Official 2008 NPC Lehigh Valley Results Thread

[mxsprocket1]

I might be jumping the gun, but I figured I'd start the results thread a week early. Besides Brian (Fjock) and myself, anyone else competing?

Results and pictures will be posted will available.

[Fjock]

I might be jumping the gun, but I figured I'd start the results thread a week early. Besides Brian (Fjock) and myself, anyone else competing?

Results and pictures will be posted will available.

I was gonna ask you to start it this time anyway when I saw you at the Lehigh =). I might be too busy losing my mind at the buffet for a few days afterward hahaha

[fltallpaul]

Don't forget Outback...I want a full report!

[njmuscle66]

Good Luck guys!

[totalrookie]

word - born and raised in easton, pa - good luck to those who compete.

[Fjock]

Don't forget Outback...I want a full report!

lol paul i will have a full report along with pictures from the table to confirm that this outback massacre did indeed take place. Im aiming for that following sunday or monday to hit outback.

[Fjock]

Good Luck guys!
I refuse to disappoint you bro

word - born and raised in easton, pa - good luck to those who compete.

funny, i was born and raised in PA and now also live in jersey... my pop lives not far from hoboken. Mahwah

[mxsprocket1]

I can not even IMAGINE how much food you are gonna throw down @ Outback. Don't be scared to treat yourself to a big 'ol pitcher of draft either.

[fitfranco]

When and where is this show again?

Thanks.

[mxsprocket1]

Dufford High School?, Lehigh Valley on May 17th.

Doors open for prejudging @ 10

Doors open for finals @ 5

[Fjock]

good luck with peak week mike...

[mxsprocket1]

You too man. Looking forward to seeing our progression.

[njmuscle66]

bump for results

[mxsprocket1]

bump for results

Next Saturday : )

[njmuscle66]

Next Saturday : )

oh boy sorry about that-just assumed it was yesterday LOL

[reddevl44]

What's up fellas...I know I had doubts at Pitt, but I am all in for Lehigh's!!! Gatta redeem myself after that showing in Pittsburgh. See you boys there!

[Fjock]

What's up fellas...I know I had doubts at Pitt, but I am all in for Lehigh's!!! Gatta redeem myself after that showing in Pittsburgh. See you boys there!

lookin forward to seein you there agian bud. Maybe this time we can catch get a couple of beers afterward... that girl I was with last time was as starving as I was after the show so we found somethin quick. (well... No way she was quite as hungry as I was lol)

[fitfranco]

Anyone guest posing at this show?

[Fjock]

dennis wolfe

[Fjock]

damn yall... I cant sleep for **** this last week. I think ima take the Cutler approach and just eat every 3 hours throughout the night and see if it keeps my fuller while depleting.

[reddevl44]

Grabbing a drink afterwards sounds like a great idea...would you be down for that too Mike??? You did miss out on your 21st afterall! And I know what ya mean Bri...sleep is rough nowaday's. I am stressing on how to do my carb up...again... I think I just have to stick to oatmeal and a few sweet potatoes and see where that leads me...any advise guys?

[fitfranco]

dennis wolfe

Thanks!!
I will be watching the show.

[mxsprocket1]

Yes, it is getting so hard to sleep lately. It doesn't help that I try to go to bed even earlier the last week to take my mind off of food.

Days go by so slowww.....

[Fjock]

lol ive just basically given up on sleep. the end is very near and im just gonna stick it out this last 4 days and try to enjoy being the leanest ive ever been.

[reddevl44]

All I know is that I am going to sleep like a baby once I get my Papa Johns fix!!! Can not wait till Saturday boys!

[fltallpaul]

lol ive just basically given up on sleep. the end is very near and im just gonna stick it out this last 4 days and try to enjoy being the leanest ive ever been.


How much leaner are you than you were a few weeks ago? any new pics you can share?

[Fjock]

How much leaner are you than you were a few weeks ago? any new pics you can share?

I will try and get a few up soon. I am completely depleted but look much fuller than I did at this point during my last depletion. Was actually looking pretty damn vascular after the gym this morning.

[Fjock]

Youll have the excuse the poor lighting in my apt... especially on the front double. This is on the 4th day of depletion, no pump, no color... The changes that should take place in the next 72 hours will look like night and day lol.
http://i29.tinypic.com/dpbyic.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/f2sq4o.jpg

[fltallpaul]

Mid section looks tighter...to be sure you should take some of that pam on the counter...spray yourself down and reshoot the pics. lol. Looking good Brian....looking forward to seeing the end results!

[Fjock]

Mid section looks tighter...to be sure you should take some of that pam on the counter...spray yourself down and reshoot the pics. lol. Looking good Brian....looking forward to seeing the end results!

haha thanks bro, all about that jan tana posing oil for me though!

[massbuild]

You are coming in pretty good man...Keep up the good work..

[Fjock]

2 days out...
http://i29.tinypic.com/11uhrew.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/6ir6ux.jpg

[MattyH7688]

2 days out...
http://i29.tinypic.com/11uhrew.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/6ir6ux.jpg

damn pretty small...... :D :p jk bro


I feel really good about you qualifying for nationals this weekend.

[Fjock]

damn pretty small...... :D :p jk bro


I feel really good about you qualifying for nationals this weekend.
i surely hope so bro, thanks for all your mental support throughout this prep Matty... shame we cant do this show together

[MattyH7688]

i surely hope so bro, thanks for all your mental support throughout this prep Matty... shame we cant do this show togetheri regret not doing it now and to bad it was a little closer than like 7 hours away

im considering doing the pitt again next year or just taking all next year off.. i will see how the winter bulk goes

[Billyspt4]

i regret not doing it now and to bad it was a little closer than like 7 hours away

im considering doing the pitt again next year or just taking all next year off.. i will see how the winter bulk goes

That's what I said last year after my show, then I started to get the itch and now I'm about ready to start dieting for my 3rd show of the year!!!! We are definitely not right in the head to WANT to go through all this ****, but damn it's fun

[fltallpaul]

Do work buddy....I wish I lived closer I would be there...Looking forward to the report and I may ask your advice about doing shows back to back...I may to one 5 weeks after my first...

You look freaking sick....with a pump you will scare small children! hell even without one.

[Fjock]

Do work buddy....I wish I lived closer I would be there...Looking forward to the report and I may ask your advice about doing shows back to back...I may to one 5 weeks after my first...

You look freaking sick....with a pump you will scare small children! hell even without one.

back to back shows definitely suck... You will be getting a report on this thread for sure from a number of people. Ill offer you any advice i can on handling back to back shows bro. Theres no doubt that it will be a tough task for you during your first year of comp.

[fltallpaul]

Why not come down and go for the over all at the Mid Florida Classic? I have an extra room and a George Foreman grill...lol.

[Fjock]

Why not come down and go for the over all at the Mid Florida Classic? I have an extra room and a George Foreman grill...lol.

man if i would have budgeted myself better through this prep that may have been possible but this coming summer is full on uncertainties for sure lol. and thats funny because I ended up bringing my foreman to the midflorida

[Fjock]

just arrived at my hotel in the lehigh valley, time to get down to work. 13.5 week of straight busting my ass is about to come to a conclusion. Lets bring home some hardware :)

[fltallpaul]

just arrived at my hotel in the lehigh valley, time to get down to work. 13.5 week of straight busting my ass is about to come to a conclusion. Lets bring home some hardware :)

Congrats man...all the work is done. Enjoy the next few hours, kick some ass tomorrow and enjoy dinner tomorrow night....

Thanks for keeping us posted....pics are enjoyed by all...especially by those of use who have never been where you are right now...hours away from comp....

[Billyspt4]

just arrived at my hotel in the lehigh valley, time to get down to work. 13.5 week of straight busting my ass is about to come to a conclusion. Lets bring home some hardware :)


Not sure how this compares to the Pittsburgh, bu I have an idea that it's not nearly as big so I think you should be in the running for the Heavyweight and overall titles.

Good luck to you all, wish I could make it up there to watch, but that's too far of a drive

[mikez]

FJock you look insane bro. Best of luck tomorrow. I dont know if this has been stated before but what are your future plans in bodybuilding? You're potential is through the roof.

[Fjock]

Congrats man...all the work is done. Enjoy the next few hours, kick some ass tomorrow and enjoy dinner tomorrow night....

Thanks for keeping us posted....pics are enjoyed by all...especially by those of use who have never been where you are right now...hours away from comp....
Paul, I dont know how to thank you for all the mental support throughout these 13.5 weeks. I know you still got a ways to go bro... but you can still rest assured that you have helped me get through three of the most difficult months of my life. You are truly a great guy, and although itll be a hard task, ill be showing the same level of support leading up to your shows.

...and dont forget, I crap load the morning of the show, so ill be enjoying some meals much sooner than you think lol

Not sure how this compares to the Pittsburgh, bu I have an idea that it's not nearly as big so I think you should be in the running for the Heavyweight and overall titles.
drive
I cant tell you how much I hope you are right bro... Im going to go 110% tomorrow to represent for all my fellow bodybuilding.com members. I know that there are many "teams" on these boards. But I consider all of you bros my teammates and whether I win or not tomorrow... you can all once again rest assured that I did my absolute best to get it done. In the end... thats all we can ask of ourselves



FJock you look insane bro. Best of luck tomorrow. I dont know if this has been stated before but what are your future plans in bodybuilding? You're potential is through the roof.
Thanks a ton bro. My future plans are looking like Collegiate Nationals either in 09 or 2010. Depends on how long I can hold out really lol. Im so addicted to this ****, its very difficult for me to pass over a competition season. So I might be seein you at teen nationals next year bro :)


P.S. all stay tuned for pics at some point tonight when hopefully I have begun to noticeably start to dry out.

[Fjock]

Still relatively early into the water cut. Lol sorry about the stupid face
http://i25.tinypic.com/whlj01.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/21alco6.jpg

[Sporto1633]

Still relatively early into the water cut. Lol sorry about the stupid face
http://i25.tinypic.com/whlj01.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/21alco6.jpg

They're very dark...it will be hard to make a comparison on how your water cut goes with these pictures. Can you manipulate the lighting or take the pics with a flash?

Sporto

[Fjock]

They're very dark...it will be hard to make a comparison on how your water cut goes with these pictures. Can you manipulate the lighting or take the pics with a flash?

Sporto

I was thinking the same thing, the lighting in front of the mirror is much better but my bro didnt wanna be seen in the picture LOL. Let me see if you I rough him up a little bit and convince him to do it.

[Sporto1633]

I was thinking the same thing, the lighting in front of the mirror is much better but my bro didnt wanna be seen in the picture LOL. Let me see if you I rough him up a little bit and convince him to do it.

LOL, he can hide directly in front of you so his reflection isn't caught...

Sporto

[Fjock]

ahh here we go. a tad better
http://i26.tinypic.com/t89n5k.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/2mn0g5.jpg

[Sporto1633]

ahh here we go. a tad better
http://i26.tinypic.com/t89n5k.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/2mn0g5.jpg

That's better...the main thing is I want to see noticeable difference in your vascularity with you cutting water. So for instance, have you tapered down up to tonight?

Sporto

[Fjock]

That's better...the main thing is I want to see noticeable difference in your vascularity with you cutting water. So for instance, have you tapered down up to tonight?

Sporto

as for water I drank a half gal by 5pm. I mainly rely on getting my vascularity from my crap load meal at 5am and then another after pre judging.

So yes I have tapered down the carbs a bit for the day so I can hit it hard tomorrow with hopefully less chance of spilling over.

I depleted saturday-tuesday and began my carb up wed

[Sporto1633]

as for water I drank a half gal by 5pm. I mainly rely on getting my vascularity from my crap load meal at 5am and then another after pre judging.

So yes I have tapered down the carbs a bit for the day so I can hit it hard tomorrow with hopefully less chance of spilling over.

I depleted saturday-tuesday and began my carb up wed

Gotcha...

Sporto

[buffdaddy91369]

Wishing all the bodybuilding.com members competing this weekend the best!

I know you all did your homework... so as they always say... "it's up to the judges".

Post some comp pics on this thread ASAP!

Midwest love! (no gayness)

[Fjock]

Wishing all the bodybuilding.com members competing this weekend the best!

I know you all did your homework... so as they always say... "it's up to the judges".

Post some comp pics on this thread ASAP!

Midwest love! (no gayness)

I actually brought the cord for my laptop from my camera this time so I should be able to get pics up asap. Sorry to say that Nevrilk will not be around this time nor will MD's photographers (might be mistaken).
Hopefully the pictures that my fam and friends will take will be good enough quality.

And the midwest love is much appreciated lol

[Fjock]

ahhh yes, good food is rapidly approaching!

[Fjock]

as a good man named vance once said,
"Guys I Woke Up Dry As Hell Wtf?
Lol
Let's Do This"

haha this gets my vote for pre contest quote of the year

[semper27]

as a good man named vance once said,
"Guys I Woke Up Dry As Hell Wtf?
Lol
Let's Do This"

haha this gets my vote for pre contest quote of the yearDo your thang today bro and tear it up! You look phenomenal and much different than your previous show! Completely on spot! Enjoy your feast afterwards!

[Fjock]

Do your thang today bro and tear it up! You look phenomenal and much different than your previous show! Completely on spot! Enjoy your feast afterwards!

Thanks semper! means a ton coming from you dude, now I def cant disappoint lol

[Fjock]

off to the show bros, wish me luck

[maxresults]

I'll be there checking it out. Best of luck to all the competitors!!

[fltallpaul]

anticipation is killing me....its almost like its my show....

[maxresults]

I just got back from catching a bit of prejudging on my lunch...guys look great.

[Sean15782]

Im dying to know what happened!

[MattyH7688]

need updates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fjock]

What a wild night fellas.. I gotta make this kind of brief because I need to get some stuff done.

Fjock in the Junior Class - LOL PURE ROBBERY. this is the worst show of judging since what happened to Vance. Wait till you guys see pictures. I got 2nd out of I forget how many but man this was pure wrong. Every single person I came into contact to in the audience or back stage, pros... EVERYBODY was telling me I was robbed. Politics were heavily involved here because the kid was being trained by a pro who had tight connections apparently with a good deal of the judges. Thankfully, an IFBB pro that saw what happened came back stage and comforted me and let me know that "its just something that happens. You won hands down but thats just the sport sometimes.... wait till you see how bad the IFBB is with it because you definitely have the genetics to make it man. So dont worry about it"

So enough of that rant.. ill leave that alone until we have some decent pics available to show you guys.

Fjock Heavy Open- 2nd place out of 7 or 8 I believe and guess what guys... I AM NATIONALLY QUALIFIED at 21 years old!!!! w00t! w00t! My goal for the year has been reached! dream come true. These guys were monsters but the judges didnt let me down this time because my conditioning beat all of them. The guy that beat me went on to win the Overall. I didnt realize that the top 2 in each open class got qualified until they told us at the competitors meeting. I guess thats just direct proof of how tough the competition at that show is getting. I was told that the guy who won does that show every year lol so congrats to him for finally getting it done.

Mike(mxs) and Tim - ended up being the only two in their open class... but what the hell, MIKE IS ALSO NATIONALLY QUALIFIED. These guys worked so hard all year so absolutely nothing deserves to be taken away from them. Congrats Mike, Im extremely proud of the work you put it in this year. I dont recall how things went with his crossovers so ill let him elaborate with that.

So.... overall I had a great time as usual. So good to be done. I got a little taste of that bad side of the sport last night but Its something thats just going to have to be dealt with if you are going to make it anywhere. I just kept telling myself to think about what happened to Vic Martinez at the Mr O last year. But then doing so well in the Open made my night 10x better capping the night off with a national qualification. Just knowing that you are allowed to compete in any one of the biggest NPC shows this country offers is a great feeling(Nationals, Jr. Nats, Usa's etc...) Now all i gotta do is find me the right sponsor who will pay for me to get to Vegas for the USA's HAHA

[Fjock]

Oh ya.... finished up at Applebees last night with a couple of my boys that made it out to the show and boy did I forget what it feels like to be hungover... now I remember why I barely drank in the first place haha. But god damn we ate a ton. Only thing that stopped us from ordering more half priced appetizers is the fact that they were about to close.

[Fjock]

I had a HUGE! problem with the head judge not calling out a most muscular as a mandatory while they still ended up having the junior class out there FOREVER. Mike can def vouch for this and just how pissed I was about it. Its not fun when the head judge doesnt allow you to hit your best pose. Ive done a decent number of NPC shows in different parts of the country and have never heard them miss that mandatory. All bbers backstage were in agreement. I easily believe that alone would have but me far enough ahead of the winner but that whole situation was so foul and dirty...errrr Im gonna try my hardest not to go over board with that whole situation so im gonna end this post right now LOL. The pics will speak for themselves. Im not a sore loser yall.. I can take defeat as people that know me on here know... but the way this happened just disgusted me last night temporarily.

[Fjock]

The coverage of this show simply didnt match the Pitt so I apologize for the amount of time it will take to get quality, on stage pictures up.

[semper27]

Hey man! HYOOOGE Congrats on the qualifier!!! That's excellent bro! I hate to hear that politics more than likely played a role in your placing but you definately have the right attitude. This will only make you push harder in the off-season! Looking forward to seeing the pics. Again, congratulations! NOW GET YO EATS ON!!! :D

[mxsprocket1]

Yo Brian and Tim, congrats to everyone!

I'll throw up a summary and pictures later today.

[fltallpaul]

The coverage of this show simply didnt match the Pitt so I apologize for the amount of time it will take to get quality, on stage pictures up.

Congrats on qualifying for Nationals big guy....I think having a pro tell you that you have what it takes to be an pro is a victory in itself.

Looking forward too seeing how good you looked. You have a trophy room now or what? Get em all together and snap a pic...must look nice!

[MattyH7688]

great job bro!!!! nationally qualified!!!!!!!!

[Transformer08]

YOU DA MAN FJOCK! AMAZING JOB, awsome result, awsome potential...GO EASSSy ON THE CHEAT MEALS LOL I STILL GOT 10 WKS TO GO!....
Man u did great!

[Fjock]

Hey man! HYOOOGE Congrats on the qualifier!!! That's excellent bro! I hate to hear that politics more than likely played a role in your placing but you definately have the right attitude. This will only make you push harder in the off-season! Looking forward to seeing the pics. Again, congratulations! NOW GET YO EATS ON!!! :D
Absolutely bro, the more time passes, the less im going to let it bother me and just concentrate on all the positive things that happened yesterday. thanks for the words bro! And the eats are on 110% my brotha haha.

Congrats on qualifying for Nationals big guy....I think having a pro tell you that you have what it takes to be an pro is a victory in itself.

Looking forward too seeing how good you looked. You have a trophy room now or what? Get em all together and snap a pic...must look nice!
you're dead on about the pro part man, it was great to be able to have a short conversation with him. Lol ill def try and get a pic of all my trophies together soon. Thanks again for all your support paul. Its your time to take care of business now. DO IT MAN

great job bro!!!! nationally qualified!!!!!!!!
haha thanks matty. Its a shame you couldnt be there last night man. It was a long one, but it was fun. And Dennis Wolfe was just plain monsterish. I didnt bother watching him guest pose because I was busy pumping up for the Heavys, but I got to pump up near him back stage. God damn I wanna be a pro....


YOU DA MAN FJOCK! AMAZING JOB, awsome result, awsome potential...GO EASSSy ON THE CHEAT MEALS LOL I STILL GOT 10 WKS TO GO!....
Man u did great!
Thanks a ton dude. I cant promise you about the going easy of the cheat meals part haha. As a member of the mass game, they will soon know my name at the local buffets :)

[supermannpc]

Hey bro that judging was def scored correctly. And no one knew any judges for your information. I said if its judged right Aaron would win. If you want to argue the fact and say that you were bigger, thats fine. But thats not what they look for in an open Junior weight class. He was harder and drier. Take into consideration that you have about 20-25 lbs on that kid. Nobody wants to hear excuses. Just be proud of what you accomplished and call it a day.

[AaronSchultz]

Brian what's up bro? This is Aaron Schultz. Let me first say to you that I busted my asss for 12 weeks for the Lehigh's. I wouldn't think you would come off as the type to get on here and make the claims that you had made about another competitor. So let me clear a few things up for you and the other guys who couldn't make it out to see. My trainer is not a pro, he is a top national level competitor. So he def. had no say with how the judging went down. I know you remember the top judge say in the meeting he's been doing this for 18 years. Do you really think he would fix a Jr. Class and risk it all??
Honestly think about it.. It's not like I get anything for winning the Jrs. I don't qualify for nationals. My focus was on the light heavies where I placed 3rd out of 15. But I guess that was because my "pro" trainer told the judges that have been doing this for 18 years to put me there. Sorry bro I just took your comments as a low blow. To be honest if you are really that upset about your placing I'll mail my Jr. trophy up too you.... Good luck in the future.

[MattyH7688]

Hey bro that judging was def scored correctly. And no one knew any judges for your information. I said if its judged right Aaron would win. If you want to argue the fact and say that you were bigger, thats fine. But thats not what they look for in an open Junior weight class. He was harder and drier. Take into consideration that you have about 20-25 lbs on that kid. Nobody wants to hear excuses. Just be proud of what you accomplished and call it a day.

are you his coach?

[mikepa1945]

Masters over 35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA2uDDMJHVk

Juniors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdu5tNC2r7o

[supermannpc]

are you his coach?

Yes I am. I am the owner of Next Nevel Nutrition

[mxsprocket1]

Mike, Aaron, Brian;

please, lets keep this thread battle free.

Both Aaron and Brian did badass. Aaron, you did an awesome job with prepping and Mike, you know your stuff and it showed.

Brian, you qualified big dogg. Start grubbing

[njmuscle66]

Brian Congrats on the placing and being Nationally Qualified. You can never tell what the judges are looking for. Sometimes it is a case of comparing apples and oranges. Knowing the other competitor was trained by Mike Knowles I am pretty confident Adam was ready for battle and knowing how you prepared, the judges had a difficult decision. Maybe it was even a split decision you never know regardless you should be very proud of your accomplishments this year and great things are in store for you.

[user8905438904904]

He was harder and drier. .

I disagree, but I am no judge.

[njmuscle66]

Yes I am. I am the owner of Next Nevel Nutrition

I had the "pleasure"of standing on stage with Dave last year at the PA :) Certainly was a humbling experience but was good since it made me recognize how much I would have to improve if I wanted to reach a National level

[Fjock]

Hey bro that judging was def scored correctly. And no one knew any judges for your information. I said if its judged right Aaron would win. If you want to argue the fact and say that you were bigger, thats fine. But thats not what they look for in an open Junior weight class. He was harder and drier. Take into consideration that you have about 20-25 lbs on that kid. Nobody wants to hear excuses. Just be proud of what you accomplished and call it a day.

Ive already accepted and moved on from it bro... I was mainly just goin by what literally almost every single person that came up to me and said from the audience. Vast majority of them being strangers. 2 Actual pros told me that had me winning basically in a land slide. its a done deal though. I apologize for claiming that you knew at least some of the judges if that wasn't the case.

BTW, someone had mentioned to me that they thought you were a pro so thats where that came from. So along with you being a monster I easily believed it. And if he was my trainee id be saying he won flat out as well. Sorry to say bro but a trainer coming out and saying that his trainee won fair in square doesn't exactly mean a whole lot...

[Fjock]

Brian what's up bro? This is Aaron Schultz. Let me first say to you that I busted my asss for 12 weeks for the Lehigh's. I wouldn't think you would come off as the type to get on here and make the claims that you had made about another competitor. So let me clear a few things up for you and the other guys who couldn't make it out to see. My trainer is not a pro, he is a top national level competitor. So he def. had no say with how the judging went down. I know you remember the top judge say in the meeting he's been doing this for 18 years. Do you really think he would fix a Jr. Class and risk it all??
Honestly think about it.. It's not like I get anything for winning the Jrs. I don't qualify for nationals. My focus was on the light heavies where I placed 3rd out of 15. But I guess that was because my "pro" trainer told the judges that have been doing this for 18 years to put me there. Sorry bro I just took your comments as a low blow. To be honest if you are really that upset about your placing I'll mail my Jr. trophy up too you.... Good luck in the future.
Your trainer is a monster so i was assuming his pro status, my mistake. Im much more worried about moving on in the open arena. Normally I wouldnt have a problem but after so many different people come up to you and tell me the same thing over and over about how they didnt understand the placing.... it starts to get you thinking. Good luck to you as well.. like mxs, lets not turn this thread into this, its a done deal. Since both of you guys seem to be posting on here for the 1st time, its probably smartest to be 1 and done here in this particular thread so no further controversy happens. The rest of my focus is on open competition from here on out except for maybe collegiate nationals. So discussing the junior is now pointless. Im now officially working toward using my qualification status.

And I definitely didnt say anything about the results being fixed bro. If anything I was referring to favoritism through trainer, which happens all the time in the NPC... we've all heard stories. Claiming that something was fixed is a much bigger accusation IMO

[Fjock]

Masters over 35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA2uDDMJHVk

Juniors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdu5tNC2r7o
Thanks a ton for posting these videos bro

Brian Congrats on the placing and being Nationally Qualified. You can never tell what the judges are looking for. Sometimes it is a case of comparing apples and oranges. Knowing the other competitor was trained by Mike Knowles I am pretty confident Adam was ready for battle and knowing how you prepared, the judges had a difficult decision. Maybe it was even a split decision you never know regardless you should be very proud of your accomplishments this year and great things are in store for you.
Thanks once again bro. Sorry to say that I will mostly be continuing my career down south where I started because I can already see where this is headed. This started as a chance to fill in my fellow forum members on my experience at this show and has quickly turned into something much deeper that will almost surely reach beyond this forum as you can already tell. Before you know it ill be known as a Northeastern judge basher lol, which were not my intentions by any means but oh well... Ive never had too much trouble dealing with having to play "the bad guy" role. So the last chance you will have to see me compete up here will most likely be at Collegiate Nationals bro. I will still be attending your shows to watch you compete with my remaining time in the Northeast.

I disagree, but I am no judge.
:)

[Fjock]

Mike, Aaron, Brian;

please, lets keep this thread battle free.

Both Aaron and Brian did badass. Aaron, you did an awesome job with prepping and Mike, you know your stuff and it showed.

Brian, you qualified big dogg. Start grubbing

Very sorry that this ended up in this thread Mike... you know I got a ton of respect for you bro and would never hope to do that.

[MattyH7688]

Thanks a ton for posting these videos bro

Thanks once again bro. Sorry to say that I will mostly be continuing my career down south where I started because I can already see where this is headed. This started as a chance to fill in my fellow forum members on my experience at this show and has quickly turned into something much deeper that will almost surely reach beyond this forum as you can already tell. Before you know it ill be known as a Northeastern judge basher lol, which were not my intentions by any means but oh well... Ive never had too much trouble playing "the bad guy" role. So the last chance you will have to see me compete up here will most likely be at Collegiate Nationals bro. I will still be attending your shows to watch you compete with my remaining time in the Northeast.

:)

damn im jealous you are going back down south.. I need to get of the northeast and the crap weather lol..

you doing collegiate nationals next year?

[Fjock]

damn im jealous you are going back down south.. I need to get of the northeast and the crap weather lol..

you doing collegiate nationals next year?

I cant make up my mind for **** right now on that one bro lol. Just too many unknowns in my future with school and money to know if I will be able to make that happen. Plus id like to bulk over a year this time

[mxsprocket1]

I too qualified for nationals at this show. I weighed in @ 152.5 lbs; down about 1.5 from two weeks prior.
I Did not place where I wanted to in the Juniors, but when you have guys like Aaron and Brian competing, it makes placing for a little guy a whole lot harder.

Atleast I got my color right unlike in the Pittsburgh show

http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0015s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0016s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0034s.JPG

Anyone any good at unblurring digitals? I have more but they did not turn out so hot

[Fjock]

I too qualified for nationals at this show. I weighed in @ 152.5 lbs; down about 1.5 from two weeks prior.
I Did not place where I wanted to in the Juniors, but when you have guys like Aaron and Brian competing, it makes placing for a little guy a whole lot harder.

Atleast I got my color right unlike in the Pittsburgh show

http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0015s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0016s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0034s.JPG

Anyone any good at unblurring digitals? I have more but they did not turn out so hot

are those pics that your fam took bro? Almost everything I have on my digi cameras look like crap so im waiting to finally see some decent photos of my classes.

[njmuscle66]

I too qualified for nationals at this show. I weighed in @ 152.5 lbs; down about 1.5 from two weeks prior.
I Did not place where I wanted to in the Juniors, but when you have guys like Aaron and Brian competing, it makes placing for a little guy a whole lot harder.

Atleast I got my color right unlike in the Pittsburgh show



You look really good IMO..........Just need to slowly add some mass but you have good symetry and certainly know how to come into shows conditioned. A few more lbs of muscle and you will do well.

Quads seem to be a little ahead of the upper body.

[nevrilkphoto]

GOOD JOB MIKE... NOW THATS A TAN!!!

I too qualified for nationals at this show. I weighed in @ 152.5 lbs; down about 1.5 from two weeks prior.
I Did not place where I wanted to in the Juniors, but when you have guys like Aaron and Brian competing, it makes placing for a little guy a whole lot harder.

Atleast I got my color right unlike in the Pittsburgh show

http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0015s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0016s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0034s.JPG

Anyone any good at unblurring digitals? I have more but they did not turn out so hot

[Fjock]

Mike you gotta let us know the deal with you always turning into a pimp backstage at these shows. Do you really know that many figure girls that compete in the area or do you just end up meeting them there? Matty and i were hatin on you hard at the Pitt and it seems you had your game on point at the Lehigh haha. Both on the stage and the lady game.

I cant lie when im jealous lol

[Fjock]

GOOD JOB MIKE... NOW THATS A TAN!!!

Yes, his tan came in 10x better this weekend. I know from earlier in the week that he was determined to get it dead on. We had to watch a friend of ours struggle greatly with his tan. Another victim of jan tana. I say just use their posing oil because way too many people screw up using their tanner. Im in love with their posing oil though. Jan Tana/Hot Stuff Combo ftw!

[jtc0822]

Brian,

I was at the show on Saturday... I would like to offer you some friendly unbiased criticism and advice.

You need to keep things in perspective....you are only 21 years old... that is still a baby in the bodybuilding world. You did look great, but there are several things that you can improve on. The guy that beat you out in the Junior class won because he was harder top to bottom. Your legs were big... but were a little on the soft side. If you get your legs to match your upper body you will be hard to beat. You can definately improve on your posing as well. Posing can make the biggest difference in a bodybuilders physique. Learn how to show off all of that hard earned muscle.

FYI... Every one else may be telling you that you looked great and that you got robbed, but they don't sit on the judging panel. I hope this advice helps... use it as to help motivate you to victory at your next show.

[Fjock]

Brian,

I was at the show on Saturday... I would like to offer you some friendly unbiased criticism and advice.

You need to keep things in perspective....you are only 21 years old... that is still a baby in the bodybuilding world. You did look great, but there are several things that you can improve on. The guy that beat you out in the Junior class won because he was harder top to bottom. Your legs were big... but were a little on the soft side. If you get your legs to match your upper body you will be hard to beat. You can definately improve on your posing as well. Posing can make the biggest difference in a bodybuilders physique. Learn how to show off all of that hard earned muscle.

FYI... Every one else may be telling you that you looked great and that you got robbed, but they don't sit on the judging panel. I hope this advice helps... use it as to help motivate you to victory at your next show.
Thanks for your input... but I still find it interesting that each person that feels i lost is a 1st time poster.

But if you were indeed an unbiased spectator at this show who just happened to stumble upon this thread with never posting on this forum before...... I respect your opinion and advice, thank you.

When it comes down to it we are gonna have to wait for decent quality pre judging comparison pics to be put up to get critique from the majority of the members here. You have to remember here, I dont even know what we looked like side by side except for what I saw in the pump up room mirrors. My reaction is almost purely feeding off of what I heard from mass amounts of complete strangers both back stage and in the crowd. If it was just family and friends telling me that I should have won, I wouldnt have much to say...

And have no worries, every loss I experience motivates me plenty to do better next time.. but thanks again anyway

[Blahzay128]

Fjock - Congrats on qualifying. I'm sure you mean no disrespect to any of the other competitors. This is a forum where you have tracked/commented on your progress and results...so why not be able to speak your opinion on how you feel the show went. I think people are being a little too defensive. I do want to see some pics.....I'm sure many of us want to mention our opinion. So I look fwd. to that.

With that said.....Much props and respect to everyone who competes....whether you are 1st or last. In the end this is a sport where in my opinion, the competitors have an extreme amount of respect for their opponents.

G

[Fjock]

Fjock - Congrats on qualifying. I'm sure you mean no disrespect to any of the other competitors. This is a forum where you have tracked/commented on your progress and results...so why not be able to speak your opinion on how you feel the show went. I think people are being a little too defensive. I do want to see some pics.....I'm sure many of us want to mention our opinion. So I look fwd. to that.

With that said.....Much props and respect to everyone who competes....whether you are 1st or last. In the end this is a sport where in my opinion, the competitors have an extreme amount of respect for their opponents.

G

Couldnt have said it any better bro. Thanks for your input and as soon as we have some pics available I'm sure we'll get them up. You are dead on here though. All I hoped to do here was share my experience at the contest. We have seen many examples in this section of threads that have started out much like this one and members share their feelings at times when they felt the judging could have been better. I wont mention his name but most of us here know who im referring to when I talk about a young competitor that got robbed in a natty comp not long ago. Thats the type of things these forums are for. But this is surely the first time Ive seen the other competitor or competitors create an account specifically to comment on a members opinion of how the show went down.

[MattyH7688]

Mike you gotta let us know the deal with you always turning into a pimp backstage at these shows. Do you really know that many figure girls that compete in the area or do you just end up meeting them there? Matty and i were hatin on you hard at the Pitt and it seems you had your game on point at the Lehigh haha. Both on the stage and the lady game.

I cant lie when im jealous lol

LMAO.. mike kept hittin on those figure pros.. I was very jealous

[mxsprocket1]

Mike you gotta let us know the deal with you always turning into a pimp backstage at these shows. Do you really know that many figure girls that compete in the area or do you just end up meeting them there? Matty and i were hatin on you hard at the Pitt and it seems you had your game on point at the Lehigh haha. Both on the stage and the lady game.

I cant lie when im jealous lol

LoL. I wish it was like that, but it was mostly chicks I knew. : )



GOOD JOB MIKE... NOW THATS A TAN!!!

Thank you Wayne. Its just a damn shame it couldnt have been better for the Pitt show.


You look really good IMO..........Just need to slowly add some mass but you have good symetry and certainly know how to come into shows conditioned. A few more lbs of muscle and you will do well.

Quads seem to be a little ahead of the upper body.

Thank you bro. I do not wish to get as heavy as I did the past offseason..it turned into a numbers game. I have another thread going to track my progress over the next year so stop in time to time.

[Fjock]

LoL. I wish it was like that, but it was mostly chicks I knew. : )

haha yea I was trying to get the name of the one chick at the end but the crowd was so loud as it was emptying out I couldnt hear what she said her name was. She said she was on your facebook though so im sure she'll find me or vise versa.

[Fjock]

GOOD JOB MIKE... NOW THATS A TAN!!!

Wayne... I cant tell you how clutch it would have been to have had you snapping pictures for this contest... Your amazing camera work would leave 0 doubts in anyones mind.

[Sporto1633]

Thanks for your input... but I still find it interesting that each person that feels i lost is a 1st time poster.

That has nothing to do with it...A lot of great competitors all over the world despise the bb.com boards and refuse to post here. But, if they catch wind that someone is throwing false accusations around and making assumptions based on nothing, then they might have felt the need to say their peace on the situation instead of having many people in this sport thinking they had a show fixed.


But if you were indeed an unbiased spectator at this show who just happened to stumble upon this thread with never posting on this forum before...... I respect your opinion and advice, thank you.

Hopefully this is a learning experience as well on how to handle adversity. You are young, and the way you handled your disappointment was immature and very poor sportsmanship, even if you didn't mean it to come across that way- hopefully you can see that now and choose your words better in the future when you don't get your way. Throwing false accusations at people you don't even know based on nothing is not how you go about it.


When it comes down to it we are gonna have to wait for decent quality pre judging comparison pics to be put up to get critique from the majority of the members here. You have to remember here, I dont even know what we looked like side by side except for what I saw in the pump up room mirrors. My reaction is almost purely feeding off of what I heard from mass amounts of complete strangers both back stage and in the crowd. If it was just family and friends telling me that I should have won, I wouldnt have much to say?

There is a lot to be learned here. If you are going to make it in this sport, you need to humble yourself and leave the ego behind. If you don't place 1st (or the way you like for that matter), you can't take it personal and start pointing the finger at everyone else. Your first posts after the results were blaming everything and everyone else but YOU. I could have commented earlier on your pictures from the first competition and the recent ones a few days out, but in the midst of all the "bro, your awesome" comments, I didn't want you to take the criticism wrong (I felt you would). Seeing as how you handled the results, I might have been right. Your legs are very weak compared to your upper body. They are not well conditioned to match. In your pics, the back of your legs are very soft and weak. In bodybuilding, it's not about the upper body. The legs are so crucial because SYMMETRY is a very big part of this. If you don't match your legs with your upper body and someone else has, and also has you on conditioning, then you will lose almost every time. Plus, you aren't lean enough to be doing the whole water cut/fat load thing that you think works so well. I saw your pics on MD and I don't see any difference in vascularity (or much vascularity at all for that matter). Even your night before pics don't really show any veins hardly at all, when they should. You are lean in the upper body and have great size there, but you don't quite have the total package yet.

I'm not saying any of this other than to help you. If you are going to make it in this sport, you need to learn these things. Humble yourself. Don't point the finger anywhere else but yourself if you don't place the way you want. You still have weeks left before your legs are striated and cut in the back. So when someone beats you on conditioning, you have no excuse except you didn't prepare enough. That's on you. Accept it, learn from it, and come in even more sliced the next time. Also, posting false accusations on a public forum is NOT how you get picked up for sponsorship (I saw you mentioning you need help in this arena). If people are going to follow you and look up to you, you need to handle this kind of thing a lot better. Supplement companies don't want to deal with people always claiming fixed shows, and people knowing the judges, and all that false crap. If you want sponsorship, you'll need to learn how to act in a public forum. This also comes with ridding yourself of the ego and humbling yourself. Just learn from it and be better...that's all you can do.

Again, this is all to HELP you in this sport. If you are bodybuilding for the right reasons, you won't take it so personal when you don't place 1st.

Now, a big congrats on your placing. Qualifying for nationals at your age is awesome and something many people don't get a chance to say they've accomplished. Now that you've seen where your weak areas are, get back to the drawing board and make every workout session in the offseason count! Come back bigger and leaner next time...the sky's the limit.

Sporto

[Sporto1633]

This is a forum where you have tracked/commented on your progress and results...so why not be able to speak your opinion on how you feel the show went. I think people are being a little too defensive. I do want to see some pics.....I'm sure many of us want to mention our opinion. So I look fwd. to that.

Yes, very true...but there is a way to go about doing that, and I think he failed here. It's one thing to call a spade a spade, but another thing completely different to start throwing false accusations around. That kind of thing isn't looked to highly upon and is the reason why someone might sign up to BB.com just to say their peace of mind on it. I mean, we're talking about a competitor's reputation here of winning a show people are claiming is fixed. I would do the same if my reputation was on the line and someone was trying to take all the months of hard work I put into winning a show away from me with accusations like that.

Not to mention if Fjock really wants to pick up a sponsor, he needs to handle himself publicly (like on this forum for instance) in a more mature manner and learn how to handle adversity.

Sporto

[Fjock]

That has nothing to do with it...A lot of great competitors all over the world despise the bb.com boards and refuse to post here. But, if they catch wind that someone is throwing false accusations around and making assumptions based on nothing, then they might have felt the need to say their peace on the situation instead of having many people in this sport thinking they had a show fixed.



Hopefully this is a learning experience as well on how to handle adversity. You are young, and the way you handled your disappointment was immature and very poor sportsmanship, even if you didn't mean it to come across that way- hopefully you can see that now and choose your words better in the future when you don't get your way. Throwing false accusations at people you don't even know based on nothing is not how you go about it.



There is a lot to be learned here. If you are going to make it in this sport, you need to humble yourself and leave the ego behind. If you don't place 1st (or the way you like for that matter), you can't take it personal and start pointing the finger at everyone else. Your first posts after the results were blaming everything and everyone else but YOU. I could have commented earlier on your pictures from the first competition and the recent ones a few days out, but in the midst of all the "bro, your awesome" comments, I didn't want you to take the criticism wrong (I felt you would). Seeing as how you handled the results, I might have been right. Your legs are very weak compared to your upper body. They are not well conditioned to match. In your pics, the back of your legs are very soft and weak. In bodybuilding, it's not about the upper body. The legs are so crucial because SYMMETRY is a very big part of this. If you don't match your legs with your upper body and someone else has, and also has you on conditioning, then you will lose almost every time. Plus, you aren't lean enough to be doing the whole water cut/fat load thing that you think works so well. I saw your pics on MD and I don't see any difference in vascularity (or much vascularity at all for that matter). Even your night before pics don't really show any veins hardly at all, when they should. You are lean in the upper body and have great size there, but you don't quite have the total package yet.

I'm not saying any of this other than to help you. If you are going to make it in this sport, you need to learn these things. Humble yourself. Don't point the finger anywhere else but yourself if you don't place the way you want. You still have weeks left before your legs are striated and cut in the back. So when someone beats you on conditioning, you have no excuse except you didn't prepare enough. That's on you. Accept it, learn from it, and come in even more sliced the next time. Also, posting false accusations on a public forum is NOT how you get picked up for sponsorship (I saw you mentioning you need help in this arena). If people are going to follow you and look up to you, you need to handle this kind of thing a lot better. Supplement companies don't want to deal with people always claiming fixed shows, and people knowing the judges, and all that false crap. If you want sponsorship, you'll need to learn how to act in a public forum. This also comes with ridding yourself of the ego and humbling yourself. Just learn from it and be better...that's all you can do.

Again, this is all to HELP you in this sport. If you are bodybuilding for the right reasons, you won't take it so personal when you don't place 1st.

Now, a big congrats on your placing. Qualifying for nationals at your age is awesome and something many people don't get a chance to say they've accomplished. Now that you've seen where your weak areas are, get back to the drawing board and make every workout session in the offseason count! Come back bigger and leaner next time...the sky's the limit.

Sporto

Thanks a ton for your input Sporto. I dont know if you have seen me post it here and there, but whenever someone ask me about me weak points I always throw how I feel about my legs into the discussion. I know for a fact that I am well documented on this forum for critiquing the weakness in my own legs. You can always feel free to critique what you feel i may be lacking. Ive always accepted it very well I feel on these boards. So I agree with where you say my weakness are because you are one of many to tell me the same thing. No one knows my weaknesses better than I and thats why Ive tired so hard to make my legs my point of emphasis over the past couple years. Like you mentioned, they still have a long way to go... but compared to what I started with ive still made a great deal of progress on my wheels and you can bet that they will remain my P.O.E.

But as far as critiquing my legs from the pictures from the pitt... thats was with 11.5 weeks of dieting bro which is why that particular show was originally planned as a warmup. By no means did have i intentions of being able to get shredded to the glutes in that short of a time... I know its going to take a good deal longer than that to really get the striations I want in my quads. Please remember I am trying to finish school and I can only give myself so many weeks of dieting before my grades really start going downhill.

I tried to stress the fact earlier but just let me say its not about me not be able to handle losing. Anyone whos tracked my responses after not getting 1st in various shows will tell you that I pretty much never critiqued the judging of my own contest. I was ecstatic to place 5th at the pitt, i was beyond thrilled with my 2nd place to nationally qualify. There is only this one instance that has brought out this type of response from me. Therefore I consider myself fairly humble in this sport and I ask that you dont judge my entire character based on this one instance.

I respect your advice about the sponsorship. And im not trying to take a shot at you or be smart... but im very happy to mention that I landed a pretty sweet sponsorship last night. Not with a supplement company or anything but certainly enough to fuel my progress in the near future.

[Fjock]

Not to mention if Fjock really wants to pick up a sponsor, he needs to handle himself publicly (like on this forum for instance) in a more mature manner and learn how to handle adversity.

Sporto

Once again, this has been taken care of bud :). And you want to know what the funny thing is about the phone interview? I was being told that i was being TOO humble when responding to their questions and was instructed to sound more confident in what I bring to the table if extra offers become available. but I see what you are saying bro its good advice.

[Fjock]

Plus, you aren't lean enough to be doing the whole water cut/fat load thing that you think works so well. I saw your pics on MD and I don't see any difference in vascularity (or much vascularity at all for that matter). Even your night before pics don't really show any veins hardly at all, when they should. You are lean in the upper body and have great size there, but you don't quite have the total package yet.


I will be the first to tell you that at 21 years old I have anything but the "total package" yet. But if my watercut/fat load thing didnt work so well, can you help explain why it helped me place so well this season? Remember man you are judging my leanness without even 12 weeks of dieting. That level of conditioning was simply expected by myself at that point. After talking with judges after the show I was told i was placed ahead of third and 4th in the Heavy Open for appearing to be drier so it just contradicts what im getting from you a bit...

And btw, how can you tell if my fat load worked or not if we have not posted any pictures after my fat load had even taken place. The one night out pictures you saw had nearly no fat load involved yet. It always takes place for me the morning of the contest.

[jtc0822]

Brian,

As i said in my post....take my criticism for what it is worth. As a National level competitor and an NPC judge, I thought my opinion may be of some value.

[Fjock]

Brian,

As i said in my post....take my criticism for what it is worth. As a National level competitor and an NPC judge, I thought my opinion may be of some value.

I will and have as stated before. Thank you once again for your input. I apologize if you took any offense to me mentioning that you were a first time poster. Just nearly impossible to tell where advice is coming from until you identify yourself like you just have so thank you very much sir.

[stayfit2008]

Fjock,..This kinda looks like the "Storm before the Calm" so to speak,...I think after this you will rise up and beyond any occassion! Congrats on your placement and looking forward to seeing your mug in the pros! thumbs up!

[Fjock]

Fjock,..This kinda looks like the "Storm before the Calm" so to speak,...I think after this you will rise up and beyond any occassion! Congrats on your placement and looking forward to seeing your mug in the pros! thumbs up!

haha I certainly hope you are right and thanks a ton for the words bro. Ill do my best to not let you down.

[jtc0822]

Brian.. check your PM

[Fjock]

Brian.. check your PM

responded :). Thank you for sending that by the way

[mxsprocket1]

Some more photos. Overall lineup

http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0025s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0024s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0023s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0022s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0020s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0019s.JPG
http://www.photodump.org/stored23/DSCN0018s.JPG

[njmuscle66]

Dude in the blue won the overall?

[Fjock]

Sweet pics man, the guy to the far left is the one who beat me in the open. Great guy...

[mxsprocket1]

The man in the red (George I think) won the overall

[Fjock]

The man in the red (George I think) won the overall

yup, im very proud to have placed 2nd to him. Apparently hes been doing that show for a number of years and flat out got what he deserved. I was already cheering my ass off when I realized that the open heavy came down to just me and him. It was already a major victory for me at that point. He is a member of bb.com. Congrats George!

[njmuscle66]

see judging is a strange thing-I would have gone with the LHW LOL

[mxsprocket1]

yup, im very proud to have placed 2nd to him. Apparently hes been doing that show for a number of years and flat out got what he deserved. I was already cheering my ass off when I realized that the open heavy came down to just me and him. It was already a major victory for me at that point. He is a member of bb.com. Congrats George!

Yeah, I was watching you from the side...almost had a little Ronnie moment. Drops to knees an crys.

lol

[Fjock]

Yeah, I was watching you from the side...almost had a little Ronnie moment. Drops to knees an crys.

lol

lol bro you can bet your ass if I somehow got 1st I would have cried like a baby...

[Fjock]

damn mike, did you ever think months ago when you first started your precontest log and I first posted in it mentioning that I would be doing the same 2 contest as you, that we would be both be sharing national qualification status when it was all said and done? haha I love this **** man. We def fed off of each others determination these last few weeks and got it done homey. Just wanted to thank you for helping me stay focused bro. You helped keep my mind in the right place for sure.

[Sporto1633]

Thanks a ton for your input Sporto. I dont know if you have seen me post it here and there, but whenever someone ask me about me weak points I always throw how I feel about my legs into the discussion. I know for a fact that I am well documented on this forum for critiquing the weakness in my own legs. You can always feel free to critique what you feel i may be lacking. Ive always accepted it very well I feel on these boards. So I agree with where you say my weakness are because you are one of many to tell me the same thing. No one knows my weaknesses better than I and thats why Ive tired so hard to make my legs my point of emphasis over the past couple years. Like you mentioned, they still have a long way to go... but compared to what I started with ive still made a great deal of progress on my wheels and you can bet that they will remain my P.O.E.

I haven't seen many posts from you on here other than the recent ones about the upcoming shows. I wasn't implying that you didn't know your legs were a weak point, I was merely stating that they were to help further my point on your first post about the way you handled the results. Your lower body did not match your upper body and they weren't conditioned - anyone with symmetry and conditioning could've beaten you, yet you were so quick to say it was all fixed. The point was, you aren't good enough yet to make it a "no-brainer" decision, so stop blaming everyone else but you.


But as far as critiquing my legs from the pictures from the pitt... thats was with 11.5 weeks of dieting bro which is why that particular show was originally planned as a warmup. By no means did have i intentions of being able to get shredded to the glutes in that short of a time... I know its going to take a good deal longer than that to really get the striations I want in my quads. Please remember I am trying to finish school and I can only give myself so many weeks of dieting before my grades really start going downhill.

It doesn't matter how much dieting it was, or what all else you have going on in your life, the fact is you decided to compete after only dieting that long and it wasn't enough. That was the critique if you read my post - you are weeks away from striated glutes and hamstrings. You replied that you knew that already and that wasn't your intention. Ok fine, I didn't know that. My comment was merely based off of what I saw, nothing more. But keep in mind, it doesn't matter what you have going on in your life, school, grades, etc., because EVERYONE has a great deal going on in their life and still diets for shows. Most have families, kids, careers, etc., and they go through the same sacrifice you do. So pointing out that you can only diet so long because of grades is just an excuse. I'm sorry if you don't see it that way, but it is. You think that the guys that win these shows don't sacrifice, relationships, jobs, time away from children, etc.? Yet the ones that win will show up in that condition. You have it easy compared to that. It's important for you to understand accountability, and what is and isn't making an excuse, if you are to continue this sport. I'm pointing this out to help you - nothing more.


I tried to stress the fact earlier but just let me say its not about me not be able to handle losing. Anyone whos tracked my responses after not getting 1st in various shows will tell you that I pretty much never critiqued the judging of my own contest. I was ecstatic to place 5th at the pitt, i was beyond thrilled with my 2nd place to nationally qualify. There is only this one instance that has brought out this type of response from me. Therefore I consider myself fairly humble in this sport and I ask that you dont judge my entire character based on this one instance.

Fair enough, my comment was prompted after being appalled at your response to this one. Like I said, I haven't seen you post here much at all except here just recently about these shows. I saw your thoughts about the first one. That was great, although you really didn't seem to care to win that one like you did this one. So when you didn't win, your response in multiple posts is what I was commenting on. I'm not judging you, again you can't take this personal. I'm pointing these things out to help you. When you can step back and actually recognize the way you react, the way you say things, the way they come across, etc., that's when you can understand that there's a right way to handle it.


Once again, this has been taken care of bud :). And you want to know what the funny thing is about the phone interview? I was being told that i was being TOO humble when responding to their questions and was instructed to sound more confident in what I bring to the table if extra offers become available. but I see what you are saying bro its good advice.

And that's great news! This sport isn't cheap and every little bit helps! That's why I even bother to say the things I am. You DO have a bright future in this sport, and I don't want to see you end up the way most do. The more you post online in a helpful, humble manner, the more people will follow you - and THAT is what supplement companies look for.


I will be the first to tell you that at 21 years old I have anything but the "total package" yet. But if my watercut/fat load thing didnt work so well, can you help explain why it helped me place so well this season? Remember man you are judging my leanness without even 12 weeks of dieting. That level of conditioning was simply expected by myself at that point. After talking with judges after the show I was told i was placed ahead of third and 4th in the Heavy Open for appearing to be drier so it just contradicts what im getting from you a bit...QUOTE]

Oh come on, are you kidding me with this? Placing well has NOTHING to do with looking your absolute best. Placing is determined by who all shows up in what condition and how it all compares to how YOU show up in what condition. I stated what I did because I have yet to see any difference it makes in the way you look a couple days out, to the way you look on show day.

Ok, so you don't have 12 weeks of dieting and aren't as lean as you could be, do you really think ANY manipulation of water and your fat load is going to make ANY difference at all at your level of bodyfat anyway? I mean, seriously, how much of a difference do you think any of that manipulation even makes when you actually are lean? Not much buddy, which is why when people aren't as lean as they should be anyway, most will recommend not to manipulate anything. More than likely it will make you look worse.

And the "dry" comment from the judges is relative. I'm in no way taking anything away from you, but if only a couple of people are lean/dry enough to begin with, then of course, you'll place ahead of them if you appear better than them. You do realize that most people who use that protocol are the ones that completely miss the exact timing and almost always look worse on stage than they do a day or two before and after, right? And if they weren't as lean as you, they would obviously appear softer. You hear the comment from judges all the time "you were holding water" when more than likely it isn;t a water/dry issue at all, rather a bodyfat issue. This isn't about who you placed ahead of because you were in better shape. I'm only bringing this up to help YOU. I could care less about the people you beat that didn't come in as good as shape as you. You could be far more vascular, harder, etc. There are posts in this thread from the others that even said, if it was scored correctly, you were going to lose because you weren't as hard or dry as the other guy. This is about you being the best you can. You do whatever you want. I'm only taking the time to respond to try and help. THAT is why I wanted to see good pics of you as you were cutting water. I said in an earlier post that I wanted to see a noticeable difference. Did you? You were already dry and lean in the upper body before you cut water. Did you just appear on show day all veiny and vascular from being so "dry" and having no sub Q water? That's what I'm getting at. And what about the legs? Were they dry to the bone as well?

[QUOTE=Fjock;167971861]And btw, how can you tell if my fat load worked or not if we have not posted any pictures after my fat load had even taken place. The one night out pictures you saw had nearly no fat load involved yet. It always takes place for me the morning of the contest.

I'd love to see these...I was merely going by your 2 days out pics to your night before pics where there is no difference. But, I would love to see your stage pictures whenever you get a chance.

Sporto

[Sporto1633]

see judging is a strange thing-I would have gone with the LHW LOL

From those pics, so would I...but it is so hard to tell from that angle. Plus, you can't expect everybody to be in the pose at the same time the camera flashes, so it makes it even more difficult to tell by comparison.

Sporto

[Fjock]

It doesn?t matter how much dieting it was, or what all else you have going on in your life, the fact is you decided to compete after only dieting that long and it wasn?t enough. That was the critique if you read my post ? you are weeks away from striated glutes and hamstrings. You replied that you knew that already and that wasn?t your intention. Ok fine, I didn?t know that. My comment was merely based off of what I saw, nothing more. But keep in mind, it doesn?t matter what you have going on in your life, school, grades, etc?because EVERYONE has a great deal going on in their life and diets for shows. Most have families, kids, careers, etc?and they go through the same sacrifice you do. So pointing out that you can only diet so long because of grades is just an excuse. I?m sorry if you don?t see it that way, but it is. You think the guys that win these shows don?t sacrifice, relationships, jobs, time away from children, etc.? You have it easy compared to that. It?s important for you to understand accountability, and what is and isn?t making an excuse, if you are to continue this sport. I?m pointing this out to help you?nothing more.

Sporto

I didnt mean to come off as to say that only I have important things going on in my life and everyone else has it much easier. I was more so alluding to the fact that my parents are the ones paying for school. And when you are dealing with someone elses money like that, I cant be screwing around and messing up my grades with competition prep. Its not about the difficulty of school compared to what others have to do in life, its about respecting that fact that im getting help financially to graduate and if I diet for too long I put that in jeopardy. I should have been more specific when making that point. Yours is well taken though

[Sporto1633]

I didnt mean to come off as to say that only I have important things going on in my life and everyone else has it much easier. I was more so alluding to the fact that my parents are the ones paying for school. And when you are dealing with someone elses money like that, I cant be screwing around and messing up my grades with competition prep. Its not about the difficulty of school compared to what others have to do in life, its about respecting that fact that im getting help financially to graduate and if I diet for too long I put that in jeopardy. I should have been more specific when making that point. Yours is well taken though

I comepletely understand. Of course you can't mess around with that...I just didn't want anybody else reading that to take it as an excuse - so it's good that you clarified it! :D

Sporto

[Fjock]

Oh come on, are you kidding me with this? Placing well has NOTHING to do with looking your absolute best. Placing is determined by who all shows up in what condition and how it all compares to how YOU show up in what condition.


You are 100% correct here. And I feel that the competitors i faced in both competitions were extremely tough. This is of course a matter of opinion though... What I do know is that the Pitt and the Lehigh bring some of the toughest amateur competition in this region.

[Fjock]

And the "dry" comment from the judges is relative. I'm in no way taking anything away from you, but if only a couple of people are lean/dry enough to begin with, then of course, you'll place ahead of them if you appear better than them. You do realize that most people who use that protocol are the ones that completely miss the exact timing and almost always look worse on stage than they do a day or two before and after, right? And if they weren't as lean as you, they would obviously appear softer. You hear the comment from judges all the time "you were holding water" when more than likely it isn;t a water/dry issue at all, rather a bodyfat issue. This isn't about who you placed ahead of because you were in better shape. I'm only bringing this up to help YOU. I could care less about the people you beat that didn't come in as good as shape as you. You could be far more vascular, harder, etc. There are posts in this thread from the others that even said, if it was scored correctly, you were going to lose because you weren't as hard or dry as the other guy. This is about you being the best you can. You do whatever you want. I'm only taking the time to respond to try and help. THAT is why I wanted to see good pics of you as you were cutting water. I said in an earlier post that I wanted to see a noticeable difference. Did you? You were already dry and lean in the upper body before you cut water. Did you just appear on show day all veiny and vascular from being so "dry" and having no sub Q water? That's what I'm getting at. And what about the legs? Were they dry to the bone as well?
Sporto

I can easily admit that I have not hit my drying out/fat load technique head on yet. After all I still have so much more trial and error to go through before I truly nail it. I did my prep the past 2 years with no coach so everything is done on pure research and tweaking from my prior experiences. But at the same time... I keep placing fairly well with my techniques so its tough for me to want to totally start from scratch and trying something completely different. After that much dieting Id hate to introduce something totally new and mess it up. Especially without the help of a coach. I hope to finish school in a decent amount of time and return to Miami so I can be reunited with my coach and he can really kick my ass since im no longer a teen like I was when we first worked together. So in the end, im just trying to stick with whats been working along with my dieting times which clearly still have not been long enough. This is why I hope to do collegiate nationals next time where the show is well in the middle of the summer and I could take maybe a 16 week approach instead.

[Sporto1633]

I can easily admit that I have not hit my drying out/fat load technique head on yet. After all I still have so much more trial and error to go through before I truly nail it. I did my prep the past 2 years with no coach so everything is done on pure research and tweaking from my prior experiences. But at the same time... I keep placing fairly well with my techniques so its tough for me to want to totally start from scratch and trying something completely different. After that much dieting Id hate to introduce something totally new and mess it up. Especially without the help of a coach. I hope to finish school in a decent amount of time and return to Miami so I can be reunited with my coach and he can really kick my ass since im no longer a teen like I was when we first worked together. So in the end, im just trying to stick with whats been working along with my dieting times which clearly still have not been long enough. This is why I hope to do collegiate nationals next time where the show is well in the middle of the summer and I could take maybe a 16 week approach instead.

The main point being:

Do you really notice a difference at all? Have you been lean enough to see any increase in vascularity? See any new striations that weren't there the day or two before?

Sporto

[Fjock]

The main point being:

Do you really notice a difference at all? Have you been lean enough to see any increase in vascularity? See any new striations that weren't there the day or two before?

Sporto

truthfully yes, but like you mentioned, the timing is the tricky part... In other words, timing my fatload meals on contest day better because at certain times after a crap meal on contest day my vascularity gets out of control. An example would be the meal after prejuding... my brother looks to me while we are at Applebees and says, "jesus christ man look at your veins". but they come and go on contest day, which is why I bring up the timing of those meals. This technique is handed down directly to me from an IFBB pro, thats why i have faith in it and continue to try and nail it. Ive been told by the same pro thats its all about trial and error... just gotta keep trying until I get the timing perfect I feel... or until I get involved with a new coach who has some great techniques of his own... just something I couldnt afford these past couple years though so I'm still working with my older techniques

[mikepa1945]

Heavy pre judging
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQDwIvJ7MXo

Light weight (I think this is the light weight, the head judge did not announce the class's so that the audience could hear)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-fzp0dGqis

I was in the audience and have attended many BB contests in NJ/PA, this contest did have problems for a person in the audience. 1. The judge did not require a most muscular pose until a person in the audience shouted "judge how about a most muscular" 2. The women were given a large amount of time, as the judge said for the women "nice eye candy", but the men were rushed in the pre judging and I think they all suffered for that. 3. The lighting was poor on either side of the stage so it was difficult to see a competitors defination, most contests put auxilary lights on the stage.

But this contest had an a lot of guys competing , many more than last year and the calibur was much higher than last year. I think all of the guys competing showed great development and therefore it was very difficult to pick a winner.

[Fjock]

Heavy pre judging
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQDwIvJ7MXo

Light weight (I think this is the light weight, the head judge did not announce the class's so that the audience could hear)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-fzp0dGqis

I was in the audience and have attended many BB contests in NJ/PA, this contest did have problems for a person in the audience. 1. The judge did not require a most muscular pose until a person in the audience shouted "judge how about a most muscular" 2. The women were given a large amount of time, as the judge said for the women "nice eye candy", but the men were rushed in the pre judging and I think they all suffered for that. 3. The lighting was poor on either side of the stage so it was difficult to see a competitors defination, most contests put auxilary lights on the stage.

But this contest had an a lot of guys competing , many more than last year and the calibur was much higher than last year. I think all of the guys competing showed great development and therefore it was very difficult to pick a winner.

This is so true, the funny thing is I was on stage when someone yelled out about the most muscular. I think it was during the open though. This was what upset me initially about the judging. If you are going to place me 2nd in the junior fine whatever, but at least give the competitors a chance to hit all the mandatories at least once. Different competitors have different strongest poses and for me Ive been frequently told it is my best pose. If you dont call out my strongest pose how am I supposed to to receive the points that I could have potentially earned? That one pose can make all the difference in the final decision on the score cards when it comes down to it if the scoring is close enough. Which in this case, it apparently was extremely close. I could understand them missing it in some other shows that ive done, but not a level 5...

Thanks again for posting the videos bro.

[Fjock]

haha just watching that video brings back the pain of having to squeeze that long throughout all the switching around. Unfortunately im not seen in the video very much because im to the far right.... Which confused me when I placed 2nd.. I certainly didnt expect to place that high based on how long they kept me to the far right (When facing the stage).

Jeez you can really see the level of exhaustion on some of our faces and from the body language by the end of that video

[mxsprocket1]

haha just watching that video brings back the pain of having to squeeze that long throughout all the switching around. Unfortunately im not seen in the video very much because im to the far right.... Which confused me when I placed 2nd.. I certainly didnt expect to place that high based on how long they kept me to the far right (When facing the stage).

Jeez you can really see the level of exhaustion on some of our faces and from the body language by the end of that video

That crap was crazy. Started to cramp up bad.

[Fjock]

That crap was crazy. Started to cramp up bad.

ya bro I thought I was gonna be in big trouble based on the cramps I was getting backstage. But the longer I pumped up the less I was cramping so thats the route I had to take.

[Billyspt4]

haha just watching that video brings back the pain of having to squeeze that long throughout all the switching around. Unfortunately im not seen in the video very much because im to the far right.... Which confused me when I placed 2nd.. I certainly didnt expect to place that high based on how long they kept me to the far right (When facing the stage).

Jeez you can really see the level of exhaustion on some of our faces and from the body language by the end of that video


After watching that video, you weren't on there that long, but they could've just had you compared to someone else looking for 2nd, 3rd, 4th. I've seen judges move people all over the place and leave the 1st or 2nd on the end. I have been in that sequence before and it's a little disappointing, but just goes to show that you really have no idea.

I can't remember who brought up the fact about posing (I mean ****, there's been 9 books written in this one thread), but one critism I would point out is that in your relaxed pose, I'd say your arms are a little high, but that's just me. I'm not a judge, don't claim to be and I'm BY FAR a perfect poser, just something I noticed and am merely throwing my 2 cents into the ring. That probably didn't play a factor in any placings in this show, but may in the future, you never know.

[AaronSchultz]

When and where will they be posted? i only have one alright photo from the show.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/lil21aaron/aaronlehighles1.jpg

[Fjock]

When and where will they be posted? i only have one alright photo from the show.



bro i have no clue when or where they are supposed to be posted. I got so spoiled with how quickly musculardevelopment handled the pics at the Pittsburgh that I didnt stop to think about the pics for this show. The pics from my brothers digi cam are of such low quality they arent even worth posting... So i guess we just gotta wait.

What I do know is that they are going to have to be pics of the whole group in order to compare because I dont recall them ever putting us side by side... which i also thought was strange because we were hands down top 2.

[Fjock]

After watching that video, you weren't on there that long, but they could've just had you compared to someone else looking for 2nd, 3rd, 4th. I've seen judges move people all over the place and leave the 1st or 2nd on the end. I have been in that sequence before and it's a little disappointing, but just goes to show that you really have no idea.

I can't remember who brought up the fact about posing (I mean ****, there's been 9 books written in this one thread), but one critism I would point out is that in your relaxed pose, I'd say your arms are a little high, but that's just me. I'm not a judge, don't claim to be and I'm BY FAR a perfect poser, just something I noticed and am merely throwing my 2 cents into the ring. That probably didn't play a factor in any placings in this show, but may in the future, you never know.

First thing I noticed too, I do def hold my arms high in my relaxed pose. But it helps toward the end for me. When you start hearing the judge say relax towards the end and guys start dropping their arms all the way to their sides because they are tired, Im able to keep that same pose by resting my arms on my lats if you can picture what I mean. Seems to use less energy... but yea its something ill work with a coach on in the future.

[Billyspt4]

First thing I noticed too, I do def hold my arms high in my relaxed pose. But it helps toward the end for me. When you start hearing the judge say relax towards the end and guys start dropping their arms all the way to their sides because they are tired, Im able to keep that same pose by resting my arms on my lats if you can picture what I mean. Seems to use less energy... but yea its something ill work with a coach on in the future.

Yea, I know what you mean, I never thought of it that way, but I guess it would help in that aspect. I just noticed that because in a show I did this year, a guy had his arms up kind of like that and one of the judges was talking to me afterwards and said he couldn't figure out how the guy who looked as though he was riding a chopper could place high because of his posing. Just thought I'd give you the heads up, but looks as though you caught it too ;)

[Fjock]

Yea, I know what you mean, I never thought of it that way, but I guess it would help in that aspect. I just noticed that because in a show I did this year, a guy had his arms up kind of like that and one of the judges was talking to me afterwards and said he couldn't figure out how the guy who looked as though he was riding a chopper could place high because of his posing. Just thought I'd give you the heads up, but looks as though you caught it too ;)

LOL @ riding a chopper. hahaha

[mxsprocket1]

If we are lucky, some photos may be on here (Bodybuilding.com) but unfortunately, MD did not cover this event this year.

[fltallpaul]

One thing I hate about bodybuilding is the sites rarely get photos up in a timely manner....maybe I am wrong but I look on the natural org sites and its sometimes months before they get posted...and by then other shows are being promoted. I think it would help small and local shows a great deal if they made a concerted effort to get results and pics online swiftly.

MD does a great job with what they cover...especially the in the trench series.

My training partners Mom is a professional photographer and is coming to my show. I am hoping she gets some good pictures. She has never photographed a bodybuilding show before but she takes amazing pics...I am looking forward to seeing what she captures.

[supermannpc]

A little advice for next time. Next time you guys compete take pictures backstage of all of your poses. Also do the same at the night show.
#1 This will give you quality pics to show friends and family

#2 It will show you the difference between the prejudging and finals. What you ate different. Did you look better or worse. This is a good way to help figure out your body and what works for you.

Stage pics never come out well unless they are taken by a professional. Brian I think you mentioned MD. Bill Comstock is a great photographer

[Fjock]

A little advice for next time. Next time you guys compete take pictures backstage of all of your poses. Also do the same at the night show.
#1 This will give you quality pics to show friends and family

#2 It will show you the difference between the prejudging and finals. What you ate different. Did you look better or worse. This is a good way to help figure out your body and what works for you.

Stage pics never come out well unless they are taken by a professional. Brian I think you mentioned MD. Bill Comstock is a great photographer

Yes, and he started uploading them on MD literally the night of the contest. Awesome photographer

[Sporto1633]

truthfully yes, but like you mentioned, the timing is the tricky part... In other words, timing my fatload meals on contest day better because at certain times after a crap meal on contest day my vascularity gets out of control. An example would be the meal after prejuding... my brother looks to me while we are at Applebees and says, "jesus christ man look at your veins". but they come and go on contest day, which is why I bring up the timing of those meals. This technique is handed down directly to me from an IFBB pro, thats why i have faith in it and continue to try and nail it. Ive been told by the same pro thats its all about trial and error... just gotta keep trying until I get the timing perfect I feel... or until I get involved with a new coach who has some great techniques of his own... just something I couldnt afford these past couple years though so I'm still working with my older techniques

There's actually a very good reason why that almost is always the case...and I essentially use this little secret to have the vascularity I want AT prejudging ;)

Oh, and it has nothing to do with the meal...

Sporto

[Fjock]

There's actually a very good reason why that almost is always the case...and I essentially use this little secret to have the vascularity I want AT prejudging ;)

Oh, and it has nothing to do with the meal...

Sporto

yes well, needless to say at 21 I still have very limited experience and am still figuring all this stuff out as I go along. Im sure not using a coach makes things a little bit tougher but Im content with what I've been able to accomplish on my own thus far :).

Im sure you had some trial and error to go through as well at my age... that is if you had even hit the stage yet.

[fltallpaul]

yes well, needless to say at 21 I still have very limited experience and am still figuring all this stuff out as I go along. Im sure not using a coach makes things a little bit tougher but Im content with what I've been able to accomplish on my own thus far :).

Im sure you had some trial and error to go through as well at my age... that is if you had even hit the stage yet.

You aint done nothing yet....compared to what you will do...the experience you are gaining is priceless and will serve you in whatever you do...

Now Tommy...do tell...

[Fjock]

You aint done nothing yet....compared to what you will do...the experience you are gaining is priceless and will serve you in whatever you do...

Now Tommy...do tell...

Thanks paul! you are one encouraging mofo

[Sporto1633]

yes well, needless to say at 21 I still have very limited experience and am still figuring all this stuff out as I go along. Im sure not using a coach makes things a little bit tougher but Im content with what I've been able to accomplish on my own thus far :).

Im sure you had some trial and error to go through as well at my age... that is if you had even hit the stage yet.

I realize that...that wasn't the point of the post. There's something that goes on there - that's what I was pointing out. It wasn't directed at you.

I have had much trial and error, and will continue to do so.

And no, at 21 I was playing professional baseball in the minor leagues...so no, I hadn't stepped on the stage yet.

Not sure about the tone of your post, but if you are taking it as something personal like a "I know and you don't" then you are completely missing it. It was a discussion starter, but nevermind. I'm now going to stop posting in your threads. Best of luck to you.

Sporto

[Sporto1633]

You aint done nothing yet....compared to what you will do...the experience you are gaining is priceless and will serve you in whatever you do...

Now Tommy...do tell...

Nah...maybe another time. Hit me up on a PM before you compete and we'll talk...

Sporto

[Fjock]

I realize that...that wasn't the point of the post. There's something that goes on there - that's what I was pointing out. It wasn't directed at you.

I have had much trial and error, and will continue to do so.

And no, at 21 I was playing professional baseball in the minor leagues...so no, I hadn't stepped on the stage yet.

Not sure about the tone of your post, but if you are taking it as something personal like a "I know and you don't" then you are completely missing it. It was a discussion starter, but nevermind. I'm now going to stop posting in your threads. Best of luck to you.

Sporto

Not at all bud, sorry if thats what you got from it... Best of luck to you as well (not that you need it) You already have your pro status :)

[Fjock]

I know this is extremely off topic, but its awesome to be able to go to the movie theater again and i urge ALL of you to go see that new Ironman movie. just saw it a couple of hours ago... SICK!!!

[yzrider400f]

I know this is extremely off topic, but its awesome to be able to go to the movie theater again and i urge ALL of you to go see that new Ironman movie. just saw it a couple of hours ago... SICK!!!

lol what do you mean be able to go to the movie theater? you can't while in contest prep?

[duncanlukas]

unless u wanna bring food with u...i cant even go to a movie theater anymore cuz i either have to get up to piss every 10 min or i just dont fit in the seats..

[Fjock]

lol what do you mean be able to go to the movie theater? you can't while in contest prep?

Dude the smell of the popcorn and all the other junk food drives me absolutely nuts. I simply cant handle it without cheating. So i just dont allow myself to go...

[Billyspt4]

The more I read through this thread, I can't believe how pissed off and defensive EVERYBODY has gotten at some point....Then it dawned on me, Spring Fever has hit and there's just to much Testosterone in this thread....For those of you who don't know what "Spring Fever" is, it's just something that I've been told (as a joke) guys get when the weather gets nice and we all see girls in their mini skirts and shorts and feel the need to pounce. Hence explaing why there's so many November through January babies :)

[Fjock]

The more I read through this thread, I can't believe how pissed off and defensive EVERYBODY has gotten at some point....Then it dawned on me, Spring Fever has hit and there's just to much Testosterone in this thread....For those of you who don't know what "Spring Fever" is, it's just something that I've been told (as a joke) guys get when the weather gets nice and we all see girls in their mini skirts and shorts and feel the need to pounce. Hence explaing why there's so many November through January babies :)

LOL billy Im not sure if its even a joke, could be extremely true. I dont know about the location of everyone else but around here in this college town the skirts are defiantly coming out in full force and has me on the prowl like no other hahaha. Perfect time to finish up dieting. Jersey shore time! anyone from up around here knows EXACTLY what im talking about.

[yzrider400f]

Dude the smell of the popcorn and all the other junk food drives me absolutely nuts. I simply cant handle it without cheating. So i just dont allow myself to go...

lol, i went a few times and it just is not the same without some candy or popcorn. at this point i think i'd like any movie if i was eating candy and popcorn while watching it

[Fjock]

lol, i went a few times and it just is not the same without some candy or popcorn. at this point i think i'd like any movie if i was eating candy and popcorn while watching it

exactly man, I can admit that im just not mentally strong enough to put myself in that kind of situation without being overly tempted to cheat.. Instead i just buy movie channels through my cable service and watch em at home...

[fltallpaul]

my roomate bought a poundcake and sugary cereal for some of her family that were visiting...they day they left I asked her if she wanted any of it....she said no...I threw it all in the trash right then....gotta do what it takes.

And I saw Iron Man...twice...loved it. I am thinking of using the song at the beginning of the movie to pose to...Back in Black by ACDC.

[Fjock]

my roomate bought a poundcake and sugary cereal for some of her family that were visiting...they day they left I asked her if she wanted any of it....she said no...I threw it all in the trash right then....gotta do what it takes.

And I saw Iron Man...twice...loved it. I am thinking of using the song at the beginning of the movie to pose to...Back in Black by ACDC.

Do it man! great song... and def cant blame you for seeing it twice. With all the extra time i have with school being done and no more dieting I may have to do the same. I got another week or so until summer classes start :)

[mikez]

LOL billy Im not sure if its even a joke, could be extremely true. I dont know about the location of everyone else but around here in this college town the skirts are defiantly coming out in full force and has me on the prowl like no other hahaha. Perfect time to finish up dieting. Jersey shore time! anyone from up around here knows EXACTLY what im talking about.

lol ill be at seaside in jersey this weekend.

[Fjock]

lol ill be at seaside in jersey this weekend.

sweet man, should be a good time. Played out on Myrtle Beach eh? lol

[mikez]

sweet man, should be a good time. Played out on Myrtle Beach eh? lol

haha nah but I was just at Myrtle for bike week. I'm originally from NY so i'm just spending the summer there.

[Fjock]

haha nah but I was just at Myrtle for bike week. I'm originally from NY so i'm just spending the summer there.

nice man, I used to go to Myrtle all the time before my grand mom passed because we would always spend a few days there when coming to visit her in Dillon. I still try to get down there for the occasional round of golf, but that game is becoming MUCH tougher to play as the bodybuilding continues lol.

[jeffphoto]

Hey Guys,

I am the photographer who took the photos for bodybuilding.com of the Lehigh Valley show.
They'll be up on the site soon!
The photos that will be up on bodybuilding.com will be small low-res photos.
If you want to purchase a CD with large Hi-Res photos contact me at -
jeff.binns@verizon.net
Thanks,
Jeff

Jeff Binns Photography

www.myspace.com/fitnessphotography

[jeffphoto]

Hey Aaron,

Here's a shoot of you .
The lighting on stage was tough! as you know.
Depending on where you were on stage the lighting was either good or very bad.
I shot without a flash so I could keep up with the fast paced posing.
The shot is unedited, with a little help in PS it'll look better.

Jeff

[jeffphoto]

Here's a shot of the guest poser Dennis Wolfe.

Jeff

[Fjock]

Thanks for the update Jeff. Will be looking forward to seeing more pictures soon.

[AaronSchultz]

thanks alot jeff. the lighting was tough but that shot looks great.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/lil21aaron/aarontrophy.jpg

Junior Men's 1st Place

[yzrider400f]

that's a nice chalice you got there.
bet it's great for mixing up those pwo shakes

[Blahzay128]

thanks alot jeff. the lighting was tough but that shot looks great.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/lil21aaron/aarontrophy.jpg

Junior Men's 1st Place

DAMN Aaron.....You are jacked & shredded. What are your stats....I want to bring a similar package to the stage this October. Did you have a contest prep thread?

[tsalla]

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/lil21aaron/aarontrophy.jpg

...enough said.

Junior Men's 1st Place[/QUOTE]

[Fjock]

...enough said.

Junior Men's 1st Place

It is a very solid picture but i do believe this is the ONLY picture we have available of the entire show so far... besides the other one that aaron posted himself. Im actually more interested in seeing comparison pictures from the the Open Light heavy and Open heavy at this point if Aaron was looking like that at the night show. I thought only one lightheavy beat him. I believe we both came in much harder at night. And I believe both of our Open classes were the most competitive of the show.

[Fjock]

that's a nice chalice you got there.
bet it's great for mixing up those pwo shakes

yea the trophies are pretty sweet. Heavy as hell though!

[AaronSchultz]

DAMN Aaron.....You are jacked & shredded. What are your stats....I want to bring a similar package to the stage this October. Did you have a contest prep thread?

Thanx alot bro, no i don't have a prep thread. But if you need some advice on your Prep. you could contact Mike Knowles. He is who I used for my prep for this show.

[fologobis]

lol ill be at seaside in jersey this weekend.

haha seaside, i live in toms river so i know all about that place. jersey shore is great in the summer

[Fjock]

haha seaside, i live in toms river so i know all about that place. jersey shore is great in the summer

ill def be back and forth

[jeffphoto]

Hey Fjock,

I'll post the photos.....but you need to help me.....I don't know which ones you want. I'm not use to shooting the men! LOL!
Are they the group shots with you in them?
I have shots of all the top 5 from all classes, just dont know which are which.
I usually just shoot the women.

Jeff

[Fjock]

Hey Fjock,

I'll post the photos.....but you need to help me.....I don't know which ones you want. I'm not use to shooting the men! LOL!
Are they the group shots with you in them?
I have shots of all the top 5 from all classes, just dont know which are which.
I usually just shoot the women.

Jeff

I believe I am the only African American male in both the Junior Divison and the Open Heavyweight division. I placed 2nd place in both division. I had dark blue trunks on during the pre-judging and forest green trunks on during the night show. Hope this helps... Thanks again!

[mxsprocket1]

I believe I am the only African American male

lol, that should narrow it down quite a bit

[jeffphoto]

LOL!, That is funny, but what I ment........blah,blah,blah. Here are some photos.
Jeff

[Fjock]

I dont know why I remember being the only African American in that class but I was clearly wrong.. THANKS BRO!

btw, these are from the heavy open yall. And at the night show for the trophy presentation so no one is really posing their hardest here.

[njmuscle66]

look great bro. I think it came down to legs. Not sure if the photo just caught you not "sitting on them" or not but just need to work on that sweep a little and you will be in the hunt for sure

[Fjock]

look great bro. I think it came down to legs. Not sure if the photo just caught you not "sitting on them" or not but just need to work on that sweep a little and you will be in the hunt for sure

thanks man.. George (The winner) is a beast. I was pretty sure he was gonna take it from the beginning.. great guy

[thepacman]

I dont know why I remember being the only African American in that class but I was clearly wrong.. THANKS BRO!

btw, these are from the heavy open yall. And at the night show for the trophy presentation so no one is really posing their hardest here.

yeah my buddy from the gym is also African American...placed fourth in the open heavy there (far left in the pics).

[buffdaddy91369]

Hey Aaron,

Here's a shoot of you .
The lighting on stage was tough! as you know.
Depending on where you were on stage the lighting was either good or very bad.
I shot without a flash so I could keep up with the fast paced posing.
The shot is unedited, with a little help in PS it'll look better.

Jeff


Aaron... damn dude. Tight!

congrats

[buffdaddy91369]

LOL!, That is funny, but what I ment........blah,blah,blah. Here are some photos.
Jeff

great job Fjock. much congrats. told you that you were getting ready for big time. soon when people stare you can say "don't watch me. watch t.v. this is pay per view. you gotta pay for this" Juelz Santana - Dipset! Ay~!

[Fjock]

great job Fjock. much congrats. told you that you were getting ready for big time. soon when people stare you can say "don't watch me. watch t.v. this is pay per view. you gotta pay for this" Juelz Santana - Dipset! Ay~!

haha love tha quote bro! Thanks again for the words homey

[AaronSchultz]

Aaron... damn dude. Tight!

congrats

thanx bro

[mxsprocket1]

Soo, the majority of the pictures are up on BB.com except for the lightweight class?? : (

[Fjock]

Pffft... To those of you who claim i was bigger but aaron was much "harder and dryer"

Fjock 2nd place - http://contest.bodybuilding.com/bio/62402/

Aaron Schultz 1st place - http://contest.bodybuilding.com/bio/62392/

And ill leave it at that...

[mxsprocket1]

Hows your build coming along bro?

[Fjock]

Hows your build coming along bro?

Coming along as well as I could expect at this point bro... how about yourself?

[Fjock]

I'd love to see these...I was merely going by your 2 days out pics to your night before pics where there is no difference. But, I would love to see your stage pictures whenever you get a chance.

That day has come bud...

Perhaps now you can understand why i was a little suspicious of 1st time posters claiming to be at the show making off the wall critiques of our comparions.

[mxsprocket1]

Coming along as well as I could expect at this point bro... how about yourself?

About the same. Having a harder time putting on weight than before

[MattyH7688]

Pffft... To those of you who claim i was bigger but aaron was much "harder and dryer"

Fjock 2nd place - http://contest.bodybuilding.com/bio/62402/

Aaron Schultz 1st place - http://contest.bodybuilding.com/bio/62392/

And ill leave it at that...

wow..................................

hometown judging at its finest :D

[Fjock]

http://i25.tinypic.com/2dv8tbq.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/24zjh53.jpg

[Sean15782]

What's done is done, so don't dwell on it!

You've got so much potential bro. You can go as far as you want in this sport, I really believe that! Just use this as the motivation to fuel your workouts until next time you step on stage and leave NO doubt!

[Fjock]

What's done is done, so don't dwell on it!

You've got so much potential bro. You can go as far as you want in this sport, I really believe that! Just use this as the motivation to fuel your workouts until next time you step on stage and leave NO doubt!

Indeed, which is why i stated that i have nothing else to even say about it. But there are a few people on here in this thread that I promised to reveal these pics to when they became available which they just recently did. Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything.... its just a shame we had to wait this long to even get the pics.... And in this case, they definitely speak louder than words....

[Fjock]

As far as comparison pictures, we do it all the time in the IFBB threads after big shows... Especially when someone feels they were robbed. So there should be no biggie doing it here as well since we are mostly competitiors here. Im vowing to just not to make any further critique about the judging and what not and just let yall see what I was talking about with your own eyes... If anyone needs to refresh their memory, scroll through the rest of the thread to clearly get to sense that a number of people were waiting to see these pictures.
http://i26.tinypic.com/ezqzhf.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/2j4bmrn.jpg

[Fjock]

Hey bro that judging was def scored correctly. And no one knew any judges for your information. I said if its judged right Aaron would win. If you want to argue the fact and say that you were bigger, thats fine. But thats not what they look for in an open Junior weight class. He was harder and drier. Take into consideration that you have about 20-25 lbs on that kid. Nobody wants to hear excuses. Just be proud of what you accomplished and call it a day.


The guy that beat you out in the Junior class won because he was harder top to bottom.


http://i25.tinypic.com/28qrfw7.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2zhdunl.jpg

[Fjock]

http://i29.tinypic.com/2hoftrb.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2dwb28n.jpg

[Fjock]

For some reason no pics are available of the guy who won the heavies (George). He certainly deserved his 1st place but I wanna put up a few comparisons of the heavys other than youtube...

[mxsprocket1]

I didn't see George at this weekends comp (PA's) but heard he looked B I G

[Fjock]

I didn't see George at this weekends comp (PA's) but heard he looked B I G

Didnt know he was supposed to do that show anyway.... The guy has Usa's or junior Nats written all over him in the next couple years.

Plus If I am correct, once you win the overall at a NPC national qualifier you must most move on to a national level show.... Please correct me if im wrong.

[mxsprocket1]

Plus If I am correct, once you win the overall at a NPC national qualifier you must most move on to a national level show.... Please correct me if im wrong.

Nope, but it is frowned upon

[Fjock]

Mike, you think perhaps they missed the light-weight pictures due to the size of the class? Or at least didnt bother posting them for that reason.

[mxsprocket1]

I dont know. I found my pictures but do not know why the lightweight class was skipped

[Fjock]

I dont know. I found my pictures but do not know why the lightweight class was skipped

Glad to hear you at least got a hold of em... And once again Thanks for the pics Jeff! Excellent work :D