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user345008781
05-29-2008, 12:38 AM
I was just curious, how much more weight on average can one do with deadlift compared to bench e.g. 20kg more or 40kg or more? There's usually some kind of rough rule for these things.

Thanks!

Crypty
05-29-2008, 12:40 AM
No rule. They are totally different. Don't work any of the same muscles.

user345008781
05-29-2008, 12:42 AM
All i want to know is how much more people can dedlift compared to their bench.

Crypty
05-29-2008, 12:47 AM
It depends on the person. It can be 0 pounds or it can be 300 pounds.

user345008781
05-29-2008, 01:00 AM
It depends on the person. It can be 0 pounds or it can be 300 pounds.

300? lol

floydj57
05-29-2008, 01:01 AM
http://www.lonkilgore.com/usawrdc/strength_standards.pdf

Assuming balanced strength, here are some typical 1rm for different body weights. You can see the gap widens as strength increases.

Here's the metric version:

http://macgyver.daug.net/sports/strength_standards_metric/strength_standards_metric.pdf

user345008781
05-29-2008, 01:36 AM
http://www.lonkilgore.com/usawrdc/strength_standards.pdf

Assuming balanced strength, here are some typical 1rm for different body weights. You can see the gap widens as strength increases.

Here's the metric version:

http://macgyver.daug.net/sports/strength_standards_metric/strength_standards_metric.pdf

Cheers man, useful sheet. Although i feel weak now looking at that lol!

thael
05-29-2008, 07:14 AM
My bench max in high school - 195
My dead lift max in high school - 505

Now I don't know what either of them would be. Typically Dead Lift weight > Squat weight > Bench Weight though I know a lot of guys who bench more than they squat (lol).

erebusii
05-29-2008, 07:52 AM
Even in a guy like me, who's relatively weak and untrained there is a difference.

My bench press: 135 ~ 140 on a good day.
My Deadlift: 220 lbs so far, with a pronated grip, not the alternating one some powerlifters use

I'd like to see my Bench at 200, Deadlift at 300, and Squat at 300. Will take some time lol

Ochman44
05-29-2008, 08:08 AM
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1823834

This article has a good idea of what your lifts should be.

MoGeaYuglay
05-29-2008, 02:16 PM
http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1823834

This article has a good idea of what your lifts should be.

well, i hate "what you oughta be doing" standards.

be concerned if your bench is higher than your squat and deads, thats about the only reasonable standard there is.

Kiknskreem
05-29-2008, 02:23 PM
be concerned if your bench is higher than your squat and deads, thats about the only reasonable standard there is.

Not really. In healthy, well roudned athletes one most often sees something like this...

Deadlifts > Squats > Bench Press > Power clean/Strict Row > Strict Press

Marc27Default
05-29-2008, 03:30 PM
Not really. In healthy, well roudned athletes one most often sees something like this...

Deadlifts > Squats > Bench Press > Power clean/Strict Row > Strict Press

agreed...

Lets say 500lb deadlift.
I think you should have a 400-450 squat (on the lower side if it is a deep full squat)
300 bench press and 300 full clean
250-275 powerclean
200-225 press

every one is different so these could be + or - 10%

Carmen0857
05-29-2008, 03:57 PM
All i want to know is how much more people can dedlift compared to their bench.

Check my sig, however I am built better for DL than benching.

spot_skater
05-29-2008, 05:10 PM
Check my sig. and stats, as well.

Pretty much follows dead lift> squat> bench press> row> overhead press

Emmortal
05-29-2008, 05:35 PM
Some people are just better pressers than they are pullers, and vice versa. Generally, however, dead lift weight should be higher than bench. You are incorporating a larger group of muscles to do the lift compared to the bench press.

TheIronOwl
05-29-2008, 05:39 PM
70kg dif me.