Best Overall Pre-Workout Energy/Pump Supplement?

[RandallH19891]

I haven't compared any of the products (but *I think* both protein powders have creatine monohydrate). I remember when the Muscle Asylum ads started rolling out and all I could think was "This company is ripping off MuscleTech's advertising style... wait, it IS MuscleTech."

I'm not sure if PlasmaCore is the same as Vapor but hopefully it doesn't allow the body to grow a tolerance to it so quickly.

Supposedly PlasmaCore and Vapor are the same thing. I can't imagine they'd be much different anyways.. Oh, except in studies, people who used Plasmacore packed on 525926968787% more muscle! Hahahaha :D

[naturalguy]

I just ordered my Animal Pump, so if I understand this, when I take that, I won't have to take Creatine seperately, right? I had been taking 5 g of creatine 4x per week on my workout days.

Correct. Animal Pump has 3 grms of creatine in it which is enough for most people. Some bigger guys take a few grms more. I take Pump pre workout and Torrent post so I get some more in Torrent as well.

[italianplaya30]

If you had to pick just ONE pre-workout product for energy and/or pump, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take pre-workout products, if you should take pre-workout products, or why some pre-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite pre-workout product and give your detailed reason.)


Scivation Vasocharge- I believe this is the best natural pre workout supplement, awesome taste, no bloating, just crazy intensity and a mind blowing pump!

[ugoogalyzer]

i tried white flood by controlled labs and the taste was not the the best but overall it is the best pre workout shake ive had.The pumps were crazy and i did not fatigue through the whole workout.Whiteflood is the sh**

[garsome]

Just started the WF, GM stack today after about a ten day off cycle. Exited at the first workout getting the rust off from the long holiday weekend of traveling. Question for Controlled labs... I know directions for GM are to take pre or post workout... Which would you recommend? Is there any downside to consuming durring the workout? I feel like I am drinking far too much fluid with both pre-workout...

PS. Like the green apple flavor...



I'm on the same stack as you are right now. I'm in my third week and I love it. I got the best pump if I took WF and green mag pre workout. When I took both before my workout I would have the best workout but, it gave me the worst ****s so I do mag post now lol.

[TC123]

i liked superpump250. tasted great and i didnt crash or anything when the workout was over. like nanovapor. i had a huge pump but when i was done and went home i felt like i had nothing at all left.

[.c.c.c.c]

I would have to go with Black Powder by MRI. I have been a powerlifter for over 4 years and this product keeps me motivated day to day to go lift heavy

yeah black powder is the best followed by animal pump. pump is alot cheaper but black powder gives u a ba energy rush

[swearujacked]

I had amazing energy with White Flood, but much better pumps with Animal Pump. I might go back to WF soon cause I don't think the creatine in AP is doin **** for me.

[baseripper1]

Taking white flood for the first time in about 45 minutes...

Doing 30 minutes elliptical then an hour of weight training, leg split day. I'm thinking i should take half of it before cardio then half right after, wait 10 minutes to let it absorb and rehydrate, then lift... any thoughts or suggestions??

[JEculture]

I just finished my first bucket of Armageddon, which claims to not lose pump ever because its not as based on L-Arganine as other NO/prepump products.

Its right, you won't lose your pump. Because you won't ever get it. THIS PRODUCT WAS TERRIBLE. I feel more pump on no-xplode after 2 months straight than I do on this junk on the first day. I was off all forms of creatine/n.o. for at least a month and a half before using this product. So just FYI, avoid this thing at all costs.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i tried white flood by controlled labs and the taste was not the the best but overall it is the best pre workout shake ive had.The pumps were crazy and i did not fatigue through the whole workout.Whiteflood is the sh**
awesome, try using some more water and it should taste great :)

I'm on the same stack as you are right now. I'm in my third week and I love it. I got the best pump if I took WF and green mag pre workout. When I took both before my workout I would have the best workout but, it gave me the worst ****s so I do mag post now lol.
glad to hear it, thanks for posting up some feedback on WHITE FLOOD

I had amazing energy with White Flood, but much better pumps with Animal Pump. I might go back to WF soon cause I don't think the creatine in AP is doin **** for me.
thanks for the feedback, you will also save a good deal of money switching back since WHITE FLOOD has 50 workouts per tub :eek:

Taking white flood for the first time in about 45 minutes...

Doing 30 minutes elliptical then an hour of weight training, leg split day. I'm thinking i should take half of it before cardio then half right after, wait 10 minutes to let it absorb and rehydrate, then lift... any thoughts or suggestions??
keep us posted with any questions and feedback you may have.

[AngelSS]

I was a frequent user of BSN products. NO explode just dosent work for me anymore. I'm switching to NO Shotgun. I start tomorrow and before I do, I just have one question. Since NO shotgun contains some creatine phosphate, can I, better yet "Should I", continue taking the Creatine from "Cell mass"???? I don't want to overdo it with my kidneys, however I was getting incredible gains taking it. Any thoughts?

[HairlessPeePee]

universals animal pump

[Whjets7]

to me on wat ive tried id say no xplode 4 energy and hypershock 4 pump but there both good and have great tast

[Whjets7]

I was a frequent user of BSN products. NO explode just dosent work for me anymore. I'm switching to NO Shotgun. I start tomorrow and before I do, I just have one question. Since NO shotgun contains some creatine phosphate, can I, better yet "Should I", continue taking the Creatine from "Cell mass"???? I don't want to overdo it with my kidneys, however I was getting incredible gains taking it. Any thoughts?


go to creatine on bodybuilders.com and give your weight and body fat percentage and it will tell u about how much creatine u should take and then look how much ur no shotgun and ur cell mass equal

[Rob DiGiacinto]

Hi Everyone,
I posted a response to this question a while ago, but there still seems to be a bit of confusion surrounding N.O. PlasmaCore and naNO Vapor. So, I thought I'd clear it up:

"N.O. PlasmaCore is similar to naNO Vapor only in that they're both extremely powerful nitric oxide products, designed to be taken pre-workout. However, there are several differences that make them unique. For one, the ingredient profiles of each formula are distinct, as they're engineered to activate different physiological systems that will help you get an insane pump, build muscle and get the best workout possible. On top of that, they contain different delivery technologies (Rapid Wave Pulse Technology vs. naNO Diffuse Technology), which work to transport their specific ingredient blends throughout your body using different mechanisms. If you have any other questions, feel free to drop me a line."

Train Insane!
Rob

[naturalguy]

I had amazing energy with White Flood, but much better pumps with Animal Pump. I might go back to WF soon cause I don't think the creatine in AP is doin **** for me.

The creatine's working then.

If your looking for more energy you can consider Shock Therapy @ 50 servings for under $29 :eek: it can't be beat

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/shock.html

[RonShipman]

true, but its cheaper overall to get the small one if hes not sure if he likes it for the first time.


pre is best (you can mix the white flood and green magnitude in the same shake) and good luck with the stack. keep us posted :)

Or a sample would be cheapest?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Or a sample would be cheapest?

true, but we dont have unfortunately

[24-7-365]

goat piss gives me a wicked hardcore pump

[gymratharris]

I just finished my first bucket of Armageddon, which claims to not lose pump ever because its not as based on L-Arganine as other NO/prepump products.

Its right, you won't lose your pump. Because you won't ever get it. THIS PRODUCT WAS TERRIBLE. I feel more pump on no-xplode after 2 months straight than I do on this junk on the first day. I was off all forms of creatine/n.o. for at least a month and a half before using this product. So just FYI, avoid this thing at all costs.

how many scoops did you take. I have gone through 2 tubs and love this stuff. I USUALLY TAKE 2 SCOOPS AND OCCASIONALLY 3 ON A TOUGH LEG DAY.

[Zawot]

I'm going to have to say Arnge Krush is one of the best ones around. The taste is excellent it pretty much tastes like watered down cool aid the concentration is amazing! the energy resembles animal pump with a constant flow of energy. Deff give it a try if you are looking for something new to try!

[furyhockey]

That's the first post about Arnge Krush I think on all the pages. Never tried it but the guy at GNC was trying to really get me to buy it..couldn't figure out if he was on commission for it or if it's really good so I opted out of it but my buddy really likes it. I might try it but isn't it like 75.00 USD a bottle?

[RonShipman]

Shock Therapy hands down

[healthy stunna]

sp250

[Samsdaddy0525]

SuperPump 250 is probably my favorite. Pumps are great, and my sense of well being improves after taking it. I am also a big fan of Universal Shock Therapy. It is the best value for any pre workout drink.

[RippedFamMan]

I've taken Animal Pump 3 times now and nothing. Could it be because I'm coming off of 4 weeks of Vasocharge?

[blkvulcan]

I tried NO explode for about four weeks and it was good for the first three and then I started to get this ongoing dizziness from it. a disclamer is that I have been completely off caffeine since the fall of 07 so take that into account. aside from that side effect, the first week I got out of a plateau I was having and the focus and energy was of the charts. Felt like I cout lift heavier and do more reps and really helped me push myself harder. DO NOT TAKE THIS ANYWHERE NEAR BED!!! couldn't sleep for more than 3-4 hours a a time when I was on it, and this was about five to six hours after taking it. If your not sensitive to caffeine and stuff like I was I'd say it probably isnt that bad. I plan on trying Controlled labs purple wrath or white flood next since I don't want to get the side effects from NO explode

[naturalguy]

Shock Therapy hands down

For the money it would be hard to beat Shock Therapy at 50 servings for $29 :eek:


I've taken Animal Pump 3 times now and nothing. Could it be because I'm coming off of 4 weeks of Vasocharge?

It could be, your body may be used to the stims. FYI..........most people report 7-10 days for Animal Pump to fully kick in.

[j. ViLLA]

It could be, your body may be used to the stims. FYI..........most people report 7-10 days for Animal Pump to fully kick in.

Tried Animal Pump for the first time today. Wow! Felt a difference! Yeh it could be placebo effect, but i was more focused, i was able to continue pushing/pulling during the pump swollen feeling. It was great. Did chest and biceps today.

As far as energy, i felt it kick in while waiting 30 minutes, but it wasn't as high octane as i was expecting; it could be though because i'm cycling Lipo 6 and have only been off of it for 1.5 weeks.

So far so great with Animal Pump...the pump usually goes away like a few minutes after i leave the gym, but i was still feeling the pump in my arms 30 minutes after leaving the gym. I'll update my thoughts in a week!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I tried NO explode for about four weeks and it was good for the first three and then I started to get this ongoing dizziness from it. a disclamer is that I have been completely off caffeine since the fall of 07 so take that into account. aside from that side effect, the first week I got out of a plateau I was having and the focus and energy was of the charts. Felt like I cout lift heavier and do more reps and really helped me push myself harder. DO NOT TAKE THIS ANYWHERE NEAR BED!!! couldn't sleep for more than 3-4 hours a a time when I was on it, and this was about five to six hours after taking it. If your not sensitive to caffeine and stuff like I was I'd say it probably isnt that bad. I plan on trying Controlled labs purple wrath or white flood next since I don't want to get the side effects from NO explode

the white flood and purple wraath combo is amazing, you wont find anything else like it, thanks for giving it a shot :)

[FLPump]

Shock Therapy and Superpump 250 worked well for me

[MMAfighter1]

i just bought the nitric oxide shock therapy from the makers of muscle asylum project... Thats the best pump i've ever had in the gym... I was picking up weights 15-20 lbs more than what I usually do in my exercises, and it felt like my arms were going to burst! It was awesome...

[psychopath.]

If you want some serious pre-workout energy try LaBrada Super Charge. I have gone through 2 cans with no regrets. The only downside is that I seemed to develop a tolerence for the stuff and had to take more to get the same effect.

[devo09]

i love dat der white flood and also dat der vasocharge

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i love dat der white flood and also dat der vasocharge

thanks, white flood is also a great value at 50 workouts per tub

[devo09]

thanks, white flood is also a great value at 50 workouts per tub

No prob, I like that there isn't any dextrose added or anything. Too many supp companies add a bunch of carbs, so of course they're going to give you a great "pump"

[gainmusclefast]

animal pump

[GluteusMaximus]

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[jeremyleinen]

I just started Cryoshock, and I'm extremely impressed.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

No prob, I like that there isn't any dextrose added or anything. Too many supp companies add a bunch of carbs, so of course they're going to give you a great "pump"

absolutely, all of our product to date have been sugar free

[adam200]

just started on white flood as of yesterday, been good. is it okay 2 take at like 6pm at nite??? wont affect ur sleep or anything???

[CONTROLLED LABS]

just started on white flood as of yesterday, been good. is it okay 2 take at like 6pm at nite??? wont affect ur sleep or anything???

only if you are going to sleep at 11-12 or later

[MoMu]

VasoCharge by Scivation ALL THE WAY. prob the best prework out sup. i have tried. beats NO xplode and superpump by far i believe. best work out and greatest amount of energy from this one.

[Cotton06]

NaNo Vapor is definitely the best product out. i haven't tried very many but i don't really want to. i'm so focused when i use it. 2 thumbs up.

i used NaNo Vapor for about 2 months then it started to make me sick during my workouts. It was good for a while. Im using No Xplode and it doesnt make me sick and gives me the same pump if not better.

[TriednTrue]

Seems like I've tried just about every pre workout drink available, between making my stomach sick and others giving me a jolt of energy for 30 min then having an awful come down I was basically over taking them, got recommended the CL white flood and haven't switched since and never will. This stuff is absolutely amazing and at the end of my workouts i wanna just keep on pushin and not want to stop lifting, lol. Currently stacking the WF with purple wraath, and green mag, and am getting unbelievable results, just loving these products!
-Nate

[lanehle]

I've been using Dymatize Expand for several months and had great results.
After reading this post I purchased a couple jugs of NO Explode.
Been using it for almost 2 weeks and I'm not feeling getting anything out of it.
I don't think NO Explode is for me.

[TriednTrue]

Check out the CL white flood brotha, you'll for sure not be disappointed, great stuff

[heisman53]

ima have to try it out!

[TriednTrue]

Keep me posted on what you think

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Seems like I've tried just about every pre workout drink available, between making my stomach sick and others giving me a jolt of energy for 30 min then having an awful come down I was basically over taking them, got recommended the CL white flood and haven't switched since and never will. This stuff is absolutely amazing and at the end of my workouts i wanna just keep on pushin and not want to stop lifting, lol. Currently stacking the WF with purple wraath, and green mag, and am getting unbelievable results, just loving these products!
-Nate

that is an awesome stack, which flavors have you gone with? keep a log if you have the time :)

[megamonster]

Vendetta by Xtreme Formulations. I rarely train over 4 reps so no need for a pump product, but energy wise, this is the way to go.

[TSPtexas]

I've been on nanovapor twice now and it really did the trick for me, great pumps more focus and 10x better workouts.

Right now I'm on Black Powder, and i can tell it doesnt give me the same strength or focus that i had on nano it just doesnt seem nearly as good...soooo

i just ordered some white flood like a bunch of you a few days ago and im really excited to try it out

[Warneckutz]

I've been on nanovapor twice now and it really did the trick for me, great pumps more focus and 10x better workouts.

Right now I'm on Black Powder, and i can tell it doesnt give me the same strength or focus that i had on nano it just doesnt seem nearly as good...soooo

i just ordered some white flood like a bunch of you a few days ago and im really excited to try it out

Personally, I think you will like the White Flood over the NaNO Vapor. I've tried both and the NaNO Vapor seemed like it worked OK for me at first but I quickly grew a strong tolerance to it (4 scoops or so to generate the same effect). I've never had to use more than 2 scoops of White Flood and I took a break for about a week and I only need 1 scoop at the moment to feel it working.

Good luck with it all!

-Ant

[Christo]

NO Shotgun without a doubt!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've been on nanovapor twice now and it really did the trick for me, great pumps more focus and 10x better workouts.

Right now I'm on Black Powder, and i can tell it doesnt give me the same strength or focus that i had on nano it just doesnt seem nearly as good...soooo

i just ordered some white flood like a bunch of you a few days ago and im really excited to try it out
I am excited you are giving white flood a try, keep us posted on your results :)


Personally, I think you will like the White Flood over the NaNO Vapor. I've tried both and the NaNO Vapor seemed like it worked OK for me at first but I quickly grew a strong tolerance to it (4 scoops or so to generate the same effect). I've never had to use more than 2 scoops of White Flood and I took a break for about a week and I only need 1 scoop at the moment to feel it working.

Good luck with it all!

-Ant
I havent seen a formula that can match white flood for a combo of price and effectiveness myself ;)

[N01SYtZ]

Even though I've only tried Super Pump 250... I feel its the best one for me I get great pumps everytime I take it etc. It works great in my opinion.

[itsgroll]

previously i have been on no xplode. loved it before they changed to that avpt crap. im currently trying nano vapor. next will be the purple wrath. once i had tried all three i will get back to you on the results

[tylerg]

i started out a couple years ago on NO Explode and it was great, but eventually I didnt get much from it. So i trien Vapor and it was pretty good, just taste bad. Then for the last year I havn't stopped using SuperPump 250. It's by far the best I've tried. How does it compare to the White Flood and who makes it? Are these pre workout sups really bad for the heart?

[akamm]

taste is a little off, but works great...big jolt of energy! great pumps and no crash....

[gatorman2k6]

Well I just got done with my first workout with White Flood and Green Mag and I am hooked. Unlike No-xplode, there was no crash or jittery feelings. I also didn't get the tingle that some get in the face. Overall, I am very impressed and all I have to say is believe the hype. The one thing I have to figure out now is how much water I want to mix it with to get the right taste. Today it didn't taste as well as no-xplode, but I believe it has the potential to based on the water amount. Hope this helps someone decide on their pre-workout supplement.

[freedonutss]

Loving the animal pump. It gives a consistent pump throughout your whole workout.

[Douglar02]

I was a NO Explode user for like 2 years.. then switched to some green apple ****.. sucked.. Nano killed my stomach.. then back to splode.. then finally switched to SAN Fierce and its amazing.. However, i want to keep trying new supps so i think i might go with White Flood but not to sure.. i didnt see any creatine in there? I think i have to stack with green mag?

[Z06dude]

I've tried NO Explode, Plasma Core, Superpump and White flood and White Flood is by far the best out of all the ones I've tried. Superpump was good and the other two didn't really do anything for me.

[RandallH19891]

The first one I ever tried was N.O. Plasmacore.. The first time I used it, it was the craziest high i've ever felt. After that, the effects started to taper off. Not to mention, it tasted like ****. Very hard to get down, and i'm definitely not one to be picky about supplement taste.

Now i'm using SuperPump250 and I love it. Great pumps and energy every time, and Blue Raspberry Ice is delicious. I want to eventually try White Flood as well.

[tann5000]

I'm a little confused here. I'm seriously considering buying GreenMag, White Flood and Purple Wrath but I just wanna know the best times to take each of them(pre and post WO) and whether or not I have to take any on an empty stomach or mix them together or with a protein shake.

Thanks for any help.

[Douglar02]

I'm a little confused here. I'm seriously considering buying GreenMag, White Flood and Purple Wrath but I just wanna know the best times to take each of them(pre and post WO) and whether or not I have to take any on an empty stomach or mix them together or with a protein shake.

Thanks for any help.


Well i use purple wraath and its says pre, intra, and post. so thats what i do. I believe you take white flood pre, and then mag pre&post...

im sure the controlled labs guy will answer your question if im wrong tho haha

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've tried NO Explode, Plasma Core, Superpump and White flood and White Flood is by far the best out of all the ones I've tried. Superpump was good and the other two didn't really do anything for me.glad to hear it :)


I was a NO Explode user for like 2 years.. then switched to some green apple ****.. sucked.. Nano killed my stomach.. then back to splode.. then finally switched to SAN Fierce and its amazing.. However, i want to keep trying new supps so i think i might go with White Flood but not to sure.. i didnt see any creatine in there? I think i have to stack with green mag?




The first one I ever tried was N.O. Plasmacore.. The first time I used it, it was the craziest high i've ever felt. After that, the effects started to taper off. Not to mention, it tasted like ****. Very hard to get down, and i'm definitely not one to be picky about supplement taste.

Now i'm using SuperPump250 and I love it. Great pumps and energy every time, and Blue Raspberry Ice is delicious. I want to eventually try White Flood as well.
you guys will love white flood and so will your wallet ;)

[naturalguy]

Loving the animal pump. It gives a consistent pump throughout your whole workout.

Glad you like it. The feedback we get on it is amazing:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=902775&highlight=Animal+Pump+is+amazing

One of the best things about it is that you don't have to buy a separate creatine as Animal Pump has a full dose, so you save money too.

[harvillionare]

I have tried no xplode, superpump, fusion force, and white flood. Once i tried White flood i havent even thought about changing. cant beat the energy, focus, and pump.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have tried no xplode, superpump, fusion force, and white flood. Once i tried White flood i havent even thought about changing. cant beat the energy, focus, and pump.

thanks for your loyalty. so many people jump from product to product every month. I say try out a bunch and stick with the one that works best for you :)

[T.Vo]

Lately I've been taking two primed ultra caps and one amp cap, and so far that combo has worked better for me than no xplode, no shotgun, nano vapor, and a couple others ive used. ANd you dont have to down any foamy drink since they are capsules. check my bodyblogs for more details about it

[Douglar02]

glad to hear it :)






you guys will love white flood and so will your wallet ;)


Just ordered some WF.. I think i will pick up GM at a local vitamin shopp tho.. forgot to order creatine with it lol

[Asinthminded]

So far I've only tried the N.O. Xplode. 2 scoups were doing a number on my stomach so I was advised to cut down to one. I only take it pre work out. I've been told its some thing I can (or should) take every day? It looks like I might try WF next. Right now I mix 1 scoup of NO Xplode with 2 scoups of Xtends. Thats my pre drink.

[dheepakh]

hi guys! if u r running out of money then dont try all those stacks like bsn no xplode. just get a higher power creatine ethyl ester and higher power aakg powder. this is the cheapest creatine and nitric oxide supplement in the market. it also gave me enormous gains. don't forget to have a serving of whey protein before workout.take either optimum whey or dymatize elite whey if u have less money. but if u have the money then go for optimum pro complex. good luck guys!

[code3gt]

1. Super Pump 250 Blue Raspberry tastes awesome and I had great results but having the runs afterward was brutal... tried eating and no help....

2. Animal Pump was priced great and I had very good results + no squirts....

3. No-Xplode (berry)was similar to SP250 without the side effect

4. VPX NO-Shotgun tastes nasty (chemical pear juice) and has a bad aftertaste, but it works awesome.

Xyience NOXCG3 was the weakest of the group company will be out of business soon...

I have to say for the price and results, Animal Pump is the best value.

I am going to try either Vasocharge or White Flood next.... I like CL's Purple Wraath lemonade but not the after taste....guessing it's the sucralose.


Which is better Vasocharge or White Flood?/ Thanks

[itsgroll]

well i have tried nano vapor now for a week and i feel it takes way to long to kick in. unlike noxplode i have to take this stuff 20-30min prior to lifting. but...it does do the trick, i get a great pump and it elevates my HR fairly high. next month i will be trying some control lab products. im excited for i have herd good things but never tried any of them.

[alleyesonme907]

jus ordered some white flood from hearing all these great reviews i was sold, while i was at it ordered some ON whey protein and some aminal pak..cant wait to try this stuff out!
thanks fellas
-Tony

[AMillane7]

imo WF tastes worse than PW

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Which is better Vasocharge or White Flood?/ Thanks
you cant go wrong with white flood, you also get 50 workouts at full dose per tub at a great price :eek:

well i have tried nano vapor now for a week and i feel it takes way to long to kick in. unlike noxplode i have to take this stuff 20-30min prior to lifting. but...it does do the trick, i get a great pump and it elevates my HR fairly high. next month i will be trying some control lab products. im excited for i have herd good things but never tried any of them.
thanks for giving us a shot :)

jus ordered some white flood from hearing all these great reviews i was sold, while i was at it ordered some ON whey protein and some aminal pak..cant wait to try this stuff out!
thanks fellas
-Tony


Just ordered some WF.. I think i will pick up GM at a local vitamin shopp tho.. forgot to order creatine with it lol
sounds great guys, keep us posted

[Brandon Dennis]

no explode is good for energy but not good pumps and u get use to it easy
no shotgun, superpump 250, and vyotech nitrobolic extreme are good for pumps but my favorite is nitrobolic extreme because it taste good and pumps are insane

[RonShipman]

Shock Therapy


2.31 Lbs. Grape Splash
Supplement Facts
Serving Size1Scoop(~21g)
Servings Per Container50

Amount Per Serving % DV

Calories 36
Total Carbohydrates 9g 3%*
Dietary Fiber 2g 8%*
Sugars 0g **
Vitamin C(as Ascorbic Acid) 200mg 333%
Niacin(as Niacinamide) 10mg 50%
Vitamin B6(as Pyridoxine HCL) 10mg 500%
Vitamin B12(as Cyanocobalamin) 100mcg 1,667%
Selenium(as Sodium Selenate) 70mcg 100%
Sodium(as Sodium Bicarbonate And Trisodium Phosphate) 120mg 5%*
Potassium(as Potassium Phosphate) 58mg 2%

Shock Therapy? Proprietary Formula 20g

NO Super Pump Complex

Arginine AKG **
Citrulline Malate **
L-Carnosine **

Muscle Volumizing Complex

Tricreatine Matrix(TCM)(Creatine Gluconate, Creatine Orotate, Creatine AKG)
Betaine Anhydrous **
Beta Alanine **
NAD (Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide) **

Energy & Nootropic Complex

L-Taurine **
Choline Bitartrate **
S-Methylxanthine Complex? (Caffeine, Theobromine, Theophylline) **
L-Tyrosine **
Yerba Mate **
Evodiamine **
Vinpocetine **

Antioxidant Complex

Green Tea Extract (Standardized For 60% EGCG) **
R-ALA (R-Alpha Lipoic Acid) **
NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine) **
Grapeseed Extract (Standardized For 95% Polyphenols) **

Electrolyte & PH Delivery Complex

Inulin **
Sodium Bicarbonate **
Potassium Phosphate **
Magnesium Phosphate **
Trisodium Phosphate **

* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
** Daily Value (DV) not established

Other Ingredients
Maltodextrin, Natural And Artificial Flavors, 5-Methylxanthine Complex? (Consisting Of Standardized Kola Nut And Guarana Extracts), Silicon Dioxide, Sucralose, Acesulfame-K, Red #40 Lake, FD&C Blue #1



Directions: Add 1 scoop to 8-10 ounces of cold liquid. Take one serving 30 minutes pre-workout.

[eclipse06r]

has any one ever tried plasma jet? its in a pill form...

[doush]

well im currently on
Animal PAK + PUMP stak and feel great..

Especially pump is giving me great pumps and vascularity. Will never change it.
And also the best thing I love about it is the red pill that you may not take it if you are pushing the iron night time.

[rschloe]

i tried black powder, nano vapor, n.o. plasmacore, superpump250. and i would rate them in that order.....but my brother likes superpump250, nano vapor, black powder, then n.o. plasmacore...so guess that shows how nobody is the same

yea my favorites are n.o. explode and black powder...i just get black powder since its a bit cheaper cuz i feel they have the same quality

[parente]

has anyone tried ragnarok? by millenium sports i heard its pretty good but what do you guys think? right no im on no shotgun and its doin real nice taste isnt that bad its the new formula and i like the pumps

[txboy5]

I am currently taking on my first tub of Ragnarok and I have nothing but positive things to say about it. I was contemplating to give it a try and i am glad that I did.... I have not tried NO shotgun so I cant say that its better than it but I know its bada$$

[md0n]

I've been using white flood for a few of weeks now and I don't think its working. I take the full dose and I don't feel anything special. I've tried taking it 1/2 hour before workout, few minutes before workout and during workout, and everytime I didn't really feel anything. I don't know if my body is tolerant to it or what?

[superman9169]

I workout late at night so all the caffiene thats in the powders mess up my sleep patterns. I was just turned on to ZENITH for Pre Workout and Chain for post workout by Reaction Nutrition. They are liquid caps and have a nice combo of your basics. Great pumps and my recovery is actually better than I expected. Nice line in general I have my girlfriend on the VOODOO.

[naturalguy]

well im currently on
Animal PAK + PUMP stak and feel great..

Especially pump is giving me great pumps and vascularity. Will never change it.
And also the best thing I love about it is the red pill that you may not take it if you are pushing the iron night time.

Thats one of the great things about Animal Pump that you have the option of taking the stims or leaving them out, Pump is the only product with that feature.

[SPACECLOWN]

There is caffeinated and non-caffeinated Ragnarok for those that prefer powders. If you are a pill person that Animal Pump all the way.

[FlyingV]

If you want some serious pre-workout energy try LaBrada Super Charge. I have gone through 2 cans with no regrets. The only downside is that I seemed to develop a tolerence for the stuff and had to take more to get the same effect.


Right, I've also found that to be the case with Super Charge and most other preworkout supplements I've tried, which is a ****load, since I get them for free or at cost. That's one reason why I used to think there was no permanent best product for preworkout. I had to rotate them around to get consistent results.

Well, never say never, but for many months now, since about last January, I have been using H+ Blocker which was then and is now the absolute best one I have ever tried and am still using. iSatori's literature and marketing for the product, great as they are, didn't convince me, but the results did. Even my gf, who is like the 'Life Cereal Mikey' of supplements (she wont take it, she hates everything) has had to concede that it really takes a workout higher.

My impression of the H, and the reason I like it, is that it doesnt have strong central nervous system effects, there is no caffeine edginess or tweaky feeling. Nor is it oriented towards an NO muscle pump, which I'm not really interested in since those products cramp the hell out of my forearms when I try to lift heavy, esp on back day. What it does do is to liberate a lot of power and strength while delaying the onset of fatigue both within individual sets and over the course of the workout as a whole. It's funny, I really don't feel much from the H+ Blocker were I to stand there and try to describe it to you, its benefits to me are what I don't feel, I don't fatigue anywhere near as easy, I don't feel wired out and I don't lose mental focus or a sense of momentum in the 2nd half of the workout.

**For the record, I dont work for these guys (iSatori) in any way shape of form,
and with all the stuff I do get or can get for free, I am glad to fork over the ~ 40 bucks for a tub of HB.

[sooartist]

no one mentions musle asylum no plasmacore is it not relevant

[headinahole]

White Flood

[CONTROLLED LABS]

White Flood

short and sweet :)

[Chris_26]

I've only tried 2 pre-workout supps: NO-Xplode and White Flood. NO-Xplode was great for about 2 weeks...the rest of the jug was fairly worthless. White Flood is ridiculous, and by ridiculous I mean awesome. I get a tingling sensation throughout my entire body when I take it that lasts for 5-10 minutes, but the pump, the energy, and the focus that it gives lasts for hours.

I'm military pilot, and I've actually taken White Flood before a flight a couple of times when I was low on energy and the results were amazing.

[md0n]

why am I not seeing the same results as you guys with white flood?
As I posted before it does nothing to me, no extra energy, no pump, no tingling sensation.

[headinahole]

I've only tried 2 pre-workout supps: NO-Xplode and White Flood. NO-Xplode was great for about 2 weeks...the rest of the jug was fairly worthless. White Flood is ridiculous, and by ridiculous I mean awesome. I get a tingling sensation throughout my entire body when I take it that lasts for 5-10 minutes, but the pump, the energy, and the focus that it gives lasts for hours.

I'm military pilot, and I've actually taken White Flood before a flight a couple of times when I was low on energy and the results were amazing.

I had the same exact experience, found myself using 3 scoops towards the end of the tub (made it last less than a month). The taste was god awful and the energy gave me severe a.d.d. like symptoms. As for the energy drink idea, I do the same but with 1 scoop PW in 28oz water, really helps fuel my tank at work on the 100+ temp days.

[andrewyoung88]

what do you suggest using for a post-workout while stacking white flood with green Magnitude???? another creatine??? something else maybee????

[JTFisher79]

what do you suggest using for a post-workout while stacking white flood with green Magnitude???? another creatine??? something else maybee????

I would use universal torrent

[andrewyoung88]

thats pretty much the same type of product as the nitro-tech hardcore right?

[JTFisher79]

no nitro-tech is a protein supplement

[andrewyoung88]

Is it possible to use greenMAG as a pre and post? (combining WF as the pre)
would it even do much....

[ILPump]

SP250 or the new N.O. Shotgun V.3...

[headinahole]

Is it possible to use greenMAG as a pre and post? (combining WF as the pre)
would it even do much....

There is no reason to take it more than once a day, all the magnesium would most likely keep you running to the john as well.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I've only tried 2 pre-workout supps: NO-Xplode and White Flood. NO-Xplode was great for about 2 weeks...the rest of the jug was fairly worthless. White Flood is ridiculous, and by ridiculous I mean awesome. I get a tingling sensation throughout my entire body when I take it that lasts for 5-10 minutes, but the pump, the energy, and the focus that it gives lasts for hours.

I'm military pilot, and I've actually taken White Flood before a flight a couple of times when I was low on energy and the results were amazing.
Awesome to hear, thanks :)

what do you suggest using for a post-workout while stacking white flood with green Magnitude???? another creatine??? something else maybee????
golden finish for sure. you dont need a postworkout shake with creatine in it as you already get plenty with green magnitude :)

Is it possible to use greenMAG as a pre and post? (combining WF as the pre)
would it even do much....

sure, if you want to take a half scoop pre and post, but its suggested to do 1 scoop pre.

[britonarius]

i posted here before - but just recently had the pleasure of trying both nuclear garbage and garbage [ both by garbage] - got to say - they leave everything i tried except armgeddon and evolution X10 in the shade.Got to say they are incredible!

[naturalguy]

I would use universal torrent

Torrent is an excellent choice, the formula is stellar.

Torrent will save you money also, it has 3 grms of creatine in it so if you have a creatine product you can 1/2 dose it pre workout and off days so it will last longer, win-win situation for the consumer :)

[andrewyoung88]

golden finish or torrent as a post????? taste wise...

[CONTROLLED LABS]

golden finish or torrent as a post????? taste wise...

get a free sample of each and decide on your own :)

[naturalguy]

golden finish or torrent as a post????? taste wise...

Torrent comes in 2 great flavors, the real question is original Cherry Berry Blast or new Green Apple Avalanche :)

[hometownhero08]

Hey, has anyone here tried the new NO Shotgun yet? I got a tub of v2 and could barely finish it cause it tasted so bad, but the ingredient profile looked very good. I was thinking about getting V3 but I wanna know what someone who's already tried it thought about it.

[Marine77]

NO Shotgun hands down. I have been taking it for about 5 months and still have not built a tolerance for it. The pumps and focus are above anything else i have tried.

[bulidinmuscle22]

Yeah NaNO Vapor for me is the way to go. The energy it supllies with me is the perfect amount and it keeps me focused

[Webber91]

Water.

[andrewyoung88]

Witch one do you guys prefer? also, any stomach issues with ether??

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Witch one do you guys prefer? also, any stomach issues with ether??

50 workouts per tub with white flood and great feedback on its effects :)

[Brjohn]

SuperPump 250 Fruit Punch.

Great pump

[tmaxx123]

I have been using NaNo Vapor and Black Powder interchangeably, and like them both.
I tried Animal Pump sample and had to say that it was one of my best work outs ever. But the only thing is i wish i didnt have to take the 7 pills (iirc?) that you have to ... not a big deal just if it was a powder....wow i would be all over it

[naturalguy]

I have been using NaNo Vapor and Black Powder interchangeably, and like them both.
I tried Animal Pump sample and had to say that it was one of my best work outs ever. But the only thing is i wish i didnt have to take the 7 pills (iirc?) that you have to ... not a big deal just if it was a powder....wow i would be all over it

Glad you like the Animal Pump, the product delivers.

[bthornsb]

I liked Super Pump. The Nano Vapor seems to make my stomach upset. Does any one lesl have this problem?

[thechampion6666]

XPAND

Have used it for a year it absolutely kills NO XPLODE and NO SHotgun IMO. Had some great gains with xpand and it tastes like candy

[Sweat1217]

White Flood is the ****! I took No-XPlode and this stuff is like night and day with that. White Flood is cheaper and more productive.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

White Flood is the ****! I took No-XPlode and this stuff is like night and day with that. White Flood is cheaper and more productive.

glad you feel that way, 50 workouts per tub is a killer deal for the white flood :)

[greensquats]

glad you feel that way, 50 workouts per tub is a killer deal for the white flood :)

Except that for me, since it works so well, I get a lot more than 50. Gosh I love that stuff.

[headinahole]

Except that for me, since it works so well, I get a lot more than 50. Gosh I love that stuff.

Word, I am just about 1/2 way through my tub and it's already been a month at 5-6 scoops a week.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Except that for me, since it works so well, I get a lot more than 50. Gosh I love that stuff.


Word, I am just about 1/2 way through my tub and it's already been a month at 5-6 scoops a week.
strong value ftw :)

[Dude.Jon]

I tried Black Powder, NO Shotgun, NO Xplode and T3.

My fav is NO Shotgun because it gives me ridiculous pumps. Everytime I work out it feels like I'm having the biggest pump yet. Today it felt like my muscles were constantly being inflated. It feels like that everytime. It's a damn good product, my favorite pre-workout supplement.

[barjenbruch]

I would say NO Explode as sadly trendy as it sounds. I liked it more than No Vapor because of the taste of Vapor and more than Animal Pump simply because you only take a single packet and you get used to it quick doubling that dosage could be risky. So i stick to the powder and NO Explode has worked the best thus far.

[TheInfamousNate]

Controled Labs ~ White flood
San ~ Fierce



FTW

[Jack.Bauer]

Can I get some recommendations for me?

I am more of a beginner (definitely) but at the same time, if I'm going to do the work, I do want maximum benefit for it.

So for the last month I have been using SuperPump250 and SizeOn.

Like one other person on this thread - SP250 gave me a hemorrhoid. Really! Not fun. It's gone away on its own after being off SP250 for a week. I don't think it is related to BM quantity but to what it probably does to blood vessels?

Anyway - I do have some SizeOn left, as I'm not taking it every day.

I'm just wondering what might be a safe pre-WO supplement to stack with it, with no risk of what SP250 did for me.

I have to give credit though - my last WO without SP250, I was a LOT less motivated and my 3rd bench set didn't go nearly as well as the previous training day.

[CallMeSuperman]

I am going to have to go with White Flood, that stuff is liquid crack. The pump is InSaNe!!!

[saiyanj1n]

Red blast is by far the best pump supplement i have ever used. i have used quite a few too, throughout my 6 years in weight lifting. If you havent tried it, give it a try!

[Jack.Bauer]

50 workouts per tub with white flood and great feedback on its effects :)

How much feedback have you gotten, if any, on intestinal issues?

There was a ton of feedback on SP250, I tried it - and yeah the intestinal issues the next day were there, they were predictable at least. The part I could not stand is, well, what I posted a few posts above. :) Fully recovered now that I've been off SP250 for a week.

[britonarius]

Got to say that i tried super pump 250 and size on - no intestional issues but i got the same effect from using Gator whey as i did from those 2 jokers! only difference is Gator whey is about 19 bucks a tub - used it in work - gave a good pump though it is not marketed for that! white Flood - never tried - though i am adding it to my hit list due to this thread. Animal pump - good to start with but shortlived or what! Got to list the Garbage duo - Nuclear and Garbage - the Star labs duo - Armegeddon and Evolution X10 as real good pump / work out supps. Recently tried Anabolic O.D by MAP - now that is wicked gear.Kind of wish that everything Universal did was not designed for horses - the size of those pills is beyond.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

How much feedback have you gotten, if any, on intestinal issues?

There was a ton of feedback on SP250, I tried it - and yeah the intestinal issues the next day were there, they were predictable at least. The part I could not stand is, well, what I posted a few posts above. :) Fully recovered now that I've been off SP250 for a week.
havent seen any complaints about stomach issues on it. search the section and see if you can find anything.

Got to say that i tried super pump 250 and size on - no intestional issues but i got the same effect from using Gator whey as i did from those 2 jokers! only difference is Gator whey is about 19 bucks a tub - used it in work - gave a good pump though it is not marketed for that! white Flood - never tried - though i am adding it to my hit list due to this thread. Animal pump - good to start with but shortlived or what! Got to list the Garbage duo - Nuclear and Garbage - the Star labs duo - Armegeddon and Evolution X10 as real good pump / work out supps. Recently tried Anabolic O.D by MAP - now that is wicked gear.Kind of wish that everything Universal did was not designed for horses - the size of those pills is beyond.
thanks for giving white flood a shot, we would be very interested to hear your feedback when it comes time

[SuperChuck33]

NaNo Vapor is definitely the best product out. i haven't tried very many but i don't really want to. i'm so focused when i use it. 2 thumbs up.

yea, that stuff gives you INSANE pump, but i had the worst side effects from it than any other supplement i took.... i had to stay completely still after workouts or i would puke and/or black out

Muscle Asylum N.O. Plasmacore is the bomb, it works just as well (if not better than) NaNOVapor with little to no nausea

I feel it almost as soon as i ingest the stuff and you can see the difference in your body as you lift

[jinchoy]

No Shotgun for me
http://www.sizoggun.info/bb.jpg
http://www.gogoplat.com/gon.jpg

[B-McD]

I'm kind of surprised there's as many guys on here that advocate using SP250, it tore me up! I wasn't sure if it was just my stomach, but the 3 guys I typically lift with had the same problem.
I've gone through a couple tubs of NO-Xplode and, like everyone else, got a tolerance in a big hurry.
Tried Black Powder, it wasn't bad... the flavor wasn't my favorite, but it was fine.

My favorite is White Flood so far, great product from top to bottom.

Note: Haven't tried NO Shotgun, but I will soon.

[traviseli]

Ive tried NoXplode,black powder, and nano vapor....i only really liked the black powder. other 2 gave me nausea. But isatoris Morph and H-Blocker are the best pre workout supps ive ever tried by far...

Morph
# Serving Size 3Tablet
# Servings Per Container 60
# Carnostim-X?(Instant Type IIx Muscle Fiber Activator) 613.26mg
# Hydro-PUMP?(Continuous Plasma And Blood Expander) 1,300mg
# Prosyntha-Rx?(Fast-Acting Muscle Cell Regenerator) 1,250mg

H-Blocker
Serving Size: 1 Scoop
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving
Calories 50
Calories from fat 0
Total Fat 0g
Saturated Fat 0g
Cholestrol 0g
Sodium 80mg
Total Carbohydrates 12.5
Dietary Fiber 0g
Sugars 12.5g
Protein 0g
Vitamin B6 263%
Magnesium 59%
Proprietary Blend 5.158g
Beta-alanine
Citrulline malate
Aspartic acid
L-Histidine
Magnesium
Natural Caffeine
Chloride
Zinc
Vitamin B6

[CONTROLLED LABS]

My favorite is White Flood so far, great product from top to bottom.



thanks for your support. did you get the large or small tub ?

[thehulk50]

i 2nd White Flood, sweet product, gives me the extra energy i need to make it through workouts even on days i feel like i dont want to finish the workout, my fav. CL product

[kingkole02]

Cup of Coffee, serious

[Ebdoosh]

Tried No Explode for a month - it gave me some energy & pump
Tried Animal Pax - I hardly seen any effect
Tried White Flood - The best- gives me energy & pump. Also gives me focus.

[Big_Jewels]

Favourite = VPX No Shotgun vp3
20 minutes after taking this product no matter what state I am before the workout my muscles start to fill with blood and my energy levels sky rocket , I feel as if I can lift a house. I go through an entire work out with unreal pumps , and mind to muscle connection like i've never had before, I can lift more weight for more reps as well. The pumps actually last a while after the work out and I do not come down to a lethargic state afterward. I also like how it supplies the proper nutrients to the muscles to help them from going into a state of atrophy and the ones to help hypertrophy. Also after 2 weeks of taking it , it hasnt had any change in effect it still works as potent as the first day. I'd Recommend this product looking for overall energy , mind blowing muscle pumps and a true to the word product.

[J.O.B.]

white flood seems a like a simple sup but seems like it can compasre 2 my favorites my boy jst got some n gonna give it a try

[J.O.B.]

xlevol has that van sul;fate

[seanf76]

I have used Eightball Nutritions Herculin and got a good amount of energy and pump when I combined it with Waxy Maize
On its own it worked good for 2 weeks then I saw a slow decline in the effects


Right now I just started WTF Pump'd by ALR Industries so I will post the effects of that in a week or so I am running a log on it with the fat loss system by ALR in the unsponsored log section

And after reading all of the replys here looks like I will be trying out White Flood next

[Micah123]

I have tried the following pre workout supps, here is #1 - 3

#1 White flood! Nothing compares to the energy and focus. tastes rank tho.

#2 SuperPump250 - Not bad, better tasting that white flood but not as great.

#3 No Explode - Failz.

[z3220235]

im using No-xplode for the first time, and I'd give it two thumbs up

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i 2nd White Flood, sweet product, gives me the extra energy i need to make it through workouts even on days i feel like i dont want to finish the workout, my fav. CL product


Tried No Explode for a month - it gave me some energy & pump
Tried Animal Pax - I hardly seen any effect
Tried White Flood - The best- gives me energy & pump. Also gives me focus.



I have tried the following pre workout supps, here is #1 - 3

#1 White flood! Nothing compares to the energy and focus. tastes rank tho.

#2 SuperPump250 - Not bad, better tasting that white flood but not as great.

#3 No Explode - Failz.

wow, glad all of you love white flood so much. thanks for your support :)


I have used Eightball Nutritions Herculin and got a good amount of energy and pump when I combined it with Waxy Maize
On its own it worked good for 2 weeks then I saw a slow decline in the effects


Right now I just started WTF Pump'd by ALR Industries so I will post the effects of that in a week or so I am running a log on it with the fat loss system by ALR in the unsponsored log section

And after reading all of the replys here looks like I will be trying out White Flood next


white flood seems a like a simple sup but seems like it can compasre 2 my favorites my boy jst got some n gonna give it a try

you guys will love white flood, thanks for giving it a shot :)

[IronButt]

again ragnarok is my favourite pre workout energy/pump supplement

i will try white flood next time

[NCK MIZ]

im using No-xplode for the first time, and I'd give it two thumbs up

wait a couple weeks.. the pump and the energy from this supplement wear off very quickly.

I have not tried many preworkout supps. because of the cost and the fact that you can just use some caffeine and arginine ethyl ester for the same effect. the two I have tried are Scivation's Vasocharge and BSN's NO-Xplode and I would put Vasocharge way above NO-Xplode. I am interested in trying CL's White Flood, so I might purchase that next go round, especially as my energy levels deplete the closer I get to my competition.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

again ragnarok is my favourite pre workout energy/pump supplement

i will try white flood next time


wait a couple weeks.. the pump and the energy from this supplement wear off very quickly.

I have not tried many preworkout supps. because of the cost and the fact that you can just use some caffeine and arginine ethyl ester for the same effect. the two I have tried are Scivation's Vasocharge and BSN's NO-Xplode and I would put Vasocharge way above NO-Xplode. I am interested in trying CL's White Flood, so I might purchase that next go round, especially as my energy levels deplete the closer I get to my competition.
glad you guys are giving white flood a shot, you wont be disappointed :)

[kimchupa]

If you are to choose just one between Purple Wraath and White Flood?

seems that WF is a pre workout and PW is intraworkout
if you had to choose one of these two which would you choose?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

If you are to choose just one between Purple Wraath and White Flood?

seems that WF is a pre workout and PW is intraworkout
if you had to choose one of these two which would you choose?

what are your goals and what do you want from the product?

[Big_Jewels]

I think I will cycle in white flood after the bottle of no shotgun is done you guys made me want to jump on the wagon ! my pockets are mad but my muscles say thanks !

[Celtics34]

I have tried NO Xplode, MRI Black Powder, Superpump 250 none of them compare to the pumps i have been getting while using Animal Pump.

My first time using Animal Pump i did arms and when i left that gym i really had the hardest time driving home on how much my arms were pumped n sore. One of the best workouts ive ever had. And it just gets better.


Animal pump is a great product

[tann5000]

Only one I've tried is White Flood, but it works amazing for me and the consensus seems to be that it gives the best results and it works for everyone else too so I see no reason to try others. Will be ordering a large tub as soon as my small one starts to run low.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I think I will cycle in white flood after the bottle of no shotgun is done you guys made me want to jump on the wagon ! my pockets are mad but my muscles say thanks !
you will love the white flood, the feedback speaks loud and clear :)

Only one I've tried is White Flood, but it works amazing for me and the consensus seems to be that it gives the best results and it works for everyone else too so I see no reason to try others. Will be ordering a large tub as soon as my small one starts to run low.

awesome, thanks for your testimonial :)

[tann5000]

No problem. Just keep making kick ass products. ;)

[wada]

Personally, I think you will like the White Flood over the NaNO Vapor. I've tried both and the NaNO Vapor seemed like it worked OK for me at first but I quickly grew a strong tolerance to it (4 scoops or so to generate the same effect). I've never had to use more than 2 scoops of White Flood and I took a break for about a week and I only need 1 scoop at the moment to feel it working.

Good luck with it all!

-Ant


I've tried NO Explode, Plasma Core, Superpump and White flood and White Flood is by far the best out of all the ones I've tried. Superpump was good and the other two didn't really do anything for me.


I have tried no xplode, superpump, fusion force, and white flood. Once i tried White flood i havent even thought about changing. cant beat the energy, focus, and pump.

I was debating on Nano Vapor..as I just finished a bottle, wasn't bad, good energy...but freakin expensive...
I've been happy w/ CL products in the past (currently on GM, PW, GF...) now You guys have got me convinced...my next order will be WF!
Also jsut for some input:
SP250 was my fav for a while..but now i just dun get the same effect...sometimes i get the runs.
Tried the sample packet of CMI: not bad stuff...had an awesome chest day...

[JTFisher79]

Well I have started my flood/mag.wraath combo this week. I have to say this is the best i have ever felt. I drink 2 scoops of white flood mixed with one scoop of green mag pre-work out. Then 2 scoops of purple wraath during my workout. Then after I take torrent. This is all stacked with animal test. This is the first pre- workout supplement stack where I have felt the pumps everywhere that I was working. The whole body is pumped but the areas I am targeting are even more so. I can tell because as I workout my shirt gets tighter. Not only are the pumps great but the energy to complete a workout is phenomenal. I feel just as strong on my last exercise as I do on my first. No need for long recovery times. The only downside is that I am able to workout so much harder that I am crazy sore. I highly recommend these products. Love that tingly feeling.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

No problem. Just keep making kick ass products. ;)
we promise we will :)

I was debating on Nano Vapor..as I just finished a bottle, wasn't bad, good energy...but freakin expensive...
I've been happy w/ CL products in the past (currently on GM, PW, GF...) now You guys have got me convinced...my next order will be WF!
Also jsut for some input:
SP250 was my fav for a while..but now i just dun get the same effect...sometimes i get the runs.
Tried the sample packet of CMI: not bad stuff...had an awesome chest day...you will love white flood, thanks for giving it a shot :)


Well I have started my flood/mag.wraath combo this week. I have to say this is the best i have ever felt. I drink 2 scoops of white flood mixed with one scoop of green mag pre-work out. Then 2 scoops of purple wraath during my workout. Then after I take torrent. This is all stacked with animal test. This is the first pre- workout supplement stack where I have felt the pumps everywhere that I was working. The whole body is pumped but the areas I am targeting are even more so. I can tell because as I workout my shirt gets tighter. Not only are the pumps great but the energy to complete a workout is phenomenal. I feel just as strong on my last exercise as I do on my first. No need for long recovery times. The only downside is that I am able to workout so much harder that I am crazy sore. I highly recommend these products. Love that tingly feeling.
awesome, thanks for the extensive feedback :)

[matt_ott84]

Nano Vapor was hard on the gut but Superpump250 works well...

[Greger]

I'm on my 2nd tub of NO Shotgun (v3) and couldn't be happier. Great pump, crazy vascularity and great energy thanks to the Redline. I'm definitely interested in trying CL's White Flood as I've heard great things but I've been so happy with the Shotgun I see no reason to switch.

[Blue Blazer]

Tried No Explode for a month - it gave me some energy & pump
Tried Animal Pax - I hardly seen any effect
Tried White Flood - The best- gives me energy & pump. Also gives me focus.

Animal Pak is a multivitamin, what did you expect to see? lol

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I'm on my 2nd tub of NO Shotgun (v3) and couldn't be happier. Great pump, crazy vascularity and great energy thanks to the Redline. I'm definitely interested in trying CL's White Flood as I've heard great things but I've been so happy with the Shotgun I see no reason to switch.keep us posted if you try white flood, we are always happy to have more feedback on board

[gainweightnow]

Well I've heard great hype about White Flood, so I just ordered the big tub two days ago. Should be here tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it goes.

I've had NO-Xplode and Superpump250 and was not impressed with either.

And to CONTROLLED LABS who usually posts on this thread it seems, I was wondering if there are any extra things you need to do to get a good pump, like take on empty stomach 30 minutes before, eat a high cab meal 1 hour before taking(guy from superpump said to do that) , or anything like that?

[Greek_Elite]

Well I've heard great hype about White Flood, so I just ordered the big tub two days ago. Should be here tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it goes.

I've had NO-Xplode and Superpump250 and was not impressed with either.

And to CONTROLLED LABS who usually posts on this thread it seems, I was wondering if there are any extra things you need to do to get a good pump, like take on empty stomach 30 minutes before, eat a high cab meal 1 hour before taking(guy from superpump said to do that) , or anything like that?

i had the best pumps when i took WF on an empty stomach (2 hrs after a meal/ 1 after a shake) and drank ALOT of water before and during my workout... you'll love WF plus the beta alanine tingle is great

[jj2006]

Nanovapor (3scoops) so far I like it, I feel it really making me buzz around my body, but I'm getting pimples or acne with it, what can I do to avoid this?

Tnx!

[Gandara]

Increible and awesome post.

There are a lot of Pre-workout supplements. The only I have tried is the new NO-SHOTGUN V3; a increible product and the taste is increible delicious!!!

I this time I want to try Superpump 250 or Animal Pump, but I dont know which one!!!!!!!!??????????

If I choose Superpump 250, I am going to stack with Size-ON.

If I choose Animal Pump, I am gping to stack with Universal Storm.

What do you think????

Other question, Can I use Animal Pump(Pre-workout), Size-ON(Intra-workout/post-workout) and Universal Storm (before and after workout)?????????????????????????????

What do you think??? I want to try a good stack to gain lean muscle mass, opinions???

THANKS FOR YOUR ANSWERS!!!!

[Seven_McNuggets]

Other question, Can I use Animal Pump(Pre-workout), Size-ON(Intra-workout/post-workout) and Universal Storm (before and after workout)?????????????????????????????

You don't need to go overboard on supplements. If you do, you're going to be ****ting everything out. Whatever you use for Pre-workout, you can sip on half before working out and sip the rest intra-workout.

I do that sometimes with white flood and it's amazing. You feel the tingling sensation throughout your entire workout. And even though eventually your muscles will get fatigued as hell and can hardly push up a 10 LB weight anymore, you feel like you still got the energy to run 2 miles and push up even more weight even though your muscles won't let you.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Well I've heard great hype about White Flood, so I just ordered the big tub two days ago. Should be here tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it goes.

I've had NO-Xplode and Superpump250 and was not impressed with either.

And to CONTROLLED LABS who usually posts on this thread it seems, I was wondering if there are any extra things you need to do to get a good pump, like take on empty stomach 30 minutes before, eat a high cab meal 1 hour before taking(guy from superpump said to do that) , or anything like that?

thanks for giving it a shot :)

make sure to stay fully hydrated (1--2 gallons a day without forcing it)
take a granola bar or rice cake with it

[cvandjk]

I say M5 from MAx Muscle. I tried a lot of products, but finally felt and seen some great results from Max Muscle's line of products.

[fischetti]

Why cant i order white flood to australia

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Why cant i order white flood to australia

probably the gaba. we make a gaba free version that is sold in australia.

[fischetti]

Thanks for the reply, really looking forward to trying controlled labs products really good value for money and all good said about them.

[GBLynden]

probably the gaba. we make a gaba free version that is sold in australia.

Why can't they have GABA over there? Too many people falling asleep riding kangaroo's?

[fischetti]

Why can't they have GABA over there? Too many people falling asleep riding kangaroo's?

Their is a **** load of stuff we cant get through customs in australia,no fun.

[mr_i]

Why cant i order white flood to australia

ive got white flood in before?

[fischetti]

ive got white flood in before?

In from where??????bodybuilding.com i think not, when i get to checkout it declines and says that this product white flood is not allowed in your country give it a try;)

[ssir9]

buy it from here: http://stores.ebay.com.au/Hercules-Health-Fitness-Supplements

Its got white flood, that's where i get all my supps from brah.

[fischetti]

buy it from here: http://stores.ebay.com.au/Hercules-Health-Fitness-Supplements

Its got white flood, that's where i get all my supps from brah.

Thanks mate,so far ive tried No xplode and that has worked okay for me,because ive been drinking espresso since a 8 year old i think its a italian thing,my body is used to the caffeine so the noxplode didnt give me a buzz like it would for someone who is not used to caffeine,it did give me great pumps after the second week of using the product but i had to combine nitrix with it,im really looking forward to trying white flood it seems really popular around here so it must work.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

ive got white flood in before?

maybe they changed the page

[mpi]

Does it take a while for WF to kick in (days?) cause I just got a tub and after downing 2 scoops w/ some GM, it wasn't doing much for me. In fact, 30 minutes into my lifting I was yawning. I have a pretty high tolerance to most stims though. Could it be food in my stomach or the the mixing of GM and WF that's dulling WF's effects?

[youngster13]

I am currently taking All American EFX that i get here from bodybuilding.com. I have been taking this for a little over 2 weeks. i havent seen much results. Im also getting to a point where once i pick something i have to stick with it for good. What product do you KNOW works a 100% with good to great gains?

[md0n]

Does it take a while for WF to kick in (days?) cause I just got a tub and after downing 2 scoops w/ some GM, it wasn't doing much for me. In fact, 30 minutes into my lifting I was yawning. I have a pretty high tolerance to most stims though. Could it be food in my stomach or the the mixing of GM and WF that's dulling WF's effects?

Same here, just about to finish a tub and haven't felt anything once yet. Maybe we're just tolerant to this stuff.

[Seven_McNuggets]

Same here, just about to finish a tub and haven't felt anything once yet. Maybe we're just tolerant to this stuff.

You serious? With WF, you should be experiencing a tingling sensation throughout your face/hands/arms/etc that's when it's kicking in. If you're not feeling anyhting or not noticing any increase in energy, you might be tolerant then...

[md0n]

You serious? With WF, you should be experiencing a tingling sensation throughout your face/hands/arms/etc that's when it's kicking in. If you're not feeling anyhting or not noticing any increase in energy, you might be tolerant then...

Nope, none of that stuff, even tried using 3 scoops, nothing.
Which is sad, cause I was hoping it really worked because of all the great feedback everyone was giving on this site.

[mpi]

Is it dangerous to take 3-4 scoops instead of the directed 2 in case it's not working because I'm definitely not getting a tingling sensation. Does it have to do possibly with food currently in your stomach? I'm trying WF on a completely empty stomach today (4 hours since last meal) so I hope I get something out of it.

[asalways]

If you had to pick just ONE pre-workout product for energy and/or pump, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take pre-workout products, if you should take pre-workout products, or why some pre-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite pre-workout product and give your detailed reason.)
I would go for Universal Shock Therapy. It is one of the best pre-workout shake, we have around. Also it has an anti-oxidant formula, which saves one from the side-effects of NO. Plus it delivers your nutrients intake at a much greater speed than the rest of NO products.It is highly unfortunate that Universal Products are so under rated, while as they have a total efficacy. And also they give u 100% money back guarantee. Why not try it then?

Shock Therapy is not just a pre-workout formula, it is much more than that. Hope done.

[101lifts2]

Pre: Milos Sarcev Preload
During: Milos Sarcev XXplode
Post: Milos Sarcev Reload

Hands down the best feeling for a hard pump and constant level of power.

[mikeh6]

i just ordered white flood and green mag. i've been using n.o. xplode for about a year or so. im excited to try this stuff!!

[fischetti]

Ive taken Noxlode for over 3 months,just recently ive added 1gram of vitamin C and 1 gram of each creatine mono,malate,ester i swear the no xplode works 40% better :)

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i just ordered white flood and green mag. i've been using n.o. xplode for about a year or so. im excited to try this stuff!!

awesome, keep us posted on your results :)

[TriednTrue]

As of yesterday I just started adding waxy maize starch (carbohydrate) to my White Flood pre workout drink and had an incredible workout, highly recommend mixing the two together and also helps replenish those glycogen stores and keeps the muscles hydrated, should help pack on some more muscle. I'll do a follow up in about a week to see if anymore size has been put on!

[unconditional]

I used to suggest BSN's NoXplode. Now after much research. I don't recommend any. Met too many people with their Addrenal Glands burnt out. Too many people addicted to the fake pump. All the people I train now - I recommend at half serving of whey protein 30 minutes prior. I personally like the Isopure zero carb RTD. Only 1/3 bottle (approx 12 grams protein). Finish the rest after workout. Early morning workout - no fake AMP. Just natural test and the will power to push yourself.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

As of yesterday I just started adding waxy maize starch (carbohydrate) to my White Flood pre workout drink and had an incredible workout, highly recommend mixing the two together and also helps replenish those glycogen stores and keeps the muscles hydrated, should help pack on some more muscle. I'll do a follow up in about a week to see if anymore size has been put on!

that is a great carb source to add :)

[naturalguy]

I would go for Universal Shock Therapy. It is one of the best pre-workout shake, we have around. Also it has an anti-oxidant formula, which saves one from the side-effects of NO. Plus it delivers your nutrients intake at a much greater speed than the rest of NO products.It is highly unfortunate that Universal Products are so under rated, while as they have a total efficacy. And also they give u 100% money back guarantee. Why not try it then?

Shock Therapy is not just a pre-workout formula, it is much more than that. Hope done.

For the results and price you can't beat Shock Therapy. 50 servings for $29.99 :eek:

Great energy, pumps, focus, strength and consistently great workouts.

[j. ViLLA]

For the results and price you can't beat Shock Therapy. 50 servings for $29.99 :eek:

Great energy, pumps, focus, strength and consistently great workouts.

i really want to try this. But i'm hooked on PUMP right now.

[asalways]

For the results and price you can't beat Shock Therapy. 50 servings for $29.99 :eek:

Great energy, pumps, focus, strength and consistently great workouts.
Universal has three divisions, one is Animal, second is Universal Nutrition and the third is Universal Naturals. Is Animal only for serious hardcore athletes only. And the next two for people from other categories.

[bigchrishxc]

I tried a sample of Muscletech Gakic Hardcore and it got me a good pump,like i was doing chest and i couldn't stop lifting.It got me wear i can do bench press and incline press heavy weights with a breeze, just one exercise right after another. but the crazy part was i could feel my heartbeat rate going fast.but either that its good product i don't know i would try it again though.

[Andershocknic]

for white Flood, is there a time for how long to wait? SP250 had like 30-45 miutes. is it the same with WF??

[mjhtan]

Same timing

[naturalguy]

Universal has three divisions, one is Animal, second is Universal Nutrition and the third is Universal Naturals. Is Animal only for serious hardcore athletes only. And the next two for people from other categories.

The Animal line is geared toward hardcore bodybuilders. The Universal line is also for serious bodybuilders/athletes. The main difference is that the Animal products are all in "packs" and are capsules/tablets. The Universal line has more products and a lot of powders (although there are capped/tab products as well).

[CONTROLLED LABS]

for white Flood, is there a time for how long to wait? SP250 had like 30-45 miutes. is it the same with WF??

wait for what?

[dickjustice]

hello all

i'm new around here and would like your opinions about some protein and supplements:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/size.html

i was also considering some gold standard whey protein, unless there is something better for mass...

i guess i have three questions:

1. is it ok to stack those two products?

2. is it even worth getting both?

3. is there another animal product that works better that i could stack with the creatine?

i noticed that particular creatine received high marks from you fellas, but please feel free to suggest something else i could look into as well.

any input would be appreciated, thanks.

[headinahole]

wait for what?

Think he's talking pre-workout timing, I'm usually in the gym within 30mins of drinking it.

[asalways]

The Animal line is geared toward hardcore bodybuilders. The Universal line is also for serious bodybuilders/athletes. The main difference is that the Animal products are all in "packs" and are capsules/tablets. The Universal line has more products and a lot of powders (although there are capped/tab products as well).
Thanks for the info. Will it be safe to give Animal Series, specially Animal Flex, Pak and Cuts to common man, without any background in bodybuilding/atheletics.

I am asking this it has mentioned time and again that Animal Series is specifically for hardcore bodybuilders, not even parttimers or wannabe ones.

[naturalguy]

Thanks for the info. Will it be safe to give Animal Series, specially Animal Flex, Pak and Cuts to common man, without any background in bodybuilding/atheletics.

I am asking this it has mentioned time and again that Animal Series is specifically for hardcore bodybuilders, not even parttimers or wannabe ones.

While it is geared toward bodybuilders some of the formulas like Flex and Omega can be used by anyone even if they don't workout. I have several family members on these formulas, some of them elderly who don't workout but take them for general health purposes.

[asalways]

While it is geared toward bodybuilders some of the formulas like Flex and Omega can be used by anyone even if they don't workout. I have several family members on these formulas, some of them elderly who don't workout but take them for general health purposes.
Thanks for the info. What about the Cuts bro?

Your help is quite reliable for me in helping me and my clients for significant improvements.

[naturalguy]

Thanks for the info. What about the Cuts bro?

Your help is quite reliable for me in helping me and my clients for significant improvements.

Cuts can be used by non-bodybuilders just keep in mind that it's fairly strong in the stim department.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Think he's talking pre-workout timing, I'm usually in the gym within 30mins of drinking it.

I see, yes, 30 minutes is good for white flood as well

[TSPtexas]

Ok, so ive been on White Flood for about two weeks now mixing it with Green Mag and honestly......i dont know what everyones hype is......It gave me good focus but it had nowhere near the pumps and drive i got from Black Powder or Nano Vapor. Just some feedback for you guys this one wasnt for me, but they say everyones different

[JTFisher79]

Ok, so ive been on White Flood for about two weeks now mixing it with Green Mag and honestly......i dont know what everyones hype is......It gave me good focus but it had nowhere near the pumps and drive i got from Black Powder or Nano Vapor. Just some feedback for you guys this one wasnt for me, but they say everyones different

It is so true about everybody being different. I got almost nothing from black powder. I love the white flood

[TSPtexas]

I'm ganna give Animal Pump a try and if that one doesnt work out I'm goin back to NAno Vapor, its been the one for me so far

[J_J]

I would say Superpump 250 for sure.

[Tyme2Lift]

I have tried No Xplode, Black Powder, and Animal Pump...I would have to rank it
Animal Pump, Black Powder, No Xplode. I feel pump gave me my overall most gains but I really got tired of the pills daily. I just started a cycle of pump 250 so we will see how its ranks up with the others.

[dickjustice]

hello all

i'm new around here and would like your opinions about some protein and supplements:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/animalpak.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/size.html

i was also considering some gold standard whey protein, unless there is something better for mass...

i guess i have three questions:

1. is it ok to stack those two products?

2. is it even worth getting both?

3. is there another animal product that works better that i could stack with the creatine?

i noticed that particular creatine received high marks from you fellas, but please feel free to suggest something else i could look into as well.

any input would be appreciated, thanks.

bump

any help?

[oakraiderfan912]

has anyone tried Labrada Super Charge?

[Andershocknic]

white flood lemonade taste terrible. that lemonade flavor x_x still good effect though, i'm taking it as a break from superpump. Which btw, grape is sorta nasty, blue raspberry is the bomb, then the rasberry lemonade is decent.

[Micah123]

buy it from here: http://stores.ebay.com.au/Hercules-Health-Fitness-Supplements

Its got white flood, that's where i get all my supps from brah.

lol @ buying from that wankstar, terrible.

Pm me if you want a site to buy whiteflood off, aussie stores are a complete rip off.

[Oils]

Yep!

[JakeBinz]

I haven't tried any others, but so far I'm satisfied with NO Explode. I only take one rounded scoop with 6 oz of water immediately before workouts. I sip it for the 15 minutes leading up to my first exercise (while I'm on the treadmill).

I get wired on it, man. "Balls to the wall" workouts every time and the pumps range from good to crazy depending on the body part. I measured my arms 10 minutes after my workout and I had a 1 inch pump. I work biceps and triceps on different days, so that pump is the result of working only one of the two. I haven't noticed any side effects at all.

[thefireman02]

Just bought Controlled Labs White Flood and LOVE it! Great pump and endurance throughtout long workouts. Cant wait to do back and bi's to see a real pump on it. Nice Work CL's.

Would it be good to mix with a sports drink to get some simple carbs?
Or anything to mix instead of water?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Just bought Controlled Labs White Flood and LOVE it! Great pump and endurance throughtout long workouts. Cant wait to do back and bi's to see a real pump on it. Nice Work CL's.

Would it be good to mix with a sports drink to get some simple carbs?
Or anything to mix instead of water?

sounds great. you can take in a granola bar or rice cake with it, that is better than most sports drinks

[mpi]

Initially when I bought a tub of GM and WF, I was kinda disappointed with the performance of WF but after a while I gotta say I was really mistaken. Took WF with some carbs preworkout today and had an amazing workout. I think lack of sleep was hindering my results earlier while I was on WF but after a bit of rest and a break from the gym, I can really feel all the energy gained. Great product.

[burty--5]

so far wf hands down you keep your energy level high all through your workot and you don't crash like alot of supplements will do to ya I highly recomend this product

[ma3adi_DArkman]

No Explode vs. Na-NO Vapor vs. NO-Shotgun

No Xplode: fruit punch
gives a caffine high; which can be good for a little energy but there is definitely a crash after lifting. Also you build a tolerance very fast. I had to double the dose after just 1 week. Pumps are pretty good. nothing special when compared to other No products. The price is better than Na NO vapor but still higher than ive seen Animal Pump go for (30$ on ******************). I didnt notice increased focus other than the caffine energy. The taste was actually not bad. Definitely the best of all 3. Not somthing i would drink for the taste but it is a plus that i dont have to hold my nose and chug.
Energy4/5
Focus 2/5
Pumps 3/5
Tolerance1/5
Taste 4/5
Price 3/5


Na-NO vapor: (fruit punch)
Im a big fan of this product because of the incredible enrergy it gives me and mental focus. I feel that its more than just a caffine buzz. i actually get more focussed and ready to lift. It gives about the same pumps as No-xplode; nothing special but its there. Tolerance is much better than No-xplode i feel that i can get through most of the bottle without getting used to the effects. BUT the biggest drawback of NaNo vapor is its price. Its the most expensive that ive seen on most websites, and i saw it at GNC for 79.99 for the larger bottle. I dont know if anyone actually pays that ( i feel bad if they do) but i know im not ready to spend 80$ on a preworkout drink. Taste also leaves somthing to be desired. I got used to it, but the first time i could barely get it down and missed the taste of NO-xplode.
Energy 5/5
Focus 5/5
Pumps 3/5
Tolerance 4/5
Taste 2/5
Price 1/5

NO-Shotgun
I got 5 free samples of this from vitamin world about 2 weeks ago while i was waiting for my Na-No vapor to come in the mail. I took 3 days of 1 packet and then the 4th day i took 2 packets. I feel that this product is even more of just a caffine product than No-Xplode. I just got pure caffine energy which lasted about 45 min. followed by a crash. I do have to say that it was a kick in the ass for those 45 min. I wasnt any more focussed so this product loses points with me. i did notice that my thoughts were racing and my eyes were darting and i couldnt sit still (caffine), and i didnt really like these effects which also makes it lose points. the taste is the worst out of all three. it was like the flouride that you get at the dentist, absolutely disgusting and i had to force it down all the way. I didnt see any difference in a pump from one you would get while lifting without it. Ive seen prices range with this product but it usually falls between Noxplode and Vapor. I didnt take this product long enough to judge Tolerance but i know that i did have to double my dosage on the 4th day to see same effects; because it is caffine energy i would say the tolerance is similar to No-xplode.
Energy 5/5
Focus 1/5
Pumps 1/5
Tolerance 1/5
Taste 1/5
Price 3/5

The winner of these three IMO is Vapor. (2. No-Xplode 3. Shotgun) . If you can afford it i would pick this one because its not just caffine energy but gives you some additional focus as well.
I will be trying Animal PUMP in the near future and will update.

dear can you tell me the dose you take in day

[nillocsivad]

Core Zap
RPM
Shock Therapy.

Core zap gives amazing mind muscle connection and energy without jitters...
but not near as much anger as RPM. RPM also seemed to give better pumps but i found the stimulation a bit too edgy sometimes.

shock therapy was awesome as well. great focus and HYOOGE pumps. best taken with a bit of food to prevent a dropoff during the workout.

zap is my favorite so far but i plan on going back to rpm and ST later to try again. zap gets me zoned in. RPM makes me want to beat up old ladies... same with shock therapy

lol... actually in the gym even with zap i wanna beat up grannies. ive got enough gym aggression as is :D

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Initially when I bought a tub of GM and WF, I was kinda disappointed with the performance of WF but after a while I gotta say I was really mistaken. Took WF with some carbs preworkout today and had an amazing workout. I think lack of sleep was hindering my results earlier while I was on WF but after a bit of rest and a break from the gym, I can really feel all the energy gained. Great product.


so far wf hands down you keep your energy level high all through your workot and you don't crash like alot of supplements will do to ya I highly recomend this product

awesome, white flood starts producing the best results about 2 weeks in and it kicks it up a notch if you use it with some carbs

[1down5up]

Just bought some Labrada Supercharge and it works real good.

[itsgroll]

ive been on WF now for 2 weeks! good stuff. like the tingling feeling. :) just got G. Mag will take it today with WF. should i do 2 scoops of WF with 1 scoop green mag? if i do that than what should be a post shake? creatine mono with BCAA and whey?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

ive been on WF now for 2 weeks! good stuff. like the tingling feeling. :) just got G. Mag will take it today with WF. should i do 2 scoops of WF with 1 scoop green mag? if i do that than what should be a post shake? creatine mono with BCAA and whey?

sounds good, take them both with a rice cake or granola bar preworkout. take whey post and take bcaa during. no need for creatine mono while on green mag

[Benelli3022]

I have been using CL White Flood for a little over a week now (~5 workouts) and am extremely pleased. The pumps are incredible and according to my log i have been consistantly pushing out 1-3 more reps at more weight before fail. I had a tub of NOxplode before and so far i am much more happy with White Flood for a pre-workout supplement. Plus the fact that it makes you feel like a f***in animal!! We will see how WF works out in the next few weeks for some more sustained and consistant results, i will log it carefully.

Side effects: At first a little jittery, shakes. Dying down a bit as use continues. Slight tingling in legs and palms of hands, also beginning to fade. Not too hard on my stomach, NOxplode did a number on my stomach for some reason.

Ill post back in a few weeks with what i have found from this product, i just wanna get something that works, im not here to waste my time.

[RICKS101]

I have only recently started back at the gym and only tried one pre workout supp, NaNo Vapor. Blue ras. I felt strong and I had a good focus/pump. I noticed a big diff from no preworkout but i cant say its the best with no other comparison. I am def. sold on trying Controlled labs. I will stack Green w/ White and see what the results are and let ya know how NaNo and White compare. I have been off Nano and any other supp (other than protien) for 3 weeks now. Wish me luck!!!

[TSPtexas]

Alright heres the deal like i said earlier everyones different but.....according to my last 10months on supps this is how they stack up "for me"

1. Nano Vapor- Good supp really gave me pumps beastin it at the gym with good results but i did have pretty bad crashes and it destroyed my stomach

2. Black Powder- Bout the same as Nano i didnt have quite the same pumps but less side effects, still messed up my stomach a little

3. White Flood/Green Mag- Just got off the stuff it gave me good stamina and focus but I just didnt get the same pumps I got from the others which i didnt like, after three weeks i was throwin three scoops in on an empty stomach not much happnin, not for me i guess but everyone else seems to be lovin the stuff

4. Animal Pump- Package came in today and just finished my work out. WOW good ****. Very skeptical at first with these pills?? but it was cheap so i got it and I took it about 35-40 min before my workout today havin great pumps focus and lasts a long time. no stomach problems, no crash yet very good supp.

Just wanna get some info out to you guys who havnt tried very many supps so you dont waste your money, need any more feedback on those just let me know

[SpongeTom]

Ive been through 2 tubs of Superpump 250 now. It has been fantastic. Great pumps, great energy, donno about the focus though. As for the superdump thing, I dont think I really experienced it thankfully.

I want to try something new, Ive read through all the posts in this thread and still dont know what to go with.

Ones Im looking at
- Animal Pump
- Ragnorak
- Shock Therapy
- White Flood
- Black Powder.

What Im looking to get from it
- Energy
- Focus
- Strength
- Taste would be nice, but not at the expense of a good product.
- Not overly worried about pumps at this stage as Im mainly focusing on strength training

Im at a bit of a loss. WF and Pump have great reports, Ragnorak apparently has a great profile and is a bit of an underdog, Black Powder sounds awesome, Shock Therapy has a great price.

Any thoughts, help, ideas, for my next purchase?
Thanks!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I have been using CL White Flood for a little over a week now (~5 workouts) and am extremely pleased. The pumps are incredible and according to my log i have been consistantly pushing out 1-3 more reps at more weight before fail. I had a tub of NOxplode before and so far i am much more happy with White Flood for a pre-workout supplement. Plus the fact that it makes you feel like a f***in animal!! We will see how WF works out in the next few weeks for some more sustained and consistant results, i will log it carefully.

Side effects: At first a little jittery, shakes. Dying down a bit as use continues. Slight tingling in legs and palms of hands, also beginning to fade. Not too hard on my stomach, NOxplode did a number on my stomach for some reason.

Ill post back in a few weeks with what i have found from this product, i just wanna get something that works, im not here to waste my time.
awesome, thanks for posting up your feedback :)

I have only recently started back at the gym and only tried one pre workout supp, NaNo Vapor. Blue ras. I felt strong and I had a good focus/pump. I noticed a big diff from no preworkout but i cant say its the best with no other comparison. I am def. sold on trying Controlled labs. I will stack Green w/ White and see what the results are and let ya know how NaNo and White compare. I have been off Nano and any other supp (other than protien) for 3 weeks now. Wish me luck!!!
keep us posted, I think you will love white flood and green magnitude. take a rice cake or granola bar with it preworkout :)

Alright heres the deal like i said earlier everyones different but.....according to my last 10months on supps this is how they stack up "for me"

1. Nano Vapor- Good supp really gave me pumps beastin it at the gym with good results but i did have pretty bad crashes and it destroyed my stomach

2. Black Powder- Bout the same as Nano i didnt have quite the same pumps but less side effects, still messed up my stomach a little

3. White Flood/Green Mag- Just got off the stuff it gave me good stamina and focus but I just didnt get the same pumps I got from the others which i didnt like, after three weeks i was throwin three scoops in on an empty stomach not much happnin, not for me i guess but everyone else seems to be lovin the stuff

4. Animal Pump- Package came in today and just finished my work out. WOW good ****. Very skeptical at first with these pills?? but it was cheap so i got it and I took it about 35-40 min before my workout today havin great pumps focus and lasts a long time. no stomach problems, no crash yet very good supp.

Just wanna get some info out to you guys who havnt tried very many supps so you dont waste your money, need any more feedback on those just let me know
did you cycle off for 1-2 weeks between each stack?

Ive been through 2 tubs of Superpump 250 now. It has been fantastic. Great pumps, great energy, donno about the focus though. As for the superdump thing, I dont think I really experienced it thankfully.

I want to try something new, Ive read through all the posts in this thread and still dont know what to go with.

Ones Im looking at
- Animal Pump
- Ragnorak
- Shock Therapy
- White Flood
- Black Powder.

What Im looking to get from it
- Energy
- Focus
- Strength
- Taste would be nice, but not at the expense of a good product.
- Not overly worried about pumps at this stage as Im mainly focusing on strength training

Im at a bit of a loss. WF and Pump have great reports, Ragnorak apparently has a great profile and is a bit of an underdog, Black Powder sounds awesome, Shock Therapy has a great price.

Any thoughts, help, ideas, for my next purchase?
Thanks!
if you give white flood a try, I have no doubt you will love the results :)

[RICKS101]

Well i put Controlled Labs WF and GM off for just a minute. The reason being, I like to buy local and the store I go through (supplement superstores in the greater St. louis, MO area) wont have CL for a few weeks. Sorry CL i will buy ASAP through them. Anywho I wound up buying Super Pump250 and SizeOn. Cant really speak for the SizeOn yet but the Super Pump250 was pretty good. I drank 2 scoops 30min prior to workout and ate a poptart. I felt pumped and enrgized. It was good thus far. I will continue for 1 week straight and get back to ya. Don't worry CL I am only waiting my store to get the hook up. If the deal falls through i will go Internet.

[maxpinck1]

Ive been through 2 tubs of Superpump 250 now. It has been fantastic. Great pumps, great energy, donno about the focus though. As for the superdump thing, I dont think I really experienced it thankfully.

I want to try something new, Ive read through all the posts in this thread and still dont know what to go with.

Ones Im looking at
- Animal Pump
- Ragnorak
- Shock Therapy
- White Flood
- Black Powder.

What Im looking to get from it
- Energy
- Focus
- Strength
- Taste would be nice, but not at the expense of a good product.
- Not overly worried about pumps at this stage as Im mainly focusing on strength training

Im at a bit of a loss. WF and Pump have great reports, Ragnorak apparently has a great profile and is a bit of an underdog, Black Powder sounds awesome, Shock Therapy has a great price.

Any thoughts, help, ideas, for my next purchase?
Thanks!
I agree with you on the superpump250, right now I am looking for a post work-out supplement.

[itsgroll]

should i take green mag on off days?

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Well i put Controlled Labs WF and GM off for just a minute. The reason being, I like to buy local and the store I go through (supplement superstores in the greater St. louis, MO area) wont have CL for a few weeks. Sorry CL i will buy ASAP through them. Anywho I wound up buying Super Pump250 and SizeOn. Cant really speak for the SizeOn yet but the Super Pump250 was pretty good. I drank 2 scoops 30min prior to workout and ate a poptart. I felt pumped and enrgized. It was good thus far. I will continue for 1 week straight and get back to ya. Don't worry CL I am only waiting my store to get the hook up. If the deal falls through i will go Internet.
who do they purchase through?

should i take green mag on off days?

yes, 1 scoop everyday

[asalways]

Cuts can be used by non-bodybuilders just keep in mind that it's fairly strong in the stim department.
what is the full form of stim?

[RICKS101]

who do they purchase through?
I dont know who they purchase through. I inquired yesterday and the person(s) that do the purchasing were not there. I heard through the grape vine that CL products will be available at Suppelment superstores real soon if not today. Cant wait!!

[CONTROLLED LABS]

I dont know who they purchase through. I inquired yesterday and the person(s) that do the purchasing were not there. I heard through the grape vine that CL products will be available at Suppelment superstores real soon if not today. Cant wait!!

sounds great, they must purchase through a distributor like Europa :)

[flexxdzl]

NO explode..

I took it and had great work outs I was able to lift 20 pounds more than I can actually lift..gave me great energy no crash ..I'm not a body builder just a regular guy trying to look good .. ..I also was drinking that sizeon during my workout..

[sirbobmontgomery]

Today is only my 2nd day on WF and no joke i had veins pumping thru my arms that i've never seen before and my forearms were so tight i felt like popeye...crazy, 2nd day already getting results.

[juanboogie]

I have used different supplements while training the last 10 months or so and I have to say without a doubt that NO shotgun v3 (pre workout) is in my opinion the best. It contains everything you need plus about 20 grams of protein, the taste is good (black cherry). I did not believe the hype about this product but when trying it I was amazed. After 2 and a half hours working out hard I am usually exhausted but with this I felt like I had just begun. I havent even stacked it with the NO synthesize yet and still seeing great results. Also may I point out is aspartame free which is another good thing as this ingredient used in so many products is terrible for the human body which tests have shown that it can trigger cancer.
Anyway product was amazing. As long as you allready work out hard in the gym you will see with your first dose an increase in strenth reps and mental focus. Keep it up everybody and continue to get ripped!!!!! Its not who gets there the fastest as long as you get there!!!!!!! im out!!