Best Overall Pre-Workout Energy/Pump Supplement?

[admin]

If you had to pick just ONE pre-workout product for energy and/or pump, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take pre-workout products, if you should take pre-workout products, or why some pre-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite pre-workout product and give your detailed reason.)

[TJ2000]

FIRST

Just one?
Cause I have 3 I want to put down but if only one..............
I'd say superpump 250.
But I want to list metrx amped and NO shotgun too.

[email_mikel]

White Flood does the trick for me. I mix it with GreenMAG. Great focus and energy!!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

White Flood does the trick for me. I mix it with GreenMAG. Great focus and energy!!

absolutely, WHITE FLOOD, is a great product and you get 50 workouts per tub, so its a great value too :)

[jpetitclerc]

I would say White Flood too. Long live CL.

Not only it gives good energy, pumps, etc etc. The focus is unbelievable. It may sound weird but I took some the other day to focus for my exam and I got 100%, LOL!

But yeah. Not only it gives good Energy/Pumps/Focus and Nitric Oxide, but it mix really well with other product from CL like Purple Wraath & Green MAGnitude to give a better effect.

Anyway, just my two cents.

[Vitalshok44]

by VPX Is by far and away the best pre-workout product I have tried I think it has a very complete mixture, I have yet to find a pre-workout/ no product that has a BCAA in it. A reasonable amount of creatine and glutamine as well. Also I feel it has an excellent energy matrix, not quite as potent as red line. But close.it also has beta-alanine in it, and I believe it was one of the first NO products to incorporate it, but I'm not positive.

The taste is pretty good as well, now that they've improved it, nothing spectacular but it is about results! after all not taste.

I find the focus that it gives me is solid, it gets into my system quite quickly because it is ethyl ester, there's some debate whether or not matters, all I know is I take it and within 10 to 15 minutes, I! am! ready! to! go!

sounds like I'm propagandizing I know but I strongly believe in this product and I had very very good results with it.

[Beast2Be]

At the moment, my favorite is Ragnarok. It's got one of the best profile's around and gives the best pumps/energy imaginable. I just bought White Flood though, so my opinion may change :)

[sasho]

Ive Used White Flood As Well And Really Like It. Is The Vanadyl Sulfate In There, The Reason For The Extra Good Pumps? Cause I Was Reading On It, And This Mineral Is Meant To Be Incredible. After I Used White Flood Ive Now Ordered Some On Its Own. Any Feedback?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Ive Used White Flood As Well And Really Like It. Is The Vanadyl Sulfate In There, The Reason For The Extra Good Pumps? Cause I Was Reading On It, And This Mineral Is Meant To Be Incredible. After I Used White Flood Ive Now Ordered Some On Its Own. Any Feedback?

no, vanadyl was a minor ingredient and was removed a few months back due to customer demand. the extra good pumps come from our arginine and ornthine blend.

[PAZ14]

i gotta say trac no. iv taken superpump250 and the no shotgun and both did a number on my stomach. dont get me wrong the pump was good but the trac no seems to give me a better rush of energy and strength. It doesnt upset my stomach and the taste is great,

" cant workout without it" workouts will never be the same

[Geneticz]

No Shotgun definitly did a number on my stomach as well, but the pumps were unbelievable

[Vitalshok44]

The way I had it figured was that, the 10 minutes of upset stomach I got, paled in comparison to the awesome pump! :-)

[redsox03]

Pump: White Flood
Energy: NO Xplode

White Flood still gives me energy, but NO Xplode gives me a little more. I get no pump with NO Xplode. Crazy pumps with WF, it's the best of both worlds IMO.

If I could only use 1, it would be White Flood.

[scottymac710]

Has anyone tried "Fierce" (Heart of a Lion lol) ??

[triglyceride]

NO SHOTGUN

[nelsong6969]

i tried black powder, nano vapor, n.o. plasmacore, superpump250. and i would rate them in that order.....but my brother likes superpump250, nano vapor, black powder, then n.o. plasmacore...so guess that shows how nobody is the same

[OhioUstud]

amp2..... pretty much addicted now


just wish it wasnt so hard on my heart!

[Vitalshok44]

Has anyone tried "Fierce" (Heart of a Lion lol) ??

yes, it would have to be my second overall choice :-) if you have a problem with the taste of shotgun it's a great second choice

[tylerdernigan]

No Explode vs. Na-NO Vapor vs. NO-Shotgun

No Xplode: fruit punch
gives a caffine high; which can be good for a little energy but there is definitely a crash after lifting. Also you build a tolerance very fast. I had to double the dose after just 1 week. Pumps are pretty good. nothing special when compared to other No products. The price is better than Na NO vapor but still higher than ive seen Animal Pump go for (30$ on ******************). I didnt notice increased focus other than the caffine energy. The taste was actually not bad. Definitely the best of all 3. Not somthing i would drink for the taste but it is a plus that i dont have to hold my nose and chug.
Energy4/5
Focus 2/5
Pumps 3/5
Tolerance1/5
Taste 4/5
Price 3/5


Na-NO vapor: (fruit punch)
Im a big fan of this product because of the incredible enrergy it gives me and mental focus. I feel that its more than just a caffine buzz. i actually get more focussed and ready to lift. It gives about the same pumps as No-xplode; nothing special but its there. Tolerance is much better than No-xplode i feel that i can get through most of the bottle without getting used to the effects. BUT the biggest drawback of NaNo vapor is its price. Its the most expensive that ive seen on most websites, and i saw it at GNC for 79.99 for the larger bottle. I dont know if anyone actually pays that ( i feel bad if they do) but i know im not ready to spend 80$ on a preworkout drink. Taste also leaves somthing to be desired. I got used to it, but the first time i could barely get it down and missed the taste of NO-xplode.
Energy 5/5
Focus 5/5
Pumps 3/5
Tolerance 4/5
Taste 2/5
Price 1/5

NO-Shotgun
I got 5 free samples of this from vitamin world about 2 weeks ago while i was waiting for my Na-No vapor to come in the mail. I took 3 days of 1 packet and then the 4th day i took 2 packets. I feel that this product is even more of just a caffine product than No-Xplode. I just got pure caffine energy which lasted about 45 min. followed by a crash. I do have to say that it was a kick in the ass for those 45 min. I wasnt any more focussed so this product loses points with me. i did notice that my thoughts were racing and my eyes were darting and i couldnt sit still (caffine), and i didnt really like these effects which also makes it lose points. the taste is the worst out of all three. it was like the flouride that you get at the dentist, absolutely disgusting and i had to force it down all the way. I didnt see any difference in a pump from one you would get while lifting without it. Ive seen prices range with this product but it usually falls between Noxplode and Vapor. I didnt take this product long enough to judge Tolerance but i know that i did have to double my dosage on the 4th day to see same effects; because it is caffine energy i would say the tolerance is similar to No-xplode.
Energy 5/5
Focus 1/5
Pumps 1/5
Tolerance 1/5
Taste 1/5
Price 3/5

The winner of these three IMO is Vapor. (2. No-Xplode 3. Shotgun) . If you can afford it i would pick this one because its not just caffine energy but gives you some additional focus as well.
I will be trying Animal PUMP in the near future and will update.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Pump: White Flood
Energy: NO Xplode

White Flood still gives me energy, but NO Xplode gives me a little more. I get no pump with NO Xplode. Crazy pumps with WF, it's the best of both worlds IMO.

If I could only use 1, it would be White Flood.

glad you are enjoying white flood so much and at 50 servings you get a amazing deal as well :)

[scottymac710]

yes, it would have to be my second overall choice :-) if you have a problem with the taste of shotgun it's a great second choice

Thanks for the reply bro, i had just picked up a tub of it when i made my previous post. Tried it out for the first time last night and above all the taste is AMAZING! tastes like overly sweet orange juice with a nice tangy flavor to it. I was workin my Bi's during my workout and got a GREAT pump also, though i noticed it decreased rather quickly compared to some other products I've tried. Energy was really good, but I've had other products that have def given me more (tho my caffeine resistance is through the roof). Overall I'm really happy with the product (especially since i got it 50% off at a local store!) =)

[scottymac710]

Overall my rating of Pre-workout supps (as far as energy, NO effect is a slightly different story) would be...

NO Shotgun - 9/10
NO Explode - 7.5/10
Fast Twitch - 8.5/10
Fierce - 8/10
NaNO Vapor - 8.5/10

[HowardsRock]

amp2..... pretty much addicted now


just wish it wasnt so hard on my heart!

Co-sign. Amplify 02 is RI-F'IN-DICULOUS.

[terrafunka]

SciVation VasoCharge really helps get me going. :)

[jhem23]

i been switching between NO-XPLODE and Super Pump 250....seems like i get more focus and pump with SP250!

[XxSetTripp1n]

i tried super pump 250 for the first time yesterday and got muscle ripping reps. i hit a point in my work out where my mind was still able to work out, but my body gave up. the first time is always the best though. im going to do it again today and see if i get the same results.

btw does anyone think i should mix the orange flavor in milk????

when should i start cycling off and for how long should i stay cycled off

[lromanes]

royal maca (liquid)
Superpump 250

;)

[CBinns23]

NO Shotgun 9.5/10
Whiteflood 8.5/10
Shock Therapy 8.5/10
NO Explode 6.5/10
NaNo Vapor 7/10

Ratings are considering energy and pump foremost.

Shotgun is by far the best and the bonus of protein and creatine is nice to have. With the BOGO it is a great deal....and when that goes away whiteflood and shock therapy are great for its effectiveness and price. NO Explode and NaNo Vapor both in my opinion were the last ones you should buy.

[13bret]

horsepower rules, if you can deal with the BA tingle

[bigliftin16]

NaNo Vapor is definitely the best product out. i haven't tried very many but i don't really want to. i'm so focused when i use it. 2 thumbs up.

[CBinns23]

NaNo Vapor is definitely the best product out. i haven't tried very many but i don't really want to. i'm so focused when i use it. 2 thumbs up.

it would be good for you if you havent tried very many....

guarantee youd be amazed by NO Shotgun

[scottymac710]

i gotta say trac no. iv taken superpump250 and the no shotgun and both did a number on my stomach. dont get me wrong the pump was good but the trac no seems to give me a better rush of energy and strength. It doesnt upset my stomach and the taste is great,

" cant workout without it" workouts will never be the same

I just got a 15 pack box of trac and ive been taking it this past week most workouts, i prefer an energized pre-workout drink most of the time (ive actually been adding a mini scoop of fast twitch in with the trac) but the TRAC has given me some of the best pumps and crazy vascularity like ive never had with another product. Def lovin it, if they had caffeinated trac id be all over that..

[Geoff_Saari]

Fast Twitch by Cytosport

[BigSkiPU]

I tried NO Xplode and at first I loved it but when I was about half way done with the tub the effects started to wear off and it would actually make me tired in the gym. As a result I had to up my serving to 2.5 scoops which sucked cuz then I ran through the tub really fast. Now I just purchased the 2 for 1 No Shotgun and I love it! It's way better than No Xplode and I dont think I will ever go back go No Xplode. Im looking forward to trying white flood, superpump 250, and black powder. Those products seem to be really good also.

[jgood]

N.O xplode is decent as far as energy goes but you get use to it pretty quick like at the 1/4 or 1/2 of the tub point. MRI Black Powder is pretty good for endurance and recovery but doesn't give the same energy. I would go with both if I could switch them off and on.

What would be best to mix with white flood ... green mag or purple wrath? something else?

[veotis]

No Explode vs. Na-NO Vapor vs. NO-Shotgun

Na-NO vapor: (fruit punch)
Im a big fan of this product because of the incredible enrergy it gives me and mental focus. I feel that its more than just a caffine buzz. i actually get more focussed and ready to lift. It gives about the same pumps as No-xplode; nothing special but its there. Tolerance is much better than No-xplode i feel that i can get through most of the bottle without getting used to the effects. BUT the biggest drawback of NaNo vapor is its price. Its the most expensive that ive seen on most websites, and i saw it at GNC for 79.99 for the larger bottle. I dont know if anyone actually pays that ( i feel bad if they do) but i know im not ready to spend 80$ on a preworkout drink. Taste also leaves somthing to be desired. I got used to it, but the first time i could barely get it down and missed the taste of NO-xplode.
Energy 5/5
Focus 5/5
Pumps 3/5
Tolerance 4/5
Taste 2/5
Price 1/5



Nano Vapor is not that expensive. For 48.99 here at BB.com, you get 54 servings. That'll last you for a while. You get 60 servings of NoExplode for 49.99. Years ago, before NoExplode changed their formula, I had to use 2 servings to feel it. You definitely don't have to use 2 servings of Nano Vapor.

[JayKL149]

If your going for just a boost of energy before a workout I have just taken a prolab caffeine pill (200mg) I have taken NO-Xplode before a workout it seemed the only energy enhancement it had in it was the caffeine, so why not just save money and take a caffeine pill 100pills for $5.00.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I tried NO Xplode and at first I loved it but when I was about half way done with the tub the effects started to wear off and it would actually make me tired in the gym. As a result I had to up my serving to 2.5 scoops which sucked cuz then I ran through the tub really fast. Now I just purchased the 2 for 1 No Shotgun and I love it! It's way better than No Xplode and I dont think I will ever go back go No Xplode. Im looking forward to trying white flood, superpump 250, and black powder. Those products seem to be really good also.
looking forward to your feedback on white flood when you give it a go :)

N.O xplode is decent as far as energy goes but you get use to it pretty quick like at the 1/4 or 1/2 of the tub point. MRI Black Powder is pretty good for endurance and recovery but doesn't give the same energy. I would go with both if I could switch them off and on.

What would be best to mix with white flood ... green mag or purple wrath? something else?
white flood and green mag are a great combo, but many use all three. white flood mixed with green magnitude preworkout and purple wraath during the workout

[efewe]

white flood and green mag are a great combo, but many use all three. white flood mixed with green magnitude preworkout and purple wraath during the workout

I've stacked almost every CL product now, and I've also used SP250 & another pre-workout called "Armageddon" The latter was crap, in fact I used it twice then gave the tub to my brother-in-law.

My most effective stack was probably the WF, GM, PW along w/ GlycerGrow. I had awesome workouts w/ plenty of enery & focus. Not to mention some pretty noticeable results.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've stacked almost every CL product now, and I've also used SP250 & another pre-workout called "Armageddon" The latter was crap, in fact I used it twice then gave the tub to my brother-in-law.

My most effective stack was probably the WF, GM, PW along w/ GlycerGrow. I had awesome workouts w/ plenty of enery & focus. Not to mention some pretty noticeable results.
that is awesome, thanks for the feedback. which flavors of each did you get?

[jgood]

I just ordered purple wrath, green mag and white flood can't wait I should have it by the end of the week. Might look into getting blueup and glycergrow too depending on how things go for a couple weeks or so.

Is REDuction the replacement for Red ACID?

[An Inconvenient Bro]

that is awesome, thanks for the feedback. which flavors of each did you get?

Hey Klaft howzit? As long as you're here maybe you can answer a question. How come you chose to include arginine in one form or another in white blood and white flood?

kthx

[leonidas300]

Hey Klaft howzit? As long as you're here maybe you can answer a question. How come you chose to include arginine in one form or another in white blood and white flood?

kthx

Why are you such a poopy head? ;)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I just ordered purple wrath, green mag and white flood can't wait I should have it by the end of the week. Might look into getting blueup and glycergrow too depending on how things go for a couple weeks or so.

Is REDuction the replacement for Red ACID?
yes, REDuction did replace RED acid. at 20 years old blue up probably wouldnt be the best use of your money. :)

[Beast2Be]

yes, REDuction did replace RED acid. at 20 years old blue up probably wouldnt be the best use of your money. :)

It really just depends on the person. I did a 8 week cycle of Blue Up last year (21 years old) and ended up really liking it. I may have low test levels though :(

[CONTROLLED LABS]

It really just depends on the person. I did a 8 week cycle of Blue Up last year (21 years old) and ended up really liking it. I may have low test levels though :(
yeah, its person dependent, but generically speaking a 20 year old has better options than a test booster unless they have low free test.

[jgood]

Yeah I think I will do glycergrow for sure but I will just see on the other ones ... unless I want to feel like more of a man and get more test lol. :)

[An Inconvenient Bro]

Hey Klaft howzit? As long as you're here maybe you can answer a question. How come you chose to include arginine in one form or another in white blood and white flood?

kthx

bump!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Yeah I think I will do glycergrow for sure but I will just see on the other ones ... unless I want to feel like more of a man and get more test lol. :)

sounds good, no need to jump into too many at one time, add them in in a few weeks :)

[StandStrong]

No Shotgun

[An Inconvenient Bro]

Hey Klaft howzit? As long as you're here maybe you can answer a question. How come you chose to include arginine in one form or another in white blood and white flood?

kthx

bumperino Jonny!

[little lats]

bumperino Jonny!


I think uz being ignored....

[razors_edge]

For me, it comes down to either BLACK POWDER from MRI or naNO Vapor from muscletech. As much as I hate muscle tech, I think naNO-Vapor is the one. It also helped me loose alot of belly fat

[An Inconvenient Bro]

I think uz being ignored....

boooooooo



I guess I wont get an answer from Klaft almighty :(

[Elliptical Envy]

boooooooo



I guess I wont get an answer from Klaft almighty :(

You know you can't ask him/them ****. :D

[leonidas300]

boooooooo



I guess I wont get an answer from Klaft almighty :(

He dodged your questions like a Ninja.

[Jmurphz33]

I'm gonna go with NO Shotgun, by VPX.
I've been using No-Explod, SP250 a bit, and vitamin world's version (Nos Blast) for a while.

The NO Shotgun isn't overly sweet or intense, but a decent taste, and I got a great pump out of it... the last two workouts on it have been my best in a while. Try it out, I think it's still BOGO on here!

[Pbmiyagi91]

looking forward to your feedback on white flood when you give it a go :)

white flood and green mag are a great combo, but many use all three. white flood mixed with green magnitude preworkout and purple wraath during the workout

is it cool to take white flood and white blood at the same time
i also take green mag with it and am considering taking purple wrath also

[CONTROLLED LABS]

is it cool to take white flood and white blood at the same time
i also take green mag with it and am considering taking purple wrath also

you can take white flood preworkout and white blood before bed. no need to take both at the same time

[Pbmiyagi91]

you can take white flood preworkout and white blood before bed. no need to take both at the same time

but if i took wf 60 min PW and wb 30 min PW
would i getter a better pump
and how well would purple wrath fit into that

[CONTROLLED LABS]

but if i took wf 60 min PW and wb 30 min PW
would i getter a better pump
and how well would purple wrath fit into that

no, there is no need for both at the same time window. purple wraath would be taken intraworkout

[jwallace1985]

i tried powdered arginine for the first time today about 30min prior to workout. i took 2 scoops (9 grams). it didnt help with any energy boost, but my pumps were amazing! and it was only $30 for 30 servings@9 grams/serving. i think im going to use this with maybe a scoop of fast twitch mixed in it. i have had really good results with fast twitch so far for energy gains.

[Pbmiyagi91]

no, there is no need for both at the same time window. purple wraath would be taken intraworkout

ok, what purpose does the white blood serve at night i thought it was for pumps

[jgood]

Just got my pw, gm and wb today man that was fast considering I ordered Monday and did basic shipping.

[sweatness]

i would have to choose white flood i have tried it and gosh i am so focused it's crazy. it makes me want to work all day. i also get a lot of energy from it so it prvents me from sittin all the time and i go runin or somethin

[CONTROLLED LABS]

ok, what purpose does the white blood serve at night i thought it was for pumps
hormonal and deep sleep regulation, try it and you will see the light errr, drakness :D

Just got my pw, gm and wb today man that was fast considering I ordered Monday and did basic shipping.
very fast, nice :)

i would have to choose white flood i have tried it and gosh i am so focused it's crazy. it makes me want to work all day. i also get a lot of energy from it so it prvents me from sittin all the time and i go runin or somethin
awesome, thanks for the feedback.

[Lean-n-Mean]

SciVation VasoCharge really helps get me going. :)

Vaso+Xtends= big pumps ans great gains.

[Pbmiyagi91]

hormonal and deep sleep regulation, try it and you will see the light errr, drakness :D

very fast, nice :)

awesome, thanks for the feedback.

ok i just took it like an hour ago so we'll see how it goes i quess i took it to close to white flood yesterday because my face was burning like craZY it felt like i had really bad sunburn

[CONTROLLED LABS]

ok i just took it like an hour ago so we'll see how it goes i quess i took it to close to white flood yesterday because my face was burning like craZY it felt like i had really bad sunburn

that is the beta alanine from white flood and is perfectly normal with all beta alanine supplements

[An Inconvenient Bro]

He dodged your questions like a Ninja.

indeed..... but this is the same ninja that ASSURED me I was wrong when I heard Vitamin worlds were DC'ing the line.

[JSeligman]

Animal Pump!

I have tried Superpump, NO Xplode, and Plasmacore, so far nothing comes close.


The next on my list is White Flood

[ee09]

I have only tried a few, but my favorite is by far:

San Vault- This is the best product I have ever used. It taste pretty bad. though. I always make big jumps in strength when I am using it. I also liked V-12 a lot but it has been a couple of years since I took it, so I can't really compare to the products I have taken recently.

next would be White Flood
I liked this product a lot at first, but I got sort of immune to after a few weeks. I actually saved a couple of weeks worth from my last jug to take again after a couple of months off of it. WF did give a lot of energy though.

I am currently taking NO Shotgun
I have only taken it 4 days now, but it is another good product . Once I take a little more of it I will be able to review it better.

My least favorite No-xplode
I traded a weeks worth of Vault for a weeks worth of No-xplode with my brother-in-law. I took it for a week and never thought about buying it after that. My brother-in-law never bought No-xplode after that again either.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Animal Pump!

I have tried Superpump, NO Xplode, and Plasmacore, so far nothing comes close.


The next on my list is White Flood

great, looking forward to your feedback on it :)

[newrestler]

i agree with you guys about NO explode. It seems to work for a little while and then you build a tolerance to it. Plus it tastes horrible. too bad i still got 1/2 a bottle left :(

Super pump 250 seems to work much better and asual taste alright

[Pbmiyagi91]

i agree with you guys about NO explode. It seems to work for a little while and then you build a tolerance to it. Plus it tastes horrible. too bad i still got 1/2 a bottle left :(

Super pump 250 seems to work much better and asual taste alright

i think the blue raz is delicious although the pump and focus slowly fade from good to none
i just switched to controlled labs wf wb gm and am hoping for good results if not im switching to animal pump, you cant go wrong with there products

[BodyGem]

I use this new YOR MRP for the load of nutrients. but, the guys that that i know take this before a workout and AREN'T SORE after they work out! thats crazy.

check out all their products. i use them ALL
www.yor.com

use the username Jewels22 for purchases

[NC_Tarheel]

Vasocharge hands down!!

[JTFisher79]

I will be starting animal pump this week as a switch from black powder. I really didn't feel much from black powder

[Haywood j blome]

I like plain ol peanut butter

[Surive123]

I like plain ol peanut butter

stop fraudin

[Haywood j blome]

stop fraudin
?????Wut???

[Devin1990]

My Favourite is BSN No- Xplode! Best stuff ever!!!

[jj2006]

How's Nanovapor? The dosage require too many. 2-3scoops

[Surive123]

My Favourite is BSN No- Xplode! Best stuff ever!!!
no

How's Nanovapor? The dosage require too many. 2-3scoops
no

[SippinWhey]

No Xplode AVPT formula and Superpump250 Easy

[swollPH91]

I use this new YOR MRP for the load of nutrients. but, the guys that that i know take this before a workout and AREN'T SORE after they work out! thats crazy.

check out all their products. i use them ALL
www.yor.com

use the username Jewels22 for purchases

NO WAY!!! so that means that i should take that!!!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i think the blue raz is delicious although the pump and focus slowly fade from good to none
i just switched to controlled labs wf wb gm and am hoping for good results if not im switching to animal pump, you cant go wrong with there products

i think you will enjoy white flood and the whole controlled labs stack. keep us posted as feedback is very important to us :)

[Rambo1989]

Gaspari Superpump250 is the best product out there. I get extremely good pumps every time.

[frankeaglechase]

This product creates an excellent stimulant response for your body without the head rush feeling of other products. There is a great balance of pump inducers and energy simulators that produce a prolonged muscle response and not a temporary energy rush. I typically workout in the morning, and this is an excellent product to help break through morning sluggishness.

[Nic7233]

havent seen anyone say much aboue Ragnarok? I am thinking about getting some.

[Pbmiyagi91]

i think you will enjoy white flood and the whole controlled labs stack. keep us posted as feedback is very important to us :)

ill post how i like it in a few days im on a cut right now with animal cuts and im finishing that up in a few days when i finish that is when the real lifting will start

[Nic7233]

Given the choice which of the two would you choose?

Ragnarok

or

Animal Pump

[CONTROLLED LABS]

ill post how i like it in a few days im on a cut right now with animal cuts and im finishing that up in a few days when i finish that is when the real lifting will start

sounds great looking forward to that :)

[AtomAnt70]

I gotta go with Gakic.
Doesn't really give a pump but has helped me throughout my workout to make better gains than ever before.

[N01SYtZ]

FIRST

Just one?
Cause I have 3 I want to put down but if only one..............
I'd say superpump 250.
But I want to list metrx amped and NO shotgun too.

Super Pump 250, agreed.

[bigliftin16]

it would be good for you if you havent tried very many....

guarantee youd be amazed by NO Shotgun

actually i recently tried that,...it sucked

[joshwas335]

this stuff me has me pressing the roof out of the gym, swear by it

[BABYBULL92003]

Scivation vasocharge is the ****! Ive tried them all..I liked noxplode and Novapor...but VASOCHARGE is the best so far!

[ripped2shreds777]

superpump250. I had such and insane tricep + chest pumps the other day that I couldnt straiten my arm and my thumb and pointer finger were tingling and lost feeling after 7 reps weighted bar dips wth 90lbs hangin off me. My arms felt tlike they were going to explode and my measurments went from 17 1/2" before workout to 18 1/3" after!

[SPACECLOWN]

At the moment, my favorite is Ragnarok. It's got one of the best profile's around and gives the best pumps/energy imaginable.

Thanks! It's profile does kick ass LOL. It contains a full serving of creatine in it unlike many of it's competitors and taste freaking awesome now.

[ThePatriot]

so i ordered NO Shotgun bogo, and have had 2 workouts with it so far, cant give an opinion on it yet, but it tastes like pure garbage, more realistically chlorine water with acid in it. What can i mix it with to get rid of that horrible taste, any suggestions?

[D_e_A_n]

Has anybody used Anabolic Xtreme - Rampage?

If so, is it any good? I managed to get a 60 serving bottle cheap and I'm awaiting arrival (10 day delivery)! Thanks.

[SuperiorBeast]

nano vapor.

[jebbers]

this stuff me has me pressing the roof out of the gym, swear by it


nano vapor made me feel like i was gonna pass out after about 45 minutes of lifting, put the pump was absolutly crazy, and i was drinking plenty of water and eating right

[-Merfolk-]

Has anybody used Anabolic Xtreme - Rampage?

If so, is it any good? I managed to get a 60 serving bottle cheap and I'm awaiting arrival (10 day delivery)! Thanks.

curious as well

[Trem24]

How's Nimbus Nutrition Poseidon or Swell?

[hotchocolate4u]

Has anyone tried MVP? Is it good?

[RAY350]

nano vapor is a waste of money didn't get any pump or anything

[SippinWhey]

No Xplode CEM

Taste 9.5/10

Pumps 9/10

Focus 7.5/10

Strength 6.5/10


No Xplode AVPT

Taste 9/10

Pumps 9/10

Focus 9/ 10

Strength 9/10



Shock Therapy

Taste 7/10

Pumps 6.5/10

Focus 7.5/10

Strength 10/10


Fast Twitch

Taste 9/10

Pumps 6/10

Focus 8/10

Strength 8/10


Superpump250

Taste 9.5/10

Pumps 9.5/10

Focus 8/10

Strength 8/10


Animal Pump

Taste (none)

Pumps 5/10

Focus 6/10

Strength 4/10


Supercharge

Taste 10/10

Pumps 6/10

Focus 9/10

Strength 8/10


Vasocharge

Taste 6/10

Pumps 7/10

Focus 10/10

Strength 9/10


White Flood

Taste 6.5/10

Pumps 6/10

Focus 9.5/10

Strength 9/10


Nitrofire

Taste 8.5/10

Pumps 4/10

Focus 5/10

Strength 5/10


RPM

Taste (none)

Pumps 5/10

Focus 10/10

Strength 9/10


Nox Surge

Taste 7.5/10

Pumps 5/10

Focus 7/10

Strength 5/10


Xpand

Taste 5/10

Pumps 7/10

Focus 8/10

Strength 8.5/10


Fierce

Taste 7/10

Pumps 7/10

Focus 8/10

Strength 7/10


No Shotgun

Taste 5.5/10

Pumps 9/10

Focus 9/10

Strength 7/10


Nitrobolic Extreme

Taste 8/10

Pumps 9.5/10

Focus 7/10

Strength 8/10

[HanginwitheMan]

If you had to pick just ONE pre-workout product for energy and/or pump, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take pre-workout products, if you should take pre-workout products, or why some pre-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite pre-workout product and give your detailed reason.)
Superpump 250!

1) It gets me out of my seat and in to the weight room within 30 minutes.
1a) on the crapper in 40 minutes, but back to lifting in 45 minutes

2) it keeps me focused and alert well after my work out
2a) and back on the crapper well after my work out

3) I take it at 7:00PM and can still go to sleep around 12:00 AM (N.O.Xplode will keep me up till 5:00 AM or later)
3a) will wake up in dead of sleep and have to sit on the crapper

4) I feel more pumped up and look a lot larger in the mirror plus I feel like i have harder muscles
4a) you will get to see results in real time do to the many trips past the mirror on the way to the crapper, and you are so pumped that you may not be able to wipe your own ass....I've always been able to, but have come close too a super pump.

5) It truley cleans out your colan
5a) well into the next day

[infamous_vik]

with the amount of times it's sending you to the crapper, you'd sure hope it doesn't stop you from wiping your ass

[purongpinoy]

Superpump 250!

1) It gets me out of my seat and in to the weight room within 30 minutes.
1a) on the crapper in 40 minutes, but back to lifting in 45 minutes

2) it keeps me focused and alert well after my work out
2a) and back on the crapper well after my work out

3) I take it at 7:00PM and can still go to sleep around 12:00 AM (N.O.Xplode will keep me up till 5:00 AM or later)
3a) will wake up in dead of sleep and have to sit on the crapper

4) I feel more pumped up and look a lot larger in the mirror plus I feel like i have harder muscles
4a) you will get to see results in real time do to the many trips past the mirror on the way to the crapper, and you are so pumped that you may not be able to wipe your own ass....I've always been able to, but have come close too a super pump.

5) It truley cleans out your colan
5a) well into the next day


did you follow the direction to take SP250 at least 45 mins after a full meal? I've been using SuperPump250 for about a month already and I never had this crapping thing....all it gives me are awesome pumps, increased focus and unbelievable workout energy....it also gave me added vascularity after my workout that made my triceps looks like its gonna explode after a great superset....

[boboboy]

NO Xplode for me.

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[dimevivo]

I've been taking NO shotgun and its incredible. I Just started to go back to the gym after 2 year off. Been working out for almost 2 month straight and NO Shotgun keeps me motivated. I bought 2 more. Heads up Guys Buy One Get One Free here in Boby building store

[Richbo68]

Does anyone have an opinon on Animal Pump? This thread is dominated by White Flood users and sounds like that will be my next purchase after i start and finish my animal pump next week, depending on how it works of course.

[TomStopa]

Yea it seems like a lot of White Flood users... but also a lot of people tried No Shotgun and SuperPump 250.... I really want to know which one I should take!

I train in JuJitSu and I lift once in a while... I take No Explode before my training and i am starting to get used to it and basically it does not help me like it used to.

Any recommendations on a pre work out supplement that will help me with that?

No Shotgun? White Flood? SuperPump 250? Animal Pump?

Thanks guys!

[naturalguy]

Does anyone have an opinon on Animal Pump? This thread is dominated by White Flood users and sounds like that will be my next purchase after i start and finish my animal pump next week, depending on how it works of course.

Animal Pump? The feedback we get on it is amazing:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=902775

What makes Animal Pump stand out from the rest is that it has a full dose of creatine and you have the option of taking the stims or leaving them out (all contained in a single red pill). Animal Pump is the only product that has this.

[zaco123]

Primaforce Primal N20 or Scivation VasoCharce

[IronFigure]

Whiteflood is crucial! I use it with green mag and purple wrath!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Does anyone have an opinon on Animal Pump? This thread is dominated by White Flood users and sounds like that will be my next purchase after i start and finish my animal pump next week, depending on how it works of course.


Yea it seems like a lot of White Flood users... but also a lot of people tried No Shotgun and SuperPump 250.... I really want to know which one I should take!

I train in JuJitSu and I lift once in a while... I take No Explode before my training and i am starting to get used to it and basically it does not help me like it used to.

Any recommendations on a pre work out supplement that will help me with that?

No Shotgun? White Flood? SuperPump 250? Animal Pump?

Thanks guys!
for good reason, people buy it again and again because it delivers amazing results and 50 workouts per tub at full dose :)

Whiteflood is crucial! I use it with green mag and purple wrath!
awesome, thanks for the feedback. what flavors are you using?

[capogeannis]

VPX NO Shotgun tastes horrendous. I've tried to force myself to stomach it as I don't like to waste money by not finishing any supp's I've bought, but it truly makes me gag. Then you get those morning-after cocktail type belch flavoring of it while working out. It's ingredients are really promising and I really wish I could stomach it. But it's the most aweful thing I've tasted in a while.

I mean, seriously, it's GOT to taste bad to push me out of lurking and actually make a forum post. ;)

[Universal Rep]

Does anyone have an opinon on Animal Pump?

More feedback...

Reviews: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=925279&highlight=Animal+Pump
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=967294
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=902775

Feedback:
http://forum.animalpak.com/showthread.php?t=314

[getbig1987]

Im going to have to say NOS Blast. People consider it the "off brand" of NO xplode, but personally it gives me just the right amount of energy without the jittery feeling. And with almost half the price I feel its a great product.

[Chocobananas]

Im going to have to say NOS Blast. People consider it the "off brand" of NO xplode, but personally it gives me just the right amount of energy without the jittery feeling. And with almost half the price I feel its a great product.

is this the 1 by body fortress? Cause thats the one i have and it tastes like absolute piss an does nothing for me.

[getbig1987]

is this the 1 by body fortress? Cause thats the one i have and it tastes like absolute piss an does nothing for me.

No its the one by Precision Engineering(Vitamin World's Brand). The one made by Body Fortress is awful and sold by Walmart.

[getbig1987]

is this the 1 by body fortress? Cause thats the one i have and it tastes like absolute piss an does nothing for me.

Is it just the Body Fortress brand that did nothing for you? Have you ever tried NO xplode?

[SOUPNAZZI]

NO Explode is a not bad product. My experience :Great amount of energy, but it's all at once, energy blast does not last long. Plus the swell/pump affect dies off 10 mins after my workout.

and if anyone asks, yes my nutrition and rest is solid

I'm going with Animal Pump next

[McCannons]

I would have to say the Vitamin Shoppes brand. I forgot the name but it has good taste and always gets me through my workouts.
I have also tried no shotgun and liked that as well, just the taste is what gets me, i did hear they have a new formula out so i might go pick up a canister this weekend.
No Xplode just felt like if i was drinking fruit punch, did not really feel anything when i took it.

[LayinLo]

Animal Pump is good

[gqnemesis]

i like muscle tech's nano vapor ..its expensive .. but def. gives u the results .. best tasting no drink also.. u drink it about 10-15 mins before workout and u instantly feel the rush and pumps are great as well.

runner up : scivation-Vasocharge .. another great tasting sup, price is steady i think you can get around $25for 20servings(2scoops) ..and gives u good boost in the gym.

[zO~]

so far it has been the most intense NO supp.
by the end of the tub i became more tolerant to it.
started taking half scoop and went to one and a half at the end.
good product overall though.
currently taking 2 scoops of NOxplode, so far it seems as NOShotgun gave better pumps with only one scoop.

[dimevivo]

so far it has been the most intense NO supp.
by the end of the tub i became more tolerant to it.
started taking half scoop and went to one and a half at the end.
good product overall though.
currently taking 2 scoops of NOxplode, so far it seems as NOShotgun gave better pumps with only one scoop.
That's what I like about No Shootgun 1 Scoop Is enough. I did not Purchase no xplode cause you tend to use more scoops so your tub wasted faster

[240kat]

i like muscle tech's nano vapor ..its expensive .. but def. gives u the results .. best tasting no drink also.. u drink it about 10-15 mins before workout and u instantly feel the rush and pumps are great as well.

runner up : scivation-Vasocharge .. another great tasting sup, price is steady i think you can get around $25for 20servings(2scoops) ..and gives u good boost in the gym.

I think you're the only person that likes how NaNo tastes, bleh.

I've beenn using Fast Twitch by CytoSport annd i like it, but I want to move toward a caff-free pre work out supp. Thought about going to Animal, or making my own. Read some good recips for that.

[FatboysFatter]

If you had to pick just ONE pre-workout product for energy and/or pump, what would be the best one? http://top5choices.com/-pics-/me.jpg

Steel Dragon and/or SuperPump

[bosniapow3r]

fqfaf

[GBLynden]

I have tried the following and I like the third thing I have tried the best:

1) NO Explode - Made me feel ill, but the pump was good.
2) Shock Therapy - Tasted like crap, but gave me a big burst of energy. The pump was decent, but not great.
3) My own mix of aminos and other items - Makes me feel good in my belly and gives me a very good pump.

My own mix wins because I feel nothing but good and I get a great pump from it. My mix is a big more spendy than most, but I am probably going to stick with it until I find something better.

[MBSowards]

Cryoshock and Ragnarok are hands down the best products in this category.

[cobralex297]

MBSowards, It's good that you feel that way. Many other people also however say the same thing about different products that they have tried. I'm looking for a good pump supplement, but if you praise a product without specifics it won't really help me do so other than telling me which names I should look up in the store, which I will do.

It's just that if everybody praises things without support, they're all equal in the eyes of an observer, because it's all the same when you just say a name.

Just my rant after going through several pages here.

[Junkie2]

Animal Pump is amazing. Definitly my first choice


Coming in a far second is NO xplode. It is great for the first 3-4 workouts and then the pump just isnt there anymore.

[DLaub]

black powder reigns supreme

[Basil08]

black powder reigns supreme

That stuff kicks my ass, the only supplement i truly feel something from

[BonesMccarty]

NoShotgun rocks...I'm curious to see how White Flood compares

[rofiel]

Tied for first--Nano Vapor and Animal Pump
Second ---- Black Powder
Third ----N.O. Xplode

[gianthulkman]

CO2
http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-3049325-10409409

[BenchAddict]

Animal Pump for sure

[bigchrishxc]

i need to buy a pre-workout supplement just to try it out, but for right now i don't use.

[OG_800]

i guess i would have to say viagra mixed with any kinda cough syrup does the trick for me. i pop a couple of those in and down it with some thick strawberry and sit back for a couple hours. once i stand up i feel like i could do anything. i could **** sandpaper for four hours and not give a **** cause thats just the kinda dude i am.

Homie I know exactly what you mean, In my hood we got our very own version Of dat except we just change the syrup fo olde 40oz and the viagra fo PCP

Hella bomb yo!

[MBSowards]

MBSowards, It's good that you feel that way. Many other people also however say the same thing about different products that they have tried. I'm looking for a good pump supplement, but if you praise a product without specifics it won't really help me do so other than telling me which names I should look up in the store, which I will do.

It's just that if everybody praises things without support, they're all equal in the eyes of an observer, because it's all the same when you just say a name.

Just my rant after going through several pages here.

I have reviewed both in the proper section, I don't believe this section is for everyone to place up in depth reviews of the preworkouts they have tried.

However, at 16 I wouldn't recommend either product to you.

[erockafella]

I actually tried Ragnarok yesterday from a friend and it helped give me one of the best workouts ive had recently. I think I drank it too fast and during the beginning of my work out I felt sort of nausest, but after 15-30 mins into my workout I just felt fine and worked out hard.

I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on a preworkout pump or whatever for late night workouts. I have class until 8pm during the week and plan on working out from 830-10pm at the latest. I want a pump that wont keep me awake all night because I have to wake up in the morning around 630-7am. . Basically Im looking for a pump that doesnt have caffiene or has less caffiene and that gives a great pump. I was thinking about White Flood, Ived used it before during night workout and it was pretty good and did not keep me up for that long after my workout. Any other recommendations ?

[MBSowards]

I actually tried Ragnarok yesterday from a friend and it helped give me one of the best workouts ive had recently. I think I drank it too fast and during the beginning of my work out I felt sort of nausest, but after 15-30 mins into my workout I just felt fine and worked out hard.

I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on a preworkout pump or whatever for late night workouts. I have class until 8pm during the week and plan on working out from 830-10pm at the latest. I want a pump that wont keep me awake all night because I have to wake up in the morning around 630-7am. . Basically Im looking for a pump that doesnt have caffiene or has less caffiene and that gives a great pump. I was thinking about White Flood, Ived used it before during night workout and it was pretty good and did not keep me up for that long after my workout. Any other recommendations ?

Ragnarok comes in caffeine free. :)

[erockafella]

^ veeeeerrry inteerrressstings...

[PremiereFitness]

Universal Shock Therapy. Best Value.

[andron217]

So far I've tried (listed in order of preference) NO Xplode, Animal Pump, Shock Therapy, NO Shotgun,and RPM.

I keep hearing great things about White Flood, so I ordered some yesterday. Can't wait for it to get here!

[Ichiban_D]

Does anybody have any problems with White flood with regards to stomach pain and gas later on during the workout. I've been using it for the past three weeks, but the last 3-4 times i've used it i wind up having a lot gas towards the end of workout. My workout usually lasts up to 2 hours. I stack it with green Mag and take it about 45 minutes after i eat before hitting the gym.

[FatboysFatter]

Steel Dragon and/or SuperPumphttp://top5choices.com/-pics-/me.jpg

Oops, my bad ya'll... I meant to say:

Steel Dragon & Super CHARGE, not Super Pump.

STEEL DRAGON & SUPER CHARGE

[Grr287]

If you dont care about price, NaNo Vapor hands down. **** is rediculous.

[CyphaSoundz]

I like Universal Storm. Has all the basics and has a good price.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

NoShotgun rocks...I'm curious to see how White Flood compares

would love to see your comparison, white flood is one of a kind :)

[WorkoutMixes]

what the hell is this White Flood all about. I think I'm abotu to put an order in once I read up for a bit. I'm always looking for an edge. Currently, RTD Fast Twitch (with caffeine) is my favorite. I like the blue one. Both the blue and the red stain my lips, gums, teeth and tongue like nothing else. I just like the blue so much I look past it. I bring a toothbrush with me to gym when I know I'm going to be drinking one of these.

[Paul_2_Oh]

White Flood, without a doubt. The pump is great but I absolutely love the kick in the mouth I get within 15-20 minutes of taking. Such a rush. I only wish I could take it all the time, but my body down-regulates so fast I need to cycle often.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

So far I've tried (listed in order of preference) NO Xplode, Animal Pump, Shock Therapy, NO Shotgun,and RPM.

I keep hearing great things about White Flood, so I ordered some yesterday. Can't wait for it to get here!
awesome, cant wait to hear your feedback

Does anybody have any problems with White flood with regards to stomach pain and gas later on during the workout. I've been using it for the past three weeks, but the last 3-4 times i've used it i wind up having a lot gas towards the end of workout. My workout usually lasts up to 2 hours. I stack it with green Mag and take it about 45 minutes after i eat before hitting the gym.
try taking it with a rice cake or granola bar

what the hell is this White Flood all about. I think I'm abotu to put an order in once I read up for a bit. I'm always looking for an edge. Currently, RTD Fast Twitch (with caffeine) is my favorite. I like the blue one. Both the blue and the red stain my lips, gums, teeth and tongue like nothing else. I just like the blue so much I look past it. I bring a toothbrush with me to gym when I know I'm going to be drinking one of these.give it a try and you wont go back to anything else. it works very well and you get 50 workouts per tub, so its a great value as well :)


White Flood, without a doubt. The pump is great but I absolutely love the kick in the mouth I get within 15-20 minutes of taking. Such a rush. I only wish I could take it all the time, but my body down-regulates so fast I need to cycle often.
awesome, you should cycle off for 10 days after every 30 days of use

[rhapathy]

I'm seriously getting great results from Superpump. Works great for me!!

[DAVEZILLA]

animal pump is my fav, I stack with m-stack for enhanced effectiveness, gives me great focus, awesome pumps, that I swear seem to last for hours, also I never seem to get an after workout crash

[Doscellular]

I wasn't really getting the juice out of NOXplode after the 2 months I was taking it, so I started to sample MRI Blackpowder and Animal Pump.

Got GREAT results with Blackpowder, like it alot.

Just took the Animal Pump this morning, and whilst I almost didn't notice a difference in energy buzz terms, I had a great workout. Felt like my arms were going to explode.

With the 3 pre-workout supps, at the very least I have a good variety that I can cycle and not get tired of. I plan to use the Blackpowder in the AM and if I lift at night I will use the Animal Pump minus the red stim pill.

[Lean-Machine]

Does anybody have any problems with White flood with regards to stomach pain and gas later on during the workout. I've been using it for the past three weeks, but the last 3-4 times i've used it i wind up having a lot gas towards the end of workout. My workout usually lasts up to 2 hours. I stack it with green Mag and take it about 45 minutes after i eat before hitting the gym.

Sorry mate but couldnt get past the "My workout usually lasts up to 2 hours" part. I know it's UP TO 2 hours but have you considered the fact that you may be overtraining? There are pretty good articles on this site about overtraining if your interested - good read.

I've used Superpump 250 and love it! I've also tried Horse power but don't rate it as much. SP250 gives me the mental edge to focus on the weights im lifting and how I lift them! The pumps are incredible; I wish they lasted indefinately though

Is there any decent product out there that does not have the caffeine content? I struggle to fall asleep when I take the pre-work out drinks, and I do not consume them for at least 4 hours before I train, sometimes 5 hours !!

[B2BNutrition]

Hey guys.. I'm from Back 2 Basics Nutrition and I want to let you know that I find our product, The BasiX to be the best pre-workout supplement. I always get a sustained blast of energy and great focus throughout my entire workout without the crash. Awesome taste too. Didn't find other pre-workout/energy supplements to do the trick for me as The BasiX does.

[garrettlm]

I have only taken N.O. Xplode for 2 months and then Supercharge this past week. The N.O. Xplode AVPT has worked great for me. The supercharge is awful. I am just happy I didnt pay for it. Nothing like working out with the N.O. Xplode. I had very little increased energy but my heartrate was greatly increased. Im guessing due to all the caffeine. But I gave the bottle back to my buddy and said no thanks. Trying to decide now if I should try the White Flood or Animal Pump.

[barrett32]

i really like animal pump. a bit pricey, but great long lasting pumps, focus and come in a convenient pill form.

[naturalguy]

Universal Shock Therapy. Best Value.

Shock Therapy is the best value period. Not many products can touch it @ 50 servings for $29 :eek:

[britonarius]

Armegeddon is the best i have tried - and EvolutionX10 in work post - from the same company is the best in that area as well. I found that Animal pump was a little too short lived - and Gaspari superpumped 250 had little effect.

[kl4nt]

Super pump worked very well, but I'm interested in trying white flood now. Is it only available online?

[PATS FAN1]

I use Noxplode and No shotgun,I am really happy with them both and switch it up by taking each for two weeks at a time.

[Warneckutz]

I tried stacking Animal Pump with my current pre-workout stack: White Flood & Green MAGnitude (sometimes throwing Purple Wraath in there if I didn't feel like having another bottle on the gym floor with me)...

Loved it.

[AMillane7]

Super pump worked very well, but I'm interested in trying white pump now. Is it only available online?

white flood perhaps? available online if thats what you meant

[kl4nt]

white flood perhaps? available online if thats what you meant

yes, my bad

Think I will have trouble falling asleep 3-4 hours after I take it? Caffeine generally doesn't affect me very much but if someone knows from experience that would be great.

[imdope]

ive always liked no-explode, but am strongly considering white flood after what ive been reading, sounds great.

[mr_i]

please help me decide.

NO shotgun
White Flood or
Black Powder

[rquinn88]

I have used NO explode and super pump 250, so far i like sp250 better. It seems like i get a better pump from sp250 and it last longer then no explode

[CONTROLLED LABS]

white flood perhaps? available online if thats what you meant
yup and in stores as well :)

please help me decide.

NO shotgun
White Flood or
Black Powder

white flood is the lowest price per serving of the ones listed, so why not start there?

[Chocobananas]

Is it just the Body Fortress brand that did nothing for you? Have you ever tried NO xplode?

I havent tried it yet but i might try it after Nano vapor. If its anything like the body fortress one let me know so i can get back on WF Nano or pump.

[Jsol]

Supercharged hands down the best

[bman2380]

So far I've only tried Superpump and NO Shotgun...and so far...mediocre pump from NO Shotgun but a 'super pump' from Superpump...

[BigSkiPU]

I'm looking into getting white flood for pre-workout and I noticed on your website that you say to stack with wit green mag before your workout also. Y is that? And what post-workout supplements would you recommend?

[Warneckutz]

I'm looking into getting white flood for pre-workout and I noticed on your website that you say to stack with wit green mag before your workout also. Y is that? And what post-workout supplements would you recommend?

I know you're waiting on a C.L. Rep, but I use their White Flood / Green MAGnitude / Purple Wraath Stack - very effective stack, btw.

Green MAG is their creatine product that can be used pre (and post if you want) workout. So, by stacking White Flood (their Nitric Oxide formula), you get a prett effective pre-workout drink mix.

-Ant

[240kat]

animal pump..there is nothing better.
CytoSport Fast Twitch
MT NaNo Vapor
NOxplode
Nitrix

all cant match animal pump.

[BigSkiPU]

Alright that makes sense then! Do you take the Green Mag before and after? And when do you take the Purple Wrath?

[Warneckutz]

Alright that makes sense then! Do you take the Green Mag before and after? And when do you take the Purple Wrath?

*I* take Green MAG both before AND after. I sip my Purple Wraath through my workout. I feel like I get a better workout while using the PW and I feel like I recover much faster after using it.

[garrettlm]

Supercharged hands down the best

I have tried this stuff twice and I havent got much out of it at all. An increased heart rate and that was about it.

[south_tex]

top three that ive used...
1st place Animal Pump
2nd Storm/ Surge(universal Nutrition
3rd Horse Power (taste not so great but it does the job)

Worst ones Ive used
Glycergrow(controlled Labs, used with GB and WB )
WTF pumped ( ****)


( these are just my opinions, im sure that some ppl respond to CL, and **** but not in my case)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm looking into getting white flood for pre-workout and I noticed on your website that you say to stack with wit green mag before your workout also. Y is that? And what post-workout supplements would you recommend?


I know you're waiting on a C.L. Rep, but I use their White Flood / Green MAGnitude / Purple Wraath Stack - very effective stack, btw.

Green MAG is their creatine product that can be used pre (and post if you want) workout. So, by stacking White Flood (their Nitric Oxide formula), you get a prett effective pre-workout drink mix.

-Ant
exactly. they are best stacked preworkout. purple wraath intraworkout then golden finish postworkout to round out the group. :)

[scorpo86]

what about stacking black powder with sp250

[MISTERDUDE]

For the Price: Caffeine Pills

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Alright that makes sense then! Do you take the Green Mag before and after? And when do you take the Purple Wrath?

green mag pre and purple wraath during the workout

[soundcheck129]

For the Price: Caffeine Pills

Definitely true. Right now I'm loving Ragnarok though.

[dbtitus85]

I worked at GNC over the past year and I have tried many different products, NO Explode did not do anything but epset me stomach. NANO Vapor is overall my favorite preworkout sup, heats me up and gets me going. It definately ups my strenth. Right now i am mixing arginine and a fat burner before my workouts and its nowhere near the pump and energy on NANO vapor.

[PowerHouse88]

By far the best is superpump 250

[LifeGuardHank]

New to the forum, been reading for a while...

Recently started using White Flood as a result of the feedback in this Thread and I would have to say that it surpasses anything that I have tried to date in the area of pre-workout supps. The initial energy surge within 30 min of taking along with the slight tingling is just enough to get me jumping out the door and continues through the first 40 minutes or so of the workout. Pumps are amazing, level throughout the workout. Focus is intense even as I'm winding down an hour or so after the workout, and my endurance is up a good bit as well. I am very satisfied with this product and still haven't built up a noticible tolerance to the effects after 3 weeks of use.

I have ordered Green MAG, which should be here tomorrow, and can't wait to start stacking the two. I plan to order PW in a few weeks after I cylce off for a week or two.

The value is awesome as well.

[LifeGuardHank]

yes, my bad

Think I will have trouble falling asleep 3-4 hours after I take it? Caffeine generally doesn't affect me very much but if someone knows from experience that would be great.

I am very sensitive to caffine and I take WF 30 min before my 6:00pm workout and still get to bed relatively easy between 10:30-11:30 every night... Granted I work outdoors or on a boat offshore from 8-5 everyday, so I might be in need of sleep reguardless...

[Methadrol]

NO xplode <= Purple wraath.

both does it for me

[CONTROLLED LABS]

New to the forum, been reading for a while...

Recently started using White Flood as a result of the feedback in this Thread and I would have to say that it surpasses anything that I have tried to date in the area of pre-workout supps. The initial energy surge within 30 min of taking along with the slight tingling is just enough to get me jumping out the door and continues through the first 40 minutes or so of the workout. Pumps are amazing, level throughout the workout. Focus is intense even as I'm winding down an hour or so after the workout, and my endurance is up a good bit as well. I am very satisfied with this product and still haven't built up a noticible tolerance to the effects after 3 weeks of use.

I have ordered Green MAG, which should be here tomorrow, and can't wait to start stacking the two. I plan to order PW in a few weeks after I cylce off for a week or two.

The value is awesome as well.
awesome, I think you will love the stack, good luck with it and keep us posted as feedback is very important to us :)

I am very sensitive to caffine and I take WF 30 min before my 6:00pm workout and still get to bed relatively easy between 10:30-11:30 every night... Granted I work outdoors or on a boat offshore from 8-5 everyday, so I might be in need of sleep reguardless...

yup, we dont rely on just sims like many other products. this is a comprehensive formula

[alask-ian]

I have used NO xplode and am currently using White Flood. The White Flood by far give me a greater pump and focus. With the NO its more so just energy and getting "psyched" for my workout. I may not be as cracked out with White Flood but my pumps and focus is much better. Plus 50 workouts per tub.....and a pretty good taste. With the NO I gained a tolerance and I had to up the amount of powder is was taking. So far I have been taking the White Flood for a few week and have not noticed any tolerance. I would rather take White Flood over NO Xplode any day....

[Warneckutz]

So far I have been taking the White Flood for a few week and have not noticed any tolerance. I would rather take White Flood over NO Xplode any day....

That's definitely a plus with White Flood for me as well. It was taking 4-5 scoops of NO-Xplode or NaNo Vapor to get it's effects. I'm still only using 1 scoop of White Flood and I've been using it for a year now.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have used NO xplode and am currently using White Flood. The White Flood by far give me a greater pump and focus. With the NO its more so just energy and getting "psyched" for my workout. I may not be as cracked out with White Flood but my pumps and focus is much better. Plus 50 workouts per tub.....and a pretty good taste. With the NO I gained a tolerance and I had to up the amount of powder is was taking. So far I have been taking the White Flood for a few week and have not noticed any tolerance. I would rather take White Flood over NO Xplode any day....


That's definitely a plus with White Flood for me as well. It was taking 4-5 scoops of NO-Xplode or NaNo Vapor to get it's effects. I'm still only using 1 scoop of White Flood and I've been using it for a year now.awesome to hear, white flood is more of a smooth energy, no huge crashes or jitters, its all part of the formula :)

[ccrowley]

super pump 250 buy far. other than the price, little expensive. it gave me the energy to blast through my workouts and get awsome pumps. but most of all it kept me rele rele focused on wat i was doing..by far one of the best pre/workout supps iv tried

[B2BNutrition]

Hey guys,

I am from Back 2 Basic Nutrition, and the sole reason I started this company is because I could not find a good pre-workout supplement. So I came out with my own, and it is amazing. It is called The Basix, and it's being sold on bodybuilding.com- check it out http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/b2basix/basix.html.

[SMR66]

I just finished up my first container of Nano Vapor and I was pretty happy with the results for the most part. It definately gave me energy and a good sweat. I didn't like the fact that I built up a quick tolerance even though I used it just 4 days per week. I also didn't like how it made me crash 20 mins after my workout. I just ordered my first shipment of White Flood due to the high recommendation of everyone on here. I liked that it does not contain creatine like most other preworkout formulas so I can still use it when I cycle of creatine.

[saken]

Black powder by Far.

[mstockwe87]

For the Price: Caffeine Pills

caffeine pills+Bulk Citrulline=righteous, cheap pre-workout

[Cr4zYH3aD]

Ragnarok

[naturalguy]

top three that ive used...
1st place Animal Pump
2nd Storm/ Surge(universal Nutrition
3rd Horse Power (taste not so great but it does the job)

Worst ones Ive used
Glycergrow(controlled Labs, used with GB and WB )
WTF pumped ( ****)


( these are just my opinions, im sure that some ppl respond to CL, and **** but not in my case)

Glad you like Animal Pump. It certainly stands out from the rest with a full dose of creatine (no need to buy a separate creatine) and you have the option of taking the stims or leaving them out (all contained in a single red pill).

The feedback we continue to get on it is amazing:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=902775

[TeesMasterFlex]

I was always big on NO-Xplode. But I just started using NaNo Vapor by MuscleTech and its amazing. It tastes pretty crappy, but it makes you a monster in the gym. I literally have to make myself leave.

[MattP343]

I was always big on NO-Xplode. But I just started using NaNo Vapor by MuscleTech and its amazing. It tastes pretty crappy, but it makes you a monster in the gym. I literally have to make myself leave.
I was also big on NOXplode before I tried other stuff...SP250 made NOXplode its bitch the first tub I used. And its been all downhill from there (3 tubs in all)

Now Im trying out a little stack of Animal pump/Torrent and we'll see how that works out when it gets here but so far--SP250>*

[veetz22]

Has anyone tried Arnge Krush by Biorythm? I've heard great things about it and seen some good reviews online. Apparently it blows no xplode and superpump out of the water. I'd be very interested to hear if anyone was tried it or heard anything about it.

http://www.biorhythm-ads.com/html/arnge-krush.shtml

[Crizzle]

ergolean amp... the original or v2.

I have tried countless stimulant/preworkout supps, and this is the one i keep coming back to. It provides a type of energy and focus that is not felt with any other supp.

[oxs22]

In my opinion, AAKG Powder and Caffeine is just as effective for me as NO-XPlode and is seriously less expensive.

[neonbengal]

gaspari nutrition's super pump

[ingdirect127]

Just a quick question. I've been working out for about 6 months now and have taken animal pump for about a month and a half. Would it be ok to continue taking the same pre-workout supplement for a while or should i switch it up?

[shorty2584]

what you guys think is best prework out for lifting?????

[Warneckutz]

what you guys think is best prework out for lifting?????

I haven't tried SuperPump yet but I had success with No-Xplode at first but grew tolerant to the formula, requiring 4-5 scoops to get the same effect as 1 or 2 used to provide.

[MattP343]

what you guys think is best prework out for lifting?????
Just about everyone Ive personally talked to said SP250 is the best...Ive had a few other friends have success with NANO Vapor and Shotgun


As I mentioned previously, Im personally a big fan of Superpump250 but have decided to check out a small universal stack with Animal Pump & Torrent. I will let you know how it compares

[furyhockey]

I just got my White Flood and Purple Wraath in the mail yesterday, too early to tell if I like it or not but I'm excited to use it. I have one question though... If I take the Animal pak after breakfast and I am a morning lifter and if I were to try the Animal Pump when i'm done with my WF and PW is it even safe to take that many pills at once or would I just have to space out my lifting time with my breakfast..? any help would be great!

[abacot]

I think I have tried just about all of these Pre Workout powders. Here are my reviews. And a little about me so you dont think I am new to working out...Im 6ft tall, 225lbs, bench 350lbs max (for now), shoulder press 225lbs, incline press 225lbs for reps for reps, T-bar rows 225lbs for reps.

NO Explode - worked for me for the first week and then nothing after that. Then I moved to SuperDump 250...

SuperDump 250 - no lie this stuff gave me a hemorrhoid. I have never had one before but while taking SuperDump 250 I was taking at least 10 craps a day and the doctor agrees that wiping so much irrated me enough to give me a hemorrhoid. So a shot in the ass later, cutting the hemorrhoid open and removing the clot, and having to miss working out for 2 weeks...that stuff just wasnt worth it. Not to mention I was out hunders of $$ in doctor visits.

SuperNova - Supposedly this stuff is just like NO Explode but with more caffeine. It didnt really work for me.

Cellucor M5 - this stuff actually wasnt too bad. If you can stand paying the hefty price tag then try it. Im not a supporter of GNC but this was the only place I could find that had it. I took it for 2 weeks and the energy, pumps, and strength were great. So far this was the best product I have taken. I bought the powder just because I think it works better than pills. The taste was okay going down but the aftertaste to me was awful. Great product though.

Black Powder - I chose this one over the M5 simply because I like the taste better, its cheaper, and you can find it other places than GNC. Otherwise both Black Powder and M5 work to best for me. I dont feel like i am "getting used to" or becoming "immune" to the products...they keep on working after week 2, week 3 and so on. Energy, Strength, Recovery, Pumps are awesome. And best of all no craps!

[pepej90]

I think I have tried just about all of these Pre Workout powders. Here are my reviews. And a little about me so you dont think I am new to working out...Im 6ft tall, 225lbs, bench 350lbs max (for now), shoulder press 225lbs, incline press 225lbs for reps for reps, T-bar rows 225lbs for reps.

NO Explode - worked for me for the first week and then nothing after that. Then I moved to SuperDump 250...

SuperDump 250 - no lie this stuff gave me a hemorrhoid. I have never had one before but while taking SuperDump 250 I was taking at least 10 craps a day and the doctor agrees that wiping so much irrated me enough to give me a hemorrhoid. So a shot in the ass later, cutting the hemorrhoid open and removing the clot, and having to miss working out for 2 weeks...that stuff just wasnt worth it. Not to mention I was out hunders of $$ in doctor visits.

SuperNova - Supposedly this stuff is just like NO Explode but with more caffeine. It didnt really work for me.

Cellucor M5 - this stuff actually wasnt too bad. If you can stand paying the hefty price tag then try it. Im not a supporter of GNC but this was the only place I could find that had it. I took it for 2 weeks and the energy, pumps, and strength were great. So far this was the best product I have taken. I bought the powder just because I think it works better than pills. The taste was okay going down but the aftertaste to me was awful. Great product though.

Black Powder - I chose this one over the M5 simply because I like the taste better, its cheaper, and you can find it other places than GNC. Otherwise both Black Powder and M5 work to best for me. I dont feel like i am "getting used to" or becoming "immune" to the products...they keep on working after week 2, week 3 and so on. Energy, Strength, Recovery, Pumps are awesome. And best of all no craps!

definitely agree BLACK POWDER for the win here...!!

[naturalguy]

I just got my White Flood and Purple Wraath in the mail yesterday, too early to tell if I like it or not but I'm excited to use it. I have one question though... If I take the Animal pak after breakfast and I am a morning lifter and if I were to try the Animal Pump when i'm done with my WF and PW is it even safe to take that many pills at once or would I just have to space out my lifting time with my breakfast..? any help would be great!

It's safe to take Animal Pak and Animal Pump. I would take the Animal Pak with your breakfast, wait a little while if you can (30-45 mins.) and then take your Animal Pump and then train 30-45 minutes after that. Good luck, you will love Animal Pump.

[goodinsidevoice]

i love cycling animal pump with Universal's storm+shock therapy combo. These products by universal/animal not only give me a smooth caffeine release during a workout, but I find that it finishes off the caffeine release in a smooth way too. This results in zero crash after the caffeine rush disappears.

1 month supply for $30 with animal pump and 2 month supply of ST+Storm for about $50. Cheapest, most effective NO+Creatine combos on the supp market to date IMHO.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I just got my White Flood and Purple Wraath in the mail yesterday, too early to tell if I like it or not but I'm excited to use it. I have one question though... If I take the Animal pak after breakfast and I am a morning lifter and if I were to try the Animal Pump when i'm done with my WF and PW is it even safe to take that many pills at once or would I just have to space out my lifting time with my breakfast..? any help would be great!

awesome, looking forward to your feedback on purple wraath and white flood.

[bizzmeister]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e337/bizzmeister/7676-2.jpg

Is that the superpump 250 everyone is talking about ?


Is it in powder form?

[RandallH19891]

I was all jazzed because I bought some Animal Pump yesterday. I thought it would be great because I really trust Animal's products. Anyways, I took it about 30-45 minutes before lifting without food, and I didn't feel anything. :(

Now, i'm not going to say that I won't keep trying or give up on Animal or anything, because I think they're an awesome company, but wtf?! No energy, no skin tearing pumps.. Nothing.

I am currently using N.O. Plasmacore, which everybody here says is junk. They're right, it isn't that great, but it gives me at least a little pump and energy. What's up with this, Animal?!

[firmanator]

probably black powder
im not really into taking preworkout powders or whatever but that stuff worked the best. tasted like absolute SH%T though!! like bubble yum and fake sugar or something...gross haha
never tried white flood....sounds, intriguing
and NO explode did absolutely NOTHING for me. worthless trash. i hate bsn, their stuff just doesnt work for me

[abacot]

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e337/bizzmeister/7676-2.jpg

Is that the superpump 250 everyone is talking about ?


Is it in powder form?

Yes...STAY AWAY!

[Behemoth1]

I was all jazzed because I bought some Animal Pump yesterday. I thought it would be great because I really trust Animal's products. Anyways, I took it about 30-45 minutes before lifting without food, and I didn't feel anything. :(

Now, i'm not going to say that I won't keep trying or give up on Animal or anything, because I think they're an awesome company, but wtf?! No energy, no skin tearing pumps.. Nothing.

I am currently using N.O. Plasmacore, which everybody here says is junk. They're right, it isn't that great, but it gives me at least a little pump and energy. What's up with this, Animal?!

it's extremely ironic that you made that review, cause out of all the preworkout supps i've tried No-Xplode, NanoVapor, RPM, EST No-Xtreme, and pump I would have to say Animal Pump provided the most intense pump out of them all. along with that i'll go ahead and say Scivation's Vasocharge was VERY good as well

[bizzmeister]

Yes...STAY AWAY!

Stay away....? lol? I picked it up yesterday. Too late lol.



For every 200 people that say this is the best stuff out there, there are always 3 people on the other side of the fence lol.

[MattP343]

Stay away....? lol? I picked it up yesterday. Too late lol.



For every 200 people that say this is the best stuff out there, there are always 3 people on the other side of the fence lol.
Yeah everyone is different, but when I was on it I had explosive pumps, super human strength, and workouts that seemed to continue for days! So all in all, I LOVED the stuff.

[RandallH19891]

it's extremely ironic that you made that review, cause out of all the preworkout supps i've tried No-Xplode, NanoVapor, RPM, EST No-Xtreme, and pump I would have to say Animal Pump provided the most intense pump out of them all. along with that i'll go ahead and say Scivation's Vasocharge was VERY good as well

I read around here that it may take up to a week to start feeling the full effects of Animal Pump, so maybe I just need to be consistent. Either way, i'm going to use it again today before my workout and hopefully it will work this time.

Update: Just did biceps today, and I used Animal Pump again. I gotta admit, I also drank 1 scoop (1/3 of a serving) of that MAP N.O. Plasmacore crap that I have. I got a GREAT pump and my energy was sustained, which is unusual for me when I work out first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I'm going to go ahead and attribute it to the Animal Pump even though I tainted my study by using the N.O. Plasmacore. =P

[ccrowley]

iv tried No-xplode/ super pump 250/ and NOS Blast...i thought xplode and super pump 250 worked awsome for energy, i rele like them , but then i found this Nos Blast at vitamin world for like 39 bucks..i never heard of it but thot to give it a try..it works amazing..u get pumpes like uv never had..even doin back and chest gets a big pump on ur arms...deffinlty go with Nos Blast

[.c.c.c.c]

ok lets c

Black powder 9.5 for me i this is the **** i dont think it can get any better :)
shock therapy 8.5 crazy good value gives it a bonus
no shotgun 8.5 this is mixed with gatorage though cuz it tastes like poo so im sure the extra carbs helped it a little
no xplode 8 this used to be a 10 for me but i had like 12 tubs of it so im compleetly immune now... :(
nano vapor 8 taste is not great
horse power 7 not great
my own combination(akg, creatine ethl ester, tourine, bcaas, and lots of caffiene) 7 lol this was kinda cool and proble pretty cheap idk i was just messing around


i got animal pump on the way it should be pretty cool. i wana try cl white flood but i think it wont do anything becuase i went threw 3 bottles of white blood without anything from it. after animal pump ill either stick with that or go back to black powder or maby try the new no shotgun ive heard good things

[tmaxx123]

black powder is what im using and its great.
but im going back to NaNo Vapor because i like how it has a "cut and defenition" ingreadient to it.
it noticed it kinda made me look more ripped, even like a few days after the gym?
hard to explain but ive used alot of supps and this is the only one that has this ingredient to my knowledge.

[MattP343]

Used Animal Pump for the first time today and have to say its not quite as over-whelming of a pump as SuperPump250. It seems to be more of a slow and steady timed release rather than the 'all out no holds barred tear' that sp250 is notorious for, however A/P seemed to sustain the peak longer as I was at the gym 30minutes longer than usual without being overly exhausted.

Ive heard that it takes up to 7 days to feel the full effects of Animal Pump- So i will report back soon.

[mjhtan]

Tried SP250, NoXplode and White Flood.

White flood hands down took the medal for me. I know everyone reacts different to supplements, but I had the most energy and pump from the WF.

[Chocobananas]

I read around here that it may take up to a week to start feeling the full effects of Animal Pump, so maybe I just need to be consistent. Either way, i'm going to use it again today before my workout and hopefully it will work this time.

Update: Just did biceps today, and I used Animal Pump again. I gotta admit, I also drank 1 scoop (1/3 of a serving) of that MAP N.O. Plasmacore crap that I have. I got a GREAT pump and my energy was sustained, which is unusual for me when I work out first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I'm going to go ahead and attribute it to the Animal Pump even though I tainted my study by using the N.O. Plasmacore. =P

Hmmm im kinda confused now. arent muscletech and Map products made from same company? so isnt nano vapor essentialy the same as plasmacore? Might not be but if it is then i would probably attribute the pump and energy to nano vapor cause that stuff is crazy strong. Pump does take about 8 or so workouts to kick in but when it does... insane pumps. Pumps to a point where it actually gets in the way of my workout. Lasts about 6 or so hours after my workout. Good stuff just too strong for me and theres no way to dial down dosage.

[Warneckutz]

Hmmm im kinda confused now. arent muscletech and Map products made from same company? so isnt nano vapor essentialy the same as plasmacore? Might not be but if it is then i would probably attribute the pump and energy to nano vapor cause that stuff is crazy strong. Pump does take about 8 or so workouts to kick in but when it does... insane pumps. Pumps to a point where it actually gets in the way of my workout. Lasts about 6 or so hours after my workout. Good stuff just too strong for me and theres no way to dial down dosage.

I haven't compared any of the products (but *I think* both protein powders have creatine monohydrate). I remember when the Muscle Asylum ads started rolling out and all I could think was "This company is ripping off MuscleTech's advertising style... wait, it IS MuscleTech."

I'm not sure if PlasmaCore is the same as Vapor but hopefully it doesn't allow the body to grow a tolerance to it so quickly.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Tried SP250, NoXplode and White Flood.

White flood hands down took the medal for me. I know everyone reacts different to supplements, but I had the most energy and pump from the WF.

yeah, people love white flood and its a great value at 50 workouts per tub at a full dose.

[mosizzle]

is there anyway i can get a sample of white flood?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

is there anyway i can get a sample of white flood?

sorry, we dont have white flood samples, but we do sell a half size tub so you can try it out a bit cheaper before committing to a whole tub

[RonShipman]

is there anyway i can get a sample of white flood?

Just order the full size tub it comes out to alot cheaper.

[LifeGuardHank]

Just started the WF, GM stack today after about a ten day off cycle. Exited at the first workout getting the rust off from the long holiday weekend of traveling. Question for Controlled labs... I know directions for GM are to take pre or post workout... Which would you recommend? Is there any downside to consuming durring the workout? I feel like I am drinking far too much fluid with both pre-workout...

PS. Like the green apple flavor...

[hollertronix]

I'm sorry but I don't have the focus to go through 9 pages and read 100's of different opinions on what the best energy supplement is.

Could someone be so kind as to tell me if there is a unanimous decision as to the best/safest/healthiest energy supplement?

Up until about a week ago, I would take 25E/200C (ephedrine/caffeine) and drink a cup of coffee before my workout. This would give me tons of energy for my workout, but this past week the energy hasn't been there and I guess my body has grown acustomed to this.

What do you guys suggest?

Thanks!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just order the full size tub it comes out to alot cheaper.
true, but its cheaper overall to get the small one if hes not sure if he likes it for the first time.

Just started the WF, GM stack today after about a ten day off cycle. Exited at the first workout getting the rust off from the long holiday weekend of traveling. Question for Controlled labs... I know directions for GM are to take pre or post workout... Which would you recommend? Is there any downside to consuming durring the workout? I feel like I am drinking far too much fluid with both pre-workout...

PS. Like the green apple flavor...

pre is best (you can mix the white flood and green magnitude in the same shake) and good luck with the stack. keep us posted :)

[sjm017]

I would have to go with Black Powder by MRI. I have been a powerlifter for over 4 years and this product keeps me motivated day to day to go lift heavy

[RippedFamMan]

I just ordered my Animal Pump, so if I understand this, when I take that, I won't have to take Creatine seperately, right? I had been taking 5 g of creatine 4x per week on my workout days.