Best Overall Pre-Workout Energy/Pump Supplement?

[Guardian]

I have used different supplements while training the last 10 months or so and I have to say without a doubt that NO shotgun v3 (pre workout) is in my opinion the best. It contains everything you need plus about 20 grams of protein, the taste is good (black cherry). I did not believe the hype about this product but when trying it I was amazed. After 2 and a half hours working out hard I am usually exhausted but with this I felt like I had just begun. I havent even stacked it with the NO synthesize yet and still seeing great results. Also may I point out is aspartame free which is another good thing as this ingredient used in so many products is terrible for the human body which tests have shown that it can trigger cancer.
Anyway product was amazing. As long as you allready work out hard in the gym you will see with your first dose an increase in strenth reps and mental focus. Keep it up everybody and continue to get ripped!!!!! Its not who gets there the fastest as long as you get there!!!!!!! im out!!

I just ordered this product the ingredient panel looks amazing for the money!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Today is only my 2nd day on WF and no joke i had veins pumping thru my arms that i've never seen before and my forearms were so tight i felt like popeye...crazy, 2nd day already getting results.

that does sound like white flood, nice work :)

[JCLV2]

Pic Me Up by D&E!!!! I feel like I could out run the ****ing Flash.

[takingoffstrong]

Has anyone had any good success with cold fusion. I am looking at getting some and i was wondering if it is any good?

[seabee_bu_marsh]

I've tried SP250, Vapor, and muscle asylum's ****....by far the best is "SUPER CHARGE" that stuff works well with me.

[greeko]

I'm almost done with the small tub of White Flood, and am pretty impressed. I'm combining it with Storm, and it seems to be working well. I seem to be really vascular all the time. Finishes a close second though, to one you don't hear enough about, and that's Ragnarok. I like that you don't have to combine 2 products with that, and my skin feels like it's going to explode. I've made really nice strength gains with White Flood and Ragnarok, I highly recommend both.

[Seven_McNuggets]

Today was the first time I tried WF stacked with SizeOn. WF 15 mins before workout, and SizeOn during workout.. man it was intense. Felt like I could go on forever. Green MAG is also great too, hard to make a decision between the two.

[1down5up]

I have only recently started back at the gym and only tried one pre workout supp, NaNo Vapor. Blue ras. I felt strong and I had a good focus/pump. I noticed a big diff from no preworkout but i cant say its the best with no other comparison. I am def. sold on trying Controlled labs. I will stack Green w/ White and see what the results are and let ya know how NaNo and White compare. I have been off Nano and any other supp (other than protien) for 3 weeks now. Wish me luck!!!

How did this stuff taste?

[Gator87]

Has anyone had any good success with cold fusion. I am looking at getting some and i was wondering if it is any good?

I tried a sample and it was AWFUL tasting, which would be OK if it worked well, however the taste lingered in my mouth so long that I had to hold back so as not to vomit. Aside from that, I didn't notice anything that I didn't experience with Animal Pump or Shock Therapy.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm almost done with the small tub of White Flood, and am pretty impressed. I'm combining it with Storm, and it seems to be working well. I seem to be really vascular all the time. Finishes a close second though, to one you don't hear enough about, and that's Ragnarok. I like that you don't have to combine 2 products with that, and my skin feels like it's going to explode. I've made really nice strength gains with White Flood and Ragnarok, I highly recommend both.

you should try it with green magnitude, you will love the combo

[jjdailey1987]

i like to use pro performances luecine, creatine, caffeine, stack i will also take beta alanine and muscle synergy, couldnt ask for a better workout.

[lefty_thrower]

Alright, first, I am new to this site, so when I say something stupid, take it easy.
Now that that is out of the way...I 28 years old, 5'-10", 188, 22%bf. I am a former college athlete and wanting to get back in shape. I have never been big, from highschool all through college, my frame just isn't built for it I guess. I worked out a lot back then, which you can imagine with sports and all, but just didn't ever really get big. I was pretty toned and all. With that being said, getting a lot bigger isn't what I am trying to do, I just want to really tone up and get rid of this body fat around my gut. I do want to get bigger and gain a good bit of strenth back, but I also know that I'm not going to get huge, so again, not looking for huge gains in that area. Now, my question is, what would you all recommend I take? I have done a good bit of research and read a lot of reviews. From what I can see, all of the following are great products; NO Shotgun, NaNO Vapor, White Flood, SuperComp 250, NO Xplode, NOX3, 17-Bol w/M1-Bol, Gear Cycle w/Blitz Cycle, NIOX w/Lipo 6, Animal Pump, RPN Havoc, and Anabolic Xtreme Mass Fx. Now, you can see why I'm asking your opinions. There are so many to choose from that seem to have great reviews. I work out usually 4 days a weeks. My program varies a little, but usually I use one day for a set. Chest/Bi's. Back/Tri's. Shoulders. Legs. I am taking a whey protein now after working out, so with that, give me what you guys think.

[avera01]

wrong section...

All those supplements are crap. Get a clean diet in order, weight train, and a strict cardio regimen.

No fast food,or processed crap, high protein low carb good fats. spread out 6 times a day.

Do a search on this forum for cutting diets.

out.

[risefromruin]

I like N.O. Explode and Nano Vapor when I take a pre-workout sup.
I dont like to take them every workout, and I also like to switch them up

[takingoffstrong]

i am buying some white flood, but i want to stack it with something, what are the best combinations? I was thinking green mag or purple wraath, but i dont know which is better. Controlled Labs?

[Rhynosaurus]

Alright, first, I am new to this site, so when I say something stupid, take it easy.
Now that that is out of the way...I 28 years old, 5'-10", 188, 22%bf. I am a former college athlete and wanting to get back in shape. I have never been big, from highschool all through college, my frame just isn't built for it I guess. I worked out a lot back then, which you can imagine with sports and all, but just didn't ever really get big. I was pretty toned and all. With that being said, getting a lot bigger isn't what I am trying to do, I just want to really tone up and get rid of this body fat around my gut. I do want to get bigger and gain a good bit of strenth back, but I also know that I'm not going to get huge, so again, not looking for huge gains in that area. Now, my question is, what would you all recommend I take? I have done a good bit of research and read a lot of reviews. From what I can see, all of the following are great products; NO Shotgun, NaNO Vapor, White Flood, SuperComp 250, NO Xplode, NOX3, 17-Bol w/M1-Bol, Gear Cycle w/Blitz Cycle, NIOX w/Lipo 6, Animal Pump, RPN Havoc, and Anabolic Xtreme Mass Fx. Now, you can see why I'm asking your opinions. There are so many to choose from that seem to have great reviews. I work out usually 4 days a weeks. My program varies a little, but usually I use one day for a set. Chest/Bi's. Back/Tri's. Shoulders. Legs. I am taking a whey protein now after working out, so with that, give me what you guys think.

If you are just getting (back) into working out, you just need the basics.
Fish oil, a good multi vitamin, maybe some creatine monohydrate, plenty of food, and some whey protein to make up any protein deficiency in your diet.
Get as much out of the basics as you possibly can.

[Rhynosaurus]

i am buying some white flood, but i want to stack it with something, what are the best combinations? I was thinking green mag or purple wraath, but i dont know which is better. Controlled Labs?

Do you already have a creatine? If not, then go with the Green Mag. If you do, then hit up PW.

[fischetti]

Best pre and post workout supplements from my research and experiences if money is not a concern is pre NO SHOTGUN and post is SIZE ON.:)

[fischetti]

Best pre and post workout supplements from my research and experiences if money is not a concern is pre NO SHOTGUN and post is SIZE ON :)

If money is a concern, best is pre WHITE FLOOD and post or pre wth white flood GREEN MAG.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i am buying some white flood, but i want to stack it with something, what are the best combinations? I was thinking green mag or purple wraath, but i dont know which is better. Controlled Labs?


Do you already have a creatine? If not, then go with the Green Mag. If you do, then hit up PW.
exactly, I echo these sentiments :)

If money is a concern, best is pre WHITE FLOOD and post or pre wth white flood GREEN MAG.

absolutely :)

[donnycool]

I'd have to say N.O. xplode def wears out after a short while. it did give the pump and boost in energy at first but then it kinda lost its effect. I've been jumping around a little with black powder and superpump250. I seem to like those at this moment. What is the deal with white flood i havn't even heard of it and everyone seems to like it. I guess that's going to be my next purchase

[BLKMAMBA24]

So far ive taken 3 superpumps, works great but i think i need a change. my friends say take NO expolde but im interested in taking naNO vapor. wut should i do?

[Rhynosaurus]

I'd have to say N.O. xplode def wears out after a short while. it did give the pump and boost in energy at first but then it kinda lost its effect. I've been jumping around a little with black powder and superpump250. I seem to like those at this moment. What is the deal with white flood i havn't even heard of it and everyone seems to like it. I guess that's going to be my next purchase

When I tried NO Xp, I kept having to up the dosage. Made the tub run out pretty quickly. When I gave WF a whirl, I didnt feel that I needed to bump up to more and more scoops. And it seemed that the last few sessions with WF were just as good as the first (Good lord, I sound like a real fanboy here. But I really did feel that way).




So far ive taken 3 superpumps, works great but i think i need a change. my friends say take NO expolde but im interested in taking naNO vapor. wut should i do?

Nano was literally the worst NO product I tried. Some people seem to like it, but I absolutely hated it. Felt tired in the gym about half way thru my workout and nauseous on the way home. I ended up only using it a few times and ended up throwing it away when I recently moved.
I would suggest trying either White Flood or Shock Therapy (both my fav's but I give WF a slight edge).

[8-Hype]

Is Scivation's Xtend (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/xtend.html) a good pre-workout supplement? PW, WF and Green Mag all seem to have restrictions with diabetics. Although I don't have diabates, it was sort of common in my family. So I'm kind of scared using those products. Marc Lobliner and Derek Charlebois (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/lobliner35.htm) really recommend Xtend for pre- and intra-workout. Is it a good pre-workout supplement, and are there any better besides the ones I mentioned?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

When I tried NO Xp, I kept having to up the dosage. Made the tub run out pretty quickly. When I gave WF a whirl, I didnt feel that I needed to bump up to more and more scoops. And it seemed that the last few sessions with WF were just as good as the first (Good lord, I sound like a real fanboy here. But I really did feel that way).





Nano was literally the worst NO product I tried. Some people seem to like it, but I absolutely hated it. Felt tired in the gym about half way thru my workout and nauseous on the way home. I ended up only using it a few times and ended up throwing it away when I recently moved.
I would suggest trying either White Flood or Shock Therapy (both my fav's but I give WF a slight edge).
there is a reason you are a white flood fanboy: it works well and its a great value

Is Scivation's Xtend (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/xtend.html) a good pre-workout supplement? PW, WF and Green Mag all seem to have restrictions with diabetics. Although I don't have diabates, it was sort of common in my family. So I'm kind of scared using those products. Marc Lobliner and Derek Charlebois (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/lobliner35.htm) really recommend Xtend for pre- and intra-workout. Is it a good pre-workout supplement?

our products arent restrictive to diabetics, we simply put the warning on every product because its a complicated disease so it must be discussed with a doctor first

[simpleguy]

I like N.O. Explode and Nano Vapor when I take a pre-workout sup.
I dont like to take them every workout, and I also like to switch them up

anyone else doing this? I was wondering, since most of us become tolerant to pre w/o supps...

[janjo]

Can I take NanoVapor for pre-workout with Anabolic Halo for post-workout and a creatine supplement like SizeOn as well, or is this too much?

[simpleguy]

Can I take NanoVapor for pre-workout with Anabolic Halo for post-workout and a creatine supplement like SizeOn as well, or is this too much?

if anything you'll just piss out the extra creatine ... maybe take half a serving of SO, or use something else

[Zawot]

I have tried White Flood, Arnge Krush, and No Explode and I have to say my favorite for concentration would be White flood, and for prologned use without a tolerance would have to be Arnge krush which in my opinion tastes the best. But for those of you looking for something new that definately gets the job done I would recommend Arnge Krush.

[ridemx445]

Question guys. I read almost every page of this thread, its seems that White Flood has won over many of you. And I ask; I have taken Purple Wraath before and got a weird itchy feeling from it all over my arms. Any answers from this? could White Flood possibly do the same thing to me?

I didnt feel sick or anything from the stuff, I just thought my body was maybe rejecting the wraath and it caused some sort of irritation? I took the stuff for a week but then got tired of this effect and backed off it. (still sits in pantry)

so could WF do the same thing? or are they opposites?

Any insight I would appreciate.

ps. I am 6'0, 215lbs.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have tried White Flood, Arnge Krush, and No Explode and I have to say my favorite for concentration would be White flood, and for prologned use without a tolerance would have to be Arnge krush which in my opinion tastes the best. But for those of you looking for something new that definately gets the job done I would recommend Arnge Krush.
awesome to hear :)

Question guys. I read almost every page of this thread, its seems that White Flood has won over many of you. And I ask; I have taken Purple Wraath before and got a weird itchy feeling from it all over my arms. Any answers from this? could White Flood possibly do the same thing to me?

I didnt feel sick or anything from the stuff, I just thought my body was maybe rejecting the wraath and it caused some sort of irritation? I took the stuff for a week but then got tired of this effect and backed off it. (still sits in pantry)

so could WF do the same thing? or are they opposites?

Any insight I would appreciate.

ps. I am 6'0, 215lbs.

yes, they will both cause tingles (says so right on the label), beta alanine causes it and its normal, many actually enjoy the feeling :)

[ridemx445]

WoW. Thanks for response. My Vag may have been flaring or somethin, but I had never felt anything like it so I thought maybe it was a side effect. Reading labels can help I guess -shakes head-. Thanks again for response, I may try another round.



445

[entelechy]

a banana

[steverin06]

I've only taken WF, been using it for a couple of weeks. Felt like complete crap during my workouts the first 3 or 4 times. Drank more water and ate something with it and I definately feel more energized. I can take it after a long/crappy day and still feel like working out hard for over an hour. I stack it with green mag 30 min before I workout, and I'm making great gains, but not feeling any additional pump. I also don't get how people say they feel more focused, I think that's funny...

I thought people were joking about the tingly feeling - I feel it all over my arms, hands, fingers, and my face. That's when I know I'm ready to go. Overall its a good product.

[pportera]

NanoVapor by far. If you can handle it its the best out there. Just look at whats in it. EVERTHING!!

[mafty]

NanoVapor by far. If you can handle it its the best out there. Just look at whats in it. EVERTHING!!

seriously? i couldnt make it through a workout on this stuff, i had firey ****s because of it, definatly dont recommend vapour. not to mention i felt zero energy, all i felt was my stomach urching, and then orange poo coming out 30 minutes after drinking it.

[mavmech13]

seriously? i couldnt make it through a workout on this stuff, i had firey ****s because of it, definatly dont recommend vapour. not to mention i felt zero energy, all i felt was my stomach urching, and then orange poo coming out 30 minutes after drinking it.

Yeah I'm kinda with you on this one. I gave it a shot a few times and I actually had to end my workout early cuz I felt horrible just couldn't keep going. Right now I'm using Animal Pump and I love it I haven't seen any side effects as of yet and I have yet to feel a better pump.

Peace

[fischetti]

NanoVapor by far. If you can handle it its the best out there. Just look at whats in it. EVERTHING!!

true but expensive

[JPunisher]

white flood was a waste of money for me. ive had better workouts with NO Xplode and SP250

[khajja]

i've tried shock therapy, NO Xplode, and white flood-in that order. i thought shock therapy was the greatest. then i got NO Xplode and that became my new favorite. started on white flood 2 weeks ago and it doesn't really do much for me. using the 2 scoops (as label says) and don't notice much. 1 scoop of NO Xplode had greater effect IMO. How many scoops do you otehr WF users do?

[furyhockey]

somebody clarify that controlled labs is NOT getting sued.... some douche bag at GNC told my buddy there getting sued just like BSN did for there products I couldnt tell if he wanted his commission for his ****ty pro performance products or if he was telling the truth.

[Ironite]

simply a cup of coffee works for me...

[redsman]

i been switching between NO-XPLODE and Super Pump 250....seems like i get more focus and pump with SP250!

That really surprises me, I could not wait to finish my superpump and go back to the NO Xplode. SP doesn't mix well, taste as good or give me the pump that NO Xplode does. Every body is different! I love the NO Xplode.

I also took Atro Phex and Animal Cuts when I was cycling off NOX and SP. AtroPhex was much better than Animal Cuts. I guess I am diggin the BSN products.

[ChrisHarrington]

I'm currently taking the WF/GM/PW stack and wanted to know if anyone knows if I should take White Flood on my non-workout days. I haven't been doing it, but I have been taking the Green Mag on my days off.

[IronMan9201]

i already tried black powder and vapor n liked both. vapor gave me great focus way more than black, decent pump and energy, and pretty bad taste. black powder gave me sustained energy, decent focus, and great pumps, but tasted like peptobismol. out of those two vapor was best except that maybe like 1/3 of the time there would be a crash. anyway i wanna try something new and better and these all seem to have alot of good reviews. so if moneys not an issue either.... between n.o shotgun v3, supperpump 250, or white flood. which is best, most intense, best pumps, focus, ect. also any experiences with Juggernaut or Ragnarok? opinions, and if uve tried one or more plz rate experiences like pump 8/10 energy 6/10 ect.

[AMillane7]

I'm currently taking the WF/GM/PW stack and wanted to know if anyone knows if I should take White Flood on my non-workout days. I haven't been doing it, but I have been taking the Green Mag on my days off.

dont take either..but if you want the creatine just buy some creatine mono for your offdays to save money

[CONTROLLED LABS]

somebody clarify that controlled labs is NOT getting sued.... some douche bag at GNC told my buddy there getting sued just like BSN did for there products I couldnt tell if he wanted his commission for his ****ty pro performance products or if he was telling the truth.
not at all, but we would be very interested if you could give us the number of the store and employees name as the false info he is spreading is illegal.

I'm currently taking the WF/GM/PW stack and wanted to know if anyone knows if I should take White Flood on my non-workout days. I haven't been doing it, but I have been taking the Green Mag on my days off.

no need for white flood on non workout days.

[Blacksterbmw]

Yoy can't beat a half bottle of BSN's endo rush, really gets you going

[Pizzalamp]

i tried shotgun last year and loved it

now i am using white flood and its excellent

[ridemx445]

so I tried purple wraath again. I guess I am not the "tingle" kind of guy. I didnt like the feeling and pumps werent that good. Nothing against product, just not for me.

[AlwaysTryin]

so I tried purple wraath again. I guess I am not the "tingle" kind of guy. I didnt like the feeling and pumps werent that good. Nothing against product, just not for me.


I agree :( it does nothing for me

[headinahole]

so I tried purple wraath again. I guess I am not the "tingle" kind of guy. I didnt like the feeling and pumps werent that good. Nothing against product, just not for me.


I agree :( it does nothing for me

1. Purple Wraath is NOT A PRE-WORKOUT SUPPLEMENT!!!
2. Do you have any left?
3. If so... I'll pm you my address.

[ridemx445]

1. Purple Wraath is NOT A PRE-WORKOUT SUPPLEMENT!!!
2. Do you have any left?
3. If so... I'll pm you my address.

I understand its not a prework out. Just following up on my comments I made earlier about the beta-alenine ingredient. I still have a full jug of it, but sorry, my roommates got his dibs on it already.

[wamade89]

can anyone tell me any info about rpm? or anabolic pump? recently purchased both n bin on it using them for about a week, noticing incredible strength n pump... any info would be appreciated.

[SirRicky]

the ones i've tried and are worth mentioning about are:
1. superpump 250 - great overall
2. no xplode - WAS good for awhile until my tolerant level became high
3. no shotgun - took a few times probably better than xplode pump. tasted so BAD i gave that tub away to my friend.

looking forward in trying CL white flood & green mag. those two will be my next pre-workout supp. =]

[AliEd786]

I just tried white flood for the first time today..took 2 scoops even though it said to take half a scoop to see your tolerance level..but I figured since I have already taken supplements like No Shotgun, Shock Therapy, No Explode, that I didn't need to check my tolerance level and went for 2 scoops...
then after that for the next 20 minutes or so I felt like my body was burning or something! But that went away after I drank tons of water at the gym..and the workout went great...I think the burning thing might have been because I'm kinda sick for past 2 days..?

Also, how do you guys recommend taking White Flood ? 30 minutes before on empty stomach like all of them or does it matter ?

Thanks!!

[RobMusta]

i personally like RPM...that stuff is amazing, no jitters ever and its like all natural energy. first time i took it i was pushing atleast 10 more lbs on all my lifts its great stuff, everyone should look into it for sure.

[bull.dogz]

looking forward in trying CL white flood & green mag. those two will be my next pre-workout supp. =]

Cool, keep us posted on how you like it.




I just tried white flood for the first time today..took 2 scoops even though it said to take half a scoop to see your tolerance level..but I figured since I have already taken supplements like No Shotgun, Shock Therapy, No Explode, that I didn't need to check my tolerance level and went for 2 scoops...
then after that for the next 20 minutes or so I felt like my body was burning or something! But that went away after I drank tons of water at the gym..and the workout went great...I think the burning thing might have been because I'm kinda sick for past 2 days..?

Also, how do you guys recommend taking White Flood ? 30 minutes before on empty stomach like all of them or does it matter ?

Thanks!!

You can take it on an empty stomach but if it bothers you than eat a granola bar or some rice cakes before you take it.

[tmertz]

I choose NaNoX9

[ponshoe]

Im getting good results from Myogenix Hypershock with the stim... also Labrada SuperCharge is one of my tops.

[IronMan9201]

Vapor's pretty good. GREAT focus average everything else.anyone try the n.o. shotgun v3 / n.o. sythesize stack? reviews?

[inTIModator]

Vapor's pretty good. GREAT focus average everything else.anyone try the n.o. shotgun v3 / n.o. sythesize stack? reviews?

i am currently using the v3/synthesize stack. So far steady increase in strength, and really intense workouts. I use the synthesize half dose durning workout and half after. Seem to be working bench up from 205 to 225 and i'm on my second week. Just hope the pumps last for the whole tub.

[tracingthescars]

I've been on No-Xplode before and seen good results there, but agree with others about the tolerance build up. NO-Shotgun seems to give a pretty good pump, not to mention the "tingly" feeling, which I noticed was absent from No-Xplode.

But after looking over this whole thread, and the overwhelming amount of positive feedback given by those who tried Green Mag and White Flood I decided to give CL's GM/WF stack a try. I'm trusting you guys here! I had never really heard much about Controlled Labs and their products before the thread, normally making my purchases off of the rankings from BB's store.

Oh and props to the CL rep for doing such a great job promoting and responding to replies in this thread. A great way to promote the product and get others interested if you ask me! Not to mention BB's prices with the stack are some of the best on the net I could find in comparison to other major sites!

I've ordered up the GM/WF stack and will be reporting back on this thread in a couple weeks after getting a good feel for the products!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

now i am using white flood and its excellent
awesome, thanks for your feedback :)





looking forward in trying CL white flood & green mag. those two will be my next pre-workout supp. =]
that is an awesome and popular stack, looking forward to your feedback :)

I just tried white flood for the first time today..took 2 scoops even though it said to take half a scoop to see your tolerance level..but I figured since I have already taken supplements like No Shotgun, Shock Therapy, No Explode, that I didn't need to check my tolerance level and went for 2 scoops...
then after that for the next 20 minutes or so I felt like my body was burning or something! But that went away after I drank tons of water at the gym..and the workout went great...I think the burning thing might have been because I'm kinda sick for past 2 days..?

Also, how do you guys recommend taking White Flood ? 30 minutes before on empty stomach like all of them or does it matter ?

Thanks!!that is the beta alanine and is normal (as it says on the label). start lower and ramp up as needed.


I've been on No-Xplode before and seen good results there, but agree with others about the tolerance build up. NO-Shotgun seems to give a pretty good pump, not to mention the "tingly" feeling, which I noticed was absent from No-Xplode.

But after looking over this whole thread, and the overwhelming amount of positive feedback given by those who tried Green Mag and White Flood I decided to give CL's GM/WF stack a try. I'm trusting you guys here! I had never really heard much about Controlled Labs and their products before the thread, normally making my purchases off of the rankings from BB's store.

Oh and props to the CL rep for doing such a great job promoting and responding to replies in this thread. A great way to promote the product and get others interested if you ask me! Not to mention BB's prices with the stack are some of the best on the net I could find in comparison to other major sites!

I've ordered up the GM/WF stack and will be reporting back on this thread in a couple weeks after getting a good feel for the products!

wow, thanks for the kind words and giving our products a shot, I doubt they will let you down. either way, we are here for questions, feedback and customer service. :)

[yesaccasey]

i am bouncing all over the gym when i take white flood (pre workout) and purple wraath(mid workout)

[tracingthescars]

so what kind of supplement is purple wrath? Is it something fairly essential in the Controlled labs stack? You guys notice a considerable difference using it? (say you used it without mag or white flood) would you still feel a difference?

[andy_b22]

I have tried NO Shotgun, NaNO Vapor, White Flood, SuperPump 250, NO Xplode, Shock Therapy, and Arnge Krush and some have worked better than others but none of those have even been close to effectiveness of Full Blown Extreme mixed with EXT from Max Muscle. It's great stuff!

[AMillane7]

so what kind of supplement is purple wrath? Is it something fairly essential in the Controlled labs stack? You guys notice a considerable difference using it? (say you used it without mag or white flood) would you still feel a difference?

EAA product, for me it increased endurance and overall feel of workout. not a stim or creatine product

will definitely be a staple of my supps once i get money :D

[tracingthescars]

EAA product, for me it increased endurance and overall feel of workout. not a stim or creatine product

will definitely be a staple of my supps once i get money :D

Thanks repped. Answered my question. And with you about the money issue. It'll have to be a future investment :D

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i am bouncing all over the gym when i take white flood (pre workout) and purple wraath(mid workout)
awesome, just dont bump your head :D

so what kind of supplement is purple wrath? Is it something fairly essential in the Controlled labs stack? You guys notice a considerable difference using it? (say you used it without mag or white flood) would you still feel a difference?

its an essential amino acid complex and endurance product. it will help with recovery and endurance :)

[AliEd786]

After having few jitters on the first day...I'm getting used to White Flood and I really like it!

[EEytonJones]

GOOD THREAD http://nucleardesigns.net/img/122/o08z0930ehge/icon7.gif

lol @ you posting this in every thread............

[IronMan9201]

anyone tried the new CL white flood tablets?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

After having few jitters on the first day...I'm getting used to White Flood and I really like it!
awesome, glad you are enjoying white flood :)

anyone tried the new CL white flood tablets?

they will start shipping towards the end of this week :)

[andrewrigato44]

1 scoop of nano vapor mixed with 1 scoop of no-explode talk about geeked the fuk up man haha that **** is off the chain

[TheDesertFox]

I wish I could say VPX NO Shotgun but nope. I bought a tub a while back and the first 3 times I used it it worked pretty awesome. I was ripping that gym up, after that though...I literally got no effect from it. I even used 2 scoops and nothing, then 3 scoops and it worked for me but the taste was so damn sweet. It felt like an army of sugar had raped my mouth. Maybe this product worked for many other people but not for me..I regret not buying the NO Xplode or SP 250 now.

[Valenzuelatech]

ive gone through 4 tubs of NO-XPLODE using a little over 1 scoop each time. at first it worked very well but after 3 weeks on it i'd feel it less and less. so why buy 3 more freakin tubs after? simple: i was afraid to try anything different since it is supposedly "the best musclebuilding product in the world" eh bb.com? na.. not blaming anyone for excelent marketing campains.
NO-XPLODE 7/10

after doing some research about ingredients i bought a tub of Universal's Shock Therapy and got Great results from it! focus, intensity and an incredible jolt 4 minutes after taking the stuff
SHOCK THERAPY 9/10

Im cycling off shock therapy while waiting for my order of White Flood to come in. 14 days international shipping...

While im cycling off the stimulants my pre workout drink is the MHP TRAC i got for free. ...its kind of like really expensive orange juice
TRAC 5/10

will post my review of White Flood 10 days after i start using it
ps. this is my first post after 3 years of lurking so do forgive my jargon free nooblike verbatim

[fischetti]

1 scoop of nano vapor mixed with 1 scoop of no-explode talk about geeked the fuk up man haha that **** is off the chain

Intersting;)

[fischetti]

1 scoop of nano vapor mixed with 1 scoop of no-explode talk about geeked the fuk up man haha that **** is off the chain

Maybe a dash of super pump, a dash of vapor,a dash no xplode,a dash of white flood,Thier you have the ultimate pre pump energy Ignitor in the galaxy including the black holes LOL;)

[Brace1]

i would have to say nano vapor and a can of red bull

[simpleguy]

i would have to say nano vapor and a can of red bull

yeah, as if nano vapor wouldn't already have too much caffeine in it

[Mr._X]

ive gone through 4 tubs of NO-XPLODE using a little over 1 scoop each time. at first it worked very well but after 3 weeks on it i'd feel it less and less. so why buy 3 more freakin tubs after? simple: i was afraid to try anything different since it is supposedly "the best musclebuilding product in the world" eh bb.com? na.. not blaming anyone for excelent marketing campains.
NO-XPLODE 7/10

after doing some research about ingredients i bought a tub of Universal's Shock Therapy and got Great results from it! focus, intensity and an incredible jolt 4 minutes after taking the stuff
SHOCK THERAPY 9/10

Im cycling off shock therapy while waiting for my order of White Flood to come in. 14 days international shipping...

While im cycling off the stimulants my pre workout drink is the MHP TRAC i got for free. ...its kind of like really expensive orange juice
TRAC 5/10

will post my review of White Flood 10 days after i start using it
ps. this is my first post after 3 years of lurking so do forgive my jargon free nooblike verbatim

I love shock therapy. You should check out my "Big Picture" stack log in the sponsored logs section bro. And holy ****, you're only 20??? (no homo) nice physique jesus

[sizeNstrength]

I'm going to go ahead and suggest Labrada's Super Charge xtreme. I have been using it the past 2 weeks and have amazing pumps. I even get pumps in my legs which is a first. The best part is there is absolutely zero crash from it. I've tried NO-XPLODE, CMI Overload, and superpump250.

Cheers

[simpleguy]

I've used UN's Shock Therapy and Animal Pump in the past with pretty good results...

so about 4 weeks ago I got me some N.O.explode, guess I had to try it... started with 1 scoop and worked my way up to 2 scoops... first 2 weeks or so were good, felt focused and got a good pump almost every workout... then by the 3rd week it started to fade off... now after 4 weeks I don't feel anything from it... actually even though I still have a bit left, I will stop using it for a while...

strength gains were... decent
taste was pretty good (lemonade), though I don't usually care about that
energy as I said was great in the beginning, but it's more like a caffeine rush


overall I'd say it is good stuff if you never tried it, but you def build a tolerance pretty fast... might try SP250 in the future, but right now I'm gonna take a break from pre w/o supps, I don't like to stay on them year round...

[Tolerance]

SuperPump250



/thread

[Liam_Davies]

I have tried

Reflex Tri Matrix (6/10)
BSN No Xplode (7/10)
Gaspari Superpump (9.5/10)
Nano Vapour (6/10)

Thats how i view them overall in terms of taste, mixabillity, results, cost.

[8-Hype]

Is Leukic Hardcore a good supplement pre-workout? Has anyone tried it?

[ShreddedOne]

I've tried many. Of the ones I've tried:

1st: White Flood, NO Xplode

2nd: NO Shotgun (old version. WILL try the new version sometime)

3rd: SuperPump 250 (only tried a couple free samples. Might give it a better rating if I had more experience with it.)

4th: Trac Extreme NO

UTTER CRAP: Nano Vapor

[Tolerance]

Is Leukic Hardcore a good supplement pre-workout? Has anyone tried it?

if you wanna gain 2 inches to your bicep in a single workout, GET IT! :rolleyes:

lol jk.


I've tried many. Of the ones I've tried:

1st: White Flood, NO Xplode

2nd: NO Shotgun (old version. WILL try the new version sometime)

3rd: SuperPump 250 (only tried a couple free samples. Might give it a better rating if I had more experience with it.)

4th: Trac Extreme NO

UTTER CRAP: Nano Vapor

LOL rep'd!

[8-Hype]

if you wanna gain 2 inches to your bicep in a single workout, GET IT! :rolleyes:

lol jk.

No, really. Does it help, or are products like SuperPump 250, Animal Pump and Shotgun better?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

ive gone through 4 tubs of NO-XPLODE using a little over 1 scoop each time. at first it worked very well but after 3 weeks on it i'd feel it less and less. so why buy 3 more freakin tubs after? simple: i was afraid to try anything different since it is supposedly "the best musclebuilding product in the world" eh bb.com? na.. not blaming anyone for excelent marketing campains.
NO-XPLODE 7/10

after doing some research about ingredients i bought a tub of Universal's Shock Therapy and got Great results from it! focus, intensity and an incredible jolt 4 minutes after taking the stuff
SHOCK THERAPY 9/10

Im cycling off shock therapy while waiting for my order of White Flood to come in. 14 days international shipping...

While im cycling off the stimulants my pre workout drink is the MHP TRAC i got for free. ...its kind of like really expensive orange juice
TRAC 5/10

will post my review of White Flood 10 days after i start using it
ps. this is my first post after 3 years of lurking so do forgive my jargon free nooblike verbatim
looking forward to your feedbacj

I've tried many. Of the ones I've tried:

1st: White Flood, NO Xplode

2nd: NO Shotgun (old version. WILL try the new version sometime)

3rd: SuperPump 250 (only tried a couple free samples. Might give it a better rating if I had more experience with it.)

4th: Trac Extreme NO

UTTER CRAP: Nano Vapor

thanks for the feedback and dont forget, white flood lasts 50 workout per tub :eek:

[naturalguy]

after doing some research about ingredients i bought a tub of Universal's Shock Therapy and got Great results from it! focus, intensity and an incredible jolt 4 minutes after taking the stuff
SHOCK THERAPY 9/10



Great to hear you like Shock Therapy. It can't be beat @ 50 servings for $31.99 :eek: it's the best price/serving/results.

[DaBurg3r]

E/C/A stack
BSN NO-explode

/thread

[cmukid87]

I tried Nano Vapor a couple months ago. I got 2/3 of the way through the tub and it seemed to quit working. I had to choke it down to begin with and it gave me some nasty trips to the bathroom.

I'm using NO Shotgun now and its AWESOME. Superpumps, no crashes, nice strength gains.

And a heads up, Superpump 250 and NO Shotgun fans, they are going on sale soon.
Superpump 250: Oct. 29 wheycheap.com (11.99 for 280 grams/14 servings)
NO Shotgun: Oct. 26 wheycheap.com (24.99 for 644grams/28 servings)

[Tolerance]

No, really. Does it help, or are products like SuperPump 250, Animal Pump and Shotgun better?

get teh superpumpz. i think i'd get animal pump over Leukic, too. my friend used animal pump. he liked it.

[8-Hype]

get teh superpumpz. i think i'd get animal pump over Leukic, too. my friend used animal pump. he liked it.

And how about Shock Therapy?

[northswell101]

I've tried NO explode, Superpump 250, and Purple Wraath.
NOExplode: good taste, fairly decent energy throughout

Superpump 250: I bought the orange, which kind of tastes like sherbert with a lot of sugar. Made me a little jittery, but did give a great pump.

Purple Wraath: A little lacking in the flavor (probably the lack of sugar, good thing), but what a boost. I can deal with the taste(isn't that bad) because it is the real deal, no nonsense continuous energy. My favorite Pre and during workout drink.

Just my opinion, not associated in any way with any of these companies.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've tried NO explode, Superpump 250, and Purple Wraath.
NOExplode: good taste, fairly decent energy throughout

Superpump 250: I bought the orange, which kind of tastes like sherbert with a lot of sugar. Made me a little jittery, but did give a great pump.

Purple Wraath: A little lacking in the flavor (probably the lack of sugar, good thing), but what a boost. I can deal with the taste(isn't that bad) because it is the real deal, no nonsense continuous energy. My favorite Pre and during workout drink.

Just my opinion, not associated in any way with any of these companies.
purple wraath is also stimulant free. try the lemonade, you will love it.

if you want a real kick, try white flood with it :)

[Valenzuelatech]

I love shock therapy. You should check out my "Big Picture" stack log in the sponsored logs section bro. And holy ****, you're only 20??? (no homo) nice physique jesus

Thanks bro! I earned my pre workout supplement stack (Shock Therapy+Now ALA+Universal Creatine+Now Beta-Alanine+Universal Amino 1900) by acting as an extra for this lame-ass tv show "Dyesebel" which is apparently #1 rated in my country! doesnt sound too bad? yeah.. forgot to mention, i was cast as a Merman. (no homo please) 3 freakin days on set wearing a latex fish tail for the love of the supplements.. thats dedication for ya!

on the other hand, twasnt too bad, considering everyone on set's topless (mermaids) hmmm... okay lets not get distracted here!

[VergieFergie]

I'm not really a review type of guy, but I can tell you that I've never felt better in the gym than sense I've started taking Steel Edge I feel like its really helping my gains as well.

Just though I'd share...

Here are some reviews:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=935573&highlight=Steel+edge

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4225073&highlight=Steel+edge

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7535761&highlight=Steel+edge

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1545391&highlight=Steel+edge

I guess it was so good bb.com ran out at some point lol but it's back now.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=110017761&highlight=Steel+edge

[cmukid87]

One of the best things about NO Shotgun is that it has 20 grams of protein per serving.

[MARIOGLZ69]

I just got a 15 pack box of trac and ive been taking it this past week most workouts, i prefer an energized pre-workout drink most of the time (ive actually been adding a mini scoop of fast twitch in with the trac) but the TRAC has given me some of the best pumps and crazy vascularity like ive never had with another product. Def lovin it, if they had caffeinated trac id be all over that..
TRAC FROM MHP?

[BenchAddict]

if you want to use a pre-workout sup. without the worries of effects from suspicious/unknown ingredients, i would say go with Black Powder.

Supplies a good amount of energy throughout your workout, and good pump.

[Wolves42]

Alright well i just got my NO-Shotgun, taken it 3 times now and every time i am still getting this itchy feeling during and after the work out my 4th day i cut the scoop to only half and still got the same feeling so i think im going to disconitue using it, I have taken NO-Explode, and Black powder and have never had this happen so i dont no what Superpump, or White Flood would do any ideas?

[EmPumP]

IMO If you want a sick pump and intense lift go with superpump, hands down I love this stuff. On my second tube.

[Wolves42]

Alright good deal you ever tried the NO-Shotgun v3?

[Tolerance]

Alright well i just got my NO-Shotgun, taken it 3 times now and every time i am still getting this itchy feeling during and after the work out my 4th day i cut the scoop to only half and still got the same feeling so i think im going to disconitue using it, I have taken NO-Explode, and Black powder and have never had this happen so i dont no what Superpump, or White Flood would do any ideas?

pm'd ya back, brah ;)


IMO If you want a sick pump and intense lift go with superpump, hands down I love this stuff. On my second tube.

superpump250 FTW!!!!!!

[IronMan9201]

vapor works for me but gets kinda old. too much mental stim. got some samples of n.o. shotgun v3. AWSOME pumps good endurance and energy. has anyone tried glycergrow from CL? how well does it work. is it worth stacking with a creatine, a preworkout, purple wrath, and a post? i'm considering it but not sure if it will help put on some exra size or if its more of just a pump/ energy endurance product. or u think just white flood or superpump would b better without adding it?

[franktheweapon]

hmmmm, id say NO shotgun V3 and super charge

[fozza]

if you want to use a pre-workout sup. without the worries of effects from suspicious/unknown ingredients, i would say go with Black Powder.

Supplies a good amount of energy throughout your workout, and good pump.

Yeah ay, me and my mate just went halves in a tub of this cause it's pretty expensive but it does the job. I couldn't straighten my arms properly after working out because the pump was so good.

By the way, how did NO-Xplode get the Pre-Workout Supplement of the year? I thought it was suppose to be hyped up rubbish...which is why i didn't buy it.

[franco.butera@gmail.com]

Hi All...

I've used SP250 for over a year and loved it... It has never let me down and was the best pre-workout drink I have ever used... I also used to take it right after a protein shake and then hit the gym hard... I was never tired... and was able to continue even though my partner started to slow down...

I hate No-explode ... worse taste I have ever tried and it did zero for me...

I'm currently testing Black powder and Juggernaut... I rotate between them one day Black powder and the next day Juggernaut...

I'm on my 3rd day and trying BP again ...so far I'm not experiencing the amazing pumps and focus I got from SP250 and SP250 worked right after my first shake which doesn't seem to be the case with any of the other products...

I'll keep everyone updated on how those 2 products perform... But I do miss my sp250 and at this point I wish I had sp250 instead...(but spent too much money on these new products and have to use them now) :(

Hope this helps...
FB

[BenchAddict]

Yeah ay, me and my mate just went halves in a tub of this cause it's pretty expensive but it does the job. I couldn't straighten my arms properly after working out because the pump was so good.

By the way, how did NO-Xplode get the Pre-Workout Supplement of the year? I thought it was suppose to be hyped up rubbish...which is why i didn't buy it.

Yea, im not sure how NO-Xplode came away with the supplement of the year.

Out of the supplements i have tried, (black Powder x3, Nano Vapor, NO-Xplode, Animal Pump, Sp 250, NO-Shotgun V3, White Flood) I would have put NO-Xplode in last in every category except taste (Which it wouldn't rank TOO high in that anyway.)

[jedi-dude]

SP250 FTW. Especially now they have improved the formula. No Superdumps anymore

[8-Hype]

Is NO Shotgun (pre) and NO SyntheSize (post) a good stack? Or is Shock Therapy along with Torrent better?

[8-Hype]

And why isn't everybody preferring Shotgun over SuperPump? Shotgun has 20g of protein per serving, SuperPump doesn't have any.

[Animal76]

I've tried just about every pre-workout supp on the market and I honestly like Vasocharge the best, partly because it has no carbs in it, but it also gets me fired up and it tastes great. Since there's no maltodextrin or simple carb in it I can leave it in during my contest prep.
Some of the others like Dymatize Xpand and NO Explode weren't bad, while others like Shock Therapy actually made me feel sick to my stomach (several other people encountered the same problem). I initially like Supercharge by Labrada, but ended up with the nausea at time (and I do not have a sensitive stomach, I can also handle a lot of stimulants).
I get the cleanest feeling (the best way I can describe it) from Vasocharge.

[Animal76]

why would you want 20g of protein in a pre-workout supplement?
That would slow down it's effectiveness


And why isn't everybody preferring Shotgun over SuperPump? Shotgun has 20g of protein per serving, SuperPump doesn't have any.

[franco.butera@gmail.com]

why would you want 20g of protein in a pre-workout supplement?
That would slow down it's effectiveness

I don't believe it would... I take 1 1/2 scoops of optimum whey protein in a shake with some frozen fruits and a banana which gives me the energy I need before the gym and then 15min later I take my NO drink (SP250)... it's the best stack before the Gym and many documented articles say to take protein pre-workout...

just my 2cents...

FB

[IronMan9201]

has anyone tryied GlycerGrow by CL? would it be worth stacking with superpump or white flood?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Alright well i just got my NO-Shotgun, taken it 3 times now and every time i am still getting this itchy feeling during and after the work out my 4th day i cut the scoop to only half and still got the same feeling so i think im going to disconitue using it, I have taken NO-Explode, and Black powder and have never had this happen so i dont no what Superpump, or White Flood would do any ideas?
that is beta alanine, its normal and most people like it

has anyone tryied GlycerGrow by CL? would it be worth stacking with superpump or white flood?
glycergrow make a great stack with white flood :)

[SteakNshake]

Best one i've tried so far is Animal Pump! By far!! Yet, I still have so much more products to try.....

[Inspired916]

CL beats everything ive tried. NO xplode too much caffeine .. NO awesome until V3 was released, superpump250 did nothing for me... i will be trying out CL : PW, and i will see what green mag has to offer after im done with my Kre-alkalyn which is amazing btw =)

[franktheweapon]

I don't believe it would... I take 1 1/2 scoops of optimum whey protein in a shake with some frozen fruits and a banana which gives me the energy I need before the gym and then 15min later I take my NO drink (SP250)... it's the best stack before the Gym and many documented articles say to take protein pre-workout...

just my 2cents...

FB

why do you wanna be digesting proteing during a workout?? wouldnt you wanna feed your muscles with BCAAs and EAAs instead?

[fischetti]

why do you wanna be digesting proteing during a workout?? wouldnt you wanna feed your muscles with BCAAs and EAAs instead?

just keep it simple guys,one day youre goin to wish you didnt spend all this money on supplements.

[BenRea]

dont take animal pump. doesnt work. it's all a mind trick.

[fischetti]

dont take animal pump. doesnt work. it's all a mind trick.

hows that;)

[Animal76]

agreed!


why do you wanna be digesting proteing during a workout?? wouldnt you wanna feed your muscles with BCAAs and EAAs instead?

[Animal76]

I did not like Animal Pump when I tried it...probably the weakest of all of them


dont take animal pump. doesnt work. it's all a mind trick.

[Ricklovin]

I started my Shock Therapy/Storm stack last night and I thought Shock Therapy was awesome. I have used a lot of pre-workouts in the past and I think ST may be my new favorite.

[naturalguy]

dont take animal pump. doesnt work. it's all a mind trick.

Everyone responds differently to supps however by and large most people respond well to Animal Pump, in fact the feedback we get on it is amazing:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=902775&highlight=Animal+Pump+is+amazing


I started my Shock Therapy/Storm stack last night and I thought Shock Therapy was awesome. I have used a lot of pre-workouts in the past and I think ST may be my new favorite.

For the price/servings/results Shock Therapy can't be beat!

[fischetti]

I started my Shock Therapy/Storm stack last night and I thought Shock Therapy was awesome. I have used a lot of pre-workouts in the past and I think ST may be my new favorite.

good value to:)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

CL beats everything ive tried. NO xplode too much caffeine .. NO awesome until V3 was released, superpump250 did nothing for me... i will be trying out CL : PW, and i will see what green mag has to offer after im done with my Kre-alkalyn which is amazing btw =)

thanks for the kind words and glad you are enjoying white flood :)

white flood tablets just shipped to bb.com yesterday :)

[IronMan9201]

hey what do u guys think about Gakic by MT or/vs/ n30 y MRI ? can u even compare them to white flood/ superpump/ ect for pre workout?

[Tolerance]

hey what do u guys think about Gakic by MT or/vs/ n30 y MRI ? can u even compare them to white flood/ superpump/ ect for pre workout?

you're 14

being serious tho........... i wouldn't take an N.O. product at the age of 14. and im not sure that Gakic is even an N.O. product. Isn't it a "fatigue" reducer? (besides the fact that it adds hardcore muscle to your arm in 17 hours)

[Swirlsy]

Well, I just bough NaNo Vapor the other day. Tried one scoop before a workout yesterday and it had mediocre effects at least compared to all the hype about it and I was dissapointed. But then today, I tried 2 scoops and 15 minutes later ... BOOM! I was all edgy and couldn't wait to get in the gym. Had some amazing pumps, although it made me a little dizzy after the workout, I would say this was an amazing product nonetheless. I just hope it stays like that for more then a week. Which is another thing i find with these preworkout supplements, the tolerance builds up pretty fast, even when cycling off and on.

[michael-paul]

I tried No Xplode just a two day sample, so I guess I can't evaluate it very well. But I loved the workouts I had with Juggernaut. I am suprised it's not mentioned at all. I hear about Sp 250, white flood, black powder, no explode, but no one ever talks about Juggernaut.
This stuff worked great for me. My weights went up 20% or more and I was able to do more sets then ever before. I

I ran out a couple weeks ago, and couldn't afford to buy more. I tried to go natural, but I don't have the same drive with out my booster buddy.

[jj2006]

Nanovapor! I love jitter feeling **** Feels so good

[TAWS6]

white flooddddddddddddddd

[jrjoyner]

I have taken every pre workout supp there is. Got a ton of samples from the Olympia expo. I have to say the best for energy is a mixture of NO Xplode and White Flood. I just mix a scoop of each. It has an explosive effect. Labrada NO Extreme Super Charge is great as well.

Interesting story, when I got my first tub of WF I took a single scoop and headed for the gym. After about 10 minutes my face started tingling. Then my whole body started burning. Then I could not breath! Seriously, I thought I was gonna suffocate. The feeling only lasted for about 60 seconds. I was fine and super amped after that. It is funny that every time I take WF, I get that initial feeling like I'm going to pass out. But, after a minute or so it passes and I'm ready to go. Very good supp.

My favorite pre workout supp is Animal Pump. I like the pumps and the energy is more steady and consistent. I also like the fact that it is still effective after two months of use. AP is the best pre workout supp.

[IronMan9201]

you're 14

being serious tho........... i wouldn't take an N.O. product at the age of 14. and im not sure that Gakic is even an N.O. product. Isn't it a "fatigue" reducer? (besides the fact that it adds hardcore muscle to your arm in 17 hours)

ha. by the way my picture is from when i was 13. bout 28 pounds more muscle on me now :) yea it is a fatigue reducer but it also gives me some pumps and the hardcore has caffeine. so fits into this category. the n30 has some actual arginine and a little different profile. just wondering if anyones compared the two. someone at my gym said he is in love with the n30...... also anyone try the non hardcore gakic stacked with white flood or other pre?

[omurphy21]

I have taken every pre workout supp there is. Got a ton of samples from the Olympia expo. I have to say the best for energy is a mixture of NO Xplode and White Flood. I just mix a scoop of each. It has an explosive effect. Labrada NO Extreme Super Charge is great as well.

Interesting story, when I got my first tub of WF I took a single scoop and headed for the gym. After about 10 minutes my face started tingling. Then my whole body started burning. Then I could not breath! Seriously, I thought I was gonna suffocate. The feeling only lasted for about 60 seconds. I was fine and super amped after that. It is funny that every time I take WF, I get that initial feeling like I'm going to pass out. But, after a minute or so it passes and I'm ready to go. Very good supp.

My favorite pre workout supp is Animal Pump. I like the pumps and the energy is more steady and consistent. I also like the fact that it is still effective after two months of use. AP is the best pre workout supp.

I get the same feeling, the one where I have a little trouble breathing and I'm forced to breath deeply for a minute or so. It's probably not a good thing but it always passes. Good thing it's not only me.

[sonofafarmer]

I just came back to the game of bodybuilding was out for years my displine is not all there yet but I went from 40 LB dumbells to 120Lb dumbells 8 reps with this stuff called Isa-test and Morph from satori I think thats how you spell it is amazing.

P.S I don't work for the company.

[sonofafarmer]

It is a vacodilator It can give you a heart-attack that **** is not safe in the long run don't take it too long.

[sonofafarmer]

It is a vacodilator It can give you a heart-attack that **** is not safe in the long run don't take it too long.

The NO products I mean

[mikestud34]

fast twitch.
idk if its a new product but works great.
i feel the pump throughout my whole workout.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

white flooddddddddddddddd

whats so good about it ?? :D

[IronMan9201]

hm i think ima order the small bottle of flood and the small bottle of superpump. can't go wrong

[msauka]

I am enjoying White Blood because it is stim free. I have high blood pressure, my body doesn't tolerate any stims in large amounts (one coffee per day is ok).

[Tolerance]

fast twitch.
idk if its a new product but works great.
i feel the pump throughout my whole workout.

Fast Twitch has GLYCOCYAMINE.

[borcic0]

super pump by far

[MaximumMass]

I found I am weaker after taking preworkout stuff. I know its weird.

[TruculentTrev]

BSN no-explode!!
interested in trying superpump tho, have heard good things about it

[CONTROLLED LABS]

hm i think ima order the small bottle of flood and the small bottle of superpump. can't go wrong
not a bad idea, then stick with the one you like better :)

I am enjoying White Blood because it is stim free. I have high blood pressure, my body doesn't tolerate any stims in large amounts (one coffee per day is ok).
good move, its a great option for someone in your circumstance or those who workout close to bedtime

[or_yourlivingtodie]

i wanna try the white flood tabs


bb.com release?

[IronMan9201]

Hey what are the dosing instructions on white flood? i can't get on controlledlabs.com for some reason and it doesn't really say here

[TheCokeBaron]

Shock Therapy is by far the best one I have ever used.

I have tried:

-NO XPLODE
-SUPERPUMP 250
-WHITE FLOOD
-CAFFEINE PILLS
-ANIMAL PUMP (also very good, just not such a big initial kick)

and ST takes the cake. Completely OWNS all of them.

[msauka]

Hey what are the dosing instructions on white flood? i can't get on controlledlabs.com for some reason and it doesn't really say here

you can search it in bb.com store and find out on product page

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i wanna try the white flood tabs


bb.com release?
hoping for monday (all warehouses have it as of friday)

Hey what are the dosing instructions on white flood? i can't get on controlledlabs.com for some reason and it doesn't really say here
website is down for a few days as we switch servers/hosts

take white flood 30 minutes preworkout. you can also mix it preworkout with green magnitude in the same shake for convenience :)

[j0sh]

been using shock therapy for 2 weeks an i gota say its done nothing for me, sp250 was great for about a week then nothing..
i dont really react to creatine, or caffeine in small doses, anything over 300mg of caffeine an im buzzing tho. what do you guys recommend i try next?
thanks, josh.

[msauka]

Try White Blood it's stim and creatine free. And it is working.

[labradarep]

been using shock therapy for 2 weeks an i gota say its done nothing for me, sp250 was great for about a week then nothing..
i dont really react to creatine, or caffeine in small doses, anything over 300mg of caffeine an im buzzing tho. what do you guys recommend i try next?
thanks, josh.

How about Labrada Nutrition's SuperCharge Xtreme?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/lab/super.html

If you want so feedback you can look at this thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=110998241

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Try White Blood it's stim and creatine free. And it is working.

great option for those off stims or working out close to bedtime

[jrsikes]

SuperPump 250 Gaspari Nutrition amazing pump and energy.

[01NastySS]

Since CL is so frequent in this thread.. Ill ask here.

Does WF have anything in common with ass-explode (NO Xplode) or SumperDump 250? Reason Im asking is, Ive somehow developed a sensitivity to these sups. I used to take NO religiously and switched to SP one day and have been sensitive ever since (this was 3 years ago) . Im not sensitive to much as I can down a ton of soda or energy drinks in a day and not have any problems, but after 3 days of the NO (started last week), Im on the can up to 6 times a day with a waterfall coming out of my tail. I want a good pre-workout sup as Im in the gym at 6am and need a good kick.

[Blue Blazer]

Since CL is so frequent in this thread.. Ill ask here.

Does WF have anything in common with ass-explode (NO Xplode) or SumperDump 250? Reason Im asking is, Ive somehow developed a sensitivity to these sups. I used to take NO religiously and switched to SP one day and have been sensitive ever since (this was 3 years ago) . Im not sensitive to much as I can down a ton of soda or energy drinks in a day and not have any problems, but after 3 days of the NO (started last week), Im on the can up to 6 times a day with a waterfall coming out of my tail. I want a good pre-workout sup as Im in the gym at 6am and need a good kick.

Well everyone seems to react differently to NO, but alot of people have had problems with crapping when it came to NO. Like you said, superDUMP250 (never tried, but heard this often) but apparently they have remade this product (version 3) and now this problem is fixed...

I can tell you that I had sh!tting problems with White Flood and so have others lol...we call it; brown flood:D

[doclane]

Hands down NO-xplode. I have tried several products in the past but I have never felt the pump like i do with this product. I can feel it working within 30 minutes and the way it makes me feel and the energy it gives me is phenominal.

[janthonyf]

I havent used very many but i really like Animal Pump. Provides a good pump and its relatively cheap depending on where u buy it from.

[IronMan9201]

on white flood the serving says 2 scoops. is it like other products where they say you can take 1-3 servings or is white flood meant to stay at that dose?

[labradarep]

great option for those off stims or working out close to bedtime

I am going to try this out. My schedule forces me to workout late & then I have trouble falling asleep with a pre workout supp with stims.

[Micah123]

Just finished off my 3rd tub of White Flood :p

[l.lai]

I feel White Flood is definately over rated in this forum. Its not a bad product but for me, it just wasnt all its cracked up to be. Lucky when i bought two tubs i was able to sell off the unopened 2nd tub.

Having tried NO Xplode, SP250 and now WF, i have to say imo, SP250 is by far, the best supplement for pre workout energy, massive pumps and good lifts.

The pumps from WF were mediocre, energy was okay (only after i increased it to 3 scoops but it gave me jitters and made me feel dizzy all workout, but then going back to 2 scoops didnt do much for me).

NO Xplode is a joke, nuff said there.

I've got Universals SHOCK Therapy on the way so i guess we'll see how that goes compared to SP250 and WF.

[kramermjl575]

NaNox9? Hardcore!!!! BY far the best out there!!

[kelleymmm1]

Has anyone tried Black Powder?

[BenRea]

Has anyone tried Black Powder?


Yes I have. I would say it's a decent pump but nothing special and the cost is way too much for the results.

[EEytonJones]

NaNox9? Hardcore!!!! BY far the best out there!!

I think you are the first person in this forum that I've heard say that...
but good for you if it truly works!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Since CL is so frequent in this thread.. Ill ask here.

Does WF have anything in common with ass-explode (NO Xplode) or SumperDump 250? Reason Im asking is, Ive somehow developed a sensitivity to these sups. I used to take NO religiously and switched to SP one day and have been sensitive ever since (this was 3 years ago) . Im not sensitive to much as I can down a ton of soda or energy drinks in a day and not have any problems, but after 3 days of the NO (started last week), Im on the can up to 6 times a day with a waterfall coming out of my tail. I want a good pre-workout sup as Im in the gym at 6am and need a good kick.
you shouldnt have digestive issue with white flood. however if you are very sensitive to stims, that could be the cause, but if you are ok with energy drinks that is most likely not your specific issue.

on white flood the serving says 2 scoops. is it like other products where they say you can take 1-3 servings or is white flood meant to stay at that dose?
stay at the label dose. its a potent product.

I am going to try this out. My schedule forces me to workout late & then I have trouble falling asleep with a pre workout supp with stims.
awesome, keep us posted :)

Just finished off my 3rd tub of White Flood :p

thanks for your loyalty, save up those labels/bottles/receipts for free cl gear and product (check thread in my signature) :)

[Bas85]

Ill have to say Superpump 250 has worked great for me. The pumps are amazing and it makes you not want to stop working out.

Ive also tried NO-Explode. Awesome product but just doesnt taste all that great to me. Great pumps and energy.

Ill be one to also back Nanox9. Good product but it doesnt match up to the other 2 i just mensioned.

Over all Superpump250 is my favorite right now. Have yet to try something that works as good for me. And ya it does give you the sh*ts especially when you first try it. Doesnt do it that much for me now though.

[01NastySS]

Well everyone seems to react differently to NO, but alot of people have had problems with crapping when it came to NO. Like you said, superDUMP250 (never tried, but heard this often) but apparently they have remade this product (version 3) and now this problem is fixed...

I can tell you that I had sh!tting problems with White Flood and so have others lol...we call it; brown flood:D

interesting.... when did they come out with V3? I know Im not sensitive to caffeine. I can drink 4 Monsters and never feel the caffeine in it.

Im torn between trying SP250 (kinda dreading since I have a 3/4 tub of NO that I cant use) and WF. Animal Pump looks promising also.

[dc01]

Anyone tried NO ShotGun?...whats Your feedback, Also what do you think about Isopure after yourworkout with some apple juice and banana or energy peanut butter?!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

interesting.... when did they come out with V3? I know Im not sensitive to caffeine. I can drink 4 Monsters and never feel the caffeine in it.

Im torn between trying SP250 (kinda dreading since I have a 3/4 tub of NO that I cant use) and WF. Animal Pump looks promising also.
get a small tub of each and stick with the one you like best :)

[jshaw5]

Very soon (maybe next week) I'll be moving on to my second tub of White Flood. I'm still on my first tub of Green Magnitude. I really like the combination (along with Purple Wraath during my workout), gives me good energy, strength, and focus for my workouts. The taste is not the best, but it's not bad with enough water. I would suggest you mix WF and GM separately though. I tried to mix them both in 16oz of water to cut down on the amount water I'm taking in, and the taste was unbearable.

I've also tried Black Powder before. I would probably rate that higher than WF for pumps, but not as much energy from it. The taste was pretty good though.

[jshaw5]

thanks for your loyalty, save up those labels/bottles/receipts for free cl gear and product (check thread in my signature) :)

what thread?

what's the deal with the white flood tablets? is it the same formula as the powder? should it be taken immediately before working out, or should you take it at least 30-60 minutes before working out?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

what thread?

what's the deal with the white flood tablets? is it the same formula as the powder? should it be taken immediately before working out, or should you take it at least 30-60 minutes before working out?

here is the loyalty thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6654831

white flood tablets are the exact formula as the powder.45 minutes preworkout is good for most since it take a bit longer for tabs to breakdown than for powder.

[Mac9123]

Cellucor's M5 or N-Zero

Both of them work like crazy. I have never felt so strong from a pre-workout drink.

I've taken NO Xplode, Superpump 250, NO Shotgun and it blows them all out of the water

[arsilva]

I have used (in order)
BSN No Xplode
Scivation VasoCharge
CL White Flood

The Scivation Vasocharge definitely worked the best for me. Not just energy...but like a strange intensity I never got from anything else.

And don't think I'm saying that because of what's in my sig. I used it before I was Team Scivation, and I'm not sponsored so...

[joeysby]

4 nitro tropic by epic, lemonaide flavor.


very basic, all the ingridients you need and tastes ok. works pretty good on only 1-2 scoops gets the job done.

40 servings for 29 bucks. for my bros on a budget.



btw nano vapor and No expl work good too. just so much money every month or so.

[naturalguy]

Shock Therapy is by far the best one I have ever used.

I have tried:

-NO XPLODE
-SUPERPUMP 250
-WHITE FLOOD
-CAFFEINE PILLS
-ANIMAL PUMP (also very good, just not such a big initial kick)

and ST takes the cake. Completely OWNS all of them.

You just can't beat Shock Therapy for the price/results.

FYI............we just recently updated the label/bottle, here is what the new Shock Therapy looks like:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r217/er1994/shocktherapy_grape.jpg

[code3gt]

Anyone tried NO ShotGun?...whats Your feedback, Also what do you think about Isopure after yourworkout with some apple juice and banana or energy peanut butter?!

The regular flavor NO Shotgun is nasty tasting but works awesome. I mix the powder with grape juice and it is tolerable.

[AMillane7]

white flood tabs

[CONTROLLED LABS]

white flood tabs

the tabs and the powder are both excellent and the same formula :)

[AMillane7]

the tabs and the powder are both excellent and the same formula :)

and my best friends

[user98511001541]

hey guys whats up

[jimmylamour]

Are any of these supplements made in an an FDA inspected facility?

[simpleguy]

Are any of these supplements made in an an FDA inspected facility?

as far as I know, it's FDA's job to track down anything, but till the FDA analyzes every product in detail it takes some time, so it can last a while on the shelves

kinda all I know really, maybe someone can give you more help

[CONTROLLED LABS]

and my best friends
do you take them to the movies with you? :D

Are any of these supplements made in an an FDA inspected facility?

all of our products are produced in a gmp for sport facility that is inspected by FDA and DEA.

[TheSilverSurfer]

SuperPump 250 Gaspari Nutrition amazing pump and energy.


I have used it and it is great

[SurfNaked]

Out of everything I've tried... I'll rank my top 5.

1.Myogenix Hypershock.

Pros: Nothing is better period. Never took a supplement that kept me pumped every time and kept my pump for hours after leaving the gym. 8 hours sustained release. I believe it. I would get the caffeine free version.

Cons: If you workout late passed 7pm, you will not sleep well. Sometimes you crash coming off, if you're an animal like I am in the gym.

2. White Flood -

Pros: Awesome Pumps. I mean insane pumps. Energy and tingling sensation is a plus, but doesn't give me as much energy as others. Which is a pro and a con since some make me feel cracked out.

Cons: I get flushed sometimes. Almost really hot. Like too warm. Feels like I have a sweater on. Causes me to over sweat on occasion.

3. VPX N.O. Shotgun. Pumps are great, energy is great. Would be tied with White Flood, but price is up there for the serving amount.

4. Nano Vapor. TOO HARDCORE! NOT CONSISTENT! Sometimes great pumps and energy. Sometimes pure insanity and sometimes nothing at all.

5. BSN N.O. Xplode. Good Muscle Builder. Gives me headaches though. Says no sugar but I swear it feels like u ate a bunch of candy till you get sick to your stomach.

[fischetti]

Just had order shock therapy today,just excellent reviews with the product

[J.O.B.]

wrkd at gnc tryd almost everything

****. . .
no shotgun no pump bad taste not a good product at all
no xplode zero pump
nano vapor horrible headaches n make u sweet like crazy and crash hella fast
no trac jst not as good as sum of the best, weak energy
that crap frm max muscle full blown hella sugar n no pump, idk bout the new formula
ragnarok- no pump 2 expensive

good 1s
no black powder- good pump no crash medium energy
XLevol - my favorite so far great pump hella energy cheapr thn most
white flood seems above average pump and energy


o ya n all pre wrkout no pills r weak ther just arginine wit no 2 barely any caffine so stick 2 powder

[fischetti]

Just had order shock therapy today,just excellent reviews with the product

Universal have some of the most effective products with amazing prices:)You have got me hooked guys

[jshaw5]

anyone ever try adrenol8 by champion nutrution? it seems to be an all-in-one preworkout drink with NO, creatine, BCAA's, etc.

http://www.champion-nutrition.com/adrenol8

[JaYdaBeasT]

Actually the Product Arnge Krush works almost instantly and keeps you focussed and clear headed with extreme Stamina

http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arngekrushdh5.jpg

[Peter LeDrew]

There is a brand new pre-workout/NO-booster/creatine player in town!!
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=111743821

PreSurge by Athletic Edge Nutrition now looks to me to be a superior choice with at least a couple new ingredients brought to the sports nutrition market, most notably Russian Tarragon ext. to enhance the entire formula.
This is not your typical arginine loaded failed NO-nitric oxide booster that seem to still come out, even though it's been proven awhile ago, arginine fails at increasing nitric oxide in humans who get enough in diet.

Real science, true synergy and a great price.

I'll post my thoughts when I get to use it.

[naturalguy]

Just had order shock therapy today,just excellent reviews with the product


Universal have some of the most effective products with amazing prices:)You have got me hooked guys

Shock Therapy is a great formula at an unbeatable price.

BB.com now has free samples in the cyberstore, just click and add them to your cart:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/shock.html

[Juelz919]

NO explode didnt do much for me. i felt strength and energy but i think it was in my mind. no added pump.
Super Charge (Labrada Nutrition) Gives me personally alot of energy. But more like a sugar high. but it has no sugar in it.

I like the sounds of white flood and am ordering some next paycheck.. everyone seems to like it, the ingredients are all there. i think that with the purple wraath and green magnitude will be perfect for me.

ya dig

[erimichjo]

It comes in a pill pack that is easy on the stomach for those of us who work out first thing in the morning before breakfast. Good steady energy throughout the workout and into the day without any crash. I also add in BCAA powder immediately before workout.

[01NastySS]

I guess you can add me to the White Flood bandwagon! Ive been using it all week and eating a granola bar with it. Great pumps and no side effects... yet.

Question about it though.. Do you still take it on non-training days? Im going to stack it with the green stuff when my Cell-gas empties.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

NO explode didnt do much for me. i felt strength and energy but i think it was in my mind. no added pump.
Super Charge (Labrada Nutrition) Gives me personally alot of energy. But more like a sugar high. but it has no sugar in it.

I like the sounds of white flood and am ordering some next paycheck.. everyone seems to like it, the ingredients are all there. i think that with the purple wraath and green magnitude will be perfect for me.

ya dig
awesome, its a very popular triple stack, with great results and a very good value with all of those servings :)

I guess you can add me to the White Flood bandwagon! Ive been using it all week and eating a granola bar with it. Great pumps and no side effects... yet.

Question about it though.. Do you still take it on non-training days? Im going to stack it with the green stuff when my Cell-gas empties.

no white flood on non-training days. keep us posted with a log or review if you have the time :)

[RippedFamMan]

It comes in a pill pack that is easy on the stomach for those of us who work out first thing in the morning before breakfast. Good steady energy throughout the workout and into the day without any crash. I also add in BCAA powder immediately before workout.

Universal Animal Pump did aboslutely nothing for me. A waste of money.

[FOCO]

Pump Fuel by PMD...I never want to leave the gym.....

[naturalguy]

It comes in a pill pack that is easy on the stomach for those of us who work out first thing in the morning before breakfast. Good steady energy throughout the workout and into the day without any crash. I also add in BCAA powder immediately before workout.


Universal Animal Pump did aboslutely nothing for me. A waste of money.

Sorry you didn't respond. We offer a 100% guarantee on all Universal/Animal products. You can return it to where you bought it for a refund or exchange (up to the retailer).

The majority of people respond to it and the feedback we get on it is amazing:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=902775&highlight=Animal+Pump+is+amazing

[bigjabjab]

I'm looking for a preworkout without creatine in it as I am cycling off at the moment. Other than White Flood, are there any others anyone would recommend?

[carrottopnelson]

awesome, its a very popular triple stack, with great results and a very good value with all of those servings :)


no white flood on non-training days. keep us posted with a log or review if you have the time :)

can u explain glycergrow for me please =) trying to decide whether to get it

[FireEater31]

I have only used NO-Xplode. It really got me going at first - but i built up a tolerance. I think i will try White Flood when NO XPL runs out. Seems to be getting great reviews.

[ericeyre]

I took NO Xplode and really never noticed anything special. I actually ended up giving it away when I moved. I'm trying NO Vapor just because I didn't really like NO Xplode. It sounds like its harder to get down then NO Xplode, though. ****! Just gonna have to cowboy up I guess.

[3fan8115]

I first tried the No Explode and was somewhat impressed, other than the fact after my workout I would be sitting on the toilet. No Explode would give me quite a caffeine rush and then a huge crash.

Approximately a month and a half ago, I switched to Nano Vapor and have been very impressed, I feel quite a difference between the two products and since swithcing, I noticed a big difference. Also I dont rush to the toilet anymore.

I highly recommend the Nano Vapor.

[joem4077]

Can someone enlighten me as to what exactly is in SP250, specifically in terms of caffeine and/or NO2? I'm thinking of switching from NO-Xplode to something new and am having a tough time finding a replacement,

I had read something earlier about Nitros Oxide, that it's A) not of any use to lifters except for those of the endurance vairety, and B) can actually be harmful to those taking it since we take it in such large doses. Can anyone attempt to enlighten me on this?

Is it even worth buying a pre-workout supplement that doesn't have at least NO2 in it? The only thing I've seen that I'd consider using as a replacement is Wheybolic Extreme 60 for the "extreme" results they claim it gives by using it before/after working out

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have only used NO-Xplode. It really got me going at first - but i built up a tolerance. I think i will try White Flood when NO XPL runs out. Seems to be getting great reviews.
glad to hear it, keep us posted with your feedback :)

can u explain glycergrow for me please =) trying to decide whether to get it
its a cell volumizer and a great value ;)

[burchyburch]

VPX NO shotgun...by far...and i mean BY FAR....posted in the NO supp section....i am really wanting to try CL products though...heard nothing good about them...

[ash-vtr]

Just purchased superpump250 yet to use it yet, whats the creatine content per scoop? Anyone?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

VPX NO shotgun...by far...and i mean BY FAR....posted in the NO supp section....i am really wanting to try CL products though...heard nothing good about them...

thanks for giving us a shot, have you requested the samples yet?

[DBaumgard]

So is Ragnarok or shock therapy better??

[bigjabjab]

So is Ragnarok or shock therapy better??

Try Ragnarok

[yesaccasey]

so what's the real answer... are the differences between the caffeine free and the caffeine loaded pre workout supplements noticeably different??

[stlrick]

Only tried WF tabs so far and was very impressed. I hope to try the powder and some of the other pre's at some point to compare.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=111956781

[demonalmuscle]

I would have to say Xtinguisher by Max Muscle! The stuff is freaky insane!
The beta-alynine tingle you get from the first dose gets you hooked and the work out is crazy after!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Only tried WF tabs so far and was very impressed. I hope to try the powder and some of the other pre's at some point to compare.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=111956781

excellent to hear. a log comparing the powder to the tablets would be awesome :)

[03SVT_COBRA]

Well I got my CL sample packs today.....right after I got back from the gym :(, so I will test the WF Tabs tomorrow!!!

Thanks CL!!!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Well I got my CL sample packs today.....right after I got back from the gym :(, so I will test the WF Tabs tomorrow!!!

Thanks CL!!!

looking forward to it, please be sure to leave feedback in the review section :)

[rjyard]

I have tried NOxplode a few times. I took it last year, stopped and then tried it again this year. Both times it did not do anything for me. I was expecting this "super" pump but nothing. I took 4 scoops at a time and it did not do anything. I am not sure if my weight has anything to do with it but 4 scoops should have done something.

I had some sample packs of Super Pump 250. I took them for a week and nothing. There was no super pump for me with that stuff.

After reading some comments in this forum I purchased White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Magnitude. I will start taking these next week. I have to go back to see how they are supposed to be stacked and probably add more. My weight is currently 320 and about 18% BF ( I am guessing on the BF).

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have tried NOxplode a few times. I took it last year, stopped and then tried it again this year. Both times it did not do anything for me. I was expecting this "super" pump but nothing. I took 4 scoops at a time and it did not do anything. I am not sure if my weight has anything to do with it but 4 scoops should have done something.

I had some sample packs of Super Pump 250. I took them for a week and nothing. There was no super pump for me with that stuff.

After reading some comments in this forum I purchased White Flood, Purple Wraath, and Green Magnitude. I will start taking these next week. I have to go back to see how they are supposed to be stacked and probably add more. My weight is currently 320 and about 18% BF ( I am guessing on the BF).
that is odd that you felt nothing on those other products. do you take a lot of coffee or other stimulants?

[rjyard]

that is odd that you felt nothing on those other products. do you take a lot of coffee or other stimulants?

I do not drink coffee at all. I have had energy drinks, but not that often. I have taken fat burners, but not so much that I should not get some sort of pump from those products.

I will start the WF tomorrow.

[graphyxx]

i liked black powder

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I do not drink coffee at all. I have had energy drinks, but not that often. I have taken fat burners, but not so much that I should not get some sort of pump from those products.

I will start the WF tomorrow. i dont know how you wouldnt have felt those products at all then, they have stimulants, you probably wont feel any then.

[onaquest]

Is there any caffeine in white flood? What exactly is in it?

I work out around 6, 7pm at night so im worried about not being able to sleep.

[jconway3082]

I just got a bottle of the Gaspari Super Pump 250, I take 2 servings of it 30 minutes before I lift and the pumps are awesome!!! No joke!!!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Is there any caffeine in white flood? What exactly is in it?

I work out around 6, 7pm at night so im worried about not being able to sleep.
many of the preworkout product have caffeine, including white flood.

just make sure space it by at least 5 hours from bed

[kwanthony187]

I can't wait to try greenmag. I'm gonna order a tub before the end of the month. I had another great workout today with white flood. it gets my approval. The best part is, I dont feel a crash. When I tried superpump I wouldnt get to sleep 8 hours after i took it. with WF I can take it 4 hours before bed and sleep just fine.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I can't wait to try greenmag. I'm gonna order a tub before the end of the month. I had another great workout today with white flood. it gets my approval. The best part is, I dont feel a crash. When I tried superpump I wouldnt get to sleep 8 hours after i took it. with WF I can take it 4 hours before bed and sleep just fine.

they are awesome together, you can even mix them in the same shake :)

[joeybolda]

as of now white flood, but i'm just starting nano vapor

[CONTROLLED LABS]

as of now white flood, but i'm just starting nano vapor

how long did you use white flood for?

[TigrShrk]

Universal Shock Therapy...best stuff I have tried so far...and I have tried alot of stuff.

[Jason515]

No Explode vs. Na-NO Vapor vs. NO-Shotgun

No Xplode: fruit punch
gives a caffine high; which can be good for a little energy but there is definitely a crash after lifting. Also you build a tolerance very fast. I had to double the dose after just 1 week. Pumps are pretty good. nothing special when compared to other No products. The price is better than Na NO vapor but still higher than ive seen Animal Pump go for (30$ on ******************). I didnt notice increased focus other than the caffine energy. The taste was actually not bad. Definitely the best of all 3. Not somthing i would drink for the taste but it is a plus that i dont have to hold my nose and chug.
Energy4/5
Focus 2/5
Pumps 3/5
Tolerance1/5
Taste 4/5
Price 3/5


Na-NO vapor: (fruit punch)
Im a big fan of this product because of the incredible enrergy it gives me and mental focus. I feel that its more than just a caffine buzz. i actually get more focussed and ready to lift. It gives about the same pumps as No-xplode; nothing special but its there. Tolerance is much better than No-xplode i feel that i can get through most of the bottle without getting used to the effects. BUT the biggest drawback of NaNo vapor is its price. Its the most expensive that ive seen on most websites, and i saw it at GNC for 79.99 for the larger bottle. I dont know if anyone actually pays that ( i feel bad if they do) but i know im not ready to spend 80$ on a preworkout drink. Taste also leaves somthing to be desired. I got used to it, but the first time i could barely get it down and missed the taste of NO-xplode.
Energy 5/5
Focus 5/5
Pumps 3/5
Tolerance 4/5
Taste 2/5
Price 1/5

NO-Shotgun
I got 5 free samples of this from vitamin world about 2 weeks ago while i was waiting for my Na-No vapor to come in the mail. I took 3 days of 1 packet and then the 4th day i took 2 packets. I feel that this product is even more of just a caffine product than No-Xplode. I just got pure caffine energy which lasted about 45 min. followed by a crash. I do have to say that it was a kick in the ass for those 45 min. I wasnt any more focussed so this product loses points with me. i did notice that my thoughts were racing and my eyes were darting and i couldnt sit still (caffine), and i didnt really like these effects which also makes it lose points. the taste is the worst out of all three. it was like the flouride that you get at the dentist, absolutely disgusting and i had to force it down all the way. I didnt see any difference in a pump from one you would get while lifting without it. Ive seen prices range with this product but it usually falls between Noxplode and Vapor. I didnt take this product long enough to judge Tolerance but i know that i did have to double my dosage on the 4th day to see same effects; because it is caffine energy i would say the tolerance is similar to No-xplode.
Energy 5/5
Focus 1/5
Pumps 1/5
Tolerance 1/5
Taste 1/5
Price 3/5

The winner of these three IMO is Vapor. (2. No-Xplode 3. Shotgun) . If you can afford it i would pick this one because its not just caffine energy but gives you some additional focus as well.
I will be trying Animal PUMP in the near future and will update.



everybody, for the price, the cheapest I get is for you guys to go to this bodybuilding site, they go lower then anyone I buy from. I buy stuff from bodybuilding.com.

Muscletech stuff are the best for me, I tried their Muscle Mass Stack, it works great I tested it for two weeks but decided to stop and save it so I can use it after I try out the Shredded Stack which I am starting in the morning. After I lose all the unecessary fat and water that blocks the view in my body, I am going back to MuscleMass Stack and finish the other two to three weeks worth of the pills... and oh the Cell-Tech and Nitro-Tech Stack are good but I dont have time to make drinks out of them every time I need them down my throat, and they are tiring because I am full time father of four who works 60 hrs a week and always doing stuff so I use pills to save me time and problems making drinks. I am muscletech freak here since it works for me every time.

[Jason515]

I am trying Nano Vapor and shredded stack starting tomorrow and I will let you guys know tomorrow night or sunday how it goes for me.

MuscleMass Stack actually made me push a lot more weigh then I ususally do and the problem is that it makes me able to do it for just an hour like we ususally are allowed to with or without supplements. And after that day, I still feel the chemistry from the stack still working on my muscles and making it grow and stronger for the next two days. Its amazing. So after I do the shredded stack and muscle mass stack, I am gonna try their other stuff to see which builds me a bigger body quicker becuz those three stacks I have done was all on strength, fat loss, and both. Maybe something stronger.

[Hammer of Thor]

White Flood for the energy , and Animal Pump for the PUMP. I havent tried a product yet that offers the benefits of those two products in one.

[IronMan9201]

First product i tried was black powder. It has a pretty good overall effect. it gave me consistent energy and no crash but it didn't realy get me amped or exited to workout like some others ive had. pumps were solid and consistent and didn't fail towards the end of the tub. the only two things that weren't that good were the focus and the taste. i didn't realy feel any more focused on it and it tasted like peptobismol which i hate. over all decent product especialy for pumps though.

Energy 7/10
Pump 8/10
Focus 4/10
Tolerance 9/10

Nano Vapor is probly my favorite so far. At first i did't like it that much because it made me a little too out of it and i would crash realy hard 1 out of 5 times i took it. however i stopped it for a while and tryed it again a month later and its great. it gives solid pumps, a nice energy boost, no crash and INSANE focus. its like all you can think about when you're working out is... well working out. never had that feeling on another pre workout where you are just so in the moment, and its definately way different than the focus just caffeine gives you. taste is decent, if a little bit gritty. (grape)

Energy 9/10
Pump 7.5/10
Focus 10/10
Tolerence 8/10

Lastly i tried some samples of N.O. Shotgun. First thing about this product... awesome pumps. first time i tryed it i just got great full body pumps just from my back warmup. it also has a full 20 grams of protein and a realy good profile. it gave me consistent energy like black powder but a little bit more of it. i can't say on tolerence because i only tried it like 5 times but i can say that the black cherry flavor is the best tasting pre workout i've tasted. i actualy like it, i found that you burp up the flavor later and its actualy kind of pleasent lol. anyway

energy 7.5-8/10
pump 10/10
focus 6/10
tolerence N/A

looking forward to trying a sample of white flood a friend gave me. if i like it im definately buying it next. also wanna try n get a sample of superpump

[rjyard]

So I stacked WF and GM and I actually felt something. It definitely gave me more energy and focus in the gym. I did not really get a pump but what it provided was definitly good enough to get me through a real good workout. I am not sure what would happen if I used an extra scoop, but I am inclined to try that tomorrow.

PW: I am not sure if I got a bad batch, but what is up with the smell? Perhaps it is me, but the one time I used it last week it was a workout initself to drink that stuff. I will try it again this week, but I may have to stick with the Sizon during the workout.

[IronMan9201]

Just tryed white flood last night and this morning and wow. most energy anythings ever gotten me short of pounding energy drinks or fat burners. gave me good focus and pumps and it kept going and going even after the two hours i was in the gym. even working legs hard for the first time in months didn't tire me out. it did make me a bit jittery but i think that would go away with continuous use.

Energy 10/10
Pump 8/10
focus 8.5/10

[cbezz]

excellent to hear. a log comparing the powder to the tablets would be awesome :)

Whats your personal preference? between the two? Im wondering which to buy, possibly thinking of tabs so i dont have to have nother drink.
On the hand you dont have to drink the tabs, which could hamper your work out if your doing cardio? But they're probs not absorbed as much or as fast. More controlled doses tho.
Any other differences?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

So I stacked WF and GM and I actually felt something. It definitely gave me more energy and focus in the gym. I did not really get a pump but what it provided was definitly good enough to get me through a real good workout. I am not sure what would happen if I used an extra scoop, but I am inclined to try that tomorrow.

PW: I am not sure if I got a bad batch, but what is up with the smell? Perhaps it is me, but the one time I used it last week it was a workout initself to drink that stuff. I will try it again this week, but I may have to stick with the Sizon during the workout.
awesome to hear, I wouldnt increase the dose, however if you havent cycled off of stims in a while, you should do that before starting white flood.

purple wraath and sizeon are two very different products, and are not substitutes just because they are both taken intraworkout. use very cold ater with the purple wraath and it should taste great

Just tryed white flood last night and this morning and wow. most energy anythings ever gotten me short of pounding energy drinks or fat burners. gave me good focus and pumps and it kept going and going even after the two hours i was in the gym. even working legs hard for the first time in months didn't tire me out. it did make me a bit jittery but i think that would go away with continuous use.

Energy 10/10
Pump 8/10
focus 8.5/10
awesome, did you take a full dose?

Whats your personal preference? between the two? Im wondering which to buy, possibly thinking of tabs so i dont have to have nother drink.
On the hand you dont have to drink the tabs, which could hamper your work out if your doing cardio? But they're probs not absorbed as much or as fast. More controlled doses tho.
Any other differences? I am loving the tabs right now, but both hold a special place in my hear :D