, you can be over the limit as long as you're under 20% BF. that's how it was when i joined. I had to be 175. i was 185 at 13%, but my recruiter still wanted me to be under 175. he told me this a month before i left, so i dieted, used diuretics and laxatives and weighed in at 169. plus you're weighed in your chonies, so you'll see a couple lbs less than you normally do. after basic, my tech school was tri-service and i saw a A LOT of army guys and girls who were obese. i think due to recruiting shortages, their PT test passing grade was very low.

more important than weight is being fit enough to pass the physical requirements to finish basic training. for the AF, it's 1.5 miles in under 12 minutes. push-ups and sit ups are a breeze for people who workout, so i would focus on running. army tests at 2.0 miles and the marines do 3.0 miles.

the military is great. i'm in a career field i really enjoy and found that i am good at. there are few surprises. the benefits are good too.

Either way dropping from 265 to anywhere around the required weight is going to be a daunting, but fun task. The running will be no problem as I am an experienced triathlete so running is a part of my everyday life, heh. The pushups are tough right now, but I'm sure as the weight goes down they will get easier as well.

[Frankiexq]

i got to MEPS at 169, left basic at 185. I probably put back all the water i drained refilled my colon. don't do pushups every day. do them on chest or tri or shoulder days. just bust out as many as you can in 1 or 2 minutes as your warm-up before lifting.

[BlueFenix13S]

just bust out as many as you can in 1 or 2 minutes as your warm-up before lifting.

Watch your form ;)

[rhysox]

my rant... going to bed with seriously low blood sugar levels.. I have the WORST craving for sugary cereal EVER. prevents me from sleeping sometimes :(

[Eileen]

Not really keto related, but I'm tired of the 98% of the people on this site who do not compete,

You'd have to have some amazingly specialised classes to get me up on stage in a bikini!

[Frankiexq]

it's odd that i'd be keto-ing. reason: i love sweets. oatmeal raisin cookies, cherry pies, boston cream pie, eclairs, chocolate cake, fruit tarts, and BREAD PUDDING. average bread pudding can make me happy. really awesome bread pudding can make me smile as i chew.

[Eileen]

my rant... going to bed with seriously low blood sugar levels.. I have the WORST craving for sugary cereal EVER. prevents me from sleeping sometimes :(

Eat before bed. Have some heavy cream.

[Eileen]

Not keto related, but can I do a general rant at everyone who thinks that going for a walk without a massive pre-workout meal will cause all their muscles to magically disappear? Cop yourselves on, guys.

[Nutir]

Not keto related, but can I do a general rant at everyone who thinks that going for a walk without a massive pre-workout meal will cause all their muscles to magically disappear? Cop yourselves on, guys.

Yeah I saw that thread too..


RANT: My dietetician and my GP (which happens to be specialised in nutrition) know nothing about keto and told me that eating fat to lose fat was bad. My ORL (the doctor who's specialised in ears, throat,..), which I saw this morning for a regular ear-checkup (got surgery last year) and whom I asked about my TSH results, knows more about nutrition than the two other doctors together.
He looked into my ear, looked at my test results, and then we spoke about keto, PSMF etc.. He's also the first doctor who told me to watch out for overtesting (in the thyroid case).

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant: I currently have a cold and my throat is killing me, and it is taking soooo much willpower to not just eat some carbs (specifically ice cream) since it is so much easier to prepare, lol

[RU4A69]

You'd have to have some amazingly specialised classes to get me up on stage in a bikini!

Hmmm.........Eileen in a bikini..................didn't you say you wear a DDD cup?

:D

[TheWaffleIron]

I hate people that tell me "oh your doing no carbs? That Atkins guy died of a heart attack! You had better be careful!" So then you try to explain to them the principles of keto, but they are too ignorant to understand. I hate these people.


x1000. i hate people who don't know **** about nutrition and lecture me. im eating 8 - 12 eggs a day, and i recieve countless egg yolk lectures. of course, none of these people know what they're talking about. same thing with my saturated fat intake, cholesterol intake, etc. ive read studies, articles from scientific journals, and studied physiology and biology. yet apparently someone who saw a commercial on tv in regards to the dangers of cholesterol intake (or any other bullsh*t put out by the media) automatically knows more than i do.

(in before i turn this rant towards uneducated people talking about anabolic steroids)

[MarkVI]

Rant: Don't you just love it when a fat coworker makes some big huge sugary, diabetes inducing, love handles cementing, double chin creating piece of crappy dessert that doesn't even taste good and then looks at you like you're a freak when you say no thanks at 9:30 IN THE MORNING!!!! Then says you have food issues when she is 50 lobs overweight and eats 5 times during the work day.....


Yeah, that happened 2.5 hours ago...lol, and happens at least once a week ahaha.....fatties.

And then when I pop open my Can of fresh crab they look at me weird....mmm, fresh crab meat.

And now she is eating steak and mashed potatoes and soda....I'm watching her right now -- what a freaking oinker....oh...I see Bannana Bread on her plate and a cookie....ouch, quick death for her.

[jaim91]

RANT: I was at my cousins wedding yesterday. It was black tie, and both my aunt and my mom told me NOT to bring my tupperwear to the party. So I went from 5- 11pm without eating because my relatives can't come to terms with my contest rep.

PS. The party favours were chocolate covered candy apples

[Eileen]

Hmmm.........Eileen in a bikini..................didn't you say you wear a DDD cup?

:D

DD. Don't even know if there is a DDD. Bear in mind, the hips are even bigger.

[MarkVI]

DD. Don't even know if there is a DDD. Bear in mind, the hips are even bigger.

Complaints?.....anyone?





yeah didn't think so -- stage time Eileen :)

[uraprobl3m]

Rant: Don't you just love it when a fat coworker makes some big huge sugary, diabetes inducing, love handles cementing, double chin creating piece of crappy dessert that doesn't even taste good and then looks at you like you're a freak when you say no thanks at 9:30 IN THE MORNING!!!! Then says you have food issues when she is 50 lobs overweight and eats 5 times during the work day.....


Yeah, that happened 2.5 hours ago...lol, and happens at least once a week ahaha.....fatties.

And then when I pop open my Can of fresh crab they look at me weird....mmm, fresh crab meat.

And now she is eating steak and mashed potatoes and soda....I'm watching her right now -- what a freaking oinker....oh...I see Bannana Bread on her plate and a cookie....ouch, quick death for her.

LOL

[MarkVI]

RANT: I was at my cousins wedding yesterday. It was black tie, and both my aunt and my mom told me NOT to bring my tupperwear to the party. So I went from 5- 11pm without eating because my relatives can't come to terms with my contest rep.

PS. The party favours were chocolate covered candy apples

I had my best friends wedding on saturday and I was the best man....I didn't eat a single carb....not one person noticed lol! Though I did eat three times between 2 and 9

[druluv]

RANT: Found a low carb doctor in NY! But he doesn't take insurance. $1000 for first visit :(

[adwill]

i'm not going to rant; i enjoy life on keto!

but okay, i'll bite. having to buy new jeans every 4 weeks is a REAL pain. God damn. I've decided just to tough it out with cheap pairs until I start stabilizing a bit better... Even if the scale isn't fluctuating, the sizes keep dropping.

Its seriously starting to annoy me, in the best way possible.

[mike79]

RANT: I was at my cousins wedding yesterday. It was black tie, and both my aunt and my mom told me NOT to bring my tupperwear to the party. So I went from 5- 11pm without eating because my relatives can't come to terms with my contest rep.

PS. The party favours were chocolate covered candy apples

I have a wedding this weekend (Saturday) with the rehearsal dinner Friday night, and some huge bbq that Sunday... I haven't carbed up in 2 weeks, and I dont think i want to either....hmmmm to carb up or not to carb up!

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant: Still sick, sweating like a pig and then 100+ fevers alternating is no fun. I am still sticking to the nutrition plan, but god does ice cream sound good right now.

Rant #2: I have known Eileen on here for years and have yet to see a picture of her.. Eileen, I expect a PM darlin!

SCT

[Nutir]

Rant: Still sick, sweating like a pig and then 100+ fevers alternating is no fun. I am still sticking to the nutrition plan, but god does ice cream sound good right now.

Rant #2: I have known Eileen on here for years and have yet to see a picture of her.. Eileen, I expect a PM darlin!

SCT

PM if you get something :p

About your cold, I would eat carbs. I don't know why but carbs always make me feel better faster, so IMO, eat a little ice cream, just don't overdo it.
If you want to stay on keto, there are some keto icecreams recipes that are pretty good on the recipe forum, I've tried Eileens' vanilla icecream and it tastes just like the real deal !

(and I suck at cooking, so I basically didn't fold anything, just mixed everything together :p)

[Eileen]

RANT: Found a low carb doctor in NY! But he doesn't take insurance. $1000 for first visit :(

You're kidding!!! $1000 for a visit to a doctor?? And I thought we were killed here with each visit costing 50 euro and extra for blood tests.

[midnight_maraud3r]

RANT: tendon in chest still hasn't healed. can't even do cardio as the impact affects it. want to die.

[Nutir]

1k ? holy****

We get almost all paid back by the insurance, and I still find it costs me a lot :eek:


RANT: why is it so hard to understand that I don't want pasta ?!?

[MarkVI]

1k ? holy****

We get almost all paid back by the insurance, and I still find it costs me a lot :eek:


RANT: why is it so hard to understand that I don't want pasta ?!?

Because pasta tastes like feet and who wouldn't want to eat something that tastes like feet....(yes serious pasta hater...EW!!!!).

[Stonecoldtruth]

1k ? holy****

We get almost all paid back by the insurance, and I still find it costs me a lot :eek:


RANT: why is it so hard to understand that I don't want pasta ?!?

Why not get some of that low carb pasta.. let me see:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/b/2006/05/25/shirataki-the-low-carb-noodle.htm

[Nutir]

Because pasta tastes like feet and who wouldn't want to eat something that tastes like feet....(yes serious pasta hater...EW!!!!).

Nah I love pasta :D
I got a bunch of italian people in my family, so me not eating pizza and pasta does get noticed quite fast.


Why not get some of that low carb pasta.. let me see:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/b/2006/05/25/shirataki-the-low-carb-noodle.htm

Because I don't easily get that kind of stuff here. I did 10shops before finding natty PB (randomly in a small shop I didn't know about) and that I already did 3 groceries stores and 2 asian markets to find EV coconut oil and didn't get any :D

[MarkVI]

Nah I love pasta :D
I got a bunch of italian people in my family, so me not eating pizza and pasta does get noticed quite fast.






My entire family is Italian and I just no thanks at everything...ugh, I love the stuff around the pasta like the sauces and cheese and meat, but the actual pasta is just disgusting.

[RU4A69]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=108770521

[Beklet]

DD. Don't even know if there is a DDD. Bear in mind, the hips are even bigger.

It's an American thing - otherwise known as an E cup :D

I'm about to go back on the keto (bloody payday hurry UP!!! I want my Costco meat-fest dammit!!!!)

RANT:WHy is it I have a friend who is completely obsessed with her shape, has lost 2 stone and is STILL complaining she's fat at a UK size 6 (Size 2 for US readers) tells me I have food 'issues' because I want to lose weight at a somewhat prtly size 12/14?

Erm.

And all my 'well meaning' friends who tell me fat is bad for you, I shouldn't go on these 'fad' diets then tell me I should go to Weightwatchers or just live on pasta salad (no dressing) and it'll be OK WIND ME UP!!! :mad:

Oh and I love egg yolks. I'll eat as many as I like. So there.

I hate oatmeal. HATE IT. And cold pasta - ugh!

I'm really craving steak right now

[Stonecoldtruth]

It's an American thing - otherwise known as an E cup :D

I'm about to go back on the keto (bloody payday hurry UP!!! I want my Costco meat-fest dammit!!!!)

RANT:WHy is it I have a friend who is completely obsessed with her shape, has lost 2 stone and is STILL complaining she's fat at a UK size 6 (Size 2 for US readers) tells me I have food 'issues' because I want to lose weight at a somewhat prtly size 12/14?

Erm.

And all my 'well meaning' friends who tell me fat is bad for you, I shouldn't go on these 'fad' diets then tell me I should go to Weightwatchers or just live on pasta salad (no dressing) and it'll be OK WIND ME UP!!! :mad:

Oh and I love egg yolks. I'll eat as many as I like. So there.

I hate oatmeal. HATE IT. And cold pasta - ugh!

I'm really craving steak right now

Good first Keto rant. :D

[AchillesEvent]

Why is it that people think I'm a dud because I am in better shape, and have more money than they do - I'm talking my friends here, NOT in general.

It's because they spend $100s every week on fast food, and beer, and cigarettes - while I spend much less than that on whole foods and choose not to binge on my own case of Miller every weekend!!!

Of course, they don't understand why they have no money, and huge bellies!!! WTF. Seriously, it's not cool to sit around every weekend, drinking and ordering pizza. Get off your ass - I'm not the dud, you are.

/rant.

Thank you. That was nice. I feel better.

[MarkVI]

WHY would you ask ME a question about nutrition and then when I give you a GOOD ANSWER you look at me and go hmmmm.....and then when I ask have you RESEARCHED IT?!?!! You say -- no, but....AND THEN LOOK AT ME WEIRD?!?!


I don't get it -- people are dumb and suck.

Except Ketoers

[Stonecoldtruth]

Why is it that people think I'm a dud because I am in better shape, and have more money than they do - I'm talking my friends here, NOT in general.

It's because they spend $100s every week on fast food, and beer, and cigarettes - while I spend much less than that on whole foods and choose not to binge on my own case of Miller every weekend!!!

Of course, they don't understand why they have no money, and huge bellies!!! WTF. Seriously, it's not cool to sit around every weekend, drinking and ordering pizza. Get off your ass - I'm not the dud, you are.

/rant.

Thank you. That was nice. I feel better.

Those people would CRY if they saw my food budget. I spend less a month than I bet they do a week, muwhaha.

[Stonecoldtruth]

WHY would you ask ME a question about nutrition and then when I give you a GOOD ANSWER you look at me and go hmmmm.....and then when I ask have you RESEARCHED IT?!?!! You say -- no, but....AND THEN LOOK AT ME WEIRD?!?!


I don't get it -- people are dumb and suck.

Except Ketoers

Because it is easier to ask and then doubt than to research and know. Such is the nature of the n00b.

[MarkVI]

Because it is easier to ask and then doubt than to research and know. Such is the nature of the fat middle aged women n00b.

That fits my situation a little better.

[BlueFenix13S]

And all my 'well meaning' friends who tell me fat is bad for you, I shouldn't go on these 'fad' diets then tell me I should go to Weightwatchers or just live on pasta salad (no dressing) and it'll be OK WIND ME UP!!! :mad:

Oh and I love egg yolks. I'll eat as many as I like. So there.


Right, cause weight watchers is normal- "Excuse me, I have 3 points left to eat today, should I do the ice cream sandwich or the double fudge brownie..... Oh don't worry, it's Weight Watchers brand."

Eggs rock, I buy 6 dozen a week.


WHY would you ask ME a question about nutrition and then when I give you a GOOD ANSWER you look at me and go hmmmm.....and then when I ask have you RESEARCHED IT?!?!! You say -- no, but....AND THEN LOOK AT ME WEIRD?!?!


Man, I don't even bother trying to explain it to some people anymore. Someone at work asked me last night why I ate so many salads and wasn't adding olive oil counterproductive..... while they ate their king size Twix and 42oz fountain drink.


Those people would CRY if they saw my food budget. I spend less a month than I bet they do a week, muwhaha.

Mine is actually quite a bit because I buy a LOT of fresh veggies, and I like seafood, which is a bit more pricey. I'd rather spend $100 a week on healthy food than $50 a week on processed junk though.


Because it is easier to ask and then doubt than to research and know. Such is the nature of the n00b.

You mean it's easier to be ignorant lol. Some people just don't care and want to be right no matter what you say to them.

[Beklet]

Right, cause weight watchers is normal- "Excuse me, I have 3 points left to eat today, should I do the ice cream sandwich or the double fudge brownie..... Oh don't worry, it's Weight Watchers brand."

Eggs rock, I buy 6 dozen a week.



Oh yes. I'd have 20 points a day - that's 4 yoghurts or a small mountain of salad or probably an ounce of mackerel :mad:

Idiots.

I wish I could afford 6 dozen eggs a week, damn expensive free range eggs! Mind you, I'd be eating them with pounds of linseeds lol :D

[Eileen]

A friend of mine says her kids love when she goes back to Weight Watchers, the house is always full of WW cake and biscuits.

Oh, rant: I spent a day at a family party, where everyone spent the day horsing into booze, bread, curry, rice, naan bread, cake, more booze, panna cotta, more booze, biscuits and sweets. I had a few bits of chicken picked out of the curry and a bag of salad. And lots of water and black coffee. Three hours later, still starving, I headed to the fridge and found a tub of cottage cheese. My mother looked at me and said "You really do eat a lot, don't you?"

[IMAPACKERFAN]

RANT: Found a low carb doctor in NY! But he doesn't take insurance. $1000 for first visit :(

What the hell is a low carb doctor?

[Stonecoldtruth]

What the hell is a low carb doctor?

Check it out:

cannibalismfordummies.com

[adwill]

why are people so damn afraid of creatine, still? this isn't keto specific, but damn, a friend of mine is trying to bulk and i explained to him that it will help with recovery, injury prevention, strength, size and pump and all, but he refuses to take it because of the myths perpetuated about the stuff. he has no problems smoking and social binge drinking, though.

people who don't research their nutrition and choose to believe hearsay... aghh its annoying.

[MarkVI]

why are people so damn afraid of creatine, still? this isn't keto specific, but damn, a friend of mine is trying to bulk and i explained to him that it will help with recovery, injury prevention, strength, size and pump and all, but he refuses to take it because of the myths perpetuated about the stuff. he has no problems smoking and social binge drinking, though.

people who don't research their nutrition and choose to believe hearsay... aghh its annoying.

I think it's funny that guys like you are talking to your buddies about creatine and then I turn and talk to my buddy about why insulin and excessive oral steroids are dangerous and all of that.....different strokes for different folks.

[Stonecoldtruth]

I think it's funny that guys like you are talking to your buddies about creatine and then I turn and talk to my buddy about why insulin and excessive oral steroids are dangerous and all of that.....different strokes for different folks.

And yet my buddies and I have in-depth discussions regarding clen vs dnp, different strokes..

[Nutir]

why are people so damn afraid of creatine, still? this isn't keto specific, but damn, a friend of mine is trying to bulk and i explained to him that it will help with recovery, injury prevention, strength, size and pump and all, but he refuses to take it because of the myths perpetuated about the stuff. he has no problems smoking and social binge drinking, though.

people who don't research their nutrition and choose to believe hearsay... aghh its annoying.

I hear you on that part, I tried talking about whey ONCE with my friends, the answers I got are all in the "supps are for pros" range. So I never mentioned creatine or the big box in my closet :D


new rant: why is it so hard to believe when I say I don't drink anymore ? (ok, maybe because I used to be the biggest drinker around :D) I Hate it when people try to get me drunk, respect has been lost somewhere on the way..

[PennState]

My first official Rant:

I really can't stand the rest of the sub-forums on these boards. There are WAY too many people arguing over things that don't really matter and asking questions that are totally insane. At the stage MOST people on this board are at, it doesn't matter if you get in 25 or 30 grams of dextrose post workout or if you do a 3 or a 4 day split. I really can't stand the amount of 18 year old kids on here talking about the bioavailability of chicken. Just eat the bloody protein and grow a bit.

No one on these boards except the keto brothren eat any substantial amount of vegetables and everyone in afraid of fruit (atleast we have just cause on keto). But when not in keto a plum or apple isn't going to destroy your diet. It will probably help it because you can satisfy sweet cravings without "cheat mealing" Nothing annoys me more than when you see someone posting about how you should avoid fruit like the plague and then their next post talks about the 4,000 calorie cheat meal they just whoofed down.


Rant over.


Wow a feel better. :-)

[adwill]

I think it's funny that guys like you are talking to your buddies about creatine and then I turn and talk to my buddy about why insulin and excessive oral steroids are dangerous and all of that.....different strokes for different folks.

haha, well, my friends don't find nutrition nearly as interesting as i do, so i doubt i could ever hold a conversation about insulin, although i'd love to... i need to hang out with people who are in to this kind of stuff.


I hear you on that part, I tried talking about whey ONCE with my friends, the answers I got are all in the "supps are for pros" range. So I never mentioned creatine or the big box in my closet


new rant: why is it so hard to believe when I say I don't drink anymore ? (ok, maybe because I used to be the biggest drinker around ) I Hate it when people try to get me drunk, respect has been lost somewhere on the way..

yea, my roommates were the same way with my whey/creatine/multi thing i had stashed away in the kitchen... Really, it wasn't all that much, yet they still thought I was doing gear or something.

And as far as the drinking goes, I know it is difficult for people to understand that alcohol just doesn't have the same appeal anymore... No big loss, really



I really can't stand the rest of the sub-forums on these boards. There are WAY too many people arguing over things that don't really matter and asking questions that are totally insane. At the stage MOST people on this board are at, it doesn't matter if you get in 25 or 30 grams of dextrose post workout or if you do a 3 or a 4 day split. I really can't stand the amount of 18 year old kids on here talking about the bioavailability of chicken. Just eat the bloody protein and grow a bit.

haha. check out the teen boards for a laugh. u mad?

[MarkVI]

And yet my buddies and I have in-depth discussions regarding clen vs dnp, different strokes..

Oh, I have those conversations quite often....DNP is the stuff of satan but I just can't say no :) and WITH clen....hooooly crap.

[Beklet]

Why oh why did I decide starting a keto diet when I had PMT was a good idea?

I'm sitting here with my groggy PMT headache, just made so much worse by groggy keto-head, PMT spots and horrible skin, cramps and sugar cravings. Ugh.

At least keto is an excellent excuse to have a kebab later (no pitta, obviously!) :p

[PennState]

haha. check out the teen boards for a laugh. u mad?

The funny part is, I stopped looking at the teen section about 3 years ago for that very reason. It just seems to be creeping into the nutrition, losing fat, and workout programs areas too.

[MarkVI]

The funny part is, I stopped looking at the teen section about 3 years ago for that very reason. It just seems to be creeping into the nutrition, losing fat, and workout programs areas too.

lol X2.....It's because 90% of the teen section has ED;s.

[LC44]

I'm so ****ing slammed at work right now that I work insane hours every day of the freaking week and LOOK FORWARD TO ****ING SATURDAYS so that i can come into the ****ing office to get **** done without being interrupted every ****ing 5 minutes. the worst is the one woman who comes into my office every ****ing 2 minutes. and now it's saturday, i've been in the office since about 8am. AND SHE JUST ****ING WALKED IN. **** THIS. SHE DOESNT EVEN GET **** DONE. I seriously cannot believe this sht. i really feel like i'm about to cry i'm that stressed out. holy sht.

EDIT: how about that. this thing auto-edits bad words.

[MarkVI]

I'm so ****ing slammed at work right now that I work insane hours every day of the freaking week and LOOK FORWARD TO ****ING SATURDAYS so that i can come into the ****ing office to get **** done without being interrupted every ****ing 5 minutes. the worst is the one woman who comes into my office every ****ing 2 minutes. and now it's saturday, i've been in the office since about 8am. AND SHE JUST ****ING WALKED IN. **** THIS. SHE DOESNT EVEN GET **** DONE. I seriously cannot believe this sht. i really feel like i'm about to cry i'm that stressed out. holy sht.

EDIT: how about that. this thing auto-edits bad words.

Good thing it does too lol.....

[BlueFenix13S]

I really need to start listening to myself when buying gas. Over the last week, the price in my town has gone from $3.69->$3.65->$3.63->$3.61 last night. I though "I should buy while it's low....... but maybe it will go just a tad lower tomorrow." Yea, didn't happen. Had to fill up today at $3.76. WTF!?

I reminded myself of why I hate carbs so much. I made some oatmeal with breakfast, don't ask me why, I hadn't planned on having my next carb meal until the 4th of July. Well, 7 hours later and I still have absolutely no appetite, yet am craving more carbs, and am bloated like hell :mad:

I also have a 14 hour shift at work tomorrow (9am til 11pm) to look forward to after working from 5-midnight tonight.

[Eileen]

EDIT: how about that. this thing auto-edits bad words.

Yeah, it also auto-edits works which are not bad, but which contain the same letters as bad words. S******s is not a bad word, it's a type of silent or concealed laugh!

[Cerrav]

I'm so ****ing slammed at work right now that I work insane hours every day of the freaking week and LOOK FORWARD TO ****ING SATURDAYS so that i can come into the ****ing office to get **** done without being interrupted every ****ing 5 minutes. the worst is the one woman who comes into my office every ****ing 2 minutes. and now it's saturday, i've been in the office since about 8am. AND SHE JUST ****ING WALKED IN. **** THIS. SHE DOESNT EVEN GET **** DONE. I seriously cannot believe this sht. i really feel like i'm about to cry i'm that stressed out. holy sht.

EDIT: how about that. this thing auto-edits bad words.

Someone needs some Orbitz! :)

[LC44]

lots of deep breathing. it's hilarious b/c i'm so sweet face-to-face with this woman too. but she's one of the big reasons that i'm in here on a saturday b/c she takes up so much of my time during the week. it was actually pretty comical how ironic it was that she came in today. eff her.

i'm calm now. mainly because she left.

[MarkVI]

I really need to start listening to myself when buying gas. Over the last week, the price in my town has gone from $3.69->$3.65->$3.63->$3.61 last night. I though "I should buy while it's low....... but maybe it will go just a tad lower tomorrow." Yea, didn't happen. Had to fill up today at $3.76. WTF!?

I reminded myself of why I hate carbs so much. I made some oatmeal with breakfast, don't ask me why, I hadn't planned on having my next carb meal until the 4th of July. Well, 7 hours later and I still have absolutely no appetite, yet am craving more carbs, and am bloated like hell :mad:

I also have a 14 hour shift at work tomorrow (9am til 11pm) to look forward to after working from 5-midnight tonight.



quit complaining....i paid 4.67 today.....lol

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant: The plasma donation places are so carb-nazis. I tried to schedule a donation for my carbup day but noooo, they have to do it midweek and then force me to drink some nasty ass HFCS hatorade.

[MarkVI]

Rant: The plasma donation places are so carb-nazis. I tried to schedule a donation for my carbup day but noooo, they have to do it midweek and then force me to drink some nasty ass HFCS hatorade.

look on the bright side....donating immediately puts you back 600 calories :)

[Nutir]

quit complaining....i paid 4.67 today.....lol

quit complaining, i've been paying at least 7.5 for the last 2 years, last time I filled up it was at 8.20 :D

[capitaboarder]

quit complaining....i paid 4.67 today.....lol

You know what's funny...gas prices keep going up in the US with crude oil over $140 a barrell, yet over here in Iraq, everyone is ****ing driving around in 2007-2008 Suburbans and any other gas guzzling vehicle you can think of (around base that is)...and gas is free....thank you US tax dollars...makes no sense to me...

But onto the Keto side of things, I've been doing it the past few days, and I have no idea if i am in Ketosis or not...it would take 2-3 weeks if I order ketostix online, so I can't check by that. Urine doesn't really smell and my breath doesn't smell odd, and I don't feel cold. I feel tired, unenergetic, light headed sometimes, but is there anything else I can check for? yesterday I ate about 30g of carbs and so far today i'm around 4-5g so I haven't been eating many...

[MarkVI]

You know what's funny...gas prices keep going up in the US with crude oil over $140 a barrell, yet over here in Iraq, everyone is ****ing driving around in 2007-2008 Suburbans and any other gas guzzling vehicle you can think of (around base that is)...and gas is free....thank you US tax dollars...makes no sense to me...

But onto the Keto side of things, I've been doing it the past few days, and I have no idea if i am in Ketosis or not...it would take 2-3 weeks if I order ketostix online, so I can't check by that. Urine doesn't really smell and my breath doesn't smell odd, and I don't feel cold. I feel tired, unenergetic, light headed sometimes, but is there anything else I can check for? yesterday I ate about 30g of carbs and so far today i'm around 4-5g so I haven't been eating many...

EXACTLY!! We're expending US lives to make the Iraqi's lives easier....screw that, they have SO much oil...time to benefit from the war.

[MarkVI]

quit complaining, i've been paying at least 7.5 for the last 2 years, last time I filled up it was at 8.20 :D

Yeah....but how many miles do you drive a week? With work it's like 300 miles a week....

[Beklet]

1.19 a litre here now, that's nearly $11 a gallon :(

A tenner doesn't even give me a quarter of a tank now :mad:

[MarkVI]

1.19 a litre here now, that's nearly $11 a gallon :(

A tenner doesn't even give me a quarter of a tank now :mad:

again, how much do you *have* to truly drive? For us Suburbanites, especially where I live, transportation is pretty much a fend for yourselves type of situation....public transportation is a joke....4 hours bus rides to get to two towns over....no thanks.

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant: We lost our final two games of the softball season because our pitcher turns into a big old bitch whenever he starts throwing badly. He decided to yell at me despite the fact that I had ZERO errors, six forced outs and turned two double plays as well as catching a diving line drive.

Rant Two: I need to find a different team next year who doesn't think of me as an 'outsider' since I don't work for said team's company anymore.

SCT, the rant king

[Beklet]

again, how much do you *have* to truly drive? For us Suburbanites, especially where I live, transportation is pretty much a fend for yourselves type of situation....public transportation is a joke....4 hours bus rides to get to two towns over....no thanks.

Tomorrow, I have to drive 150 miles to Hull for work and back a couple of days later. I'll get the expenses paid back but I'm still massively out of pocket for a week :(

[Stonecoldtruth]

Tomorrow, I have to drive 150 miles to Hull for work and back a couple of days later. I'll get the expenses paid back but I'm still massively out of pocket for a week :(

Credit Cards?

[Beklet]

Credit Cards?

Hell no!!! I cut those up :D

Have to buy car tax tomorrow too - tax tax bloody tax!!!! Grrrrr!!!!

[ItalWHOP]

When I try to tell the GF something is bad for her (like the high fructose corn syrup Gatorade she frequents) and she says...so what? I look good don't I!!......

I did manage to get her to buy the powder this time.....

[Stonecoldtruth]

When I try to tell the GF something is bad for her (like the high fructose corn syrup Gatorade she frequents) and she says...so what? I look good don't I!!......

I did manage to get her to buy the powder this time.....

Take some advice from someone who has been down that road, you cannot forced others to be healthy they have to choose it for themselves.

[Eileen]

It's like telling teenagers that smoking is bad for them. They may accept that smoking is bad for old people but they are going to live forever, so what does it matter to them, and they look cool.....

[Nutir]

Yeah....but how many miles do you drive a week? With work it's like 300 miles a week....

I was driving 200 miles/week average during my college studies (holiday now). Got a job that'll make me drive even more for the summer..

I live outside of everything too :(

[MarkVI]

I was driving 200 miles/week average during my college studies (holiday now). Got a job that'll make me drive even more for the summer..

I live outside of everything too :(

Crap bro -- sorry to hear that.

Well I just got in a bad car accident and my back is f'd and I can't really work out at alll....


So cheer up :)

[midnight_maraud3r]

sorry to hear that Mark. being hurt sucks doesn't it?

I have barely worked out (did cardio a couple times but don't any more b/c impact hurts) since I stopped back in April and I've still somehow lost 15 lbs. My diet has been mainly keto (a few carb meals here and there) and I've drank on average once a week. I keep saying I'm gonna go back on carbs once I heal up but I'm not so sure. So now I'm 165...skinny as ****.

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant: When a company shuts off a service without any notice it pisses me off, especially when you've had a FIVE year relationship with said company.

SCT

[ItalWHOP]

Crap bro -- sorry to hear that.

Well I just got in a bad car accident and my back is f'd and I can't really work out at alll....


So cheer up :)

Damn man that sucks. I went through the same issue last July (broken clavicle, sternum, multiple ribs, concussion)....made a mistake of dropping keto and going back to carbs during recovery...lost a lot of mass. :(

fun fun.....for ****s and giggle...here was my IS300...man I miss it!!! :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/ItalianLexOwner/DSC01316.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/ItalianLexOwner/DSC01318.jpg

[MarkVI]

I remember that happening to you! damn bro---what got hurt?

[jaim91]

Crap bro -- sorry to hear that.

Well I just got in a bad car accident and my back is f'd and I can't really work out at alll....


Can I make you feel better?

[ItalWHOP]

I remember that happening to you! damn bro---what got hurt?

(broken clavicle, sternum, multiple ribs, concussion)

Then I had not ate anything all night/morning...they released me at like 9am and gave me a percocet to go.....got to the driveway of my house had to hop out and puke because the medicine made me nauseous......

Let me tell you how fun it is to puke with a broken core....

Then to top things off, I broke the other collar bone 3 weeks later in a stupid fall on some rocky terrain....lmfao!!! F'd up on that is the fall broke the right collar bone worse then the seat belt saving my life -> T-boning an f-150 at 70.....how the f does that happen?!?!?

[MarkVI]

Can I make you feel better?

hmm, I think we could come up with something.........;)



(broken clavicle, sternum, multiple ribs, concussion)

Then I had not ate anything all night/morning...they released me at like 9am and gave me a percocet to go.....got to the driveway of my house had to hop out and puke because the medicine made me nauseous......

Let me tell you how fun it is to puke with a broken core....

Then to top things off, I broke the other collar bone 3 weeks later in a stupid fall on some rocky terrain....lmfao!!! F'd up on that is the fall broke the right collar bone worse then the seat belt saving my life -> T-boning an f-150 at 70.....how the f does that happen?!?!?


Dude that sucks....where did you tbone the guy? intersection of a freeway lol/?

[Basil08]

Can I make you feel better?

...ahem....:D

[jaim91]

hmm, I think we could come up with something.........;)



...ahem....:D

I'm telling you! Keto (and MarkVI) make my lady hormones go carrrr-razy!!!

[MarkVI]

I'm telling you! Keto (and MarkVI) make my lady hormones go carrrr-razy!!!

Not to mention my man hormones are always going crazy....and I have MORE THAN ENOUGH man hormones if you catch my drift.

How's Canada day going?

[ItalWHOP]

Dude that sucks....where did you tbone the guy? intersection of a freeway lol/?

Yea basically. In north Georgia there are traffic lights on highway 400...speed limit is 65....luckily there was a sheriff watching that intersection and saw him run the red....I had to ask the witnesses what happened after I came to, popped my seat belt, and fell out on the asphalt...lol

[ChocolatePimp]

(broken clavicle, sternum, multiple ribs, concussion)

Then I had not ate anything all night/morning...they released me at like 9am and gave me a percocet to go.....got to the driveway of my house had to hop out and puke because the medicine made me nauseous......

Let me tell you how fun it is to puke with a broken core....

Then to top things off, I broke the other collar bone 3 weeks later in a stupid fall on some rocky terrain....lmfao!!! F'd up on that is the fall broke the right collar bone worse then the seat belt saving my life -> T-boning an f-150 at 70.....how the f does that happen?!?!?

Wow... Hope you're feeling better soon, mang. The percocet is no joke; hopefully you won't have side effects. I was prescribed percocet after surgery for a testicular torsion three weeks ago... Stuff made my fingers and toes feel all itchy, and it also made me sleepy... Then, to offset the itchy side effects, I had to take Benadryl, which also made me sleepy. I wasn't doing keto during the time, so the drugs and the carbs had me loopy the whole time.

[jaim91]

How's Canada day going?

I did demos for a protein company I work for. However the store was friggin' EMPTY because it's a statutory holiday...what are the plans for july 4?

[MarkVI]

I did demos for a protein company I work for. However the store was friggin' EMPTY because it's a statutory holiday...what are the plans for july 4?

To be honest, I have no plans for the 4th :(.....Both regular family parties were cancelled due to vacations or drama and my 2 best buds are out of town....ugh.

I may just stay home and write music since I decided this week/weekend would be a good time to run an inferno cycle with DNP (no hate, I like the stuff lol)....



Or I could always come to Canada!

[lleigh1981]

So I'm feeling a little under the weather: fatigued, feverish, etc. Typical flu symptoms that I was lamenting about in an email to my father. He told me if I ate better I'd probably feel a lot better. He suggested I start eating cereal and orange juice again. I then pointed out that all the food I eat is in its most natural state, and is not comprised of a list of chemicals including hydrogenated oil and HFCS.

I guess the older they are the harder it is to convince them.

[MarkVI]

So I'm feeling a little under the weather: fatigued, feverish, etc. Typical flu symptoms that I was lamenting about in an email to my father. He told me if I ate better I'd probably feel a lot better. He suggested I start eating cereal and orange juice again. I then pointed out that all the food I eat is in its most natural state, and is not comprised of a list of chemicals including hydrogenated oil and HFCS.

I guess the older they are the harder it is to convince them.

Your dad is dumb lol -- just kidding.

It's true though, why would we drink pure sugar regularly and regularly eat something makes us bloated and lethargic?

WHY I ASK YOU?!?!?!

[RU4A69]

So I'm feeling a little under the weather: fatigued, feverish, etc. Typical flu symptoms that I was lamenting about in an email to my father. He told me if I ate better I'd probably feel a lot better. He suggested I start eating cereal and orange juice again. I then pointed out that all the food I eat is in its most natural state, and is not comprised of a list of chemicals including hydrogenated oil and HFCS.

I guess the older they are the harder it is to convince them.

Flu symptoms? A true rarity among ketoers.

Have you been doing cardio lately?

[Nutir]

RANT: I was supposed to be in LA for the 4th of july but it got called of (a while ago, I just remember now because of all the threads about it :p) because of work :(

[lleigh1981]

Yes - 2 - 3 hours of soccer on Saturdays, 2 hours of softball on Sundays, walk 3 miles a day and I haven't been eating anywhere near my calories because my appetite is nil. Yesterday all I had was an avacado and 3 eggs.

Probably explains my symptoms.

[RU4A69]

Yes - 2 - 3 hours of soccer on Saturdays, 2 hours of softball on Sundays, walk 3 miles a day and I haven't been eating anywhere near my calories because my appetite is nil. Yesterday all I had was an avacado and 3 eggs.

Probably explains my symptoms.

That's a LOT. You prolly shot down your immune system.

Eat a couple cans of oysters. They'll boost your immune system and help you sleep/recover.

[lleigh1981]

That's a LOT. You prolly shot down your immune system.

Eat a couple cans of oysters. They'll boost your immune system and help you sleep/recover.

I will definitely try that - thanks for the advice!

[lleigh1981]

Your dad is dumb lol -- just kidding.



He also weighs 265 @ 6'0 - very little of which is lbm. And he's giving me health advice.

[MarkVI]

He also weighs 265 @ 6'0 - very little of which is lbm. And he's giving me health advice.

lol that's not surprising....


My mom gives me health advice and she's an alchoholic and just started smoking lol -- ahhhh, the ignorant.

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant: Why is it that people who drive cars do not respect that Cyclists have the same right to the road as they (here in my state at least).

[fudgetracks]

Rant: Why is it that people who drive cars do not respect that Cyclists have the same right to the road as they (here in my state at least).

.

I got rid of my fixed gear because it just wasn't safe to ride around out here.

[Stonecoldtruth]

.

I got rid of my fixed gear because it just wasn't safe to ride around out here.

I have a few bikes but I like riding my Giant TCR1 around town and drivers seem to think I should ride on the sidewalks. No offense but my bike is more expensive that a LOT of the cars I see on the ride.

[MarkVI]

Rant: Why is it that people who drive cars do not respect that Cyclists have the same right to the road as they (here in my state at least).

Why can't those damn cyclists get out of my way when I'm driving!!!???!?!












lol ;)

[walken1]

One of my Rants is that low carb/keto dieters are often guilty of the very thing that offends them from others: insisting that THEIR diet is the only good diet worthy of consideration. Personally, I have done both very low fat and very low carb. Each has its pros and cons but both can work well for long periods of time. In my own experience, nothing beats the very low fat diet for weight loss. If you don't have blood sugar issues and the carbs you eat are whole, healthy, non-processed carbs you can lose a considerable amount of body fat in a short period of time. The diet is so filling its almost impossible to overeat. I find I often lose too much weight when using a very low fat diet. In fact, I recently switched back to a much higher fat, low carb diet to prevent further weight/strenght loss. The problem with the very low fat diet is missing the important essential oils I get from salmon, sardines, nuts and seeds.....all fatty foods you can't have eating very low fat. The problem with the low carb diet, and the reason I only do it for 4 month or so before switching, is that you have to increase carbs at some point or your workouts and glycogen stores will be shot. Then I find myself eating more and more of the low carb foods for energy, which usually results in fat gain.

This brings me to my next rants: Idiots who insist that you won't gain weight as long as your carb and insulin levels are very low. BULL****! You see, fat is ALREADY FAT and doesn't need to be "converted" to fat as excess carbs do. It also DOES NOT need the action of insulin to find its way to the fat cells. It makes me sick when people say you need high insulin levels to gain fat. If that were true, our species would not have survived. A cave man living on the frozen tundra, eating nothing but meat and fat would not have been able to store the excess as bodyfat to insulate his body and get him through the times when food was unavailable...he would have starved or froze to death

[Shattering Fast]

He also weighs 265 @ 6'0 - very little of which is lbm. And he's giving me health advice.

You're exercising a great deal and taking in < 1000 cals. You could probably use the health advice.

[MistyT]

My rant of the day....

I JUST WANT SOME FRUIT.

[Eileen]

My rant of the day....

I JUST WANT SOME FRUIT.

Stew some rhubarb, top with whipped cream.

[MarkVI]

Or if you have to...this once....eat a handful of strawberries.

[MistyT]

Stew some rhubarb, top with whipped cream.

I'm going to have to try it!


Or if you have to...this once....eat a handful of strawberries.

LOL, nope! I may want it, but I won't give it!

[MarkVI]

I'm going to have to try it!



LOL, nope! I may want it, but I won't give it!

honestly, strawberries arent that bad.

They're one of my favorite foods of all time an I managed to make them KETO friendly....8 large ones with some heavy whipped cream.

[MarkVI]

This is aimed at KETOERS!




BEING IN KETOSIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE FAT ADAPTED

[MistyT]

honestly, strawberries arent that bad.

They're one of my favorite foods of all time an I managed to make them KETO friendly....8 large ones with some heavy whipped cream.

Yummy. How many carbs are in that?

[MarkVI]

Yummy. How many carbs are in that?

7 Maybe after fiber....

[Stonecoldtruth]

I'm starting keto again tomorrow morning now that I beat this chest cold.. thank god I hate carbs.

[MistyT]

7 Maybe after fiber....

Hum...I may have to keep a few around the house to snack on as a "special treat!"

MarkVI, I've only been on the keto section of the board for a few weeks, but your info it very helpful!

[beyondthesmile]

This is aimed at KETOERS!




BEING IN KETOSIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE FAT ADAPTED

I was actually just wondering about this the other day. How do you differentiate between the two? I am in ketosis according to my ketostix. How do I know if/when I am fat adapted?

[Eileen]

I was actually just wondering about this the other day. How do you differentiate between the two? I am in ketosis according to my ketostix. How do I know if/when I am fat adapted?

When you feel you have as much high intensity energy as before keto. Most people struggle a bit with cardio in the first couple of weeks. When you start breaking personal bests on keto, you are fat adapted.

[Nutir]

Just got my exams results back, I messed up pretty bad and failed in a definitive way. I expected it and the problem is not there tho.
What I know fear is how my dad is going to digest it (he was more into my studies than I was myself..), just told him and now just being around him is kinda awkward.
As some of you may know, I was planning on moving to the states (any state... just getting out of here) to study next fall because my dad finally got the picture, and now I dread he won't want to help me (pay..) for it.
I seriously haven't felt that bad in a long time, I don't know what the **** to do if I have to stay here, guess I'll get a job..


/end: wasn't really a rant, just felt like getting it out and don't know who I actually want to talk to this about.


another quick rant:

Why do people have to wake you up at 1am to see how you did on your exams ? it messed up my sleep pattern again :(

/rant

[Stonecoldtruth]

I'm so ready for tomorrow to be here. First full week back in the game. :D

[Quikfeet509]

Discovered this on Friday night:


1 week of ketosis + great beer* = total self-pwnage



Guess absolutely no beer for the next 8 weeks. Sigh.




[*not mass-produced, American lagers...I'm talking strong Belgian ales, robust porters and stouts, like those made by Brewery Ommegang, the local KC Smokestack series by Boulevard, or Old Rasputin by North Coast]

[Baboun]

My carb-up plan didn't turn out well, this girl at the bar wanted me to drink with her... I ended up spending 50$ on drinks + restaurant.. -_-

And she just want to be friends, what ...!

/rant

[ItalWHOP]

My carb-up plan didn't turn out well, this girl at the bar wanted me to drink with her... I ended up spending 50$ on drinks + restaurant.. -_-

And she just want to be friends, what ...!

/rant


It is the year 2008...women are more then allowed to pay their share.....if they take objection to that...move on... :)

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant.. :( 3 hours of sleep + starting keto today + boring day full of meetings at work = FOGGGY BRAIN

[beyondthesmile]

Rant.. :( 3 hours of sleep + starting keto today + boring day full of meetings at work = FOGGGY BRAIN

Blah, that sucks...hopefully your day goes by quickly so you can go home and catch up on missed sleep!

[beyondthesmile]

honestly, strawberries arent that bad.

They're one of my favorite foods of all time an I managed to make them KETO friendly....8 large ones with some heavy whipped cream.

I LOVE strawberries. I'll have to see if I can incorporate them into my diet. Yum.



Just got my exams results back, I messed up pretty bad and failed in a definitive way. I expected it and the problem is not there tho.
What I know fear is how my dad is going to digest it (he was more into my studies than I was myself..), just told him and now just being around him is kinda awkward.
As some of you may know, I was planning on moving to the states (any state... just getting out of here) to study next fall because my dad finally got the picture, and now I dread he won't want to help me (pay..) for it.
I seriously haven't felt that bad in a long time, I don't know what the **** to do if I have to stay here, guess I'll get a job..


/end: wasn't really a rant, just felt like getting it out and don't know who I actually want to talk to this about.


another quick rant:

Why do people have to wake you up at 1am to see how you did on your exams ? it messed up my sleep pattern again :(

/rant

Sorry to hear about the exams :( Good luck with your dad. Put your phone on silent before bed from now on!

[Brrcats]

First off I want to give you guys all the credit in the world, for you have a will power that I cannot understand. I thought I had good will power, but in order to keep a keto diet consistently longterm is definitely not for me.

I'm on my 6th day of my keto diet. I've been foggy, having a hard time sleeping, and having a hard time figuring out a variety of things to eat. I wanted to register my keto with the ketostix to make sure I was in before I started messing with my carbs to see how far I could push it while still being in keto. Last night I had a double cheeseburger, which had two slices of whole wheat bread, no HFCS, good stuff. Had some marinade and a little ketchup. I think a total of about 35g carbs for the meal. Sure enough, kicked me right out. I didnt register this morning.

I'm not living or dying by the ketostix, but man, that sucks.

but this stuff is rough, I love carbs.

[Stonecoldtruth]

Blah, that sucks...hopefully your day goes by quickly so you can go home and catch up on missed sleep!

I still need to go lift tonight, but a nap first might be in order :D

[Nutir]

Sorry to hear about the exams :( Good luck with your dad. Put your phone on silent before bed from now on!

Can't because of my job :(

[DJohnson]

First off I want to give you guys all the credit in the world, for you have a will power that I cannot understand. I thought I had good will power, but in order to keep a keto diet consistently longterm is definitely not for me.

I'm on my 6th day of my keto diet. I've been foggy, having a hard time sleeping, and having a hard time figuring out a variety of things to eat.

This is what I always thought too. I just thought keto wasn't for me. I always felt terrible and thought the high fat foods were unappealing without carbs. A year or two later I just tried it again recently and it's completely different. I've done a lot of carb cycling with 25% calories from carbs, 25% calories from fat and 50% calories from protein and I think this got me partially fat adapted, so when I tried keto again I feel great, crave the foods and have tons of energy. It's way way way easier to follow than the high protein carb cycling I was doing before.

I recommend you at least keep trying keto until you become more fat adapted.

[Stonecoldtruth]

Rant: Nearing the end of day one of full day back in keto, and wife had me make julienne potatoes, corn, and pork chops with a tasty seasoning... I hate her.

SCT

[beyondthesmile]

Rant: Nearing the end of day one of full day back in keto, and wife had me make julienne potatoes, corn, and pork chops with a tasty seasoning... I hate her.

SCT

She obviously did it on purpose :D

(J/K, lol!)

[Knux]

Rant: Nearing the end of day one of full day back in keto, and wife had me make julienne potatoes, corn, and pork chops with a tasty seasoning... I hate her.

SCT

Wow that sounds amazing.

Eat the pork chops? ;x

[MarkVI]

Just got my exams results back, I messed up pretty bad and failed in a definitive way. I expected it and the problem is not there tho.
What I know fear is how my dad is going to digest it (he was more into my studies than I was myself..), just told him and now just being around him is kinda awkward.
As some of you may know, I was planning on moving to the states (any state... just getting out of here) to study next fall because my dad finally got the picture, and now I dread he won't want to help me (pay..) for it.
I seriously haven't felt that bad in a long time, I don't know what the **** to do if I have to stay here, guess I'll get a job..


/end: wasn't really a rant, just felt like getting it out and don't know who I actually want to talk to this about.


another quick rant:

Why do people have to wake you up at 1am to see how you did on your exams ? it messed up my sleep pattern again :(

/rant


Convince your dad to let you move out to seattle -- I need a new roomate (yes for realz). You can pay half the rent and we'll call it even -- I can be your Keto Nazi.

[bigg_K]

My carb-up plan didn't turn out well, this girl at the bar wanted me to drink with her... I ended up spending 50$ on drinks + restaurant.. -_-

And she just want to be friends, what ...!

/rant

lol

reminds me of that one song...and she says he's just a friend........whaaaaaaat?????????? come on

no but really, if you met her in the bar that night you are the victim of a female player. beware :)

[Brrcats]

This is what I always thought too. I just thought keto wasn't for me. I always felt terrible and thought the high fat foods were unappealing without carbs. A year or two later I just tried it again recently and it's completely different. I've done a lot of carb cycling with 25% calories from carbs, 25% calories from fat and 50% calories from protein and I think this got me partially fat adapted, so when I tried keto again I feel great, crave the foods and have tons of energy. It's way way way easier to follow than the high protein carb cycling I was doing before.

I recommend you at least keep trying keto until you become more fat adapted.

I had resolved to do it for 2.5 weeks as a test run. after I fell out of keto the other day I quickly fell back in on Monday, so really no harm done there. I was in the gym again shortly yesterday, (until I tweaked my back again), and I shot out 5 sets of weighted pull ups, at the weights I had been doing a week or so ago before I was on keto. At that time I couldnt complete some of the sets. Yesterday i was able to hit the full reps on every set including my heavy set.

It was strange, but it was like I had limitless energy. However outside of that its still like my mind is in a fog. I have however, dropped 8 lbs since last wednesday. So its definitely doing something, I'm assuming part of that is water, but I'm staying well hydrated, so hopefully its not too much water.

[Nutir]

Convince your dad to let you move out to seattle -- I need a new roomate (yes for realz). You can pay half the rent and we'll call it even -- I can be your Keto Nazi.

lmao

If I could I would already be in the states, I have enough miles (:D) to get a free ticket and have a little money saved. But the fact that I couldn't get a "good" job (no visa/permit) is going to suck.
Moving isn't really the issue, it's paying for college. And I fear that seeing how I failed here he won't want to.