Best Overall Pre-Workout Energy/Pump Supplement?

[IronMan9201]

used two scoops each time

[Mr_Kinney]

I use SuperPump250. It's pretty powerfull stuff for a guy my size but it does the trick and then some.

The GI issues were only a problem for about a week and then my system was able to handle it no problem.

[lens_d]

I agree SP 250 kicks ass. Awesome pumps my reps were up on the first dose. My veins get thick as pencils as well. Great product!

I have also use NANO vapor and had some good results from it as well. I like SP 250 better though after using it its hard to go without.

Might have to try and get sample of controlled labs to compare. As for now I know where I am spending my money.

[DBaumgard]

Super Pump is good but White Flood and green mag are awesome.

[Arnold11]

I agree SP 250 kicks ass. Awesome pumps my reps were up on the first dose. My veins get thick as pencils as well. Great product!

I have also use NANO vapor and had some good results from it as well. I like SP 250 better though after using it its hard to go without.

Might have to try and get sample of controlled labs to compare. As for now I know where I am spending my money.

lens what do you think about no xplode cause im about to buy their stack nitrix+cellmass+no xplode+free creapure...I was thinking maybe to start with BSN no xplode if it isnt stronger than SP250 cause I dont wanna jump into the deep end yet, let me know thanks! plus ill be leaving the nitrix for use in the future

[SkellorX]

sp250 ftw.
No xplode is good but.....
i i get more out of 2 scoops of sp250 than i got out of 4 scoops of no xplode.

[gridironwarrior]

Fruit Punch Shock Therapy with Watermelon EAA Stack and some Grape Storm is the absolute best for pre workout.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

used two scoops each time
full dose, ok cool



Might have to try and get sample of controlled labs to compare. As for now I know where I am spending my money.
no reason not to, they are free samples

Super Pump is good but White Flood and green mag are awesome.

glad to hear you like green magnitude and white flood, they are a very popular stack :)

[naturalguy]

Fruit Punch Shock Therapy with Watermelon EAA Stack and some Grape Storm is the absolute best for pre workout.

For the price/results you can't beat Shock Therapy @ 50 servings for $31.89 :eek:

We are coming out with a new flavor soon

[Kmart23]

for me, the jury is still out as to whether shock therapy is all that.

I used a tub and it is great to get my bowels moving, but as for the pumps, well I didn't feel overly impressed.

I actually tried a sample of sp250 half way through my tub of st, and found it to be better, but it is more expensive, so you would hope so.

Waiting on my tub of sp250 to arrive any day now. . . woohoo!

[lens_d]

Never tried NO Explode as of yet. I want to and will some time I’m sure. Think i am addicted to nitric oxide lol. From what I read people seem to like SP 250 better. For me it works awesome.

You can’t go wrong with a BSN stack though. You get a lot of good products and save a few bucks so it makes sense. Eat right and train your ass off your sure to gain!

[gridironwarrior]

For the price/results you can't beat Shock Therapy @ 50 servings for $31.89 :eek:

We are coming out with a new flavor soon

So I hear.. yay!!

[J.O.B.]

double scoopn sp250? or no xplode wtf y? get a real pre workout n thats not needed, and ur body gets immune 2 caffine so chil 4 a wk if ur not feelin it off a scoop anyways those both suck so does shotgun n vapor try black powder, xlevol, white flood seems cool n that new mma muscle rage or whatever ingredients look cool

the best pre work out would b
3g of high quality arginine, wit sum ornithine
good amount of caffine, not so much 2 make u feel crackd out
a lot of b vitamins, so thers no crash
sum alpha lipioic acid n sum gaba
lil bit of waxy maize carbs 4 glycogen, more natural energy
sum high quality quick absorbing creatine
sum beta alanine n taurine
not hard on ur stomach and good tasting
while stil bein affordable and having a lot of servings

u find that product n itl crap on anything else out

[CONTROLLED LABS]

double scoopn sp250? or no xplode wtf y? get a real pre workout n thats not needed, and ur body gets immune 2 caffine so chil 4 a wk if ur not feelin it off a scoop anyways those both suck so does shotgun n vapor try black powder, xlevol, white flood seems cool n that new mma muscle rage or whatever ingredients look cool

the best pre work out would b
3g of high quality arginine, wit sum ornithine
good amount of caffine, not so much 2 make u feel crackd out
a lot of b vitamins, so thers no crash
sum alpha lipioic acid n sum gaba
lil bit of waxy maize carbs 4 glycogen, more natural energy
sum high quality quick absorbing creatine
sum beta alanine n taurine
not hard on ur stomach and good tasting
while stil bein affordable and having a lot of servings

u find that product n itl crap on anything else out
sweet post :D

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[peedeefuller]

I have been using No-Explode for the last 10 weeks and my body stills responds very well to it as long as I keep the water level down and don't shake it to mix it. The pump is great and the energy is good for around 1 to 1 1/2 hours.

Great

[FrankiB]

Due to customs restrictions, samples are only available for mailing to those in the United States.

no canada free sample ;(

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Due to customs restrictions, samples are only available for mailing to those in the United States.

no canada free sample ;(

we send our samples to canada ;) (see my sig for details)

[sctrey99]

I just finished useing No-Explode. The two negative things about it were...

1) About one to three hours after the workout I felt like crap. (not a huge issue for me, i could deal with it)

2) It irritated my skin. Only where I shave. My face/neck. (this is why i stopped useing it)


I can deal with the crash after my workout. But do to reason number 2, Im going to try another pre-out supplement. Im going to try Super Pump 250 next. I like the fact they mail a free sample, which I requested. Hopefully Vitamin Shop or GNC carries it so I can get a bottle.


I dont want to leave no-Explode on a negative note. no-explode did what it said. It did help me focus, lift heavier and more, and I liked the pump... I dont like working out without it. I hope I can find another one that wont have the listed side affects.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I just finished useing No-Explode. The two negative things about it were...

1) About one to three hours after the workout I felt like crap. (not a huge issue for me, i could deal with it)

2) It irritated my skin. Only where I shave. My face/neck. (this is why i stopped useing it)


I can deal with the crash after my workout. But do to reason number 2, Im going to try another pre-out supplement. Im going to try Super Pump 250 next. I like the fact they mail a free sample, which I requested. Hopefully Vitamin Shop or GNC carries it so I can get a bottle.


I dont want to leave no-Explode on a negative note. no-explode did what it said. It did help me focus, lift heavier and more, and I liked the pump... I dont like working out without it. I hope I can find another one that wont have the listed side affects.

get a free white flood sample to try out as well. check my signature below for the link

[fischetti]

oh god shock therapy is good ****,likeone scoop gives me massive energy focus etc for like 3 to 4 hours plus you get 50 serves per tub

[anthonybolerjack]

Don't waste your money on NO products/Pre workout. Nutrabio.com <-- thier AAKG and Citrulline Malate is so cheap ($25/$34 but its for 166/148 servings...) and thats all you need. The rest of the No prducts got so much fluff and your buying the name. In those products, are these two amino acids that do the job. Best workouts ever and I have tried tons of NO. products, I feel just as strong at the end of my workout as when I started.

[graphyxx]

definitely has reflected on your gains ^

[V08]

has anyone taken dynamatize xpand? any good compared to others? also can anyone tell me if dynamtize 12hour protein is a good one to take for someone who's looking to lose some weight but put on muscle? thanks for any help!!!

[gridironwarrior]

has anyone taken dynamatize xpand? any good compared to others? also can anyone tell me if dynamtize 12hour protein is a good one to take for someone who's looking to lose some weight but put on muscle? thanks for any help!!!

Never tried Xpand... however, some other mentionables...

Shock Therapy
White Flood
Animal Pump

are all very good and a great bang for your buck (especially Shock Therapy).

For the whey protein, look for a protein w/ whey isolates for weight loss, but don't neglect casein and other forms of protein as well. Eat clean, intense, but short workouts, and cardio!!!

[IronMan9201]

double scoopn sp250? or no xplode wtf y? get a real pre workout n thats not needed, and ur body gets immune 2 caffine so chil 4 a wk if ur not feelin it off a scoop anyways those both suck so does shotgun n vapor try black powder, xlevol, white flood seems cool n that new mma muscle rage or whatever ingredients look cool

the best pre work out would b
3g of high quality arginine, wit sum ornithine
good amount of caffine, not so much 2 make u feel crackd out
a lot of b vitamins, so thers no crash
sum alpha lipioic acid n sum gaba
lil bit of waxy maize carbs 4 glycogen, more natural energy
sum high quality quick absorbing creatine
sum beta alanine n taurine
not hard on ur stomach and good tasting
while stil bein affordable and having a lot of servings

u find that product n itl crap on anything else out

ha this made me laugh a little. no offence but i mean a good amount of caffeine but not too much, arginne w/ some ornithine, some "high quality quick absorbing creatine" a "lil bit" of waxy maize. its just funny you listed pretty much all the common good things that are in almost all good pre workout drinks. also things like a good amount of caffeine but not too much is subjective for each person, not to mention the disagreement on which creatine is absorbed fastest and best, and on the amount of carbs that you might put in. ha and the last lines crack me up :) "not hard on ur stomach and good tasting while still bein affordable and having a lot of servings".... well hopefully u kinda get why its funny. ha i just wanted to comment on that. i'm not knocking the poster because he's right. if you did find a perfect product with perfect proportions of perfect ingredients that tasted good and was cheap but still had alot of servings i'm pretty sure it would crap on anything else too. just try not to be so obvious :) peace

[tj_whit]

Ha, that 14 year old told you ^_^

[J.O.B.]

true a perfect product wont come n if u think those ingredients r n the top products ur wrong n needa do sum homework on ur sups, n moderate caffine is needed not 2 get u wired but enough 4 a jump start, im glad u thought it was funny what i think is funny that outa 11 pages ppl r stil postn the most crappiest products i jst put it as an example cuz 99.9% of ppl who go in2 places like gnc or whatever wil buy anything u say is good so jst layn knowledge dwn

ps my combination wit carbs is enough 2 fuel ur glycogen levels n cause ur nutrients like ARGININE n2 ur muscles faster, u should take a nutrition class

[BhOw4108]

Try AEN Pre-Surge...Just got it and tried it out yesterday. One of the best pre-workout products I have ever tried. Good energy and great muscle fullness, and it apparently gets stronger the more you use it.

[Bradddddddddddd]

I have tried a lot of preworkout supplements but honestly the best one ive used, that I actually picked up my second time is white flood. It gives you the perfect feeling of not to much not to little. Unlike NO products I didnt feel sick of the caffine etc.

White Flood and Green Mag FTW

[sensitive]

usp labs jacked. possibly?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have tried a lot of preworkout supplements but honestly the best one ive used, that I actually picked up my second time is white flood. It gives you the perfect feeling of not to much not to little. Unlike NO products I didnt feel sick of the caffine etc.

White Flood and Green Mag FTW

awesome stack right there and we have free samples for all who wish to try it out. see my signature below for details.

did you go for the large or the small tub? have you hear about white flood tablets? same formula but in tablet for convenience :)

[J.O.B.]

usp labs jacked. possibly?

nevr seen the label or heard of it could u put the sup ingredients n facts dwn?

[RippedKing]

Geranium, Schizandrol A, Methylxanthines, Beta-Alanine, Creatine Monohydrate, L-arginine alpha-Ketoglurate... just ordered three bottles, will post soon on quality of it but form the rest of thier products I expect nothing less than amazing

[RippedKing]

Here you go

[jjdgg]

Vitargo S2 from Genr8! Having proper supplements is key for me molecular carbohydrate is what I am a firm believer of, Vitargo S2 gets the job done, no sugar, no fats, and I can pin point what actually helps me instead of a long list of various ingredients in other supplements.

[gorilla stance]

I use to use NO Xplode for so long until I switch jobs. Now with my new job, I get off at 6 and go pick up my daughter and normally at the gym around 8'ish. I will take NO and use the gym for about 45min and be home around 8 or 9 pm. When its time for me to go to bed ummm my god its impossible. I will not go to sleep cause that **** will still be in my system like I can go back to the gym and wreck **** some more. I couldn't take it anyone because I can't sleep so I decided to switch to White Flood.

White flood is great and that thing will keep me going without any fatigue like I use to get with NO. im in the gym pumping like crazy.

Dont get me wrong, NO Xplode is great and I will not hesitate to use it again. If I could, perhaps I will use NO on fridays because that **** will keep me pumped up all night since I work at the club during the weekends.

Anyway, I have been feeling great lately and I give all my thanks to god.

btw. today was legs day and I did pretty good on squat. 405lbs

anyway, u can take all the suppliments u want but god's power is the greatest so pray before you hit the gym.


peace and blessings.

[fischetti]

I use to use NO Xplode for so long until I switch jobs. Now with my new job, I get off at 6 and go pick up my daughter and normally at the gym around 8'ish. I will take NO and use the gym for about 45min and be home around 8 or 9 pm. When its time for me to go to bed ummm my god its impossible. I will not go to sleep cause that **** will still be in my system like I can go back to the gym and wreck **** some more. I couldn't take it anyone because I can't sleep so I decided to switch to White Flood.

White flood is great and that thing will keep me going without any fatigue like I use to get with NO. im in the gym pumping like crazy.

Dont get me wrong, NO Xplode is great and I will not hesitate to use it again. If I could, perhaps I will use NO on fridays because that **** will keep me pumped up all night since I work at the club during the weekends.

Anyway, I have been feeling great lately and I give all my thanks to god.

btw. today was legs day and I did pretty good on squat. 405lbs

anyway, u can take all the suppliments u want but god's power is the greatest so pray before you hit the gym.


peace and blessings. Interesting:)

[Valenzuelatech]

I've been using White flood and purple wrath for two days now and.. Holy ****! i literally have to pull my self away from the gym.

Its still early and I cant wait to see how these products affect my results in the long run

I'm Logging it
check it out :)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=254544501#post254544501

Lift in color, POST in color ;)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I use to use NO Xplode for so long until I switch jobs. Now with my new job, I get off at 6 and go pick up my daughter and normally at the gym around 8'ish. I will take NO and use the gym for about 45min and be home around 8 or 9 pm. When its time for me to go to bed ummm my god its impossible. I will not go to sleep cause that **** will still be in my system like I can go back to the gym and wreck **** some more. I couldn't take it anyone because I can't sleep so I decided to switch to White Flood.

White flood is great and that thing will keep me going without any fatigue like I use to get with NO. im in the gym pumping like crazy.

Dont get me wrong, NO Xplode is great and I will not hesitate to use it again. If I could, perhaps I will use NO on fridays because that **** will keep me pumped up all night since I work at the club during the weekends.

Anyway, I have been feeling great lately and I give all my thanks to god.

btw. today was legs day and I did pretty good on squat. 405lbs

anyway, u can take all the suppliments u want but god's power is the greatest so pray before you hit the gym.


peace and blessings.
awesome to hear. are you using the powder or tablets? are you taking creatine with it?

Interesting:)
give it a shot, you wont regret it ;)

I've been using White flood and purple wrath for two days now and.. Holy ****! i literally have to pull my self away from the gym.

Its still early and I cant wait to see how these products affect my results in the long run

I'm Logging it
check it out :)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=254544501#post254544501

Lift in color, POST in color ;)
awesome transformation and feedback. your log looks amazing as well. :)

[J.O.B.]

Vitargo S2 from Genr8! Having proper supplements is key for me molecular carbohydrate is what I am a firm believer of, Vitargo S2 gets the job done, no sugar, no fats, and I can pin point what actually helps me instead of a long list of various ingredients in other supplements.

definitely not a pre workout, jst carbs n glycomaize frm ON is betr

[fischetti]

awesome to hear. are you using the powder or tablets? are you taking creatine with it?

give it a shot, you wont regret it ;)

awesome transformation and feedback. your log looks amazing as well. :)

I might give the stack a go but instead of purple wrath i will use green mag with white flood,after i finish my storm shock stack:)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I might give the stack a go but instead of purple wrath i will use green mag with white flood,after i finish my storm shock stack:)

awesome, would love to hear what you think. make sure to cycle off of shock therapy and any other stimulants for at least 10 days before starting white flood.

[sctrey99]

I just finished useing No-Explode. The two negative things about it were...

1) About one to three hours after the workout I felt like crap. (not a huge issue for me, i could deal with it)

2) It irritated my skin. Only where I shave. My face/neck. (this is why i stopped useing it)


I can deal with the crash after my workout. But do to reason number 2, Im going to try another pre-out supplement. Im going to try Super Pump 250 next. I like the fact they mail a free sample, which I requested. Hopefully Vitamin Shop or GNC carries it so I can get a bottle.


I dont want to leave no-Explode on a negative note. no-explode did what it said. It did help me focus, lift heavier and more, and I liked the pump... I dont like working out without it. I hope I can find another one that wont have the listed side affects.


Ok, I finished no-no explode about a week ago. And on the past 2 workouts I have been useing superpump-250. So I am going to compare.

As far as Pumps, Focus, and Energy go... In my opinion, no-explode helped more. But since of course it made my face break out where I shave I am not going to take it again. Superpump doesnt do that to me for some reason and it still does what it says as far as helping pumps, focus, and energy.

I still want to try White Flood, but I am going to stop taking these energy drinks for awhile once I finish this bottle of Super Pump.

*off topic* I just started halodrol liquigels today. Im going to be keeping track by recording my weight and taking a pic once a week. Ill post my results in the proper section in 30 days when it runs out. After that, Im laying off all supps except for my dieting of course. (food and protein drinks only)

[Mankix]

awesome, would love to hear what you think. make sure to cycle off of shock therapy and any other stimulants for at least 10 days before starting white flood.

Why exactly should I cycle off of shock therapy before starting white flood? Was going to switch off to white flood almost immediately if I found it useful (sample ordered today). May take a week off because I'll likely be switching to a mini-cut routine/diet, but hell, any advice is well placed. :)

[pu12en12g]

Why exactly should I cycle off of shock therapy before starting white flood? Was going to switch off to white flood almost immediately

To give your CNS a break from stimulants !! :cool:

[gorilla stance]

I am using the powder. I'm out now and I had plan to order more today so since you just mension powder ummm which one would you recommend? The powder one works quick for me because I drink it from my daughter's babysitter house and as soon as I get to the gym my ass is ready to go.


oh ya I use green mag with it.

so here is my stack

animal pak in the morning
whey shake in the morning
white flood 15-30min before workout
and green mag 10-20min after workout
drink a whey shake before bed

[Paul_2_Oh]

ummm which one would you recommend? The powder one works quick for me because I drink it from my daughter's babysitter house and as soon as I get to the gym my ass is ready to go.

oh ya I use green mag with it.

whey shake in the morning
white flood 15-30min before workout
and green mag 10-20min after workout

If you're working on a timetable like coming from the sitters, keep with the powder if it's working. If you're able to tolerate WF for 30 mins without wanting to hit something, take Green Mag with it. That specific creatine profile seems to work better preworkout or at least 1/2 before and 1/2 after.

[simpleguy]

it's funny I feel like 80-90% of the people never cycle off pre w/o supps and they then come and say 'this didn't work, it was a complete waste'... your body will always adapt, so be smart... I know the CL rep suggests 10 days, but realistically even that is too little if you keep on jumping from a pre w/o supp to another year round

[J.O.B.]

it's funny I feel like 80-90% of the people never cycle off pre w/o supps and they then come and say 'this didn't work, it was a complete waste'... your body will always adapt, so be smart... I know the CL rep suggests 10 days, but realistically even that is too little if you keep on jumping from a pre w/o supp to another year round

yup 4 real if u need 2 double scoop any prewrkout u need a break

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Ok, I finished no-no explode about a week ago. And on the past 2 workouts I have been useing superpump-250. So I am going to compare.

As far as Pumps, Focus, and Energy go... In my opinion, no-explode helped more. But since of course it made my face break out where I shave I am not going to take it again. Superpump doesnt do that to me for some reason and it still does what it says as far as helping pumps, focus, and energy.

I still want to try White Flood, but I am going to stop taking these energy drinks for awhile once I finish this bottle of Super Pump.

*off topic* I just started halodrol liquigels today. Im going to be keeping track by recording my weight and taking a pic once a week. Ill post my results in the proper section in 30 days when it runs out. After that, Im laying off all supps except for my dieting of course. (food and protein drinks only)
awesome, thanks for giving white flood a shot. cycle off like 10 days before you start it up.

Why exactly should I cycle off of shock therapy before starting white flood? Was going to switch off to white flood almost immediately if I found it useful (sample ordered today). May take a week off because I'll likely be switching to a mini-cut routine/diet, but hell, any advice is well placed. :)


To give your CNS a break from stimulants !! :cool:
absolutely, very important and allows the stims to become potent once again.

I am using the powder. I'm out now and I had plan to order more today so since you just mension powder ummm which one would you recommend? The powder one works quick for me because I drink it from my daughter's babysitter house and as soon as I get to the gym my ass is ready to go.


oh ya I use green mag with it.

so here is my stack

animal pak in the morning
whey shake in the morning
white flood 15-30min before workout
and green mag 10-20min after workout
drink a whey shake before bed
great stack, if you like the powder then stick with it. the sample is the white flood tablets .

[RickStaaa]

anyone else really sensitive to stimulents and has tried white flood? as much as i would love to go in guns blazing and take the whole damn sample i don't think that would be a good idea XD. any dosage recommendations? i was planning on just taking half and see how i react. Also since this is going to be the first time taking a supplement like this how long before my workout do i take this?

[SparqTheRuthless]

I like superpump, and ragnorak, no xplode sucks its great at first but you get used to it too quick.

[Paul_2_Oh]

as much as i would love to go in guns blazing and take the whole damn sample i don't think that would be a good idea XD. any dosage recommendations? i was planning on just taking half and see how i react. Also since this is going to be the first time taking a supplement like this how long before my workout do i take this?
If the sample is 2 scoops worth, then definitely take half your first time. If you claim you are sensitive to caffeine (which is rare in today's world), 1 scoop or half a serving should suit you fine. You'll get 2 solid workouts out of one sample.

As for timing, I would say it will kick you in the mouth pretty quick so 15-20 minutes. You'll feel it before that but your body needs a "grip" before you bumrush the weights.

[liquid_silver]

Im addicted to CMI 24/7 I got a sample when i ordered last from the store. I decided to try it on a day that i was having to force myself to workout. I got in there and had a great workout and had crazy pumps. I ordered myself a jug that same day! I probably would have never tried it without a sample so im glad that bodybuilding.com has that option to get some free samples with your order.

[sctrey99]

I like superpump, and ragnorak, no xplode sucks its great at first but you get used to it too quick.

Yes, the first time I took Xplode was amazing. The second, third, and fourth time I was bouncing off the walls. But after awhile it didnt seem to have the same effect. Reguardless, each person is prob. going to respond a little different to each one of these drinks. In my opinion, just like with protein shakes, you have to keep trying until you find one you like and stick with it. And dont be afraid to switch up every now and then. They are all going to work.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

anyone else really sensitive to stimulents and has tried white flood? as much as i would love to go in guns blazing and take the whole damn sample i don't think that would be a good idea XD. any dosage recommendations? i was planning on just taking half and see how i react. Also since this is going to be the first time taking a supplement like this how long before my workout do i take this?

45 minutes pre. if you never take stimulants including coffee and soda, then go for 4 tabs, otherwise go for the 8

[dlandsma]

I have cycled on and of many pre workout drinks and hands down Nano Vapor takes the cake...I drink coffee when im off so I already have a high caffeine tolerance. Even though that is the case take 3 scoops to the dome and your a champion. I lift at least 10 lbs more and can pump out more reps when im on Nano Vapor. Then even when I want to stop working out my mind just tells me to keep going. The only choice is not which but how soon.

[chill414]

Hey my fellow bodybuilders, I vote n.o xplode top notch and the best pre workout ignitor on the market. pumps,focus,energy and taste! i use bsn products for my whole stack minus the multi vitamin due to them not having one YET! i get results from all the products i dont need to try others. bsn and my body equals TRAINING LIKE A FREAK! if u try n.o xplode and need to go elsewhere i have to say you just might not have enuff motivation to be a bodybuilder cause it starts with you and n.o xplode just gives the already focused bodybuilder the dose of upper hand you need. no miracles in this game just the extra support you need. thanks and no disrespect to other bodybuilders and their prefrence. TRAIN LIKE A FREAK AND FINISH FIRST!!!

[gorilla stance]

I like superpump, and ragnorak, no xplode sucks its great at first but you get used to it too quick.

superpump is nothing but gimmick. thing dont do nothing plus it taste nasty and make you **** alot and if you work out late then you wont be able to go to sleep.

white flood and no xplode got my vote

[JTFisher79]

I have been using superpump for a little while now but as soon as I am done with the container I will be going back to white flood but in the tablet form this time. I love the white flood. I am not bashing superpump but I guess it is one of those things where diferent things works for different people. I think that is why it is so hard to say one is better than another because everybody is different

[bloodsimple1234]

Plasmagen is one of the best if not best imho.Anyone I know who used it,really enjoys it to say the least!

Im about to start another bottle!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

superpump is nothing but gimmick. thing dont do nothing plus it taste nasty and make you **** alot and if you work out late then you wont be able to go to sleep.

white flood and no xplode got my vote


I have been using superpump for a little while now but as soon as I am done with the container I will be going back to white flood but in the tablet form this time. I love the white flood. I am not bashing superpump but I guess it is one of those things where diferent things works for different people. I think that is why it is so hard to say one is better than another because everybody is different

glad you guys are both loving white flood. the tablets are just as good as the powder and a lot more convenient :) (and we have free samples for your friends)

[sergio_lad]

That is easy it would have to be black powder it doesn't taste that bad it gives u the boost that u need and what a BOOST.

Black Powder by MRI labs such a great product only bad thing I would have to say is that it has way too much taurine and it can give u(at least to me) a mill taqycardia(is that how u spell it) well anyhow. Lets u recover faster and put on lean muscle well u do retain a little water due to the creatine that it has.

But overall great product thumbs up to MRI

[Jason515]

Nano Vapor gave me good boost but now I am going to try No-xplode and see the results.

[elicapel82]

I've tried NOxplode, NaNOvapor, superpump250 (sample), and now I'm on White Flood. W.F. hands down beats them all. I take it with Purple wrath for extreme energy, pump, and focus... It's hard to leave the gym!

[gympumpinjunkie]

No Explode= lost loads of energy during workout felt drained post

Fierce= loads of energy till the end and post workout still focused alert for few hours after

only tried these two but fierce rocks i could lift more and get more reps in

[PINO2007]

Plasmagen is one of the best if not best imho.Anyone I know who used it,really enjoys it to say the least!

Im about to start another bottle!

Just started using Plasmagen ........AMAZING PUMPS ! Using with Intrabolic-IntraXcell and having awesome workouts , soon adding Clout in the mix........

[JTFisher79]

glad you guys are both loving white flood. the tablets are just as good as the powder and a lot more convenient :) (and we have free samples for your friends)

did i hear free samples of white flood tablets

[urbanlifter]

I have tried a few of the most popular pre-workout supplements and can say every one has its strengths and weaknesses. First things first, we all know by now that these supplements by themselves they do not build muscle. It is the increase in energy and ingredients that "AID" in muscle development. Having got that out of the way, i always try to give people who are skeptic about pre-workout supps. these 3 reasons i take them.

1) (Main Reason) Increase in energy. After working 8-12 hour shifts a little pick me up in the energy department is needed.
2) Placebo Effect (motivation)- The mind is a very powerful tool during workouts. If you trick yourself into thinking you are taking something special you will be more confident and will pick up those 50lb dumbells instead of your normal 45lbs.
3) THE PUMP - Probably the least important, but you can see a difference in muscle fullness and vascularity for those who need extra motivation to work hard.

On to the pre-workout supplements i have tried out. I will not list these in order of "BEST to Worst" because opinions are way too subjective and vary from person to person. I have tried NO-Xplode, Nano Vapor, Superpump, and White Flood.

1) BSN NO-Xplode - The best selling product on the market. I think this sells better than any other because it is the most diverse in its effects. Taste is a little shocking at first because it is very tart and almost carbonated. Good energy, nice pumps, moderate increase in stamina. The cons - Your body quickly adapts to the effects and it leaves you feeling jittery for about an hour afterwards.

2) Nano Vapor - Backed by current and previous Mr. Olympia. Similar to the effects of BSN only i noticed an increase in strength with slightly smaller pumps. Taste is a little less schocking compared to BSN but there is a strange almost chemical after taste (nothing major). Plus side is that becasue of how fine the powder is you can take it about 15 minutes before workout instead of the normal 30-45 minutes it takes others to kick in. The Cons - I felt like i wore out a little quicker and about a half hour after workout i felt sick to my stomach. (everytime)

3) SuperPump 250 - I was hesitant to try this at first because of all the SuperDump reviews i had read. Fortunately, i did not experience any irregular BM's in relation to taking this supplement. This was probably hands down the best pump you will receive from any of the one i have tested. I literally thought my arms might explode during the last few sets of arm curls and this lasted a couple hours afterwards. Energy and stamina were above average and i did not have the jitters like BSN. Taste, refreshing orange, was better than expected and i thought it was more tolerable than any of the others. This one is my personal favorite!

4) White Flood - This is the most recent supplement i have taken to date. I would probably recommend this to people who have never taken any pre-workout supplements before. Mainly because it is the best bang for your buck but also because it is comparable to NO-Xplode in most catagories. The only thing i have noticed thast was different is that my stamina is increased. I feel like i could stay in the gym twice as long as normal on workout days.

Bottom Line - Pre-Workout supplements are basically all the same, only some have minor differences. Look on the lablels and you will find every one has creatine, NO, Special Blends (BS), caffeine, and a list of other amino acids and extracts that most people do even know. However, i choose to take them because they help renue my motivation and intensity during workouts. Spend your money wisely, if you want good results put most of your money into good food and quality protein products. Then if you have some cash left over try the trial or small sizes of these supplements. I know i have not said anything everyone has not heard before, but here are my 2 cents.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've tried NOxplode, NaNOvapor, superpump250 (sample), and now I'm on White Flood. W.F. hands down beats them all. I take it with Purple wrath for extreme energy, pump, and focus... It's hard to leave the gym!
awesome, glad you are enjoying them and we are honored that you think so highly of them :)

did i hear free samples of white flood tablets

sure did, check the link in my signature for details :)

[bloodsimple1234]

Just started using Plasmagen ........AMAZING PUMPS ! Using with Intrabolic-IntraXcell and having awesome workouts , soon adding Clout in the mix........

they sure are amazing pumps! glad it's working nicely for ya!

[IronMan9201]

Hey my fellow bodybuilders, I vote n.o xplode top notch and the best pre workout ignitor on the market. pumps,focus,energy and taste! i use bsn products for my whole stack minus the multi vitamin due to them not having one YET! i get results from all the products i dont need to try others. bsn and my body equals TRAINING LIKE A FREAK! if u try n.o xplode and need to go elsewhere i have to say you just might not have enuff motivation to be a bodybuilder cause it starts with you and n.o xplode just gives the already focused bodybuilder the dose of upper hand you need. no miracles in this game just the extra support you need. thanks and no disrespect to other bodybuilders and their prefrence. TRAIN LIKE A FREAK AND FINISH FIRST!!!

dude thats so great to know. wow i never knew that i could TRAIN LIKE A FREAK if i just used bsn products! im gonna go order some right now! bye fellow bodybuilders, gotta get me my BSN!......

dude seriously, who does he think he's fooling?

[bosco_]

I've tried numerous supplements from gainers to different NO stuff. I should have logged but I'm lazy, kudos to you that do that.

For Pre-workout NO/Pump stuff, I've recently finished White Flood stacked with Green MAGnitude and Purple WrAATH. I also supplement with B vitamins/multis/Maca/Ester-C/Fish and Flax Oil etc.

White Flood was definitely one of the best I've tried, great energy and the beta alanine gives a "tingle" it's a definite must try. It's very strong though as I've come to find out with NO stuff but I mix with a bit of Gatorade and chug it. Green MAGnitude is simply awesome. For the price and the serving size especially off of BB.com, you can't go wrong! PW is strong but great peri-workout also mixed with a bit of Gatorade. If you want to take the WF I see it's in capsule form, this is great because drinking it was a bit much.

My one problem with CL stuff is that online supp stores in Canada either don't carry most or any of their products which SUCKS. Because of the exchange rate, it's too expensive to order from BB.com which is disappointing because of the prices. If the shipping costs were less, it would maybe be worth it.

I have also tried Gaspari SuperPump which was very very good. Great tasting and awesome pump. Unfortunately, the gas and gastrointestinal distress it caused was unfortunate. It just wasn't worth the pump really.

I got sucked into trying MT NanoVapor and while it gives good energy, there was a huge crash after, pump was mediocre and the stuff tastes TERRIBLE. By the time I got to the end of the jug I was almost gagging and happy it was done.

NO-Explode was good.........for the first two workouts. This stuff is the MOST OVERRATED CRAP OUT THERE. Give me a break......Ronnie Coleman is endorsing it. It does taste good but the cost is a rip off as you have to keep taking more. I had to start taking around 3 scoops to feel anything, this is not good if you spent 60-70 on a tub. Brutal, same as Cell-Mass. (Endo-Rush was ok but as it's an RTD....it's $$$)

Dymatize Expand tasted great, decent energy but nothing special. I tried powder, not pills.

My next stack is VPX NoShotgun with VPX SyntheSize post w/o. Hopefully it's just as good as the Controlled Labs stuff.

Whew that was long but maybe that helps first time buyers.

[PANTSOUP]

Nanovapor works great for me.Amazing pumps and energy.

[T2TL]

Just started using Plasmagen ........AMAZING PUMPS ! Using with Intrabolic-IntraXcell and having awesome workouts , soon adding Clout in the mix........

Thanks for the support once again. :D You should start a log or journal for sure.

[samrawet]

you body is ok what you eat

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've tried numerous supplements from gainers to different NO stuff. I should have logged but I'm lazy, kudos to you that do that.

For Pre-workout NO/Pump stuff, I've recently finished White Flood stacked with Green MAGnitude and Purple WrAATH. I also supplement with B vitamins/multis/Maca/Ester-C/Fish and Flax Oil etc.

White Flood was definitely one of the best I've tried, great energy and the beta alanine gives a "tingle" it's a definite must try. It's very strong though as I've come to find out with NO stuff but I mix with a bit of Gatorade and chug it. Green MAGnitude is simply awesome. For the price and the serving size especially off of BB.com, you can't go wrong! PW is strong but great peri-workout also mixed with a bit of Gatorade. If you want to take the WF I see it's in capsule form, this is great because drinking it was a bit much.

My one problem with CL stuff is that online supp stores in Canada either don't carry most or any of their products which SUCKS. Because of the exchange rate, it's too expensive to order from BB.com which is disappointing because of the prices. If the shipping costs were less, it would maybe be worth it.

I have also tried Gaspari SuperPump which was very very good. Great tasting and awesome pump. Unfortunately, the gas and gastrointestinal distress it caused was unfortunate. It just wasn't worth the pump really.

I got sucked into trying MT NanoVapor and while it gives good energy, there was a huge crash after, pump was mediocre and the stuff tastes TERRIBLE. By the time I got to the end of the jug I was almost gagging and happy it was done.

NO-Explode was good.........for the first two workouts. This stuff is the MOST OVERRATED CRAP OUT THERE. Give me a break......Ronnie Coleman is endorsing it. It does taste good but the cost is a rip off as you have to keep taking more. I had to start taking around 3 scoops to feel anything, this is not good if you spent 60-70 on a tub. Brutal, same as Cell-Mass. (Endo-Rush was ok but as it's an RTD....it's $$$)

Dymatize Expand tasted great, decent energy but nothing special. I tried powder, not pills.

My next stack is VPX NoShotgun with VPX SyntheSize post w/o. Hopefully it's just as good as the Controlled Labs stuff.

Whew that was long but maybe that helps first time buyers.
glad you are loving our products. good news for canadians is that we finally got our health canada numbers on some more of our products and they should be hitting shelves and websites across the country in the coming days :)

[Chmbrs]

One of the guys im deployed with is taking White Flood and he swears by it. I used to take Sp 250 and that workded great for me.

[pu12en12g]

One of the guys im deployed with is taking White Flood and he swears by it. I used to take Sp 250 and that workded great for me.

Awesome, it's great when you find products that deliver ! :cool:

[samsuperjew5]

Jw, i've taken 2-3 months off of WF and any other caffine product, do you think if i jump back on, it'l work like it did the first time

[Paul_2_Oh]

I've been a long-time advocate for CL's products and I still am (use GM & OT). White Flood has been unmatched for me when it comes to pure energy and intensity, and I've tried NanoVapor, NOXplode and Shock Therapy but they weren't as impressive.

Then I did something dumb and tried SP250. Holy. Crap. (no pun) It doesn't have the kick in the face rush like WF (which I need sometimes), but on most occurrences the smooth 'power band' of SP250 has been absolutely amazing. I have an iron stomach so I have no GI problems like some others have, so that's a bonus. The taste is amazing, pumps are terrific and since I just ramped up my volume for my bulk; it lasts a good bit longer into my training than WF so I have been pleasantly surprised.

I still have my WF and use it for morning cardio/abs/weakpoint training I do once or twice a week so I am certainly not abandoning it. In my experience, these two are unmatched in the Pre-WO category.

[aggieman122]

i took whiteflood for the first time today and worked out chest for 1 hour and 45 mins lol it works

[CONTROLLED LABS]

One of the guys im deployed with is taking White Flood and he swears by it. I used to take Sp 250 and that workded great for me.
I take it he wont share :D

Jw, i've taken 2-3 months off of WF and any other caffine product, do you think if i jump back on, it'l work like it did the first time
yup, should be

I've been a long-time advocate for CL's products and I still am (use GM & OT). White Flood has been unmatched for me when it comes to pure energy and intensity, and I've tried NanoVapor, NOXplode and Shock Therapy but they weren't as impressive.

Then I did something dumb and tried SP250. Holy. Crap. (no pun) It doesn't have the kick in the face rush like WF (which I need sometimes), but on most occurrences the smooth 'power band' of SP250 has been absolutely amazing. I have an iron stomach so I have no GI problems like some others have, so that's a bonus. The taste is amazing, pumps are terrific and since I just ramped up my volume for my bulk; it lasts a good bit longer into my training than WF so I have been pleasantly surprised.

I still have my WF and use it for morning cardio/abs/weakpoint training I do once or twice a week so I am certainly not abandoning it. In my experience, these two are unmatched in the Pre-WO category.


i took whiteflood for the first time today and worked out chest for 1 hour and 45 mins lol it works
thanks for the feedback guys :)

[PDUBB26]

From my experiences using Nano Vapor and NO Explode i would go for the Nano everytime with the amount of focus/intensity I received from it. I didn't receive any significant pump with the NO Explode either, however I'm looking forward to trying White Flood.

[gabecamp]

everyone should give juggernaut by infanite labs a try. It truly is a great product. the ingrediants aren't hidden in propierty blend either. Pumps are ****ing insane, energy is pretty intense on two scoops. By far one of the best pre-workout supps. I've taken. The best part is you don't get the screaming ****s like with alot of the crap thats out there. Awesome taste too.

[style_Rz]

I've been using White flood and purple wrath for two days now and.. Holy ****! i literally have to pull my self away from the gym.

Its still early and I cant wait to see how these products affect my results in the long run

I'm Logging it
check it out :)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=254544501#post254544501

Lift in color, POST in color ;)
Great advertising.

[naturalguy]

oh god shock therapy is good ****,likeone scoop gives me massive energy focus etc for like 3 to 4 hours plus you get 50 serves per tub


Never tried Xpand... however, some other mentionables...

Shock Therapy
White Flood
Animal Pump

are all very good and a great bang for your buck (especially Shock Therapy).

For the whey protein, look for a protein w/ whey isolates for weight loss, but don't neglect casein and other forms of protein as well. Eat clean, intense, but short workouts, and cardio!!!

For price/results you can't beat Shock Therapy

[gabecamp]

I know everyone gets affected diferent by supps. but, shock therepy gives me the ****s something fierce. Juggernaut is WAY better.

[unplugged]

Hey guys, it's unplugged. Ive only tried NO xplode as far as creatine/NO surges go and it was pretty ****ing wicked. I do however use NO pills that my friend buys from his friend and they work really good.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

From my experiences using Nano Vapor and NO Explode i would go for the Nano everytime with the amount of focus/intensity I received from it. I didn't receive any significant pump with the NO Explode either, however I'm looking forward to trying White Flood.
glad to hear it, keep us posted on your results

Great advertising.

he doesnt work for cl, its not advertising, its a testimonial.

[Lord-MarDuke]

I can't believe not a whole lot of people have used Stone Dragon! The stuff has always given me the best results. I'm about to order some White Flood and Superpump250.

Best to worst. Remember, these results vary from person to person.

Stone Dragon - Absolute insanity! Its like being kind of dizzy and sleepy about 30-40 minutes after taking it... but then once you grab weights, you just start throwing them up and down! I still keep going back to this after using other stuff.

NO Explode - I know I can go back to this if need be because it does work.
Ragnarok - Average/makes you poop
Nos Blast - Average

NANO Vapor - Didn't seem to do anything and I got winded way to quick. Workouts were more fail than anything. By far the easiest supplement to drink though.
NO Shotgun - Didn't do anything except prevent me from sleeping 7 hours later... and it also tasted like death.

[samsuperjew5]

^^^^ i always get suspicious when someone w/ sub 10 posts comes in with an awesome testimonial

[tonentrim]

Tea n Biscuits!

[Lord-MarDuke]

^^^^ i always get suspicious when someone w/ sub 10 posts comes in with an awesome testimonial


Not really an awesome testimonial in my opinion. Like I said, the results will vary. What does post number have to do with anything anyways? Do you just question the noobs' posts? Stone Dragon is the best product I've used out of all the ones I've tried. Whats wrong with that? Most people have a product that they like using over any others.

[samsuperjew5]

50% of your posts are promoting stone dragon lol

[Lord-MarDuke]

And give me a break man. I'm not on here very often, but when I come on, its usually looking for something to try. Which is what I'm doing now. Looking for something to try because there is always a better product. Right now, I'm going to try out a few different products and see how they work. In the midst of my research, I felt the need to share my opinion in a thread, and you're instantly jumping on me because I don't have TONS of posts?


50% of your posts are promoting stone dragon lol

Because I love it! It works! And works better than anything I've tried by a margin!

I'm sure there is more than one person who has MULTIPLE posts "promoting" the use of a certain product. Why are you jumping on me about it? You're basically saying that people with low post numbers shouldn't be taken seriously? Someone with 2 posts could know way more about lifting than someone with thousands... to dismiss them on a superior bias like you're doing is just illogical.

[mk53220]

What is the best tasting flavor of NANO Vapor??

[J.O.B.]

i hate the fake ppl that post about controlled labs im logn it lift n color BS

[J.O.B.]

best pre workout that doesnt make you crash ,burn up, or rush to your gyms toliet it stil gets u jackd n pumpd XLEVOL and BLACK POWDER try them and you wil never go back to any vapor, shotgun no xplode, or super pump i swear, here try this go 2 your local GNC buy a small thing of black powder try it for a week if you like your horrible product better bring it back n get your money back. . . . keep your receipt, if u pay wit a card you need to bring it when you return it, it has to be within 30 days and the product has to b at least half full

[Lord-MarDuke]

best pre workout that doesnt make you crash ,burn up, or rush to your gyms toliet it stil gets u jackd n pumpd XLEVOL and BLACK POWDER try them and you wil never go back to any vapor, shotgun no xplode, or super pump i swear, here try this go 2 your local GNC buy a small thing of black powder try it for a week if you like your horrible product better bring it back n get your money back. . . . keep your receipt, if u pay wit a card you need to bring it when you return it, it has to be within 30 days and the product has to b at least half full



You've only got 40 posts... your opinion doesn't count.

Looking these products up now.

[samsuperjew5]

black powder sucked

[J.O.B.]

black powder sucked

this guy again huh, and what do you take?

[samsuperjew5]

caffine

[J.O.B.]

ok so no pump, jst dwnin a rockstar

[Peter LeDrew]

Obviously not many here have tried PreSurge yet or your opinion of what a pre-workout should be, would have forever changed. Pump, creatine, energy and more in one product.

[samsuperjew5]

no... bulk caffine products ftw, occasionaly if i can afford it i'll add arginene powder

i tried wf once... and was pleased though... but i'm low on dough recently :(

[J.O.B.]

You've only got 40 posts... your opinion doesn't count.

Looking these products up now.

lol ok and i know more about nutrition thn most of the ppl, uhhhhhh muscle tech n bsn let me look n my wallet ok here u sales rep u need anymore commission 4 these over priced crap?? i dnt really care if u dnt think it counts i only post to help the ppl who dont no any better get products that give real results

[J.O.B.]

Obviously not many here have tried PreSurge yet or your opinion of what a pre-workout should be, would have forever changed. Pump, creatine, energy and more in one product.

il take a look

[Lord-MarDuke]

lol ok and i know more about nutrition thn most of the ppl, uhhhhhh muscle tech n bsn let me look n my wallet ok here u sales rep u need anymore commission 4 these over priced crap?? i dnt really care if u dnt think it counts i only post to help the ppl who dont no any better get products that give real results

Was being sarcastic.

[J.O.B.]

no... bulk caffine products ftw, occasionaly if i can afford it i'll add arginene powder

i tried wf once... and was pleased though... but i'm low on dough recently :(

hard times every where trust me, iv been without pre workout 4 3 months, do the gnc thing get a big tub use 2 weeks of it or half of it n return it lol

[J.O.B.]

Was being sarcastic.

thn sry lol

[J.O.B.]

Obviously not many here have tried PreSurge yet or your opinion of what a pre-workout should be, would have forever changed. Pump, creatine, energy and more in one product.

pills man? never been a big fan of pre workout pills besides dymatizes product

[naturalguy]

pills man? never been a big fan of pre workout pills besides dymatizes product

Animal Pump is a great option as far as pills go, it's a complete pre workout formula. You can get a free sample:

http://www.universalnutrition.com

[Peter LeDrew]

pills man? never been a big fan of pre workout pills besides dymatizes product

What is the downsides of pills?

Many of the best pre-workout ingredients taste like crap and many pre-workout products also taste like crap.

Pills= No taste like crap. Precise dosing to dial in your best custom dose. Staggered dosing for better effect. Conveinence of taking pills at any time whever you are... probably more ++++'s.

[gridironwarrior]

Obviously not many here have tried PreSurge yet or your opinion of what a pre-workout should be, would have forever changed. Pump, creatine, energy and more in one product.

4 caps of Presurge w/ 1scoop Shock Therapy= f ucking sick workout!

[Madevilz]

hey guys, what's the best preworkout supp without stims?

[Adjusting]

no... bulk caffine products ftw, occasionaly if i can afford it i'll add arginene powder

i tried wf once... and was pleased though... but i'm low on dough recently :(

Are you using caffeine now? I thought that was a no, no?

[Adjusting]

hey guys, what's the best preworkout supp without stims?

Straight-up, protein and amino's. Especially, l-leucine to signal mTOR.

[simpleguy]

^^^^ i always get suspicious when someone w/ sub 10 posts comes in with an awesome testimonial

not directed at anyone, but I agree... you see a load of crazy reviews from guys whose first post swears by no explode, or cell-tech


hey guys, what's the best preworkout supp without stims?

I'd go with one of these:

1. animal pump - take all pills except the red one (which has the stims)

2. white blood

[J.O.B.]

What is the downsides of pills?

Many of the best pre-workout ingredients taste like crap and many pre-workout products also taste like crap.

Pills= No taste like crap. Precise dosing to dial in your best custom dose. Staggered dosing for better effect. Conveinence of taking pills at any time whever you are... probably more ++++'s.

presurge has it but most dont have caffine, i dnt feel it as quick 2 me but if i want a bad ass pump or a lil extra edge il take XLevol thn a couple x9s lol i hate muscle tech but they wer free n i cant argue with free

[J.O.B.]

Animal Pump is a great option as far as pills go, it's a complete pre workout formula. You can get a free sample:

http://www.universalnutrition.com

i hear this a lot but the price is a the only thing keepin frm buyin, i find what works thn stick wit it n more thn half the time i get my sups 4 free, except pre workout

[J.O.B.]

Straight-up, protein and amino's. Especially, l-leucine to signal mTOR.

whats ur leucine product? i wish i could find straight leucine powder

[DwithBeneFITPT]

NaNo Vapor is definitely the best product out. i haven't tried very many but i don't really want to. i'm so focused when i use it. 2 thumbs up.
I didnt like it too much
But i recently tried VPX's new BANG it was amazing. I can usually take the same preworkout for no more then two weeks or so, so basically i am buying individule drinks or packets each time.
but try bang or pump 7 you'll love it

[Wicked_Edge]

Out of everything I've taken, NaNo Vapor and SuperPump250 are the best, specially the first few times. NO-Xplode is good as well, Animal Pump didn't do much for me.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

not directed at anyone, but I agree... you see a load of crazy reviews from guys whose first post swears by no explode, or cell-tech



I'd go with one of these:

1. animal pump - take all pills except the red one (which has the stims)

2. white blood

white blood is an awesome choice for those who lift at night or are cycling off of stims. white flood is for those who lift during the day and want the energy as well

[GoUGA8383]

I haven't tried alot but my favorite so far is PreSurge. Lots of focus!

[pokerdude069]

black powder is awesome, not alot of caffine so you dont feel all jittery and stuff, but the pump is unreal. after a few tubs i tried fuel pump and is just as good, but i think its basicly the same thing. anyone try fuel pump?

[AlexC713]

This is the one that works best for me. I've tried NO Xplode also, it was good when it first came out but then they changed it and now it only makes me burp a WHOLE LOT! As far as SP250, man, if you take 1 1/2 scoops, you'll be wired up, but like all stimulants, it depends on the person and how much caffeine you're accustomed to.

[BenRea]

Ya'll should check out my Scivation Vasocharge review:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=112686811

[dj_blueprint]

I tried BSN's No Xplode and got many unusual stool movements (along with deydrating myself through them).

White flood is much 'cleaner', in that, I don't get any stool movements and I still get energy and focus without actually ingesting nearly as much powder.

Bear in mind, I'm a noob.

[Radujko]

Hi everyone, im new to the website and to working out in general. I started working out two years from this December. I stopped drinking, eating sweets, I cook all my own food and I don't take any supplements. I work out 6 days and week, sometimes 7, and understood why everyone is drinking these protein shakes and taking pills? Everyone tells me I have good genetics but that I should get bigger and bigger, but when I started exercising I lifted the same weight for about a year, never going up 1 lb. I have seen amazing results and am hesitant to take a supplement in order to bulk up and then trim down. Why is it that people take this route instead of just working with what they have? Thanks

[RandallH19891]

Wait.. You made good gains this year, but not the prior year, right? So do what you're doing now..?

Supplements are just that. They will not replace your program / diet, only supplement it. Maybe it's time to eat more and lift heavier or something. Kind of hard to tell without knowing what you do.

[fumanchu808]

It's been a toss up between Animal Pump and Superpump250 for me. Animal pump seems harsher, even when I only take a portion of the red pill, but it has more staying power for me.

Superpump I think is better for my overall fitness goals though. Smoother, cleaner feeling energy which seems to translate to better results. I have half a tub of Animal Pump left but I'm enjoying my workouts on Superpump in the meantime.

Really Superpump's fruit punch tastes so good to me that, that's the deciding factor. It's like drinking some kind of special cool-aid.

*note- I imagine how alkaline someones PH is is going to have a big factor in how well they absorb Animal Pump since a portion of animal pump comes in the form of compressed pills. As I understand it people who are less alkaline have weaker stomach acid and subsequently don't digest hard pills (or food in general) as well. Might be one of the reasons some people just don't seem to get much out of Animal Pump despite how intense it is (I've yet to take anything from Universal that wasn't intense personally).

[fischetti]

Its official universal shock therapy stacked with universal storm is the best pre workout formula i have ever taken,it made my muscles bulge painfully:)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I tried BSN's No Xplode and got many unusual stool movements (along with deydrating myself through them).

White flood is much 'cleaner', in that, I don't get any stool movements and I still get energy and focus without actually ingesting nearly as much powder.

Bear in mind, I'm a noob.

glad to hear you are enjoying white flood

[Lifter4Life59]

I was gonna wait until the end of my second week on this stuff to post again but today I saw veins that i have never seen before, i was stoked haha! Just had to share, dont know why i waited this long to buy it!

[Lifter4Life59]

Its official universal shock therapy stacked with universal storm is the best pre workout formula i have ever taken,it made my muscles bulge painfully:)

my buddy did the stack once, you take the storm after the workout correct? thats what he said he did

[Derly]

The only pre-workout supp I've tried before is NaNO Vapor, and it worked. The first time I took it I couldn't believe how pumped I was, and I was just going crazy in the gym. I even got a couple of friends to try it and one of them liked it so much he went out the next day to buy himself a tub.

It gave me a ton of energy, a ton of focus, and a lot of pump. The problem was gaining a tolerance to it quickly. It wasn't more than 3 weeks on it that I noticed I had to kick up the dosage to feel it, and then at some point I just realized I had to stop taking it because it wasn't doing enough. But it was worth it to stay off for a couple weeks and get back on at a lower dosage.

I think the best part about it was how fast it set in. It felt almost instant, and you could tell just from increase vascularity on both me and my friend that bought it.

I also associate it with a pretty hard crash after taking it. Combined with stress of college itself I would often times come back to my dorm, shower, lay down in bed and pass out for a couple hours before waking up to do something at night.

It's been a long time since I've used a pre-workout pump supp. I've ordered White Flood, and I'm hoping to get some good results with it. It like price of it, and I'll be happy if it's anywhere near as effective as NaNO Vapor.

[fischetti]

my buddy did the stack once, you take the storm after the workout correct? thats what he said he did

yes i take storm with shock pre workout and then storm after,no **** man i have tried some supplements Noxplode, vapor, nitrix,celltech,super pump,shock with storm is unreal even my girlfriend was shocked at how big its getting me:)i was bulging so much after a workout she went and got a camera and took a pic.

[gridironwarrior]

yes i take storm with shock pre workout and then storm after,no **** man i have tried some supplements Noxplode, vapor, nitrix,celltech,super pump,shock with storm is unreal even my girlfriend was shocked at how big its getting me:)i was bulging so much after a workout she went and got a camera and took a pic.

I hear ya. Shock pre workout and Storm with Intra Aid or IntrAbolic with PW or EAA Stack will make you explode.

[fischetti]

I hear ya. Shock pre workout and Storm with Intra Aid or IntrAbolic with PW or EAA Stack will make you explode.

I try to keep it as simple as possible just pre= shock with storm and storm after,i think intra supplements are not needed just plain water intra,im thinking of adding waxy maize starch to the stack that should make it work like its on nitro but trust me its not needed this stack is awsome by it self and i dont really respond usally to creatine:)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I was gonna wait until the end of my second week on this stuff to post again but today I saw veins that i have never seen before, i was stoked haha! Just had to share, dont know why i waited this long to buy it!
glad you are enjoying white flood and thanks for the feedback. you have the powder or tablets?

I've ordered White Flood, and I'm hoping to get some good results with it. It like price of it, and I'll be happy if it's anywhere near as effective as NaNO Vapor.

keep us posted for sure

[J.O.B.]

I didnt like it too much
But i recently tried VPX's new BANG it was amazing. I can usually take the same preworkout for no more then two weeks or so, so basically i am buying individule drinks or packets each time.
but try bang or pump 7 you'll love it

i thought bang was their new ph balanced creatine

[Derly]

glad you are enjoying white flood and thanks for the feedback. you have the powder or tablets?


keep us posted for sure
I definately will do. It's supposed to arrive tomorrow. I'm getting both GM and WF together. Today was an off day, so I'll definately be trying tomorrow. I'll probably not take the GM as I already have some CEE pills.

[_Ragnar_]

I would say nanovapor or superpump 250

[gabecamp]

has anyone tried dark rage by MHP? It is supposed to be stonger than anything out there. Check it out , it has some impresive ingrediants in it that no other pre-workout supp has. Can't wait to try it. Right now though, juggernaut and No-Explode ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!

[Fedor23]

I have been taking White Flood for a few weeks now and it has been giving me good energy throughout my workouts.. It is my first pre-workout energy supplement I have taken and it has been working terrific thus far.. Going to take it another few weeks and see how it goes..

[cubbieblue86]

Superpump 250 Grape is tasty for a supplement drink

[BabyGunz76]

really debating on trying something new and i have to say im looking at controlled labs green mag and white flood but not sure if i wanna just jump in and buy a bottle of both without trying it.. may try to look around for samples, ive heard really good things about it before.

my favorite has been nanovapor

[Derly]

I have been taking White Flood for a few weeks now and it has been giving me good energy throughout my workouts.. It is my first pre-workout energy supplement I have taken and it has been working terrific thus far.. Going to take it another few weeks and see how it goes..
If anything you should finish what you have, then take a 2-3 week break and come back to it, or try another product. If you like it then I'd come back to it after the break however.

[Fedor23]

That's what I am going to do.. It has been great so far, don't want my body to get use to it.. Might take a month or so off from using it, but I am going to go back to it..

[Matt60]

So far i've tried the NO3 overload by CMI and the NaNO Vapor and of the two definately the Vapor but I am prolly gunna try the SP250 next.

The NO3 for the first workout was rediculous but after that my tolerance went up VERY quickly. The energy was pretty intense, when doing cardio i wouldnt get tired regardless of how hard I went. Pump wasn't that great though and it tasted like absolute crap! (pink lemonade)

Vapor actually tasted really good imo (fruit punch) and the pump and energy combined were both good but not amazing it left me wanting a more intense product.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I definately will do. It's supposed to arrive tomorrow. I'm getting both GM and WF together. Today was an off day, so I'll definately be trying tomorrow. I'll probably not take the GM as I already have some CEE pills.
excellent. yeah finish off what you have first.

I have been taking White Flood for a few weeks now and it has been giving me good energy throughout my workouts.. It is my first pre-workout energy supplement I have taken and it has been working terrific thus far.. Going to take it another few weeks and see how it goes..
awesome.

really debating on trying something new and i have to say im looking at controlled labs green mag and white flood but not sure if i wanna just jump in and buy a bottle of both without trying it.. may try to look around for samples, ive heard really good things about it before.

my favorite has been nanovapor
you can go for the half size tub of each or try the samples first.

If anything you should finish what you have, then take a 2-3 week break and come back to it, or try another product. If you like it then I'd come back to it after the break however.

absolutely, always finish the product off before starting a new one. if left open for additional months it could absorb moisture.

[BabyGunz76]

you can go for the half size tub of each or try the samples first.


absolutely, always finish the product off before starting a new one. if left open for additional months it could absorb moisture.

yah may try a sample or two then get a bottle after the holidays if i like it

[Derly]

So I tried the White Flood I got today, and it was alright. I tried one scoop at first to access tolerance, half a scoop just didn't seem like enough, I started to get a mild tingle in m face after about 5 minutes, which would come in waves. After about 25 minutes I felt a decent amount of energy. I started working out, and did a couple sets of exercises. I decided the pump wasn't enough so I drank one more scoop which was about 10 minutes into the workout.

Through the second half of the workout I really started to feel the pump and energy. So I decided next time I'm just going to start with the full 2 scoops at once.

However, I would say it's not as intense as NaNO vapor, and still left me with some jitters. It also doesn't set in as quickly as the NaNO did, but I knew that before I bought the WF. I did like the taste of WF a lot more than NaNO though, I used to have the Blue Raspberry flavor. The Lemonade flavor of WF almost reminds me of lemon drops just not as sweet, and with a slight chemical taste.


excellent. yeah finish off what you have first.
I have a question though about finishing my current creatine before starting GM. Do you think the WF will last a little less than a month without absorbing water? I wanna finish what I have of the creatine I have, so I can stack GM and WF together. I still have both of the silica packets in the WF.

[not_big_enuf]

Best I have used is **** "WTF Pump'd" -- gets you focused, great pump, no crash, and just WORKS. The one thing I like about WTF is that it seems to give me the best focus. It doesn't the best, but I put it in with some lemondade crystal lite and it's all good.

No Explode is probably next for me. It was great at first but I quickly gained a tolerance to it. Since then I've never had the same reaction to it, even with months or more of being OFF of it.

I have some Superpump samples coming but also want to try out White Flood too. Controlled Labs products have proven to be pretty dang good in the past.

[IronMan9201]

i tried a sample of shock therapy and it was ok. made my ears hot and definately felt thermogenic. some energy though didn't feel much from this besides a crazy thermogenic effect, more than what i got from a fat burner. hmm

bought jug of superpump. first note was that it actualy tasted decent. now if you water it down in like 20 oz of water it actualy tastes GOOD. like i would drink it for fun/energy if i was like realy tired for school. anyway havn't been on it long, only like four or five days and im still getting the servings down. i've been using one scoop and i don't get a rush of energy or a lot of it at the start of my workout but i find that it comes on very steadily, and you almost don't notice it, but it peaks during your workout and im ok with that because it does come. also virtualy no crash and actualy if i take it right before i lift in my first period at school (about 8:15) i am still feeling the energy and maybe even a little jittery all the way till about 11-12. now i am in no way sensitive to stims and all the other pre workouts i've taken stop giving me the energy about a half hour after an intense workout. this just keeps me going. i don't get much pump from this though but it might improve when i go up to 1.5 or 2 scoops. now i don't know if this is from superpump250 or not cause i forget when this started, but i suspect it is, but i've had to **** alot lately and its not very nice if you know what i mean. but it hasn't bothered me during my workouts but before and after is when it hits me. hope this helps

[mr_teenuniverse]

Ultimate nutrition "horse power" its insane

[brandonheat4]

MHP Dark Matter,

[simpleguy]

i tried a sample of shock therapy and it was ok. made my ears hot and definately felt thermogenic. some energy though didn't feel much from this besides a crazy thermogenic effect, more than what i got from a fat burner. hmm

bought jug of superpump. first note was that it actualy tasted decent. now if you water it down in like 20 oz of water it actualy tastes GOOD. like i would drink it for fun/energy if i was like realy tired for school. anyway havn't been on it long, only like four or five days and im still getting the servings down. i've been using one scoop and i don't get a rush of energy or a lot of it at the start of my workout but i find that it comes on very steadily, and you almost don't notice it, but it peaks during your workout and im ok with that because it does come. also virtualy no crash and actualy if i take it right before i lift in my first period at school (about 8:15) i am still feeling the energy and maybe even a little jittery all the way till about 11-12. now i am in no way sensitive to stims and all the other pre workouts i've taken stop giving me the energy about a half hour after an intense workout. this just keeps me going. i don't get much pump from this though but it might improve when i go up to 1.5 or 2 scoops. now i don't know if this is from superpump250 or not cause i forget when this started, but i suspect it is, but i've had to **** alot lately and its not very nice if you know what i mean. but it hasn't bothered me during my workouts but before and after is when it hits me. hope this helps


yeah i felt the same thing... as if SP250 acts over a prolonged period of time, whereas most pre w/o supps cause you to crash quickly after your workout or so... I felt a mild, but steady flow of energy, and personally I never had bowel problems even with 2 scoops... which is funny cause I get them even with 1 scoop of no explode (never buy that again)
now I'll be taking a short break off from pre w/o supps and then I might look into WF, we'll see... not that the superpump wasn't good, but I like trying new things, see how that works

[bigbam33]

This is the reason I get out of bed in the morning. NO-Xplode gets the blood rushing throughout my body and gives me the push I need to get pumped.

[EllusioN]

Why isnt there a poll or something, WHATS THE BEST ONE!??!?!?!

[buchdogg]

I have tried many pre workout products over the years, and I can say almost all of them work. However, some work better than others. I have tried: Superpump 250, Animal Pump, GAKIC Hardcore, NO Xplode, White Flood, Labrada Supercharge(both new and old formulas), SAN Fierce and I am sure a few others. I am about to try Applied Nutriceuticals RPM next and will let you know how that stacks up.
For now, to me, it comes down to only two choices: White Flood or Labrada Supercharge (and hopefully RPM as I have had success with AN products so far)
In my opinion two very important things to consider are caffeine intake (My diet is a zero caffeine diet, so I respond to caffeine in pre workout formulas in a noticeable manner) and Beta Alanine content. I personally respond very well to beta alanine. You may or may not, I have no way of knowing since everybody's body is different. But I will tell you that purchasing a tub of White Flood or Supercharge would be a worthwhile experiment at the very least.

[pushuporshutup]

I got a tub of N.O Shotgun today as it was on sale. I usually take 2 1/2 scoops of N.O explode, but I only took one of Shotgun and it was still better. This stuff rocks.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

So I tried the White Flood I got today, and it was alright. I tried one scoop at first to access tolerance, half a scoop just didn't seem like enough, I started to get a mild tingle in m face after about 5 minutes, which would come in waves. After about 25 minutes I felt a decent amount of energy. I started working out, and did a couple sets of exercises. I decided the pump wasn't enough so I drank one more scoop which was about 10 minutes into the workout.

Through the second half of the workout I really started to feel the pump and energy. So I decided next time I'm just going to start with the full 2 scoops at once.

However, I would say it's not as intense as NaNO vapor, and still left me with some jitters. It also doesn't set in as quickly as the NaNO did, but I knew that before I bought the WF. I did like the taste of WF a lot more than NaNO though, I used to have the Blue Raspberry flavor. The Lemonade flavor of WF almost reminds me of lemon drops just not as sweet, and with a slight chemical taste.


I have a question though about finishing my current creatine before starting GM. Do you think the WF will last a little less than a month without absorbing water? I wanna finish what I have of the creatine I have, so I can stack GM and WF together. I still have both of the silica packets in the WF.
yeah, the 2 scoops (1 serving) is great. I wouldnt have opened the white flood if you dont intend to use it for a month. I would use it with the other creatine product first then switch to green mag combined with it.

Best I have used is **** "WTF Pump'd" -- gets you focused, great pump, no crash, and just WORKS. The one thing I like about WTF is that it seems to give me the best focus. It doesn't the best, but I put it in with some lemondade crystal lite and it's all good.

No Explode is probably next for me. It was great at first but I quickly gained a tolerance to it. Since then I've never had the same reaction to it, even with months or more of being OFF of it.

I have some Superpump samples coming but also want to try out White Flood too. Controlled Labs products have proven to be pretty dang good in the past.
glad to hear you want to try white flood, keep us posted

yeah i felt the same thing... as if SP250 acts over a prolonged period of time, whereas most pre w/o supps cause you to crash quickly after your workout or so... I felt a mild, but steady flow of energy, and personally I never had bowel problems even with 2 scoops... which is funny cause I get them even with 1 scoop of no explode (never buy that again)
now I'll be taking a short break off from pre w/o supps and then I might look into WF, we'll see... not that the superpump wasn't good, but I like trying new things, see how that works
keep us posted if you try out white flood

I have tried many pre workout products over the years, and I can say almost all of them work. However, some work better than others. I have tried: Superpump 250, Animal Pump, GAKIC Hardcore, NO Xplode, White Flood, Labrada Supercharge(both new and old formulas), SAN Fierce and I am sure a few others. I am about to try Applied Nutriceuticals RPM next and will let you know how that stacks up.
For now, to me, it comes down to only two choices: White Flood or Labrada Supercharge (and hopefully RPM as I have had success with AN products so far)
In my opinion two very important things to consider are caffeine intake (My diet is a zero caffeine diet, so I respond to caffeine in pre workout formulas in a noticeable manner) and Beta Alanine content. I personally respond very well to beta alanine. You may or may not, I have no way of knowing since everybody's body is different. But I will tell you that purchasing a tub of White Flood or Supercharge would be a worthwhile experiment at the very least.

awesome, thanks for trying white flood

[ShawNN]

NO Shotgun v3...its a complete pre workout!!! BCAAS,Creatin,thermogenic,and NO

[blueearthmn]

I haven't used many but I was amazed by the pump I got from NoXplode!!!

[JTFisher79]

I cant wait to try the white flood pills. Are there samples yet

[AMillane7]

I cant wait to try the white flood pills. Are there samples yet

Yes there are!

Also, check this out if you want my take on em!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=111328881

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I cant wait to try the white flood pills. Are there samples yet
yup, you ordered a bottle already?

Yes there are!

Also, check this out if you want my take on em!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=111328881

awesome

[JTFisher79]

I didnt order a bottle yet, Waiting until my white flood powder is done

[Dom11]

I tried the sample of white flood in the tabs, I have it in powder but wanted to see if there was a different. I didn't get the same rush with the tabs as I do with the powder.

[ZachG85]

Tabs are never as effective as a powder. The tab has to dissolve in your stomach, or the outer cap has to melt away or whatever. With a powder in water, it's pretty much straight absorbed through the stomach.

[TeamMaf]

No xplode has been my choice for the last year. Just make sure if you try it that its MFD date is within the last 4 months as potency issues can become a factor.

[USA2020]

Arnge Krush by Biorythm-ADS. Awesome focus, pumps and stamina - plain and simple. Always get the same result from every serving - so it seems to be a well balanced - produced product gram for gram.
Thought I'd swithc and tried a jug of NDS - Pump Fuel Platinum series. Like the waxy, but not as good as the Krush! Will probably buy more Krush and supp in the waxy.

[Fitzwell]

Absolutely loved Muscletech's Leukic Hardcore. Went into the workout alert, pumped up, excited, and ready to put up big weights

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I didnt order a bottle yet, Waiting until my white flood powder is done
cool, keep us posted when you give it a shot

I tried the sample of white flood in the tabs, I have it in powder but wanted to see if there was a different. I didn't get the same rush with the tabs as I do with the powder.
correct, powder hits faster but energy disappears faster too. the tabs are a longer sustained energy, but not as potent as the powder.

[simpleguy]

No xplode has been my choice for the last year. Just make sure if you try it that its MFD date is within the last 4 months as potency issues can become a factor.

LOL @ your avatar

[Marshall28]

SP 250 and CMI overload.... Can't go wrong with either of them!

[damiz]

So far no-shotgun has given me the most energy and pump... Ive tried NO-xplode and I get used to the effects after two days.... pathetic. I get used to NO-shotgun after a few weeks and have to cycle off and the effects come back after resuming.

[enswalters]

I ordered the samples of White Flood, Green Mag, and Purple Wraath from bb.com with my last order, and today I ordered the combo pack of all 3 (small size) for about $75. After reading all the reviews on here, trying it out myself, and comparing prices, it just seems like this combo is the best value.

I'm starting my 2nd cycle of the P90X program, and I found that I need a little more help with energy/recovery now that I'm in the my late 30's than I did when I was younger.

[Pat369]

So far no-shotgun has given me the most energy and pump... Ive tried NO-xplode and I get used to the effects after two days.... pathetic. I get used to NO-shotgun after a few weeks and have to cycle off and the effects come back after resuming.
whats NO-Shotgun like compared to NO-Xplode...i use xplode but some days i notice that it doesnt have that same PUMP effect as other days

[monster555]

My experience...
1 NO PLasmacore(the best)!!
2 M5
3 Superpump
4 NO Explode
5 NANOX9
6 White Flood
All others are note noteworthy

[UltraTrunks]

i cant stress how much the mind power comes in play folks especially to all the new comers

ever took something that made your heart beat so fast made you felt like you're high feeling strong same time? WELL NOW...

haha sounds like an advertisement will anyways if your body gave you xtc and told you it was some oral steroids youll probably be pretty jacked up for your workout just my 2cents no beef no beef

[need_protein]

NO SHOTGUN all the way its my 1st N.O supp ive ever taken and its f***ing insane thing ive ever taken but im only 15, could this b bad

plz write ur opinions

[IronMan9201]

NO SHOTGUN all the way its my 1st N.O supp ive ever taken and its f***ing insane thing ive ever taken but im only 15, could this b bad

plz write ur opinions

shotgun is fine for you. i'm 15 in two months. just i recommend though only going on it for a month at a time and then cycling it off because it does have some ingredients like insulin mimics that could be dangerous if used too much. after you finish your jug i would go for some other pre workout with less crap like White Flood. but yea it's definately a great product. im taking its counterpart Synthesize right now.

[IronMan9201]

i cant stress how much the mind power comes in play folks especially to all the new comers

ever took something that made your heart beat so fast made you felt like you're high feeling strong same time? WELL NOW...

haha sounds like an advertisement will anyways if your body gave you xtc and told you it was some oral steroids youll probably be pretty jacked up for your workout just my 2cents no beef no beef

AND WHAT THE F**K? what the hell did he even say? and what the hell do you think he was TRYING to say lol

[InclineDBPresss]

Reviews of free samples:

Gakic - when I get free samples of this off BB.com I take them before some random workout and I always get an awesome pump and energy boost, I would never buy it for real though since the novelty would wear off and it just costs a ton.

White flood - havent tried a sample of this yet

Superpump 250 - this usually delivers a decent pump but not as noticable as Gakic

NO Explode - this made me way too hyper, couldn't even focus

[J1mb0]

I'm using presurge right now, it's definitely up there with some of my fav's like animal pump and superpump

[Dedicated37]

Fubar by Fusion Bodybuilding is working great for me.

[J.O.B.]

plasmacore best lol its the same bs as vapor, no shotgun is a poor pump u dont even no how many ppl i've gotn to switch from that

[egyption T]

nano vapor,and shock therapy

[twofocused]

Ok SP250 is great but, damn it makes me squirt.

[Pat369]

So far no-shotgun has given me the most energy and pump... Ive tried NO-xplode and I get used to the effects after two days.... pathetic. I get used to NO-shotgun after a few weeks and have to cycle off and the effects come back after resuming.
ive herd animal pump works well

[khergan]

The ones that really stand out for me are:

White Flood - Awesome energy, okay pump.

Presurge - Good sustained energy, unrivaled pump.

NO Shotgun - Great all around product, would recommend.


These are a 3 way tie for me, with maybe slightly more emphasis on Presurge because its a pill and easier to take.

[bman2380]

Fubar by Fusion Bodybuilding is working great for me.

I agree...it did make me train insane.

[HamMach1]

PreSurge.

The pump I get from this is unbelievable... so full, thick and bloated. Granted, I've only taken this and Superpump 250, I have a feeling I will not get this sort of pump from many, if any, other NO product. However, I only have 2 servings left of PreSurge until I give Shock Therapy a try. So we shall see.

[EDGECRUSHER2]

cellucor's m5!!!!!

[TheFugitive]

NO Shotgun, Bang and Black Powder.

[mcolmar]

just a quick question what is no-shotgun could someone explain where i can get it and who makes it

[Dedicated37]

just a quick question what is no-shotgun could someone explain where i can get it and who makes it

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vpx/no.html

[J1mb0]

PreSurge.

The pump I get from this is unbelievable... so full, thick and bloated. Granted, I've only taken this and Superpump 250, I have a feeling I will not get this sort of pump from many, if any, other NO product. However, I only have 2 servings left of PreSurge until I give Shock Therapy a try. So we shall see.

I have to agree with you, sp250 and presurge are amazing, but if there were 2 supplements that could compete with them, one would be ST and the other would be animal pump. ST's flavor in my opinion is god awful tho, almost made me vomit everytime (grape flavor).

[gabecamp]

DARK RAGE!!!!!! One scoop and holly ****!!!!!!!! SUPERDUMP250 SUCKS ASS.. Everyone's body is diff though.

[Derly]

For the price I'm really starting to enjoy my WF. I'm just getting around to finding the right dose. At fist I felt 1 scoop wasn't enough. Then I thought 2 might be too much, and I've tapered down to about 1 heaping scoop. (more servings) I usually feel tingles within under 20 mins, but I don't get the full effect from it until about 45-60 minutes later.

It gives me great energy, and really helps me focus on getting the workout done. The pumps seem to hit me about half way through the workout each time. Out of no where I just get this second wind, and am able to work a lot harder than I really expect. Like I'll be struggling with one set, then the very next set of the same exercise I'll go through it with ease, and continue my workout like that.

I've found that I like to mix this stuff with a bit of gatorade and water. One heaping scoop with about 8 oz's gatorade and 10 oz's water. Tastes great. Oh yea it's the red gatorade.

[naturalguy]

ive herd animal pump works well

Animal Pump works very well. It is different from any other pre workout formula in that you have the option of taking the stims or leaving them out (if you train late at night this is really handy or if you just want to take a break from the stims). You cannot do this with ANY other product.

[N0PainN0Gain]

super charge works for me

[JohnthanGorejus]

the one product that really gets me going when i dont even feel like working out.. is Gaspari's Superpump250.. teaming that with the right songs on your ipod.. will def get those reps up and underway!!!

[bmcnelly]

If you had to pick just ONE pre-workout product for energy and/or pump, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take pre-workout products, if you should take pre-workout products, or why some pre-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite pre-workout product and give your detailed reason.)

Gnc protein whey 1 scoop and gnc casein protein 1 scoop, with vitagro about half to 45 mintues before my workout does the trick for me, I think all the N.O Explode and pre workout stuff should be used sparingly, if you dont have the energy to workout you shouldnt workout. Not use a preworkout supp for energy. If you have your diet right though I think using for one for a pump or a little boost is perfectly fine. Lol and a funny story about BSN endorush. I guess your supposed to only drink like a 4th of the bottle every 6 hours or someting like that. My friend chugged one before a workout once. lol never seen a guy speed so bad.

[bmcnelly]

Animal Pump works very well. It is different from any other pre workout formula in that you have the option of taking the stims or leaving them out (if you train late at night this is really handy or if you just want to take a break from the stims). You cannot do this with ANY other product.

What is animal pump, pills or a powder? I have never heard of a preworkout without the stims thats exactly what im looking for. What is in it without taking the stims?

[wrestlercory]

What is animal pump, pills or a powder? I have never heard of a preworkout without the stims thats exactly what im looking for. What is in it without taking the stims?


I loved Animal Pump, and I can't understand why it isn't listed with the top 3.

I have tried NO-Xplode, NO Shotgun, Animal Pump, and I will be trying White Flood next.

Xplode= Great at first, but affects you less relatively quickly, and it has way too much crap in it, not to mention the smelly piss/farts and toll on stomach.

Shotgun= Great focus, i like the pumps, but the tast is ridiculous, and I can't help but feel sick on this stuff.

Animal Pump (which comes in pills, btw) = Best overal everything, and I didn't have any restroom problems with this one. so far, my favorite.

Heard great things about WF, so I'll let you know how that works.



of tried products.
Animal Pump = 9.5/10
Shotgun = 8/10
Xplode = 7.5/10

[Gabriel01]

Ok SP250 is great but, damn it makes me squirt.

Thanks for this disturbing image.

[Walzber]

I have only used naNO vapor and NO-explode. Of the two I definitely like naNO a loooot more! I am going to start a controlled labs stack in a week, and will be using White Flood as my new pre workout, we'll see!

[NaturalLoco]

DARK RAGE!!!!!! One scoop and holly ****!!!!!!!! SUPERDUMP250 SUCKS ASS.. Everyone's body is diff though.

I have only tried Superpump250 and N.O Xplode..
I needed two scoops of superpump to even feel anything.. SUCKSS!!
N.O was good from the very start..

I have also tried stacking Xplode with BSN Nitrix.. works great in combo if you have the money $$

[gabecamp]

NO explode and nitrix is an awesome stack. I have been and always will be a no explode fan. You do kinda get used to it though after awhile but, your body gets used to just about everything after awhile. You should always cycle off your pre-workout prod every 3 mo. for at least a month so that doesn't happen. When I cycle off is when I try diff. prods.. YEAH BUDDY!!!!!!!!

[wrestlercory]

ugh....

did i mention that shotgun tastes like (dirty stripper) assh*le?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

For the price I'm really starting to enjoy my WF. I'm just getting around to finding the right dose. At fist I felt 1 scoop wasn't enough. Then I thought 2 might be too much, and I've tapered down to about 1 heaping scoop. (more servings) I usually feel tingles within under 20 mins, but I don't get the full effect from it until about 45-60 minutes later.

It gives me great energy, and really helps me focus on getting the workout done. The pumps seem to hit me about half way through the workout each time. Out of no where I just get this second wind, and am able to work a lot harder than I really expect. Like I'll be struggling with one set, then the very next set of the same exercise I'll go through it with ease, and continue my workout like that.

I've found that I like to mix this stuff with a bit of gatorade and water. One heaping scoop with about 8 oz's gatorade and 10 oz's water. Tastes great. Oh yea it's the red gatorade.
awesome to hear your enjoying white flood :)

I loved Animal Pump, and I can't understand why it isn't listed with the top 3.

I have tried NO-Xplode, NO Shotgun, Animal Pump, and I will be trying White Flood next.

Xplode= Great at first, but affects you less relatively quickly, and it has way too much crap in it, not to mention the smelly piss/farts and toll on stomach.

Shotgun= Great focus, i like the pumps, but the tast is ridiculous, and I can't help but feel sick on this stuff.

Animal Pump (which comes in pills, btw) = Best overal everything, and I didn't have any restroom problems with this one. so far, my favorite.

Heard great things about WF, so I'll let you know how that works.



of tried products.
Animal Pump = 9.5/10
Shotgun = 8/10
Xplode = 7.5/10


I have only used naNO vapor and NO-explode. Of the two I definitely like naNO a loooot more! I am going to start a controlled labs stack in a week, and will be using White Flood as my new pre workout, we'll see!

looking forward to what you two think of white flood, please post up feedback when you get a chance to try it out

[CompetitiveGain]

white flood powder works great for me. Im on my second tub and i still feel the effects. The Flood pills didnt do much for me on the other hand.

superpump250 gives great pumps but takes a while to kick in and can leave you up for a while if you work out at night.

NO xplode has given everyone i have talked to the squirts and dies out over a period of time... At first it does give you a " cracked out" jitter feeling and huge pumps but you tolerate it quickly.

As of now white flood takes my vote but i'm still waiting to see if i build a high tolerance for it.

(2 of my workout buddies said they have)

[Peter LeDrew]

ugh....

did i mention that shotgun tastes like (dirty stripper) assh*le?

Many effective pre-workout ingredients naturally have a nasty tase which is why many taste bad that actually work... if you're looking for something effective without the taste and the ability to dose as needed with staggered dosing, etc... try PreSurge which is a capsule pre-workout.

[Nick1021]

Just purchased some White Flood for $36.99 will be trying it out today.

Should I try it on an empty stomach?

[SuperStudlyDave]

I have tried no explode, super pump 250, and Juggernaut and my money goes to the juggernaut. although i think there has been a change in the formula between my first and last jug of it.

[Derly]

Just purchased some White Flood for $36.99 will be trying it out today.

Should I try it on an empty stomach?
I wouldn't say empty but definately not on an a full stomach. And it says try one scoop at first. But I assessed my tolerance with 2 and tapered down to where I felt I got to most benefit without wasting.

[naturalguy]

I loved Animal Pump, and I can't understand why it isn't listed with the top 3.


Animal Pump (which comes in pills, btw) = Best overal everything, and I didn't have any restroom problems with this one. so far, my favorite.




of tried products.
Animal Pump = 9.5/10
Shotgun = 8/10
Xplode = 7.5/10

Animal Pump is the real deal, glad to hear you like it.

[lshadden5182]

Juggernaut by Infinite Labs


10/10

[CONTROLLED LABS]

white flood powder works great for me. Im on my second tub and i still feel the effects. The Flood pills didnt do much for me on the other hand.

awesome to hear. you tried the flood pills or the blood pills?


Just purchased some White Flood for $36.99 will be trying it out today.

Should I try it on an empty stomach?

nice price. take it with a small carb meal like a rice cake or granola bar

[JC-orginalbdass]

I think it's clear how I feel about this...

kYpSFkaweBU

[InclineVet]

A couple of scoops of Superpump 250 on my training days is working wonders for me right about now. Solid.

[peppernuts]

I notice a major difference between Super Pump 250 and NO Explode..

NO Explode ratings. out of 10

energey-focus (9) .....
Pumps-vascularity (9)
endurance (10)
Taste (Rasberry blue) (7.5)
mixability (9)

SUPER PUMP ratings

energey-focus(6) endurance (7)
Pumps-vascularity(5) Taste (GRAPE) (10)
mixability (4)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I think it's clear how I feel about this...

kYpSFkaweBU

love the song :D

[Derly]

I think it's clear how I feel about this...

kYpSFkaweBU
I just wanna know, was anyone around when you made that?

[JC-orginalbdass]

I just wanna know, was anyone around when you made that?

LOL, just my daughter, who was about 8 months old at the time.

[hillt3000]

I have tried a couple products. I am currently using NaNo Vapor, it works really well for me except that if I use it anytime past 3 or 4 pm I have trouble sleeping. Pretty good pumps, increase in strength and muslce endurance, energy but not that jittery too much red bull type of feeling, the cost is okay around $60 (I bought a couple while it was on a BOGO sale) which lasts me about 3 weeks ( I use 2 scoops pre-workout). I have tried NO explode, it works great for about 35-40 minutes and then tapers off, also it sends me rushing to the ****bowl, price is the same as NaNo Vapor but at GNC there are more often sales for NaNo Vapor (which is right now the product they will try and push on people). Gakic is a ****ing rip-off, I did try it once (worst $80 I ever spent) NO increases in any of my lifts, for all the good it did I might as well of stuffed it up my ass. The product I am probably going to go back to is Ultimate Nutrition Horsepower, it is cheaper than NaNo Vapor ($45-$50), really good pumps, increase in muscle strength and endurance, not any increase in mental focus and energy but I could always supplement it with a cup of coffee or something.

[DEMON X]

I've used: No-Xplode, Nitrix, Fast Twitich RTD, Fast Twitich, Altered State, NO Plasmacore, Super-Pump.

My Top 3:
1. N.O. Plasmacore, just like it says on the container "the hardest hitting N.O. Product." I use only one scoop before a workout, and when 15-20 minutes passes, man! it makes me feel like the JUGGERNAUT! no joke! When I use this stuff I notice using alot more weight, alot more energy, focus, stamina. Man this stuff works!

2. Super-Pump, I've used this a couple of times. It's a creeper! You start feeling amazing affects when you start lifting weights. When I use this product I feel really focused and I have a lot more weightlifting stamina. This is my girlfriends absolute favorite NO Product.

3. Fast Twitich, it's comparatively cheap compared to the other NO Products (about 30 bucks). It gets the job done for a good price. Besides getting more energy to fuel your workouts, it helps you recover faster in between sets.

Im not really a fan of pills but nitrix and altered state did the job too. But it just doesnt compare to how I feel when im NO PLasmacore.

[AronP24]

I think it's clear how I feel about this...

kYpSFkaweBU

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc199/aronp24/doc_holliday.jpg

Billy Clanton: Stephen Foster. "Oh, Susannah", "Camptown Races". Stephen stinking Foster.
Doc Holliday: Ah, yes. Well, this happens to be a nocturne.
Billy Clanton: A which?
Doc Holliday: You know, Frederic f*cking Chopin

[SpeedSixx]

I've tried Nano Vapor and NO Xplode. I would say that NO Xplode worked best for me, eventhough it's true your body adapts quite quickly to it. I increased the dosage to 2 scoops and problem solved, luckily didn't crash that hard afterwards.

Energy was high, pumps were good, andI did increase in strength A LOT!

With Nano Vapor, after about 3 weeks of use, I started getting a bit lightheaded and dizzy at the end of heavy workouts, so I decided to discontinue its use.

Energy and pumps were also great, and I did increase in strength as well.

Taste wise, I actually liked the NOX Fruit Punch much more than Muscletech?s Nano.

I am planning on trying the Controlled Labs (WF, GM, PW) stack, or Gaspari Nutrition (SP250 and Size On) stack, any thoughts guys?

[deozpester91]

id choose iron tech 2 METHYL 13-C pills gives you a extreme boost, when you think you cant do anymore and your about to quite BAM ur doin another set with more wieght.

[k-pick]

I have previously taken No-Xplode, Superpump 250, Horsepower, WTF Pumped

Alright first im a huge fan of No-Xplode it has always done wonders for me and i build up a tolerance to stuff quickly. When i stack it with nitrix u get awesome energy plus ridiculous pumps. And the taste isnt half bad and no stomach problems.

Superpump250 was ok for energy wise taste was not bad but sometimes it didnt mix very well:P id put it in second place.

Horsepower....wow alright this stuff is fu**ed. u get stupid tingly hot energy and weird stomach problems...u cant mix it to save your life and it tastes awful..

WTF Pumped lol a new zealand brand i bought because they outlawed No-Xplode at the moment(im sneaking some in:D) basically just dont buy this. terrible taste, cant mix it, no energy, no pump.

On a side note, might give White Flood a try since u guys keep ravin about it:P

[slowdubbin68]

got my controlled labs sample packs yesterday, tried out white flood, with purple wraath and green mag, and white flood did it for me, i was so pumped in the gym for the first time in a long time, prolly since football back in high school 4 years ago. and my mind was into it also, very calming, and no tingling like it said on the pack. im ordering some wf right now, just not sure whether i should get tablets or powder, anyone have any opinions ? or does it work the same ?

[conwaylucas]

After running out of BSN NO-Xplode, I ordered some Scivation VasoCharge since I had recently gotten some Xtend.

I tried it last night for the first time and man I can definitely tell the difference. I felt extremely pumped and got through a whole workout without zeroing out.

I still need to see if I build a tolerance to it quickly or not but right now I am quite impressed after one use.

[Adjusting]

I'm using presurge right now, it's definitely up there with some of my fav's like animal pump and superpump


The ones that really stand out for me are:

White Flood - Awesome energy, okay pump.

Presurge - Good sustained energy, unrivaled pump.

NO Shotgun - Great all around product, would recommend.


These are a 3 way tie for me, with maybe slightly more emphasis on Presurge because its a pill and easier to take.


PreSurge.

The pump I get from this is unbelievable... so full, thick and bloated. Granted, I've only taken this and Superpump 250, I have a feeling I will not get this sort of pump from many, if any, other NO product. However, I only have 2 servings left of PreSurge until I give Shock Therapy a try. So we shall see.


I have to agree with you, sp250 and presurge are amazing, but if there were 2 supplements that could compete with them, one would be ST and the other would be animal pump. ST's flavor in my opinion is god awful tho, almost made me vomit everytime (grape flavor).


Thanks for the support fella's!

[pokerdude069]

how much would a tub of pw, wf, and gm cost? isnt there a discount?? are those the right combos for one workout?? im think im gonna buy it but i want to use the right combo.

[AmericanMETAL13]

This one time I took animal pump and white flood at the same time...

I got road rage on the way to the gym and then once I arrived things got even worse. First I picked up a refrigerator with a bunch of post workout shakes in it and threw it a good ten feet at a reputable velocity toward the front desk. After that a few pretty big guys started to flank me so I got in a three point stance and lunged at one but missed and put my head through a concrete wall like a wrecking ball. Thank god that knocked me out because I could have easily turned the whole city block into a war zone by the time it all wore off.

Needless to say I won't be doing that again.

[SonofAtlas]

I've tried NO-Xplode, NaNO Vapor, and Shotgun.
NO Xplode is basically delicious caffeine. It worked pretty well though, but I built up a tolerance quick, and it wasn't long before I was taking triple scoops.

NaNO Vapor gave better pumps than NO Xplode, but I didn't have as much energy on it. Then again, I also didn't crash hardcore after working out.

Shotgun... was terrible. I've tried v2 and v3, both to the same result. They pretty much raped my stomach, and not in a good way. I actually made it to the gym after taking v3, but about 15 minutes into my workout I was feeling so nauseous that I had to stop.

Conclusion: If you are caffeine sensitive (as in you don't have a high tolerance), go for the NO Xplode. If you aren't as sensitive, go for the NaNO vapor.

Also, I'm still in the process of choosing my next supp. I'm trying to decide between Animal Pump and Hemadraulix. Any opinions?

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[CONTROLLED LABS]

Heard great things about WF, so I'll let you know how that works.






I have only used naNO vapor and NO-explode. Of the two I definitely like naNO a loooot more! I am going to start a controlled labs stack in a week, and will be using White Flood as my new pre workout, we'll see!
looking forward to your feedback

got my controlled labs sample packs yesterday, tried out white flood, with purple wraath and green mag, and white flood did it for me, i was so pumped in the gym for the first time in a long time, prolly since football back in high school 4 years ago. and my mind was into it also, very calming, and no tingling like it said on the pack. im ordering some wf right now, just not sure whether i should get tablets or powder, anyone have any opinions ? or does it work the same ?
awesome to hear. they are both equal in formula. the tablets take a bit more time to start working, but they last longer in duration. the powder hits faster but also dissipates faster.

how much would a tub of pw, wf, and gm cost? isnt there a discount?? are those the right combos for one workout?? im think im gonna buy it but i want to use the right combo.
you can get discounted stacks on our product page on bb.com, check the link in my signature below.

This one time I took animal pump and white flood at the same time...

I got road rage on the way to the gym and then once I arrived things got even worse. First I picked up a refrigerator with a bunch of post workout shakes in it and threw it a good ten feet at a reputable velocity toward the front desk. After that a few pretty big guys started to flank me so I got in a three point stance and lunged at one but missed and put my head through a concrete wall like a wrecking ball. Thank god that knocked me out because I could have easily turned the whole city block into a war zone by the time it all wore off.

Needless to say I won't be doing that again.

true story :D

[simpleguy]

This one time I took animal pump and white flood at the same time...

I got road rage on the way to the gym and then once I arrived things got even worse. First I picked up a refrigerator with a bunch of post workout shakes in it and threw it a good ten feet at a reputable velocity toward the front desk. After that a few pretty big guys started to flank me so I got in a three point stance and lunged at one but missed and put my head through a concrete wall like a wrecking ball. Thank god that knocked me out because I could have easily turned the whole city block into a war zone by the time it all wore off.

Needless to say I won't be doing that again.


first time I heard of 'road rage' haha... that ain't right bro, I've taken big doses of everything, but it doesn't make you go crazy

[Colossal Spoons]

MRI's Black Powder is my fav. Followed by Universal's Animal Pump

[V-Robb]

Since I started using it, I wouldn't even consider working out without a nice schluck of Gaspari SuperPump 250 before hitting the weights. I think it's the bomb! Totally gets me up, psyched, and pumped - ready for action! YMMV...

[Derly]

first time I heard of 'road rage' haha... that ain't right bro, I've taken big doses of everything, but it doesn't make you go crazy
Road Rage is simply getting pissed while you're driving.

I've had simple energy drinks to that to me before. I could easily see taking an NO product and being on the wrong road too long causing road rage.

[caffeinecowboy]

The best pre-workout/pump products I have taken are:

1.Gaspari Superpump250

2.VPX NO Shotgun

3.SAN Fierce