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JDnole
09-28-2010, 12:11 PM
Anyone ever tried Muscle Marinade? I have tried Superpump250, Jacked3d and NO Shotgun and feel like the Superpump gave me the most energy but was a little jittery.

Sounds like WF is the way to go

Atari
09-28-2010, 03:00 PM
Anyone build up a tollerence to white flood? Some days feel like the first time and on other days it has no effect.

DoubleTrouble53
09-29-2010, 12:14 AM
Anyone build up a tollerence to white flood? Some days feel like the first time and on other days it has no effect.


Ive tried Jack3d, superpump, and White Flood, and even with all the positive reviews on the controlled labs products throughout these threads WF didnt do all that much for me, Im using the Cellucor Nzero NO extreme and its workin great!

G-wood
09-29-2010, 06:54 AM
Anyone build up a tollerence to white flood? Some days feel like the first time and on other days it has no effect.

I have used alot of pre workout supps, and I build a tolerance to all of them over time, so it is totally normal. Usually by the end of a cycle I am up to around three scoops per use. That's why I take a couple weeks off between cycles, to flush my system off all the caffeine and other stuff lol. Now I do feel that white flood works the best tho, its all a personal pref. Think of it like alcohol man, at first you get a buzz from 2 beers, later on, it takes 6 to even feel it.

traptnchevelle
09-29-2010, 08:37 AM
I have used nano vapor(would not recommend to anyone) and jacked, but to be honest, they don't come close to white flood. This stuff gives the GREATEST pumps and I feel like I never want to stop my workout. I've been on it for about 2 weeks now and can't get enough of it. I will definitely be ordering some more.

Muscle Marinade had my attention for awhile but I'm afraid it will give me the same post-workout side effects like vapor did...

kickinit
09-29-2010, 07:00 PM
Sorry i have 3 i cycle.. No shotgun, muscle prime and super pump. When effects slow i switch. All are great but muscle prime is a little messy and harder on my guts. Good pump and energy from all

CONTROLLED LABS
09-30-2010, 02:29 PM
I'm going to put in an order for WF. Where's the cheapest place to buy it?
bb.com has a great price, especially after the 10% discount coupon they have

Anyone build up a tollerence to white flood? Some days feel like the first time and on other days it has no effect.

how long has it been since you cycled stims? have you tried shaking the tub?

koury7
10-01-2010, 07:16 AM
Sorry guys, I have a question regarding these pre-workout pumps.

My coach said i should consider using N.O-Xplode, And also said that you can see and feel its effects from the very first use...Now my question is that how true is what he said? Does my veins really pop out from the first use (and i know that i have to use it consistently to see the better results)? Do i feel more energized and more powerful by using these products?? Or is it just a matter time and process (That it won't have any visible results in first experience)?

I do appreciate any kind of help and hearing your experiences regarding this.

Thanks in advance...

Atari
10-01-2010, 11:01 AM
bb.com has a great price, especially after the 10% discount coupon they have


how long has it been since you cycled stims? have you tried shaking the tub?

I ran out of a 100 serving container on Tuesday. That last serving was around two scoops which is where I like to try and keep it. I have shared a scoop here and there with friends and they all have the same reaction " WOW!" and thats after only one scoop. I guess I had forgotten how potent 1 scoop is. I do not drink any caffinated drinks outside of what I use pre work out.

Yes I do shake the tub or at least I stirr it around before each use.

Man, my last three gym days have sucked without it, Long days at the office. IMO out of all the pre-workout supps. I have tried this (WF) is the best.

Knowing I am loyal to WF and will keep buying it should I try using my # 2 pre workout product? I guess what I am asking is would cycle of a different formula allow me to go back to White flood in say 30 days and with the original effects?


BTW where do we find this 10% coupon?

Trioxin149
10-01-2010, 11:04 AM
JACK3D. It's only 30 bucks if you use a Gold Card at GNC and I've gotten some pretty good workouts off of it so far. Most of the people I've seen that say it stopped working over time are people that didn't cycle off of it like you're supposed to. Would highly recommend it!

Atari
10-01-2010, 11:07 AM
I have used alot of pre workout supps, and I build a tolerance to all of them over time, so it is totally normal. Usually by the end of a cycle I am up to around three scoops per use. That's why I take a couple weeks off between cycles, to flush my system off all the caffeine and other stuff lol. Now I do feel that white flood works the best tho, its all a personal pref. Think of it like alcohol man, at first you get a buzz from 2 beers, later on, it takes 6 to even feel it.

Thanks.Three workouts without anything. I'm the guy continiously slapping my face in the gym to stay focused.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-01-2010, 06:40 PM
I ran out of a 100 serving container on Tuesday. That last serving was around two scoops which is where I like to try and keep it. I have shared a scoop here and there with friends and they all have the same reaction " WOW!" and thats after only one scoop. I guess I had forgotten how potent 1 scoop is. I do not drink any caffinated drinks outside of what I use pre work out.

Yes I do shake the tub or at least I stirr it around before each use.

Man, my last three gym days have sucked without it, Long days at the office. IMO out of all the pre-workout supps. I have tried this (WF) is the best.

Knowing I am loyal to WF and will keep buying it should I try using my # 2 pre workout product? I guess what I am asking is would cycle of a different formula allow me to go back to White flood in say 30 days and with the original effects?


BTW where do we find this 10% coupon?

cycling in another preworkout product that has stimulants in it wont change things. you need to cycle off of stims/caffeine completely for 1-2 weeks after each tub.

the coupon code changes periodically, check the main supp section for the info on the latest code.

breathemetal
10-01-2010, 06:55 PM
White flood!

Missgymrat
10-02-2010, 07:27 AM
I notice a significant difference when using it before workouts, I feel more focused and in the zone. I also sweat more.

koury7
10-04-2010, 02:43 AM
I'm just gonna start using a Pro-nutrition Cell FX, which is pretty an unknown pre-workout supp, I'm wondering if i still have to use my creatine and L-glutamine along the line?

pdave
10-06-2010, 10:58 AM
muacle marinade by purus labs- no carbs no sugar 100% percent actives. great concentration and energy mix. i wasnt cracked out but solid energy. tastes like welches grape fruit juice

pdave
10-06-2010, 11:00 AM
Anyone ever tried Muscle Marinade? I have tried Superpump250, Jacked3d and NO Shotgun and feel like the Superpump gave me the most energy but was a little jittery.

Sounds like WF is the way to go
i found this today.

marinateyourmind.com

mattwhey
10-06-2010, 04:27 PM
muacle marinade by purus labs- no carbs no sugar 100% percent actives. great concentration and energy mix. i wasnt cracked out but solid energy. tastes like welches grape fruit juice


Anyone ever tried Muscle Marinade? I have tried Superpump250, Jacked3d and NO Shotgun and feel like the Superpump gave me the most energy but was a little jittery.

Sounds like WF is the way to go


i found this today.

marinateyourmind.com

Do not, and I repeat DO NOT buy Muscle Marinade. I'm not even half way through the jug and I want to throw it away. I've tried at least 5-6 Pre-workout's and this by FAR is the worse.

The after workout crash is HORRIBlE. If you want to know why I don't like it PM me


I would recommend either White Flood, Presurged Unleashed or Jack3d.

Atari
10-07-2010, 03:06 PM
cycling in another preworkout product that has stimulants in it wont change things. you need to cycle off of stims/caffeine completely for 1-2 weeks after each tub.

the coupon code changes periodically, check the main supp section for the info on the latest code.

Thanks CL. Repped for the responses.Keep up the good work.

Peter LeDrew
10-08-2010, 09:12 AM
Ultima was always my top choice in pre-workouts since it was released and it has benefited my training experience as well as health. It has been reformulated and improved in taste since release. This product is untouchable and def. worth trying out at least once to experience. I know it was a major reason for me joining Omega Sports as a rep and helping to inform people here of great products like Ultima.


No prop. blends here with real patented ingredients like the Trinitine creatine blend, Cognizin CDP-Choline http://www.cognizin.com/, Alpha Size A-GPC http://www.cheminutra.com/product-alphasize.php, Magnapower creatine http://creatinemagnapower.com/ and the superior forms of B-vitamins and so, so much more. In an industry some health professionals refer to as a joke, Ultima is no joke.


Then there is also Omega Sports Flashover... a potent stim pre-workout, once again with a non-prop. formula. You pay for what you get so you should know what you get, don't you think?

Both formulas have their place and both recieve OUTSTANDING reviews including close to 10/10 from nearly every reviewer with the exception of a few subjective taste issues.

Check them out right here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/omega/omega.htm


Shawn Wells along with Dr. Dana Houser helped formulate and bring this performance-health enhancing product to the forefront of pre-workout supplementation: http://www.zonehalo.com/company-bios/

Acetyl-CoA
10-08-2010, 02:37 PM
Ultima was always my top choice in pre-workouts since it was released and it has benefited my training experience as well as health. It has been reformulated and improved in taste since release. This product is untouchable and def. worth trying out at least once to experience. I know it was a major reason for me joining Omega Sports as a rep and helping to inform people here of great products like Ultima.


No prop. blends here with real patented ingredients like the Trinitine creatine blend, Cognizin CDP-Choline http://www.cognizin.com/, Alpha Size A-GPC http://www.cheminutra.com/product-alphasize.php, Magnapower creatine http://creatinemagnapower.com/ and the superior forms of B-vitamins and so, so much more. In an industry some health professionals refer to as a joke, Ultima is no joke.


Then there is also Omega Sports Flashover... a potent stim pre-workout, once again with a non-prop. formula. You pay for what you get so you should know what you get, don't you think?

Both formulas have their place and both recieve OUTSTANDING reviews including close to 10/10 from nearly every reviewer with the exception of a few subjective taste issues.

Check them out right here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/omega/omega.htm


Shawn Wells along with Dr. Dana Houser helped formulate and bring this performance-health enhancing product to the forefront of pre-workout supplementation: http://www.zonehalo.com/company-bios/

That used to be my favorite, till it made me uncomfortably sleepy. Now, I stand by Body Octane and Clearshot.

madadam
10-08-2010, 09:01 PM
Mr. Controlled Labs, I have a question for you. What is the purpose of the G.A.B.A. in White Flood? Doesn't that have something to do with sleep?

BB-Guy
10-09-2010, 01:48 PM
White Flood vs Jacked? Whats better? Why is Jacked #1 in the store?

Peter LeDrew
10-09-2010, 03:02 PM
That used to be my favorite, till it made me uncomfortably sleepy. Now, I stand by Body Octane and Clearshot.

Strange... Not sure what would cause that? How long before it went from your favorite to effecting you like that?

I was thinking it might have been possible with the high doses of choline compounds seen previously (specifically DMAE), but that has been better adjusted... most find it spot on in that regards now... but again, as with everything, people respond differently. The DMAE has been removed in the latest incarnation of Ultima which also helps getting it shipped from bb.com to the great land of Canada.


Another question I have is... Were you coming off stims?


I used some Ultima in my pre-intra Marathon drink today... although I did pass a few runners like they were sleeping! hehe I ran great and I had never run near kind of distance before.

Acetyl-CoA
10-09-2010, 04:49 PM
Strange... Not sure what would cause that? How long before it went from your favorite to effecting you like that?

I was thinking it might have been possible with the high doses of choline compounds seen previously (specifically DMAE), but that has been better adjusted... most find it spot on in that regards now... but again, as with everything, people respond differently. The DMAE has been removed in the latest incarnation of Ultima which also helps getting it shipped from bb.com to the great land of Canada.


Another question I have is... Were you coming off stims?


I used some Ultima in my pre-intra Marathon drink today... although I did pass a few runners like they were sleeping! hehe I ran great and I had never run near kind of distance before.

I was on Sesamin... that's the only thing that was different to when it was my favorite. I'm still a little hesitant to return to it, but may do so stacked with clearshot just in case in really does make me sleepy.

My label (and bb.com) says it contains DMAE. Perhaps could you put us in touch with the ACTUAL ingredient list??? That would be helpful, so we know what we are swigging pre-workout.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-09-2010, 07:32 PM
Mr. Controlled Labs, I have a question for you. What is the purpose of the G.A.B.A. in White Flood? Doesn't that have something to do with sleep?

its a neurotransmitter that works in concert with the stimulants :)

bigman1976
10-09-2010, 07:36 PM
I need to try this out if you guys like it so well.

Peter LeDrew
10-10-2010, 06:31 AM
I was on Sesamin... that's the only thing that was different to when it was my favorite. I'm still a little hesitant to return to it, but may do so stacked with clearshot just in case in really does make me sleepy.

My label (and bb.com) says it contains DMAE. Perhaps could you put us in touch with the ACTUAL ingredient list??? That would be helpful, so we know what we are swigging pre-workout.

I think Matt is just waiting on bb.com to update the ingredients list... DMAE was removed to make it more friendly for shipping to other countries like Canada which can be finicky about some ingredients. If your bottle says DMAE you have the one with it. It was mostly the first version which had a very potent dose that many had issues with.... but you could have been sensitive to it or the sesamin somehow.

I think DMAE went from something like 500mg to 75mg which is what bb.com is still showing... that other popular place has the latest label I believe sans DMAE. Matt and Omega are constantly looking to evolve Ultima as a leader in pre-workout nutrition, taking into account feedback from users, while making it as taste friendly as possible.

Now, I think you see a much more balanced final product that displays synergy amongst some of the best non-stim ingredients possible. I'm planning on using it regularly when I hit the weights again and every so often when I want the stim hit I am going to try out our Flashover stacked with one scoop Ultima. This has done me well for PreSurge and judging the ingredients Flashover + Ultima should work very well. The creatine will still be around 5g creatine with the Trinitine and creatine mono. I have yet to try out Clearshot, but have read users stacking it with Ultima before with success.

jbencar
10-12-2010, 02:42 PM
I've recently tried NO Shotgun, NO Xplode, and Jack3d (obviously not at the same time). I think Jack3d works the best for the price. NO Shotgun messed with my stomach. NO Xplode worked well too, but for the price I prefer Jack3d

buchdogg
10-13-2010, 08:26 AM
In order:

1. Assualt- in a league of it's own


2. Jack3d- in a second tier of it's own

3. White Flood
4. Labrada Super Charge
5. FRS Healthy Energy
6. Ragnarok- Old forumla
7. Gaspari Super Pump- Old formula

italiancrew
10-13-2010, 08:34 AM
white flood works great. I love that.

shotgunshorty28
10-13-2010, 11:57 AM
Currently, I'm taking N.O. Xplode and the energy factor is really cool, but after about a week or so, I've developed a tolerance towards it. Also, its has down quite a number on my stomach. I had to lay off of it for about 2 weeks or so. Awesome product though, but I would recommend taking it moderately.

I'm hearing good things about White flood. So, i'm going to try that next after I finish with the remaining NO Xplode.

koury7
10-14-2010, 01:17 AM
I'm just gonna start using a Pro-nutrition Cell FX, which is pretty an unknown pre-workout supp, I'm wondering if i still have to use my creatine and L-glutamine along the line?

Any idea?

shmitchell
10-14-2010, 11:22 AM
If u r worried about getting a bigger creatine intake buy good ole fashion creatine that way ur not losing ur wallet. Higher Power has new creatine out 100 plus servings, flavored and like 15 bucks. I haven't tried it yet but plan on it. U should get ur glutamine from ur protein shakes as most have it.

BB-Guy
10-14-2010, 06:04 PM
White Flood says that I cannot take it if I have high blood pressure and to consult my doctor. Well my BD has always been low but it was slightly high from yesterday's test.

I can go on a Rx that lowers my BP and still take WF?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-15-2010, 12:47 PM
White Flood says that I cannot take it if I have high blood pressure and to consult my doctor. Well my BD has always been low but it was slightly high from yesterday's test.

I can go on a Rx that lowers my BP and still take WF?

if you have high blood pressure consult your doctor before adding any supplements

BB-Guy
10-15-2010, 06:03 PM
if you have high blood pressure consult your doctor before adding any supplements

Even if its slightly high, I should consult? I would hate to give up White Flood or any other pre-workout sup though.

Jeph77
10-15-2010, 10:32 PM
deffinetly white flodd everytime. nothing is as good in regards to how good it works, and its ingrediants. **** 1,3!

Christian1983bb
10-17-2010, 09:50 AM
Has anyone tested musclemeds Code Red Alarm ?i've read about "glycocarn"!are that simply carbohydrates?

RippedJohn
10-17-2010, 10:17 AM
White flood is it http://bit.ly/azv6Fi

dpodboy
10-18-2010, 08:46 AM
Tried white flood this weekend, it was the worst I've had so far.

Ratings in order :

1. Presurge Unleashed
2. Jack3d
3. Animal Pump
4. Superpump250
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5 White Flood

dpodboy
10-18-2010, 08:47 AM
I do LOVE I mean LOVE Orange Triade and Oxi Fish Oil

iRockPecs
10-18-2010, 10:59 AM
Had been using jacked with great results. I had a free sample of no explode so I thought I would give it a shot. In comparison I got much better results from jack3d

BB-Guy
10-18-2010, 12:47 PM
Whether its SP 250 or WF. What I noticed is that when you take the supp for the first time, its great but gradually it builds up to your system so you need to take more scoops to get more of it. Would anyone agree with me here?


How about switching SP250 and WF back and forth?

CONTROLLED LABS
10-18-2010, 01:14 PM
Whether its SP 250 or WF. What I noticed is that when you take the supp for the first time, its great but gradually it builds up to your system so you need to take more scoops to get more of it. Would anyone agree with me here?


How about switching SP250 and WF back and forth?

this is the case with all stims, which is why you should cycle off of them periodically (not from one to another)

jmanis
10-18-2010, 07:35 PM
I just received my WF sample in the mail the other day and tried it today and it worked great. It tasted like crap but worked. Only used half the pack since it was my first time using the product or anything of that nature so I will be taking the second half of the package tomorrow.

maritimer28
10-19-2010, 12:57 AM
After trying many, I have to go with Assault by Muscle Pharm...

CONTROLLED LABS
10-19-2010, 07:48 AM
I just received my WF sample in the mail the other day and tried it today and it worked great. It tasted like crap but worked. Only used half the pack since it was my first time using the product or anything of that nature so I will be taking the second half of the package tomorrow.

how much water did you use with half the pack? that could be the issue

dpodboy
10-19-2010, 10:48 AM
how much water did you use with half the pack? that could be the issue

lol, the issue COULD BE that the flavoring system sucks.

jmanis
10-19-2010, 12:06 PM
how much water did you use with half the pack? that could be the issue

The packet says 8-12 oz so I used 12 since I never tried it before. I wound up adding a bit more since the taste was so strong. I am going to trying it again today before the gym so if there is anything different I will let you all know.

cloudstrife1218
10-19-2010, 06:27 PM
I take NaNo vapor for my preworkout and i can say that grape is yummy! def one of the better tasting pre workouts i have had. I can tell the difference in my energy lvl and workout burn when i take this product and when i don't. The difference isn't astounding, but i most definitely get much better results when taking nano vapor.

I tell you what though, anabolic halo, craziest tasting post workout ever! I have never recovered faster and with more ease than after taking some halo and then a protein shake a half hour later. crazy good!

cloudstrife1218
10-19-2010, 07:25 PM
i definitely agree that nano vapor is an amazing pre workout. the focus and the energy you get is amazing. only con is the price. but i never pay full price for it, so that can be set aside.

tooonice8
10-20-2010, 04:27 PM
I'm new here but i viewed the site and wanted to sign up. seems like a lot of good info here. I'm 23 years old and recently have started going back to the gym on a regular basis. It's important because of my job and my girlfriend is in very good shape and involved in nutrition/health/the gym. I know some stuff because of her but not nearly as much as most of the people on this forum.

Right now I'm at about 220 pounds and im 6 feet 2 inches tall. my goal is to end toned and cut not adding bulky muscle. I want to be muscular but not bulky and huge like a body builder. i want my muscles to be sculpted and pop out not a huge mass of muscle.

I realize i have to eat enough to build muscle but also do enough cardio with out over doing it and burning muscle to achieve that look. I have been taking mega man extreme athlete and it definitely is helping. I see my chest and arms starting to get more and more muscular and i am cutting weight at a good rate. The only thing is i want something to stack with mega man since i feel like i could be getting a little more boost. I bought naNO vapor the pill form and after just browsing on this site im terrified to take it haha. I was just looking for some help for what to stack with mega man to give me some extra boost.

ace2400
10-21-2010, 11:27 AM
I have tried several pre-workout supplements. Here are my picks-

1. Superpump250 - Good Taste, Mixes easy& the pump is awesome My energy levels were highest on this without crash.

2. NO Xplode- Stimulating taste & nice pumps. But needed 2 scoops, and the worst part is that reduced my Blood pressure to 90/60!
Not for the average joe!

3. NO Shotgun- Incredible energy, lesser on pumps. But made me use the bathroom couple of times before every workout.
The good thing about this is , its got 20g of protein and is carb free!

So I think Superpump 250 from Gaspari is the best!

monk..
10-21-2010, 08:58 PM
I have tried several pre-workout supplements. Here are my picks-

1. Superpump250 - Good Taste, Mixes easy& the pump is awesome My energy levels were highest on this without crash.

2. NO Xplode- Stimulating taste & nice pumps. But needed 2 scoops, and the worst part is that reduced my Blood pressure to 90/60!
Not for the average joe!

3. NO Shotgun- Incredible energy, lesser on pumps. But made me use the bathroom couple of times before every workout.
The good thing about this is , its got 20g of protein and is carb free!

So I think Superpump 250 from Gaspari is the best!

oh...would you know if jack3d is as good?
Am thinking of trying Superpump 250 but I heard Jack3d is good as well...so wondering which is better since both are for pre-workout?

blynch923
10-23-2010, 04:23 PM
Anyone know the difference between Superpumo 250 and Superpump MAX?

Just finished up my Jack3d. It was an awesome supplement in the beginning but by the end even if I took 3 scoops I was not really feeling anything, just felt very fight after I would workout my muscles.

Now I am taking Muscle Pharm assault. My first impressions were it was the best tasting supplement I have ever taken. But it says mix 1 scoop with 12-14 oz or water I think. But one scoop is way too strong. BTW I am taking the Blue Raspberry flavor. I have taken it twice and I do not feel much energy or pump when I go to the gym.

I bought it from bb.com so does anyone know if they let you return an opened supplement? I know GNC lets you return an opened supplement.

Just trying to figure out what supplements to take next? Right now there is a sale on superpump 250 & max on ******** but I keep reading mixed reviews about that and also about WF.

Any help is appreciated.

TimLang
10-24-2010, 08:29 AM
After trying many, I have to go with Assault by Muscle Pharm...

I have to agree.. this is by far the best tasting PO ive had. im disapointed i ordered Presurge Unleashed.. it gives one hell of a kick.. but i dont like the taste

Dakota59
10-24-2010, 04:51 PM
JACK3D

5/5

best Pre/wo of ALL TIME. Period.

Yonkersguy
10-24-2010, 06:41 PM
to all White Flood users, I am going to purchase a tub of 100 servings within the next week, and I would like to know what flavor is the best one? I appreciated any advice on this. thank you.

blynch923
10-25-2010, 09:06 AM
need some advice. just finished jack3d about a week ago.. by the end of the tub i was taking 3 scoops and feeling minimal results. then i went on and ordered a buy 2 get 1 free assault. didnt really feel anything at all and i was taking the 1 scoop in 12 oz of water. now i returned that so i have a credit worth about 70$ to bb.com. need some advice as to what supplement to get next? i need some opinions on white flood, 1.m.r and also on hemo rage black. all help is appreciated

CONTROLLED LABS
10-25-2010, 09:38 AM
to all White Flood users, I am going to purchase a tub of 100 servings within the next week, and I would like to know what flavor is the best one? I appreciated any advice on this. thank you.

you cant go wrong with any of the flavors, but my favorite is fruit punch

intrusionzero
10-25-2010, 05:53 PM
you cant go wrong with any of the flavors, but my favorite is fruit punch

every flavor that controlled labs has is very unique, at least in my opinion. first few times you take it may throw you off a little bit but after that you love the flavor.

igilbert92
10-25-2010, 06:36 PM
N.O. xplode, taste great, sometimes not to expensive, taste, oh and turns you into a f*cking animal

CONTROLLED LABS
10-26-2010, 09:27 AM
every flavor that controlled labs has is very unique, at least in my opinion. first few times you take it may throw you off a little bit but after that you love the flavor.

I agree, from golden gains apple pie to white flood fruit punch, our products dont taste like any others on the market.

PKP417
10-26-2010, 12:27 PM
jack3d works best for me!

I usually workout later in the evenings. I work pretty long hours and to prevent 5am workouts, I usually workout after work - so I need a major boost. I've tried only a few things, NO Xplod, a few different pills, and ON's new AmiNO. I do need a higher dosage, usually 3 scoops, but it does the trick and works great without being tough on my wallet. Still open to try other items, but in my limited experience I found jack3d works great!

oodaloop
10-26-2010, 12:35 PM
N.O. xplode, taste great, sometimes not to expensive, taste, oh and turns you into a f*cking animal

I like Endorush and those little shooters they have now, too. I'm not sure it does much more than give me awesome energy, though.

michaelholdren
10-27-2010, 02:35 PM
Check out K-Otic from AAEFX. It's newly released, but they've been developing it for 3 years now. It's like adrenaline in a bottle.

oodaloop
10-27-2010, 02:52 PM
I know some people like the crack feeling, but to me, 'adrenalin in a bottle' sounds terrible.

doubled2321
10-27-2010, 07:43 PM
Im actually on K-Otic right now, its decent, nothing too special, and not "adrenaline in a bottle" in my opinion.

Superpump is still my favorite hands down.

Syava7
10-28-2010, 12:58 AM
I have a one sample (from my friend) VPX Shotgun,and i have a crazy workout,great pumps,and good energy!For me better than Jack3d

STiMPak
10-28-2010, 10:16 AM
I take N.O. Xplod right now and have for about 3 weeks. I thought it was the best stuff out there only because I haven't tried a pre workout supp before. Reading this though makes me really want to switch it up. It seems White Flood is very popular. I'm going to give that a try!

Thanks for all the input everybody!

Flex3d
10-28-2010, 07:36 PM
Jack3d for the pure energy.

White Flood for the endurance/focus/pump and less side-effects.

xavierdr
10-29-2010, 04:31 PM
I have heard so much of controlled labs that i decide to give it a try. i just purchase purple wraath and its ok, it gives me energy but i want to know if i can stack it with white flood, creatine and white blood.

Has Anyone try this before??

eman88mph
10-29-2010, 06:24 PM
Absolutely zero competition

scorcher
10-29-2010, 09:06 PM
I had heard so much good things about the white flood and I finally give it a try... First time taking it, I used one scoop before working out... Nil effect... Tried with one and a half the next time, also feel no different... No feel of focus, strength or pump, etc.. I think this thing got no effect on me...

Had tried maximize from I-force before, and it's a total different feel man.. Can feel the tingling, focus and so much energy... I wonder why bb.com took it off the rack...

I wonder what next... really wanna something with more kick... Jack3d??

RALC
10-30-2010, 10:58 PM
I've just tried a pre-workout supplement for the first time and I did it with NOXPUMP from Dorian Yates Nutrition, OMFG it was like a state of euphoria, very good thing.

CONTROLLED LABS
10-31-2010, 05:12 AM
I have heard so much of controlled labs that i decide to give it a try. i just purchase purple wraath and its ok, it gives me energy but i want to know if i can stack it with white flood, creatine and white blood.

Has Anyone try this before??
yes, you can stack it with all 3 of those :)

I had heard so much good things about the white flood and I finally give it a try... First time taking it, I used one scoop before working out... Nil effect... Tried with one and a half the next time, also feel no different... No feel of focus, strength or pump, etc.. I think this thing got no effect on me...

Had tried maximize from I-force before, and it's a total different feel man.. Can feel the tingling, focus and so much energy... I wonder why bb.com took it off the rack...

I wonder what next... really wanna something with more kick... Jack3d??
its suggested 1-2 scoops. try the full 2 scoops. most people like it best at that level. also, are you taking it with food? how long before you started using it had you finished the other stimulant preworkout?

scorcher
10-31-2010, 09:09 AM
yes, you can stack it with all 3 of those :)

its suggested 1-2 scoops. try the full 2 scoops. most people like it best at that level. also, are you taking it with food? how long before you started using it had you finished the other stimulant preworkout?

Hi, thanks for replying.. I tried 2 full scoops today.. Slightly better feeling as I can feel abit of the rush... Can i take more than 2 scoops?
For the past few days, I took it without food... on empty stomach before workout.. Should i take it after some food?
Haven been on pre-workout before except the maximize i mentioned which is a sample pack sent to me the last time... But i'm a heavy coffee drinker.. Does it cause the immunity?

jonsteckman
10-31-2010, 05:07 PM
Superpump 250 baby

CONTROLLED LABS
11-01-2010, 01:22 PM
Hi, thanks for replying.. I tried 2 full scoops today.. Slightly better feeling as I can feel abit of the rush... Can i take more than 2 scoops?
For the past few days, I took it without food... on empty stomach before workout.. Should i take it after some food?
Haven been on pre-workout before except the maximize i mentioned which is a sample pack sent to me the last time... But i'm a heavy coffee drinker.. Does it cause the immunity?

dont go above 2 scoops. try it with a small carb meal like a rice cake or granola bar. I would cut your coffee intake as well if its "heavy" as you described :)

scorcher
11-01-2010, 11:06 PM
dont go above 2 scoops. try it with a small carb meal like a rice cake or granola bar. I would cut your coffee intake as well if its "heavy" as you described :)

thanks.. will try it out...

Antrozous
11-01-2010, 11:16 PM
I like superpump 250 but Iv never tried white flood. Should do some research...

FlamingHomer
11-02-2010, 04:10 AM
about 10th week of cut i started on Omega sports Flash Over...I actully started to see strength gains...awesome product!

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11-02-2010, 05:47 PM
about 10th week of cut i started on Omega sports Flash Over...I actully started to see strength gains...awesome product!

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blynch923
11-04-2010, 01:12 PM
wow just took superpump 250 for the frist time. the fruit punch flavor is so good! 10/10 flavor wise. going to the gym in 25 mins. will post a review after i workout

mccoy19
11-04-2010, 06:18 PM
I've been using jack3d lately, and have been loving it.

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That's why everyone loves it, it's pretty good

BoWeDuPdiver
11-06-2010, 01:18 AM
That's why everyone loves it, it's pretty good

Went from N.O. Explode which sux and gives me headaches and sh!ts
to SP 250 good energy, good pump but got the sh!ts
to White Flood ok energy, good flavor, ok pumps, good stamina
to Jack3d outstanding energy, ok flavor, awesome stamina, pump not so good

DedMAZAI
11-07-2010, 03:36 AM
Thats what I've tryied:
On first position:
1) Superpump 250: Its just awesome
2) Hemo Rage black: Focus, kick, tons of energy, fat loss, and the best think it made my heard beat like crazy.
3) JP8: Very strong focus, and high energy levels
4) Jack3d and Warrior Rage: Simple focus, simple energy, good pumps
5) Shotgun V3: Kick, energy, fat loss, but no focus for me.
6) PreSurge Unleashed: kick, high energy levels, stupid focus, and it crashes
7) Ultima: focus, normal energy levels, but there are no stimulants, so u dont feel the boost

Every time i take only one scoop

stuckinbfe
11-08-2010, 06:37 AM
My current faves:

1) Cryoshock--- just finally got a chance to try this after being a huge fan of velocity xt, and WOW, definitely didnt disappoint. Strength gains, great taste (lemon-lime for life), mixability (something i took for granted until I didn't have it), and endurance through the roof, with no crash. Strictly superior.

2) Jack3d--- Great energy, mixes well, tastes good, good boost for my workout, although I found I liked it more when I stacked it with Green Mag or Cell Mass, the added creatine and less stim combo helped my pumps and strength considerably.

3) LG Anadraulic State GT--- tastes like dirt thats been boned by a hobo, mixes like pure chalky ass, but gave me great workouts, strength gains, and is a really solid product if you can stomach it.

4) Black Powder--- a good solid product, I still drop by GNC and grab a single stick if I forget my PWO and it does the trick with no BS.

nicko360
11-09-2010, 09:56 PM
I personally like NO xplode but it gives me the ****s every time I take it... lol ... but ive been taking Jack 3d, not as good a pump IMO, but not as much crap in it either

hatetoorun
11-10-2010, 02:13 PM
I have done a couple cycles with N.O. Explode and super pump 250, they start me off jittery and I crash 30mins into my workout.

I have been using MusclePharm Assault for a month now. All I can say is WOW! zero caffine, zero sugar and 100% crazy pumps in the gym. Tastes like candy and there is no crash. I have been able to push myself harder than ever before with Assault.

armensti
11-11-2010, 07:55 PM
so far i only tried jack3d and white flood

jack3d gave me great energy but it made me shaky

white flood gave me good energy (not as much as jack3d) great focus and great pump

the only downside of jack3d for me would be that it made me feel bloated but white flood doesnt do that so i prefer white flood.

CrazyRower
11-13-2010, 04:52 AM
No-Xplode
Super Focus
Xploding Pumps

Shinny
11-13-2010, 09:37 AM
New here. I'm not sure what everyone means by pump. Anyone care to explain?

bigassmass
11-14-2010, 12:03 PM
My favorite is Razor8 Rush from Allmax

pimp7308
11-14-2010, 02:53 PM
New here. I'm not sure what everyone means by pump. Anyone care to explain?

Arnold Schwarzenegger: The greatest feeling you can get in a gym, or the most satisfying feeling you can get in the gym is... The Pump. Let's say you train your biceps. Blood is rushing into your muscles and that's what we call The Pump. You muscles get a really tight feeling, like your skin is going to explode any minute, and it's really tight - it's like somebody blowing air into it, into your muscle. It just blows up, and it feels really different. It feels fantastic.

from pumping iron

Shinny
11-14-2010, 06:44 PM
Arnold Schwarzenegger: The greatest feeling you can get in a gym, or the most satisfying feeling you can get in the gym is... The Pump. Let's say you train your biceps. Blood is rushing into your muscles and that's what we call The Pump. You muscles get a really tight feeling, like your skin is going to explode any minute, and it's really tight - it's like somebody blowing air into it, into your muscle. It just blows up, and it feels really different. It feels fantastic.

from pumping iron

Ahh, gotcha. Thanks man!

xStevenx
11-15-2010, 09:32 AM
My favorite is Razor8 Rush from Allmax

Razor8 Blast Powder

if you are looking for energy, this is where it is. 1/2 scoop is plenty

ZrankFrane
11-22-2010, 08:35 PM
Arnold Schwarzenegger: The greatest feeling you can get in a gym, or the most satisfying feeling you can get in the gym is... The Pump. Let's say you train your biceps. Blood is rushing into your muscles and that's what we call The Pump. You muscles get a really tight feeling, like your skin is going to explode any minute, and it's really tight - it's like somebody blowing air into it, into your muscle. It just blows up, and it feels really different. It feels fantastic.

from pumping iron

SO epic.

I've tried Jack3d and NO explode. Stopped using NO because it gave me stomach aches during my workout. Been using Jack3d for a couple months and i'm really liking it. Great pumps and energy.

mrericc69
11-22-2010, 09:29 PM
Betancourt Bullnox FTW!

coopdogg369
11-22-2010, 10:06 PM
I have tried NO Shotgun, White Flood, and Jack3d but all of these make me so jittery. Personally i think its to much caffeine. however i also tried Body Storm recently and i like it a lot. I'm very focused and helps get that last little push.

Dibatista
11-23-2010, 09:02 AM
I have used alot of pre workout supps, and I build a tolerance to all of them over time, so it is totally normal. Usually by the end of a cycle I am up to around three scoops per use. That's why I take a couple weeks off between cycles, to flush my system off all the caffeine and other stuff lol. Now I do feel that white flood works the best tho, its all a personal pref. Think of it like alcohol man, at first you get a buzz from 2 beers, later on, it takes 6 to even feel it.https://www.fitnessphreaks.info/workout/upload/34/b/happy.gif

I like that example, I also find when I first start up with most of these supps it usually makes me **** a lot more when I first start using it, but after awhile my body gets used to it and it's clear sailing after that.

thebicepguy
11-23-2010, 10:29 AM
I have tried NO Shotgun, White Flood, and Jack3d but all of these make me so jittery. Personally i think its to much caffeine. however i also tried Body Storm recently and i like it a lot. I'm very focused and helps get that last little push.



You might also take a look at what you ate before taking the suppplement. If you felt tingly or bugs were under your skin when you tried Jack3D that is normal and its just a reaction to your body. Also, it usually goes away when you start pumping or run for 5-10 min. It won't happen all the time. On the other hand, if its too much caffeine start your intake with a lesser dose and your body will adapt as you push yourself in the gym.

GoldenGains
11-23-2010, 10:51 PM
fruit juice w. hydrolyzed protein

IRONsMate
11-29-2010, 12:52 PM
Jack3d.

jarion04
11-29-2010, 04:29 PM
I have used NO Explode... started giving me headaches. Switched to the Super Pump250... no more head aches, tastes better, no jitters and good motivation and focus... I love it

iKriss
11-30-2010, 11:11 AM
I personally prefer white flood and jack3d

I tried dark rage for about a week and am pretty sure I could get more energy off green tea.
Also tastes disgusting, nasty. Bad pumps, and you just dont feel it.

elfie7x
11-30-2010, 06:00 PM
Assault is the best. I've also tried Superpump 250, 1MR, White Flood, Jack3d, PreSurge Unleashed, and NO Xplode.

TexasBlues78
11-30-2010, 09:22 PM
I want to put in my vote for Animal Pump. I've tried NO Xplode, Jack3d, White Flood, Muscle Prime, and Super Pump Max so far and none of these touch Animal Pump in terms of skin-tearing pumps. Plus, I like that the energy is smooth and controlled so you don't feel all jittery and nauseous.

I don't have anything against some of the other products I mentioned. I still use some of them from time to time and I'm very happy with them, but Animal Pump is definitely my go-to pre-workout supplement.

dago85
12-01-2010, 12:02 PM
I want to put in my vote for Animal Pump. I've tried NO Xplode, Jack3d, White Flood, Muscle Prime, and Super Pump Max so far and none of these touch Animal Pump in terms of skin-tearing pumps. Plus, I like that the energy is smooth and controlled so you don't feel all jittery and nauseous.

I don't have anything against some of the other products I mentioned. I still use some of them from time to time and I'm very happy with them, but Animal Pump is definitely my go-to pre-workout supplement.


did you stack with ANIMAL M-STACK?

branpureza
12-02-2010, 10:39 AM
I've been using SuperPump for a while and it works great. Just recently switched to Jack3d and it's pretty tough to beat for the price point and the taste. Both seem to work really well for me. I do have one question for you guys though:

Has anyone else experienced a little itchiness after taking Jack3d?

My butt, scalp, and face get a little tingly/itchy about 30 mins after taking it. I don't mind it at all and it's barely noticeable but it is definitely a side effect for me. The product works great.

itacalcio
12-02-2010, 03:29 PM
I have taken NO-Xplode and Jack3d with their recommended dosages. Then I took them exceeding those dosages and still felt absolutely nothing during my workouts.

Then I turned to Hemo Rage Black, wow it actually felt like something was happening. The pumps were awesome, my focus was great and it seemed like I had more endurance during my lifts to press out the extra couple of reps.

Once I finished that I bought the new Hemo Rage ultra concentrated version..My review of that is this equation. Hemo Rage Black times 2. It's amazing. Try it.

TexasBlues78
12-02-2010, 05:36 PM
did you stack with ANIMAL M-STACK?

I'm just stacking it with regular Animal Stak right now, but I'm thinking about trying M-Stak next time. Have you tried it?

youngdyno
12-02-2010, 06:00 PM
After trying many preworkout supplements this one is it for me. It supplies a steady amount of energy and drive within me over the course of my workout rather than striking me up like a match and allowing me to burn out unexpectingly like so with other preworkout supplements such as Jack3d or No Xplode. Until something better comes along I am and will continue ASSAULTing every workout I indulge in.

"Pain is weakness leaving the body."

turbose7en
12-02-2010, 07:21 PM
I've tried NO Xplode, Jack3d, AmiNO Energy, NO Shotgun... I prefer NO Shotgun the most. AmiNO is probably my least favorite as I don't really get the pump as I do with the others. I also see myself using so many scoops to get any effect. Same goes with NO Xplode, I have to use 2-3 scoops. Sometimes NO Xplode doesn't sit well in my stomach. Jack3d is nice and usually one scoop does the trick. NO Shotgun has so far been my favorite! The pumps and energy is always there and I've been using it for over a month now! It's only one scoop and I haven't felt the need to up the dosage. Also the added protein in NO Shotgun is nice bonus!

dago85
12-03-2010, 05:03 AM
I'm just stacking it with regular Animal Stak right now, but I'm thinking about trying M-Stak next time. Have you tried it?

yes, it's amazing... i love universal products..

m-stack and regular animal stack are differents..

animal stack is a testo booster and M-STACK is a anabolic stimulator

elfie7x
12-04-2010, 12:50 PM
I have done a couple cycles with N.O. Explode and super pump 250, they start me off jittery and I crash 30mins into my workout.

I have been using MusclePharm Assault for a month now. All I can say is WOW! zero caffine, zero sugar and 100% crazy pumps in the gym. Tastes like candy and there is no crash. I have been able to push myself harder than ever before with Assault.
Assault has caffeine, but it's not as much as a lot of other pre-workout supplements. All the ingredients seem perfectly dosed to provide an amazing synergy of effects. Assault is currently my favorite as well. I'm in love with the blue arctic raspberry flavor.

oomph
12-04-2010, 03:59 PM
Nano X9 and/or nano vapor

5tharrow
12-05-2010, 04:24 PM
so far i only tried jack3d and white flood

jack3d gave me great energy but it made me shaky

white flood gave me good energy (not as much as jack3d) great focus and great pump

the only downside of jack3d for me would be that it made me feel bloated but white flood doesnt do that so i prefer white flood.

This is pretty much my experience. I'll give a little mini comparison after a tub of White Flood and about half a tub of Jack3d using various dosages:

Taste: Jack3d Lemon-lime beats White Flood Lemon for me hands down. Jack3d has an aftertaste, but White Flood taste like Prestone.

Energy: White Flood actually wins here and I'm surprised. Jack3d gave me the jitters, stomach upset, and a hard crash. I felt no tingle either for what it's worth. White Flood makes my face tingle (doesn't matter at all to me but just sayin') and sometimes I have to make myself leave the gym after taking it. I can feel destroyed after my last set, but 5 minutes later I want to do it all over again. I get no crash and no jitters with White Flood.

Pump: White Flood again. It's close, and tough to compare, but only on White Flood can I actually feel almost restricted movement because of a pump.

Focus: I'm throwing this in because it seems to always be discussed. I've never tried to complete a math exam after taking either one of these products; I really don't know what I'm supposed to feel as far as focus goes. I can focus on what I'm doing without taking anything. I will say that the Jack3d stomach upset and jittery feeling was a bit distracting, however.

Having said this, my work-out partner gets totally different results. He swears by Jack3d and White Flood to him is just so-so.

These products react differently for different people so it's best to sample several to find the one that works best for you. I like the reviews, and they are helpful to get a general idea of what you can expect, but until you try something yourself you never know for sure.

I've also tried NO Shotgun and NanoVapor and would have to rate them in this order:

White Flood
NO Shotgun
Jack3d
NanoVapor

Peace

youngdyno
12-08-2010, 02:17 PM
After trying many preworkout supplements this one is it for me. It supplies a steady amount of energy and drive within me over the course of my workout rather than striking me up like a match and allowing me to burn out unexpectingly like so with many other preworkout supplements. Pros- Pumps: 1/5- Not necessary for an awesome workout Energy: 4/5- Substained energy rather than overwhelming. Focus: 5/5- Most notably feature Recovery: 5/5- Signicantly cuts down recovery time in between sets. Cons- Taste: 2/5- Too sweet :( Expensive: $35 for 20 servings?! WTF Rough on stomach, the beginning of my third week the ill stomach effects dissipated. Finally, it has an overpowering sweet taste and the Beta Alkaline level is high causing heavy itching the first week of taking this product. Until something better comes along I am and will continue ASSAULTing every workout I indulge in.

"Pain is weakness leaving the body."[/QUOTE]

mrbiggstuff444
12-08-2010, 05:31 PM
I would have to say N.O xplode is the best for the following reason: it tastes the best, dissolves the best, easier to push your last reps. I have tried many pre-workouts but this would of had to been the best.

jetlynk
12-11-2010, 06:35 PM
For years it was S.A.N. fierce for me. Was the only one I'd tried that worked. Now Mutant Rage trumps it big time for me. Tastes awesome with no upset stomache.

bigshades
12-13-2010, 07:57 AM
i like GASPARI's superpump250 the best. im curently taking BSN's NO Xplode and MUSCELTECH's NaNo Vapor. i switch off NO Xplode 1 week then NaNo Vapor the next. id say ther all about the same wen it comes to the energy and focus but the superpump250 has way better pumps. like i dont think i get any pumps from the NO Xplode or NaNo Vapor. the NaNo Vapor i seem to get that deep burning feel when i hit the fatiuge mark and man it hurts but its a good hurt like u can feel yor muscel is actually burntout. like i leve the gym and its hard to lift my protien shake. and if u didnt know GASPARI'S SuperPump250 won the 2010 Muscel Builder of The Year Award. sum people cant stomach these products and in that case i would just lower the dose and build yor tolerance to it. if u cant take 1 scoop try 1/2 or 1/4. i kno sum ppl that will try 3-4 scoops ther 1st time trying 1of these products and end up throwing up. u should also try eating a lil sum thing b4 that helps too. i hear alot about that jack3d and i used to wanna try it untill my buddy tryed my superpump250 and gave his jack3d away wen we left the gym.

krypto
12-16-2010, 02:24 PM
I've been using SuperPump for a while and it works great. Just recently switched to Jack3d and it's pretty tough to beat for the price point and the taste. Both seem to work really well for me. I do have one question for you guys though:

Has anyone else experienced a little itchiness after taking Jack3d?

My butt, scalp, and face get a little tingly/itchy about 30 mins after taking it. I don't mind it at all and it's barely noticeable but it is definitely a side effect for me. The product works great.

what you are feeling is the beta alanine in jack3d. I just mix creatine with the beta alanine and it gives me the same rush as jack3d. l-arginine would be great in this mix but it taste like shh333t.

wilermke
12-17-2010, 06:59 AM
Assault is most complete pre-workout on market IMO with 5g of creatine and 4g of beta alanine, it tastes great and gives me insane workouts.

rowdy8398
12-17-2010, 08:38 AM
Too bad there isn;t a poll on this listing the different types. I get the idea the White Flood has the biggest following but I could only read a handful of posts.
As for me, I liked the NO Explode but will try superpump 250 when I get back after the New Year.

wuhantang
12-17-2010, 01:10 PM
I would have to say N.O xplode is the best for the following reason: it tastes the best, dissolves the best, easier to push your last reps. I have tried many pre-workouts but this would of had to been the best.

xplode is okay, but i gotta take like 2-3 scoops now which i dont like.

by far the best pre-workout drink i had is BPI 1MR, you only need 1 scoop, and it honestly feels the same as u have taken 3 scoops of explode or superpump.

matty_123
12-17-2010, 01:54 PM
I have tried No explode, SP250 and Jack3d

and I can say that nothing can compare to jack3d fantastic stuff!

dago85
12-18-2010, 05:13 AM
for me, jack 3d is good for focus and energy, but 0 pump

whitesox23
12-18-2010, 08:41 AM
For the $ I think Flashover is the ****! ~$22 for 45 servings with a great profile and exact amounts of ingrdients listed.

Epithet
12-23-2010, 02:32 PM
I have tried Dymatize Xpand Xtreme Pump, BSN NO Xplode and VPX NO Shotgun. Here are the results:

Taste: Xpand Xtreme (blue raspberry) and NO Xplode (fruit punch) tasted amazing. NO Shotgun (watermelon) tasted like crap

Pump: Xpand Xtreme gave me a good pump, NO Shotgun a great one, NO Xplode not so much

Energy: Xpand Xtreme was perfect. Did not feel a thing with NO Xplode, and NO shotgun made me feel like I had 3g of caffeine. I felt a bit high and it was really uncomfortable.

Verdict: Dymatize Xtreme Xpand is my favorite. It gave me a good pump, strength went up and I felt energized throughout the whole workout. It did not make me crash afterwards, and I did not even once experience stomach issues

Gery_Sowet
12-23-2010, 05:07 PM
Super pump max!

Asc14
12-23-2010, 05:14 PM
I would say superpump 250 first pre-workout i have ever tried and it's incredible...noticed a big difference...can't wait to try out MAX!

namack2
12-25-2010, 09:48 PM
I have used Jacked lately and am getting good results. I travel a lot and the container is easy to pack

Tulips
12-26-2010, 05:05 PM
I used Jack3d for about a year until I got introduced to the all mighty Hemo Rage Ultra Concentrate .. Id say HRUC

blown81bu
12-29-2010, 07:18 AM
I was on superpump 250 for 6 weeks..i been on max for the last 6 weeks and almost done with the tub..im going back to 250 i think it worked better..seems like the max is doing nothing now

steezyt
12-29-2010, 12:40 PM
i just picked up some vasocor, a little expensive but out of the 3 that i tried its definitely the best for me. it takes my pumps to the next level and keeps me awake, what more could i ask for?

in4thelulz
12-29-2010, 02:08 PM
If you had to pick just ONE pre-workout product for energy and/or pump, what would be the best one?

Please pick the product and include the brand. Give your reasons. The best answers will be displayed on the main Bodybuilding.com site for millions of people to see!

(Note: This is not a discussion about how or when to take pre-workout products, if you should take pre-workout products, or why some pre-workout products are NOT good. Just list your absolute favorite pre-workout product and give your detailed reason.)

Cellucore's NO Zero is the best pre work out. Has a little bit of caffine to stimulate the CNS, a good amount of Beta Alanine to get you that rush and energy and the arganine level is a bit higher then the average pre work out so the pump is undeniable. 40 servings in the can for about 50 bucks at gnc not to bad of a value but the flavor is great too.

in4thelulz
12-29-2010, 02:10 PM
Super pump max!

Super pump isnt terrible but compared to newer products it a little out of date. there is a large level of maltodextrin and fillers... no good to constantly consume but over all super pump is worth taking. you should try Cellucore NO Zero or something like C4

in4thelulz
12-29-2010, 02:16 PM
xplode is okay, but i gotta take like 2-3 scoops now which i dont like.

by far the best pre-workout drink i had is BPI 1MR, you only need 1 scoop, and it honestly feels the same as u have taken 3 scoops of explode or superpump.

yeah and you need to be careful with NO explode. Very very high levels of caffine and maltodextrin that in can lead to heart palpitations or kidney problems. bsn just went through a lawsuit that sent hundreds to hospital

tannersp
12-30-2010, 12:15 PM
i personaly like the energized expand ...pill ......the plasma jet works great to but with high cost in price ...bsn no xplode works great aswell

ThexFallen
12-30-2010, 11:06 PM
BSN: No Explode: OK reps/pump, ok energy gain, not a complete waste of money, but the way you have to take it sucks.


Muscle Tech:NaNo Vapor: About the same effect as No Explode (maybe a bit better), less time to take effect, Taking it is not such a pain in the ass (only once before workout, no constant loading like NO Explode)

Jack3D: biggest crap ever. Huge energy load, but 0 pump. It's just cheap and packed full of stimulants. That's the only reason why people like it. Other than that, it's garbage. Don't waste your money on it


Cellucor N5: Ok. You can tell when it kicks in cause the niacin tingle's your entire body. Nice Pump, decent energy but nothing special. It's not worth the money.


Super Pump Max: Owns. Top product, end of story. If you haven't tried it, please do so.

dago85
12-31-2010, 04:37 AM
Maybe few people tried NUTRABOLIC HEMORUSH, but for me is the best pre-wo of ever...remember me Nutrabolics DECA-STACK also great product but out of stock now wherever :(

bigted777
12-31-2010, 07:20 PM
Jack3d

burningbuilding
12-31-2010, 07:25 PM
Did anyone like Animal Pump?
I thought the pump was great and the energy from it was pretty good too, it didnt make you feel cracked out like noxplode did to me.
The Price isnt to bad for 30 serv.
All the pills you have to take tho sucks, but thats all of animals products.

AlphaBrass01
01-01-2011, 07:05 AM
Did anyone like Animal Pump?
I thought the pump was great and the energy from it was pretty good too, it didnt make you feel cracked out like noxplode did to me.
The Price isnt to bad for 30 serv.
All the pills you have to take tho sucks, but thats all of animals products.

Animal Pump is my favorite.

BB-Guy
01-01-2011, 11:10 AM
White Flood

BeRelentless23
01-01-2011, 07:42 PM
Ideal Pump

jquintinjr
01-01-2011, 08:19 PM
tried LIT UP yesterday check out my review in my sig. damn good

Timj1985
01-02-2011, 01:43 PM
I personally like no shotgun, it gives good energy and also has 20g protein per serving. Lately I have have been using N2KTS and it is very potent stuff, comparable to the original Jacked, but better tasting. There are so many out there these days, no way I could ever try them all lol

ibrahimy
01-02-2011, 09:42 PM
anyone who hasn't tried hemo-rage UC obviously does not know what a real preworkout is supposed to be like

wilermke
01-03-2011, 09:58 AM
Assault does it for me.

NYJMuscle
01-03-2011, 05:13 PM
I've tried jack3d and ravage. Both give me great energy but I get more focus from ravage.

loco_desk
01-04-2011, 02:05 AM
I've tried jack3d and Hemo Rage UC and i prefeer Hemo Rage UC , hemo rage gives me more power sensation .

PostStuff
01-04-2011, 07:33 AM
My current favorite is Dymatize Xpand Xtreme (Good taste, good energy, and good pumps).

I also like San Fierce (Good taste, good energy, and good pumps). SP250 did a number on my stomach, and I'm unimpressed with Jack3d.

Worst I've taken: Dark Rage.

Melamed
01-04-2011, 09:09 AM
From your experience with this products which one was the most effective?
1. White Flood
2. Jack3d
3. MR1
4. Dymatize Xpand Xtreme
5. Superpump

I want to but at the first time pre workout product but so many opinions about this issue and I really dont know what to buy at the first time.
I know that every product effects in a different way on any person.

namack2
01-04-2011, 09:44 AM
Jacked and Superpump work best for me
Followed by NO Explode NT
NO Shotgun gave me the least results

nalder89
01-04-2011, 10:19 AM
Assault is most complete pre-workout on market IMO with 5g of creatine and 4g of beta alanine, it tastes great and gives me insane workouts.

not true :) on the public market - APS's Mesomorph has a more complete formula.

On the Private market.. The stuff I make is even better :)

Melamed
01-04-2011, 10:53 AM
Jacked and Superpump work best for me
Followed by NO Explode NT
NO Shotgun gave me the least results

Jack3d and Superpump are the best?
Or there are some other products that I didnt mention?

bringit419
01-04-2011, 12:42 PM
Tried White flood, 1.M.R., and jacked. That is how I would rank them in that order. Liked the 1.M.R but the taste was terrible. The flood tastes great (both lemonade and fruit punch) and it does the job for me.

atomhammons
01-04-2011, 10:45 PM
aight im currently using platinum pump fuel which is supposed to be amazing.. anyone heard of it? i dont feel a thing.. i got like two servings left n im through with the tub. big waste of money. (for me) im also taking a supplement called turinavol by aps.. wonderin if anyone knew anything bout that.. just started so not gna comment yet. i just ordered white flood so ill post an update about it after i see what it does.. i just want someone to tell me what gives the biggest pumps.? i got plenty of energy n stamina.. i just want pumps! anyone? anyone?

Melamed
01-05-2011, 04:02 AM
What about kre-alkalyn?

dago85
01-05-2011, 04:19 AM
What about kre-alkalyn?

it isn't a pre-wo supplement..

Melamed
01-05-2011, 04:49 AM
it isn't a pre-wo supplement..

Weird becuase I saw lot of suggestions about this product to pre-workout.
Do you have pre workout supplement that you can recommend?

dago85
01-05-2011, 05:27 AM
for me, the best pre-wo is HEMORUSH nutrabolics... but also jack3d or white flood are good

Melamed
01-05-2011, 05:54 AM
Thanks man those are the two products that I was thinking about.(Jack3d and white flood/SP MAX)

seanality
01-05-2011, 07:22 AM
Jack3d all the way. I tried some others and I wasn't too happy with the feeling or taste.

dago85
01-05-2011, 11:37 AM
Thanks man those are the two products that I was thinking about.(Jack3d and white flood/SP MAX)


jack 3D works well,good focus and strength but in my case 0 pump and rebound effects after workout...

white flood is better imao,

i'm curious about SP MAX but it isn't available in EUROPE and i don't know how many time i have to wait

atomhammons
01-05-2011, 05:59 PM
Weird becuase I saw lot of suggestions about this product to pre-workout.
Do you have pre workout supplement that you can recommend?

kre-alkaline is just another form of creatine. supposed to be the new n improved.. n from my experience, nobodys recommendations mean anything. everyones different.. try em out n see which is best for you. thats what im doin. --white flood, animal pump, superpump250, ragnarok, no shotgun, nanovapor, shock therapy.. good luck!

Pump Freak 86
01-05-2011, 09:10 PM
I'm lactose intolerant and I don't want to take anything with caffeine in it. Any suggestions on a preworkout product for me?

FightinDaFight
01-05-2011, 11:22 PM
Got my WF on the way. Hope it lives up to the hype!

Matt C
01-08-2011, 04:46 AM
I would not recommend SuperPump Max [which is just as "****ty" as the original]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zMhfXVx9dU

8zMhfXVx9dU

But SIZEON by Gaspari remains the best supplement that I have ever tried.

Also, I think Spirodex by Gaspari is great for energy, although it is not intended to pump you up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEaeXdLOFwk

eEaeXdLOFwk

I will post a new supplement video review every Monday and hopefully improve as each new video is made until I get the format down.

mattvb3313
01-09-2011, 12:00 PM
Depends what you're looking for, I'm taking Jack3d right now for the first time and I love it. I've used NO-xplode, superpump, and Nano Vapor and out of those three I'd say
1. Nano Vapor
2. Super Pump
3. No-xplode

My body seemed to get used to the affect of superpump and no-xplode faster than Nano Vapor


From your experience with this products which one was the most effective?
1. White Flood
2. Jack3d
3. MR1
4. Dymatize Xpand Xtreme
5. Superpump

I want to but at the first time pre workout product but so many opinions about this issue and I really dont know what to buy at the first time.
I know that every product effects in a different way on any person.

unlcebubby
01-09-2011, 02:01 PM
I tried A LOT of the Pre-workouts and most def the craziest one is DARK RAGE!!! ..after researching stuff though i realized a lot of that stuff in the drinks isnt that good. So i now make my own custom drinks :)

shaf_nz
01-09-2011, 07:32 PM
How does the new NO-Xplode compare to Superpump250? Not the new MAX superpump or whatever its called, the one before that?

Cheers

shmitchell
01-09-2011, 11:05 PM
hemo rage has won me over lately

Hemo rage
jack3d
no explode r really good

shmitchell
01-09-2011, 11:07 PM
How does the new NO-Xplode compare to Superpump250? Not the new MAX superpump or whatever its called, the one before that?

Cheers

I think the new no explode is better.....superpump is good tho good pumps not quite as good as no explode but superpump will give u mad sh*ts. At least it did me ...had me feeling like i was gonna throw up all nite. Everybody is different tho so u may try it and it maybe the best for u.

shaf_nz
01-09-2011, 11:09 PM
I think the new no explode is better.....superpump is good tho good pumps not quite as good as no explode but superpump will give u mad sh*ts. At least it did me ...had me feeling like i was gonna throw up all nite. Everybody is different tho so u may try it and it maybe the best for u.

Cool, it says the dosage should be between 1-3 scoops, how much do most of you fellas take?

DazzlaUK
01-11-2011, 10:13 AM
Do you guys cycle your preworkouts? I only take mine on training days and I've basically been taking SP 250 for like 7-8 months in a row now. Should I be taking a week off in there or just switch it up and take a different one now and then go back on SP 250?

For me:

1. SP 250
2. Jack3d
3. NO Xplod

patrick4588
01-11-2011, 12:00 PM
get super pump max. 250 is mediocre. sp max is in a whole different realm.

unlcebubby
01-11-2011, 04:29 PM
Cool, it says the dosage should be between 1-3 scoops, how much do most of you fellas take?

Id be carefull and start with one..and also dont over due it, because the old bottles said take it on non-workout days also. And i did that and got real sick and my heartbeat was all weird.

rmmm3
01-12-2011, 03:22 AM
Hello fellows!

beginning sp 250 max today! what dosage? 1 or 1,5 spoons?
should i take every day or only in training days?

i will post my experience here later!

thanks in advance for your anwsers!

kevans74
01-12-2011, 10:11 AM
! MR = preworkout of the gods

redfury23
01-12-2011, 08:02 PM
Recently I let all the emails get to me and i did the $2.99 muscle warfare trial package. If anyone else is considering this too just make sure you save their number because you have to call them after you get the package and cancel your subscription because it automatically sets you up to recieve the entire stack every month for around 200$.
But as for the supplements, i expected them to be junky since i get an email about the trial at least every other day so i thought itd just be one of those products that are marketed like crazy but dont live up to the hype. Surprisingly, i was blown away at the feeling of intensity and pump I had after taking the pre workout. I took it along with the NO supplement that is part of the stack and in about 40 minutes it started kicking in. As i said, the energy and focus i got from taking the preworkout was unlike anything ive gotten from other supplements and the pump was insane. I would definitely recommend that you try out the trial its only 3$ and you definately get your moneys worth. just make sure to cancel the monthly order

ohsigmachi
01-13-2011, 07:43 PM
I'm going to cast my vote for Anabolic Addiction's IMPAC.

I ran a log of this and incorporated it into a PCT for an H-drol and Stanodrol run, and holy schnikies! The PR's just kept on coming! Great energy, awesome focus and aggression; pretty much everything I want in a Pre-WO.

my log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=129170211

OverdoseATL
01-14-2011, 10:23 AM
No-Shotgun, by far the best. Have tried all of them and there are alot of good ones but noshotgun is simply the best

brandonprovost
01-14-2011, 10:36 AM
I heard jack3d is pretty good I've been using NOexplode it works good for me but I'm always open to try other things

deanUK1
01-16-2011, 04:34 AM
After reading through the thread, I'm pretty suprised to see more people haven't tried NOXpump. I gave it a try on recommendation from a friend, and it was beyond amazing. It felt like I had more power and energy, and just kept going during my time at the gym.

I tried a sample of NO-Xplode after I ran out of this, and it comes nowhere near. Ordered some jack3d since everyone is raving about it. Can't wait.

thebigt2
01-16-2011, 09:31 AM
aps-mesomorph. the best damned pre-workout i have ever tried.

rmmm3
01-16-2011, 10:01 AM
Hello fellows!

4 days with sp 250 max (2 training days and two non) 1,5 spoon on train d and 1 spoon on non train. it really kicks you off!, it´s soon to say but i think the levels of energy are more high from jack 3d & by far from no xplode! Feel on the leg day was great! await from the second week experience!

DCv2
01-17-2011, 11:24 AM
I've tried White Flood, Hyper Shock, NO Explode, Torque, and APS Mesomorph is still the best in my opinion

ahmad100
01-17-2011, 11:26 PM
hello everyone ...am new here ...well i need to know for professional goals can u relyon supplements ...I have quit competitions coz of riods ..want to grow with a best combination... lastly was using mono-hydrate and animal nitro ..please guide .....n have a great time

R389
01-20-2011, 08:04 PM
APS Mesomorph. I have literally tried every product and each and every one does have an effect. Listen, while using Mesomorph my a55 actually gets so into my lifting that I growl and get incredibly "angry like". I lift in my garage so it's ok lol. My experience is raw power from head to toe!

hailmary
01-20-2011, 09:46 PM
Superpum 250 Gaspari...not many stimulants i feel a clean jump and awesome pump when workin out.

Samamo
01-20-2011, 10:57 PM
I've just started using Creatine Monohydrate by Vital Strength. Might be a psychological thing but as soon as its down I feel ready to work out :D

rebelrunner26
01-21-2011, 02:39 AM
I was a hardcore Jack3d fan til the immunity factor started kicking in. 2.5-3 scoops still gets the job done, but after you've used it for a few weeks that little bit extra of a kick is definitely lacking. Great focus and decent pumps...definitely more energy/focused-based imo.

Nitro NCG is pretty good stuff too... Just make sure you only ever take the nitro on an empty stomach. 2 scoops of it (no jack3d) with even the slightest bit of food made for a rough night (hard crash...complete loss of focus, super light-headed, just a strong desire to just throw up everywhere and pass out, but you're still energized).

1.5-2 scoops of jack3d with 1 scoop of Nitro NCG is my favorite PWO blend to date.

Hollowkid
01-21-2011, 07:08 AM
i think the best one is milk.

Crazyeyes221
01-21-2011, 07:33 AM
I think the best lately would be Muscle Marinade.. As for now, I'm using VPX Anarchy and that seems to work pretty well.. It's really strong too and at $20 for 35 FULL servings.. not bad.. noticed that it gets me a bit fidgety lol

tritrain21
01-21-2011, 10:50 AM
I can't decide whether or not i like Jack3d better or Super Pump Max. They both do the job for me when it comes to pre workout energy.

dago85
01-21-2011, 12:26 PM
I can't decide whether or not i like Jack3d better or Super Pump Max. They both do the job for me when it comes to pre workout energy.

0 pump with jack3d IMAO

hvfc6040
01-21-2011, 11:17 PM
0 pump with jack3d IMAO

Jacked took me 3 scoops before I felt ANYTHING at all. I switched to MP Assault, and I was very impressed. Used a whole jug of it and switched to white flood...that $h!t SUCKED. Tasted nasty and I felt nothing from it. I am on my 3rd day now of black powder, it is somewhat comparable to Assault, but I will deffinately be switching back to assault when i am done with the black powder.

klouud
01-22-2011, 11:36 AM
All of these pre-workout supps sound great... and I love my super pump 250, but all of them include Sucralose. Is there a pre-workout supp that does not include Sucralose, aspartame, processed sugar, or artificial sweeteners/colors?

NeverBackDown92
01-23-2011, 03:32 AM
Assault is the best pre-workout I have taken so far. I have taken Jack3d before, nanovapor and a few others and I feel as if I got the best pumps and longest lasting ones with Assault and when you look at the ingrediants in Assault, they have effective doses of what you need. It has like 3 or 4 different forms of creatine i think and about 5 grams and not much caffeine either imo. it also has 4 grams of beta alanine

ka_of_fire
01-23-2011, 07:14 AM
I've tried over 40 different preworkout formulas and stacks and I don't know whether my body has built a tolerance to them or what but nothing works anymore and I try cycling off of them but that doesn't help either. To recent memory I've tried : Jack3d, Hemorage, Fasttwitch, N.O Shotgun, Juggernaut, Ravange, Assault, Superpump Max, Armageddon, N.O Explode, and several others along the way but none of them really give me the feeling of want to go into a gym and tear the weights to pieces, most of the them just make me sleepy after about 50 minutes or so. Any ideals of good bands or stacks to get around this?

Cgilles1
01-23-2011, 11:37 AM
I can't decide whether or not i like Jack3d better or Super Pump Max. They both do the job for me when it comes to pre workout energy.

Superpump is a better overall product because of the larger doses of creatine and added bcaa's. Jack3d, however, is a good pre if you are just looking for energy and motivation. It just depends in what you want from your preworkout.

thebigt2
01-23-2011, 12:09 PM
I've tried over 40 different preworkout formulas and stacks and I don't know whether my body has built a tolerance to them or what but nothing works anymore and I try cycling off of them but that doesn't help either. To recent memory I've tried : Jack3d, Hemorage, Fasttwitch, N.O Shotgun, Juggernaut, Ravange, Assault, Superpump Max, Armageddon, N.O Explode, and several others along the way but none of them really give me the feeling of want to go into a gym and tear the weights to pieces, most of the them just make me sleepy after about 50 minutes or so. Any ideals of good bands or stacks to get around this?

APS-mesomorph. on 2nd jug and no tolerance build up.

dex26
01-23-2011, 12:16 PM
acg3 or SP max.

DFS200
01-23-2011, 04:46 PM
1MR is the best pre workout supp I have ever tried.

Xyas
01-23-2011, 06:28 PM
What's the difference between Superpump 250 and Superpump MAX?

Cgilles1
01-24-2011, 03:36 AM
What's the difference between Superpump 250 and Superpump MAX?

Its my understanding. That sp Max has less stimulants but more Anabolic ingredients to actually help muscle gain more than just giving the user energy and motivation. Sp Max has the added bcaa, citruline, and creatine to assist in gaining muscle

dex26
01-24-2011, 02:07 PM
I think Max also has more flavors than sp 250? Or did they have pink lemonade with sp 250 also?

ohsigmachi
01-24-2011, 06:44 PM
All of these pre-workout supps sound great... and I love my super pump 250, but all of them include Sucralose. Is there a pre-workout supp that does not include Sucralose, aspartame, processed sugar, or artificial sweeteners/colors?

IMPAC by Anabolic Addiction and X-Factor Advanced by Molecular Nutrition, neither of them have any of the ingredients you mentioned and give good gains.

suzen
01-25-2011, 02:25 AM
My view:- American Bodybuilding Carbo Force- This is a pre-workout energy drink that has virtually no carbs or calories and yet does not use artificial sweetners.

klouud
01-25-2011, 08:12 PM
Has anyone tried Natural Force Pre-Workout Formula? I came across it and was wondering what you guys thought.

samiet23
01-26-2011, 01:43 PM
just tried 1MR... wow, hands down best pre supp.

Xarnage
01-26-2011, 02:59 PM
DI NOX by OZ nutrition.

eericksen
01-26-2011, 09:43 PM
So far Nano Vapor sucked, Jack3d really sucked, superpump 250 sucked. I felt obligated to try NOXpump after meeting Yates. I was very impressed used for awhile. I was out of town on day and forgot my preworkout stuff. So the guy at a local nutrition store gave me the Cellucor No Extreme. I used two packets and was amazed. My veins popped and I was growling at the weights..lol. Then I found out it was $70 for 36 packets. So now I either go back to NOXpump or have been looking at Muscle Warfare Napalm or Nutrex Hemorage...what do you think? I hate wasting money.

BEATR1XK1DDO
01-27-2011, 08:25 AM
Has anybody ever tried M.A.S.S. Project- Blitzz. I'm considering taking it. Any reviews would be appreciated. Thanks all.

tjgilverson
01-27-2011, 10:05 PM
1MR is amazing.

walshhog
01-29-2011, 12:41 PM
I like jacked! By usp labs

jlb619
01-30-2011, 10:09 PM
Torque Extreme is the unrivaled king of pre-workout supplements. It generates an exceptional 8-HOUR SUSTAINED TIME RELEASE of Nitric Oxide, delivers and ATP surge with an advanced Creatine blend, give you laser-guided concentration, prolongs and intensifies your workouts with Carnosine-induced Beta-Alanine, and uses Alpha Lipoic Acid Delivery System to make these potent compounds as bioavailable as possible.

lenny01rh
01-31-2011, 11:10 AM
Im currently stacking CL white flood with purple wraath. So far Im liking the combo. Good focus, energy, and pumps. However, does anyone know if I should be taking the purple wraath everyday or at least more than just on training days for better recovery?
thanks

nervedamage
01-31-2011, 01:55 PM
What is 1MR like in comparison to SuperPump and Jack3d?

xxchumxx
01-31-2011, 02:58 PM
What is 1MR like in comparison to SuperPump and Jack3d?

I tried a sample of 1MR the other day and had good energy but I crashed super hard after the workout. Not good for someone who works out in the morning or early afternoon. Just bought Jack3d yesterday and used it today. Was a little disappointed with the pumps and only minor energy, but then again I used a smaller dose to start with. Will amp up the dosage tomorrow and hopefully see the benefits that everyone is talking about.

Edit: I think Jack3d provides a longer, even feeling energy, not just a short burst of freakish energy like I got from 1MR. I definitely wasn't tired when I left the gym today. Felt like I could have lifted longer but I had already been in there close to an hour and a half and am on a strict routine so I didn't want to add much to it. Even now, going on three hours since I worked out, I still have a good surplus of energy and I'm normally dragging ass by this point. So I give a thumbs up to Jack3d for longer, more natural energy.

nervedamage
01-31-2011, 03:48 PM
1MR is amazing.


I tried a sample of 1MR the other day and had good energy but I crashed super hard after the workout. Not good for someone who works out in the morning or early afternoon. Just bought Jack3d yesterday and used it today. Was a little disappointed with the pumps and only minor energy, but then again I used a smaller dose to start with. Will amp up the dosage tomorrow and hopefully see the benefits that everyone is talking about.

Edit: I think Jack3d provides a longer, even feeling energy, not just a short burst of freakish energy like I got from 1MR. I definitely wasn't tired when I left the gym today. Felt like I could have lifted longer but I had already been in there close to an hour and a half and am on a strict routine so I didn't want to add much to it. Even now, going on three hours since I worked out, I still have a good surplus of energy and I'm normally dragging ass by this point. So I give a thumbs up to Jack3d for longer, more natural energy.

Will definitely stay away, then. Jack3d is one of the only pre-workouts that doesn't make me crash, and my visits to the gym are always early afternoon.

myplanb31
01-31-2011, 04:39 PM
White Flood, really focused when I take this, and gives you great pumps.

MitchtheMonst3r
01-31-2011, 08:32 PM
So far Nano Vapor sucked, Jack3d really sucked, superpump 250 sucked. I felt obligated to try NOXpump after meeting Yates. I was very impressed used for awhile. I was out of town on day and forgot my preworkout stuff. So the guy at a local nutrition store gave me the Cellucor No Extreme. I used two packets and was amazed. My veins popped and I was growling at the weights..lol. Then I found out it was $70 for 36 packets. So now I either go back to NOXpump or have been looking at Muscle Warfare Napalm or Nutrex Hemorage...what do you think? I hate wasting money.

I really liked hemo rage ultra concentrate, look into the new c4 by cellucor if you havent already

stetsonpace
01-31-2011, 08:43 PM
I would have to go with muscle pharm assualt. I have taken 2 tubs now and it gives you a nice substained energy throughout your entire workout not just a huge enrgy rush like all the others. There is no come down with assualt and it gives you amazing pumps with just one full scoop. So far my favorite flavor is raspberry lemonade.

claricd
02-02-2011, 09:22 PM
***Muscle Pharms Assault*** absolutely, on my 3rd tub of using it 3 days a week 1 full scoop with 2 weeks of no use between each tub and the stuff still works amazing energy throught a 1 1/2 hour workout and pumps are insane...no come down and amazing flavors blue artic raspberry and fruit punch are really good

Technic
02-02-2011, 09:59 PM
I've tried nearly every pre-workout supplement and the biggest difference in my strength and endurance has come from changing my pre-workout meal to include Low Glycemic Carbohydrates and slow digesting protein:

1/2 cup Kidney Beans / Brown rice
Pre-workout shake: 1/2 scoop Whey + 1/2 scoop Casein + 1 cup Skim Milk
1/2 cup Pear Halves / Peaches

But I still take supplements about 30 min pre-workout for extra energy:

Ginseng (500-1000mg)
Bee Pollen Granules (3g)
BSN Atro-Phex (1-2 caps)
Caffeine (200 – 400mg)
Green Tea (3 cups)

If I had to pick one I would def go with Caffeine.

Post-workout: Whey (30g) + Dextrose (50g) + Creatine (7g)

OneManArmy1
02-03-2011, 04:34 AM
Double serving of Protein shake with CM mixed in. OFC, I take the best, so my energy level is sky high.

I take my supp pills twice a day, which is ususually before a workout, depends.

NeverBackDown92
02-03-2011, 11:51 PM
Hands down the best pre-workout I have tried so far. energy throughout workout, pumps throughout workout and able to lift more weights. good source of creatine as well. good taste. just amazing. im buying another tub tomorrow. gunna try raspberry lemonade this time

GEEZER24
02-04-2011, 09:39 AM
No-shotgun grape bubblegum...waiting for muscle feast to come out with there version so i can try it...

nevetsforlife
02-06-2011, 10:38 PM
Alright lets just put this simple decision to rest. The top pre-workout supplments that will continue to stay in the top ten are jacked,shotgun,white flood, hemo-rage (con.), no-xplode.

Now there are many other companies customers never get to try or even witness because either they have not taken off yet or do not sell in users daily vitaminshoppe or gnc.

My buddy last week wanted to move away from this caffeine intense normal product that every other company as continued to mimic with this so called " ultra concentrated" He wanted to simply get something all natural that would work. He ran across this company called " Velocity Nutrition" they are just coming out and are giving free samples of their product called FUELD, this is the worlds first all natural concentrated pre-workout supplement.

He told me the pump was insane, and the energy was through the roof and he was able to stay focused the entire workout and never miss a beat. The greatest thing he told me that he experienced, was compared to some of the top ten products I listed above, he never once crashed or felt drained after using FUELD.

idk about you guys but im going to be purchasing my free sample this week at velocitynutrition.net this may be the next big thing what do you guys think?????

nevetsforlife
02-06-2011, 10:46 PM
VELOCITY FUELD

my buddy told me their fruit punch is the first one he has tried that taste like actual fruit punch and I know how important flavor can be

alexpetrou
02-06-2011, 11:46 PM
Muscle pharm assault

flyRy
02-07-2011, 04:32 PM
Jack3d sucks (in my opinion). I've only tried Tropical Punch I think it was?? And it was soooo unbarable that I had to mix it with lemonade, I couldn't just add water. It's not a "ooh this taste like horse ****" kinda taste, it was more of a headache in a glass kinda taste, lol. Anyways, the pumps were not that much improved and kinda lacked energy. I usually get bored at the gym and lose focus since I do have a.d.d. and tend to think about playing PS3 or chillen with some chick, so I need something to keep me focused. When I switched to NO-Xplode I started off with 1 scoop and it made me feel sluggish and weak (weird, I know)..then I went to 2 scoops and it made 10000000% differance. I go to the gym and am figgity and wired..I stay in the gym now for like 2-2 1/2 hours doing workouts that I've never done before just because I have loads and loads for energy and pumps out the ass..but again, some stuff works for other people when they don't work for me, or vise versa..but I reccomend NO-Xplode.

GOLDENi
02-07-2011, 05:11 PM
Muscle Pharm Assault! ****s ridiculous.

gkstyles
02-07-2011, 06:31 PM
He told me the pump was insane, and the energy was through the roof and he was able to stay focused the entire workout and never miss a beat. The greatest thing he told me that he experienced, was compared to some of the top ten products I listed above, he never once crashed or felt drained after using FUELD.

idk about you guys but im going to be purchasing my free sample this week at velocitynutrition.net this may be the next big thing what do you guys think?????

I tried FUELD... worst pre-wo ive ever taken. Little to no pump, it tastes ok but I feel velocity nutrition is really banking on placebo effect to help out...

AztekMarine
02-07-2011, 08:55 PM
I bought White Flood since I saw that it had alot of followers. I tried it for a month. First 3 weeks I saw amazing pumps and it was amazing. Lately its not giving me that. It even has a metallic aftertaste.

WeDontRebuild
02-08-2011, 08:18 PM
MP Assault, hands down

a1strategix
02-08-2011, 10:15 PM
My body is resistant to caffeine, which is why IMO jack3d sucks for me because I dont feel anything, all it does for me is it, kinda "wakes me up", if I am feeling sleepy before a workout.

Can someone recommend a PWO, that might give me good pump and energy. So far I have tried, N.O Xplode and Jack3d and I have been unimpressed by both.

mwingo1135
02-09-2011, 06:51 AM
Its all been said before but vapor and No Shotgun gets the job done very well!

wyche128
02-09-2011, 07:40 AM
My body is resistant to caffeine, which is why IMO jack3d sucks for me because I dont feel anything, all it does for me is it, kinda "wakes me up", if I am feeling sleepy before a workout.

Can someone recommend a PWO, that might give me good pump and energy. So far I have tried, N.O Xplode and Jack3d and I have been unimpressed by both.


You should try Muscle Velocity..

nevetsforlife
02-09-2011, 10:50 AM
I use to be a fan of shotgun and jacked, it just stopped doing it for me after awhile of use. I just got my sample of fueld from velocity nutrition and thought it was great. My reason is because in the past I use to crash and have terrible headaches and this never gave them to me . The energy I got was not that "jittery feeling" but kept me going throughout my entire workout, not sarcarficing forum etc....and just felt extremely focused and alert my entire workout. When I took jacked the energy was there but I never got a pump, fueld i guess they have something called "beet root" and my arms just felt huge. And the biggest thing for me is flavor, I use to take white flood and had to mix it with 1 or 2 flavor packets just to down it, and fueld taste like its advertised.

mmafighter1294
02-09-2011, 11:00 AM
SO epic.

I've tried Jack3d and NO explode. Stopped using NO because it gave me stomach aches during my workout. Been using Jack3d for a couple months and i'm really liking it. Great pumps and energy.

ive never tried NO explode but i heard it wasnt that good. i used to love jack3d but the crash afterwards was awful. now i swear by 3 scoops of pre surge unleashed

RJL85
02-09-2011, 03:40 PM
okay im 3 months into training and looking to add in a preworkout .

im already taking 5g creatine monohydrate with my postworkout shake .

i am trying to decide between the following

gaspari SP 250 online price is $24.99 or $52.99
BSN NOXpl im pretty sure i saw it in my local store for either 49.99 or 59.99 CAD.
Muscletech Nano Vapor online price $54.99
Jacked $49.99

all sizes vary however jacked is the most expensive at only 250g size, also BSN NOXpl is $60 for 1025g . the nano vapor is 2 lb jar which i dont know how that works out to in grams ..

my question is after looking at all the specs on all products the best bang for buck would be the smaller gaspari sp 250, any of the others offer superior benefits than sp 250 in short timeframes ?

nevetsforlife
02-09-2011, 04:16 PM
Nanovapor- smells great, taste nasty just like many of cell-techs products great marketing and label design terrible product.

No-xplode- great taste, works well but once your body gains a tolerance to the stimulants you will be going through the bottle faster then you know it and will be out of money.

Gaspari- similiar to noxplode with taste, but for me it had no effect and not worth the money and it left me on the toilet.

jacked- for the price you pay you get what you pay for, pretty good taste, and it deff works in the energy and focus categories .

My favorite ive taken is fueld by velocity nutrition , hemo-rage by nutrex, shotgun by vpx

but just best bang for your buck is either buying Fueld,Jacked, or hemo rage

I know you where talking about gaspari,bsn, cell-tech but the other ones ive listed really cut out the bs and fillers and give you the biggest bang for your buck in my opinion

rfriedrich9
02-10-2011, 11:32 AM
just tried 1MR... wow, hands down best pre supp.

second that haved tried it yet but keep hearing its the best one on the market now.

JMO42
02-10-2011, 12:22 PM
im currently taking jacked and feel nothing...the first day i took it i was hercules but since then nothing and im up to 3 scoops. Any other suggestions? im looking at superpump is there a difference between the 250 and the max? and would you say that its better than jacked?