Dnp

[soboredvicshp]

Should I use DNP to lose fat quick?

[Conciliator]

Should I use DNP to lose fat quick?That's a pretty loaded question. Any answer should take into account your stats, goals, understanding of dieting prinicples, training history, and understanding of DNP.

If used intelligently, DNP results in unparalleled fat loss with minimal/moderate side effects and low risk. In the original research, DNP was used in overweight individuals for many months at a time with great success. This is the population that has the most health benefits to gain from losing excess weight. Many overweight people are fighting a thrifty metabolism that resists weight loss. DNP can be used as a powerful tool here. However, no drug should eclipse the importance of good training and dieting prinicples. If people are overweight because they don't understand how to diet, they should empower themselves with the knowledge to lose weight naturally. It's reasonable to argue that people should have experience dieting and training before using weight loss drugs. Additionally, there are risks involved with the use of any drug. DNP's risks are often grossly overstated, but there are risks. These risks should be weighed againt the benefits in each particular case.

[CF10]

That's a pretty loaded question. Any answer should take into account your stats, goals, understanding of dieting prinicples, training history, and understanding of DNP.

If used intelligently, DNP results in unparalleled fat loss with minimal/moderate side effects and low risk. In the original research, DNP was used in overweight individuals for many months at a time with great success. This is the population that has the most health benefits to gain from losing excess weight. Many overweight people are fighting a thrifty metabolism that resists weight loss. DNP can be used as a powerful tool here. However, no drug should eclipse the importance of good training and dieting prinicples. If people are overweight because they don't understand how to diet, they should empower themselves with the knowledge to lose weight naturally. It's reasonable to argue that people should have experience dieting and training before using weight loss drugs. Additionally, there are risks involved with the use of any drug. DNP's risks are often grossly overstated, but there are risks. These risks should be weighed againt the benefits in each particular case.


Good post, however I do not condone DNP usage among anyone who is not under the direct care of a professional health advisor. I am assuming here, but the original poster is probably not knowledgable, nor experienced enough to be using DNP. That is not an insult to him, most people are not.

To the OP, you dont need DNP. It is dangerous, people have died. It basically burns you up from the inside out. It is an extreme drug, and IMO if you are not a professional bodybuilder you should not even think about it. Stick to hard work and a great diet, you will see results and be healthy. DNP is not ephedrine, which can be used and abused and still be safe 99% of the time. DNP is very harsh and I urge you to seriously think before jumping into something like this.

[miss_carrie]

Should I use DNP to lose fat quick?

omg i KNEW it was you!!!! with your reeses peanut butter cups.....

[Conciliator]

Good post, however I do not condone DNP usage among anyone who is not under the direct care of a professional health advisor. I am assuming here, but the original poster is probably not knowledgable, nor experienced enough to be using DNP. That is not an insult to him, most people are not.

To the OP, you dont need DNP. It is dangerous, people have died. It basically burns you up from the inside out. It is an extreme drug, and IMO if you are not a professional bodybuilder you should not even think about it. Stick to hard work and a great diet, you will see results and be healthy. DNP is not ephedrine, which can be used and abused and still be safe 99% of the time. DNP is very harsh and I urge you to seriously think before jumping into something like this.It basically burns you up from the inside out? You should mention that this only happens if you overdose on it, which is quite the rarity. With a proper dosage, no one gets burned up from the inside out.

I think it's far too extreme to say that only professional bodybuilders who are under the direct care of a professional health advisor should be taking DNP. Thousands of health conscious people have taken DNP safely and are thrilled with the results. Most of the guides on the internet are poor pieces of work, but it's really not that hard to run a safe cycle if you put forth a small effort. Deaths are extremely rare, while exceptional results are the norm. I agree, however, that most people do not know how to run a cycle safely. Fortunately, those who end up buying DNP and using it usually take it very seriously, spending a good deal of time researching it and learning about it. Unfortunately, there are hardly any good resources.

DNP is not necessarily "very harsh". People pigeonhole DNP all the time without realizing or mentioning that the side effects are dose-dependant. At a low dosage of 200mg/day, you can increase your metabolic rate 30% and have minimal to no side effects. People often push the envelope, experience bad sides, and then blame the DNP, when they're the ones essentially choosing the unwelcome sides via an excessive dosage. DNP can be used with minimal side effects at a dosage that's still profoundly effective.

[CF10]

It basically burns you up from the inside out? You should mention that this only happens if you overdose on it, which is quite the rarity. With a proper dosage, no one gets burned up from the inside out.

I think it's far too extreme to say that only professional bodybuilders who are under the direct care of a professional health advisor should be taking DNP. Thousands of health conscious people have taken DNP safely and are thrilled with the results. Most of the guides on the internet are poor pieces of work, but it's really not that hard to run a safe cycle if you put forth a small effort. Deaths are extremely rare, while exceptional results are the norm. I agree, however, that most people do not know how to run a cycle safely. Fortunately, those who end up buying DNP and using it usually take it very seriously, spending a good deal of time researching it and learning about it. Unfortunately, there are hardly any good resources.

DNP is not necessarily "very harsh". People pigeonhole DNP all the time without realizing or mentioning that the side effects are dose-dependant. At a low dosage of 200mg/day, you can increase your metabolic rate 30% and have minimal to no side effects. People often push the envelope, experience bad sides, and then blame the DNP, when they're the ones essentially choosing the unwelcome sides via an excessive dosage. DNP can be used with minimal side effects at a dosage that's still profoundly effective.

Im sure you are right about the negative effects being over-exaggerated, as most supplements are. I dont know a lot about DNP except for what Ive read on the internet. I was just saying that a DNP overdose would yield far worse sides than an overdose or misuse of another fat burner, and in my opinion, these risks are not worth it when the same results can be achieved (albeit over a longer time and with more effort). This is why I say it should only be used for competition, when time is essential (the bb'r can devote more time to muscle gain and only a few weeks to fat loss due to the DNP).

[Conciliator]

Im sure you are right about the negative effects being over-exaggerated, as most supplements are. I dont know a lot about DNP except for what Ive read on the internet. I was just saying that a DNP overdose would yield far worse sides than an overdose or misuse of another fat burner, and in my opinion, these risks are not worth it when the same results can be achieved (albeit over a longer time and with more effort). This is why I say it should only be used for competition, when time is essential (the bb'r can devote more time to muscle gain and only a few weeks to fat loss due to the DNP).Your recommendation is definitely reasonable. Good response.

[tjthetank]

sorry to sound like an idiot but what is DNP as i have never heard of it.

[magnumfreak]

sorry to sound like an idiot but what is DNP as i have never heard of it.

it is a very effective albeit an illegal (in the U.S. anyway) weight loss drug.

[HerveDuchemin]

Should I use DNP to lose fat quick?

Here we go again lol You should run a search on DNP in the threads before making a post like this because we've provided answers before. I got my first and only neg from Conciliator on a DNP comment I made on a posting just like this one. Conciliator is a DNP expert though I must say :)

[Conciliator]

I got my first and only neg from Conciliator on a DNP comment I made on a posting just like this one.Are you serious? Sorry about that man. Makes me feel bad after you responded with such sincerity to find out more.

My rep has been shot to hell since I neg people often who then just neg me in return, lol. A good example are the negs I got in return from Bladen and MixedMan in this thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1006126. Bladen's neg comment was enlightening: "win one maybe two national titles and an itnernational title and you can talk ****". I think he knows there were no intellectual grounds to neg me on. He was just pissed he was wrong.

[raysmith]

Should I use DNP to lose fat quick?

No, you should eat loads of food instead.

[vein5]

I have been dieting for 15 weeks and am at about 11-12% B/F. I was trying to get my hands on this stuff for a month now but I can't find a source. Can anyone help me out here?

[nithos]

it is a very effective albeit an illegal (in the U.S. anyway) weight loss drug.
Actually, it's an insecticide, acaricide, and fungicide which someone had the bright idea to ingest. If you want to call that a weight loss drug, go for it.

[magnumfreak]

Actually, it's an insecticide, acaricide, and fungicide which someone had the bright idea to ingest. If you want to call that a weight loss drug, go for it.

LOL! Very true. It was also used as an explosive back in the 1900's. Thanks for keeping me straight.

[soboredvicshp]

omg i KNEW it was you!!!! with your reeses peanut butter cups.....

I'm probably just the evil twin of the person you are thinking about. Plus, I don't like reeses peanut butter cups, I prefer the new crispy reeses peanut butter bars.

[soboredvicshp]

Actually, it's an insecticide, acaricide, and fungicide which someone had the bright idea to ingest. If you want to call that a weight loss drug, go for it.

Is that bad?

[soboredvicshp]

bump

[HerveDuchemin]

Are you serious? Sorry about that man. Makes me feel bad after you responded with such sincerity to find out more.

My rep has been shot to hell since I neg people often who then just neg me in return, lol. A good example are the negs I got in return from Bladen and MixedMan in this thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1006126. Bladen's neg comment was enlightening: "win one maybe two national titles and an itnernational title and you can talk ****". I think he knows there were no intellectual grounds to neg me on. He was just pissed he was wrong.

I didn't neg you because you backed up what you said. I don't neg anyway. But I don't mind getting negged either, I think it's pretty funny hehe

[soboredvicshp]

i get negged too and it makes me have low self esteem.

[HerveDuchemin]

Are you serious? Sorry about that man. Makes me feel bad after you responded with such sincerity to find out more.

My rep has been shot to hell since I neg people often who then just neg me in return, lol. A good example are the negs I got in return from Bladen and MixedMan in this thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1006126. Bladen's neg comment was enlightening: "win one maybe two national titles and an itnernational title and you can talk ****". I think he knows there were no intellectual grounds to neg me on. He was just pissed he was wrong.

i looked at the post, i cant believe you got negged for that. crazy. i mean you were pretty harsh with me with your DNP post, but you were fair. it's like how i used to get when people would bad mouth clenbuterol, and then call it a steroid, not knowing what they were talking about. thats why i didn't mind. DNP is one of the few sub's i dont know much about...thats why i admitted my knowledge of it was based not on personal experience but from what people say and what i've read.

[magnumfreak]

Is that bad?

could be but anything can be lethal if used incorrectly.

[guy_liftin]

At a low dosage of 200mg/day, you can increase your metabolic rate 30% and have minimal to no side effects.


As you said, there are very few and poor resources on the internet about using this drug. I would be scared to use it at 200mg/day. Looking at this publication (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16803658&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum) would not make me want to take 200mg. Seems like one guy had 28mg DNP/L of blood, so assuming a 5L blood volume it would bring up the DNP amount in his body to 140mg. I'm not saying that it means 140 mg would kill you, but the article would make me want to think so. But it does say that the amount in admission blood sample was 140mg. That means it was 140mg before any of the blood "flushing" or whatever procedures were done. So it gives me mixed feelings. Just wanted to put this out for discussion.

[soboredvicshp]

Last time I checked, 140mg in the blood for example, doesn't mean the person only took 140mg. DNP mainly goes into cells (I.E. NOT THE BLOOD FFS) and fat cells which are a solvent in the body. You would have to take a large amount to get 140mg just running around in the blood.

[lordofchaos]

Last time I checked, 140mg in the blood for example, doesn't mean the person only took 140mg. DNP mainly goes into cells (I.E. NOT THE BLOOD FFS) and fat cells which are a solvent in the body. You would have to take a large amount to get 140mg just running around in the blood.
Or be tested shortly after taking your dosage before most of it has been absorbed out of the blood stream...

[soboredvicshp]

Why do you feel diffusion takes a long time?

Herve you are my new best friend, I <3 u man! Great success for you!

[HerveDuchemin]

Why do you feel diffusion takes a long time?

Herve you are my new best friend, I <3 u man! Great success for you!

hey thanks a lot :)