Escholar's First H-drol Log

[escholar05]

Hey all,
I'm gonna be starting my H-drol cycle tomarrow. This is a big step for me, the first time I've crossed "the line". Alot of thought and research went into this decision, and alot of dedication and hard work are going to be put in on this cycle. The cycle looks like the following:

Competitive Edge Labs H-drol- 50/50/50/50 or most likely 50/50/75/75
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
Taurine- 1000mg/day
Caffeine/Stims- only if I need to wake up a little before I hit the iron.
Animal Pak
Controlled Labs Purple Wraath- Intraworkout


The PCT will be as follows:
Serious Nutrition Solutions Inhibit E- 75/50/50/25
Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
Anabolic Xtreme Retain 2- 3/day
Controlled Labs Green Magnitude
Controlled Labs White Flood
Animal Pak

I'll be posting up my meals for the first few days, just to give people an idea what I'm eating, and every now and then throughout.

I'll be posting workouts, and updates on weight and stats every 10 days. I'll be doing 25 min of low intensity steady state cardio upon waking in the morning, eating breakfast, going to class, and then working out around 1-2pm. So my two h-drol doses will be at 6am and 3-4pm. I'll be taking cycle support with my 2nd meal of the day (3 scoops chocolate uni-syn), and my last of the day (2.5 scoops dymatize 12 hr+2tbsp natty pb).

Training regimen is 5 days a week-
monday-chest
tuesday- back
wednesday- off
thursday- shoulders
friday- arms
saturday- legs
sunday- off

I'll be doing one week heavy (6-8 reps) alternated with one week high rep (10-12). Every workout will include one or more of the following- drop sets, 21's, rep outs, forced reps, and partials.

Here are the starting stats:
Height- 5'9" (not really lookin for much change here, haha)
Weight- 244.5
Body Fat %- 25.4 (I know, high...its comin down, I had surgery and was laid up all winter)
Waist size- 38.5
Chest- 46
Shoulders- 53
Arms- 16.5
Thighs(midway between knee and hip)- 26
Calves- 15 (really took a hit with ankle surgery)
Forearms- 15

Goals for the log-
1. Ultimately to gain lean mass, I will be training hard and eating clean the entire cycle, its gonna be strict.
2. Hopefully lose some bf/waist size. Not a priority, but I think with clean eating and the morning cardio, it can happen.

Anything else you wanna know just ask. Hopefully this log will be interesting and informative.

[escholar05]

6:00am- wake up, 25mg H-drol, 200mg caffeine and 500mg lean green

630am- 25min elliptical at 140bpm, 12g BCAA's during

730am- 6 whole eggs, 1/2 cup oatmeal, 2 tbsp flax seeds, 2 Fish Oil Tabs, 1 Evening Primrose Tab, 2 CLA Tabs, 1 Animal Pak

930am- 3 scoops Universal Uni-syn with 1 scoop Cycle Support

1130am- 14 oz of chicken breast sauteed in 2 tbsp peanut oil, 1/2 cup (raw) long grain rice, 2 cups broccoli, 2 Fish Oil Tabs, 1 Evening Primrose Tab, 2 CLA Tabs

130pm- 50g whey, 40 g Waxi Maize, 30g dextrose, 200mg caffeine, 1,000mg taurine

200pm- chest workout, 2 scoops purple wraath during

330pm- 60g whey, 60g WMS, 35g dextrose, 25mg H-drol

530pm- 14oz chicken breast, sweet potato, green salad with olive oil and vinegar, 2 Fish Oil Tabs, 1 Evening Primrose Tab, 2 CLA Tabs

730pm- 3oz can of tuna, oat and honey granola bar

1000pm- 2.5 scoops dymatize 12 hr and 1 scoop cycle support

This is a pretty typical day for me, although for dinner I typically eat red meat instead of chicken. So thats how my diet and supplementation will look for the time I'm on H-drol, I'll update it if I start eating dramatically more.

Chest workout today:
Incline BB Bench- 185x12, 185x12, 205x10, 225x10, 235x10, 21's with 175
Flat DB Bench- 12x80's, 12x80's, 10x85's, 10x85's
Decline DB Bench- 12x70's, 10x70's, 10x70's
Flat DB Flys- 12x45's, 10x50's, 10x50's, 10x50's
Cable Crossover- 120x12, 100x15

Sides-
None to report, chest workout felt great, best pump I've had in a long time. Also the first time I haven't taken any preworkout booster for quite awhile. Got pretty nauseous after I got off the elliptical this morning, thought I was going to yak, but I kept it down. I might have to eat something small with the first dose tomarrow.

[em-dubya]

LOOKS GREAT !!Will be following

[zbtboy]

Log looks great. I look forward to seeing you results and hearing your thoughts on POST Cycle Support. sub'd. :)

[escholar05]

diet-
25 mg H-drol, 200mg caffeine, 500mg lean green
1: 6 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp flax seeds, 2 Fish Oil, 2 CLA, 1 Evening Primrose, animal pak
2: 3 scoops universal uni-syn, 1 scoop cycle support
3prewo: 50g whey, 30g WMS, 20g dextrose, large apple
4postwo: 60g whey, 60g WMS, 35g dextrose
5: 14oz sirloin, 1/2 cup rice, 2 cups broccoli, 2 Fish Oil, 2 CLA, 1 Evening Primrose
25mg H-drol
6: 2 cans tuna, 1 cup oats, 2 eggs, 2 Fish Oil, 2 CLA, 1 Evening Primrose
7: 2 scoops dymatize elite
8: 2.5 scoops dymatize 12 hr, 1 scoop cycle support

back day-
Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns (Palms facing)- 12x115, 12x115, 10x125, 10x125, 12x140

Bent Over Rows (underhand)- 12x175, 12x175, 10x185, 20x135

V-Bar Pulldowns- 10x120, 10x135, 10x145

T-Bar Rows (prison style)- 10x70, 10x95(5 sec hold on 10th), 10x105 (5 sec hold on 9th and 10th)

Cybex Pulldown Machine- 10x140, 10x160, 10x170

Deadlifts (touch and go)- 225x10, 275x10, 275x9

effects-
I was really tired all day, i dont know if it was lethargy or not, I got 8 good hours of sleep last night though.

I noticed that my chest is still really full from yesterdays workout, and I've never had that before, in fact like 3 people that see me day in and day out said "you look bigger today" to me.

Em-dub- how long until it fully kicks in, and what can I expect/look forward to when it does.

AI guys- choc peanut butter cycle support, which is horrible by itself, actually tastes pretty damn good with chocolate uni-syn and dymatize 12 hr. chocolate

[em-dubya]

Between 15-20 days is when most people start to get the most out of it--even though i felt it my first time after about a week. Do u have 2 bottles? if so you might want to go 5 weeks.

[escholar05]

I bought 2 because I was planning on going 50/50/75/75, which will still leave me some leftover. will 5 weeks do any excessive liver damage or produce diminishing returns?

[LCking187]

if i'm not mistaken if you keep taking your cycle support throughout, then you SHOULD be able to go 6 weeks w/o to much excessive damage on the liver

[escholar05]

I think 5 weeks will be as long as I feel safe going. I take lipitor for high cholesterol, and I know that also stresses the liver, so I dont want to chance anything.

[escholar05]

diet-
25mg h-drol
1: 6 eggs, 1/2 cup oatmeal, 2 tbsp flax seeds, 4 MRM smart blend
2: 1 packet labrada lean body and 1 scoop cycle support
3: 6 chicken quesadillas (favorite lunch at the sorority), 4 MRM smart blend
4prewo: 50g whey, apple
5postwo: 60g VPX zero carb, 60g vitargo CGL
25mg h-drol
6: 12oz chicken, 1/2 cup (pre cooked) long grain rice, 4 MRM smart blend
7: 50g dymatize elite 12 hr and 1 scoop cycle support

Training-
BB Shoulder Press- 12x135, 12x145, 10x155, 10x175, 9x185

Giant Set:
Bent Over Laterals- 10x25's, 10x25's, 8x25's, 8x25's
Upright Rows- 10x70, 10x70, 8x80, 8x80
Side Laterals- 10x20's, 10x20's, 8x20's, 8x20's

Super Set-
Cybex Shoulder Press- 10x70, 10x90, 10x100
Cybex Read Delt- 10x30, 10x40, 10x40

DB Shrugs- 20x100's, 20x100's


no negative sides, but really starting to feel fuller in the gym. Hopfully it hits me like a brick wall soon here, I can't wait.

[escholar05]

diet is pretty much the same as yesterday. Today I took 25mg of h-drol when I woke up at 6:45, and then another 25mg at 1pm, about an hour before my workout, and I definately noticed a difference. Em-dubya, if this dosing makes sense to you, please let me know or suggest somethin different. I'm still not really feelin it, just alot better pumps during the workout.

training-
Close Grip Bench- 12x205, 12x225, 10x245, 10x255, 9x275

Straight BB Curl- 12x75, 12x75, 10x85, 21's x 55, 21's x 55

Skull Crushers- 12x85, 12x105, 10x115, 10x115

Cable Rope Hammer Curls- 12x90, 12x90, 10x100, 10x110 (hold on 8,9, and 10 on last 2 sets)

Elbows Flared Pushdowns- 12x130, 27(failure)x140, 18(failure)x140

EZ Preacher Curl- 12x55, 18x55, dropsets of 55, 35, and the bar each to failure


Like I said up top, not really feelin anything yet, hopefully it kicks in soon.

[em-dubya]

I bought 2 because I was planning on going 50/50/75/75, which will still leave me some leftover. will 5 weeks do any excessive liver damage or produce diminishing returns?
No 5 weeks will be fine( 6 probably would also with liver care thru out)

diet is pretty much the same as yesterday. Today I took 25mg of h-drol when I woke up at 6:45, and then another 25mg at 1pm, about an hour before my workout, and I definately noticed a difference. Em-dubya, if this dosing makes sense to you, please let me know or suggest somethin different. I'm still not really feelin it, just alot better pumps during the workout.

training-
Close Grip Bench- 12x205, 12x225, 10x245, 10x255, 9x275

Straight BB Curl- 12x75, 12x75, 10x85, 21's x 55, 21's x 55

Skull Crushers- 12x85, 12x105, 10x115, 10x115

Cable Rope Hammer Curls- 12x90, 12x90, 10x100, 10x110 (hold on 8,9, and 10 on last 2 sets)

Elbows Flared Pushdowns- 12x130, 27(failure)x140, 18(failure)x140

EZ Preacher Curl- 12x55, 18x55, dropsets of 55, 35, and the bar each to failure


Like I said up top, not really feelin anything yet, hopefully it kicks in soon.

Answered in post #6

[Musclefever]

subbed

[escholar05]

Answered in post #6

I was asking if the taking one upon waking at 645am and one at 1pm an hour before my workout was a good dosing idea, or if they were too close together.

[em-dubya]

I was asking if the taking one upon waking at 645am and one at 1pm an hour before my workout was a good dosing idea, or if they were too close together.

OH , sorry. With Hdrol they can be taken at the same time if you like. It has a better half life than most but if you perfer to split it up thats fine.

[escholar05]

Leg day-
Leg Extensions- 100x12, 110x12, 120x10, 130x10

Narrow Hack Squats- 150x12, 160x12, 180x12, 200x10, 260x10 drop to 220 for 10

Leg Press- 12x6 plates, 12x8 plates, 10x10, 10x10

Squats(atg)- 205x10, 205x10, 205x22

Lying Hamstring Curls- 75x12, 90x12, 90x10, 100x10

Standing Hamstring- 20x12, 25x12, 25x12

SLDL- 175x15, 175x15

Side Effects-
Had a terrible back pump for almost the entire leg workout, really limited me on squats. I think I need to up the taurine preworkout.

[em-dubya]

HHMMM.. Back pumps are not too common with Hdrol ,but if you are have them you need to be taking between 5-7 g aday.

[escholar05]

I've always gotten them doing legs, but never this bad, so its not totally the h-drol, but I'm think its contributing in some way.

[escholar05]

Starting to really feel the effects the last two days, especially on heavy chest day today, I felt so much stronger, it was almost like easy. Also, I am rediculously hungry what seems like every half hour, I'm just constantly shoveling protein and complex carbs into my mouth. No negative sides, and I'm also up to 248 dry in the morning.


training-
Flat BB Bench- 225x10, 245x8, 265x8, 275x8, 315x6+ 3 unassisted negatives

Decline DB Bench- 10x80's, 10x85's, 8x85's, 8x90's

Incline DB Bench- 8x75's, 8x85's, 8x85's

Incline DB Flys- 10x45's, 10x50's, 8x55's, 8x55's

Cable Crossover (I go, you go)- 80x10, 80x10, 80x10

[escholar05]

and it begins...I was hungry all day, no matter what I ate, I was hungry 10 minutes later, I ate like every hour to hour and a half today. Training was rediculous, Training was off the hook, I can't really describe it, its just a mentalilty that comes over you. I feel stronger, I can do more, I feel fuller and more pumped, its just a great feeling. Just with the increased appetite and the intensity of the workouts, I cant wait to see what happens now.

diet-
25mg H-drol, 500mg lean green, 200mg caffeine

1: 7 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp flax, 4 mrm smart blend
2: Labrada lean body packet, scoop cycle support
3: 14oz sirloin, 1/2 cup rice, 2 cups broccoli, 4 mrm smart blend

25mg H-drol, 500mg lean green, 200mg caffeine

4pre: 2 scoops CNP professional ProPeptide, oat and honey granola bar
intra: 5 scoops Xtend
5post: 60g VPX zero carb, 60g Vitargo CGL

6: 12oz sirloin (out to eat with parents), mashed potatoes, salad, 4 mrm smart blend
7: can of tuna and almonds
8: 50 g Dymatize 12 hr

training-
Wide grip pulldown- 10x115, 8x130, 8x130, 8x130, 6x145+4 negatives

Bent Over Row- 10x155, 8x175, 8x185, 8x195, 6x225

Underhand Hammer Pulldown- 10x140, 8x160, 8x160, 8x180

T-bar Row- 10x90, 8(hold 8)x100, 8(hold 7,8)x110, 8(hold 6,7,8)x120

DB Pullovers(big stretch)- 8x50, 8x60, 8x60

Deadlift (touch and go, constant tension)- 225x8, 275x8, 315x7

[Dako14]

Update?

[escholar05]

I must have forgotten to press submit last night...

diet-
1: 7 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp flax
2: mrp shake
3pre: 45g protein blend, oat and honey granola bar
4post: 50g whey iso, 60g WMS
5: 12oz chicken, 1/2 cup long grain rice, 2 cups broccoil
6: 14oz sirloin, 1/2 cup long grain rice, green salad
7: 3oz tuna, 1/2 cup oats
8: 55g protein blend

training-
Standing BB Push Press- 155x10, 175x8, 175x8, 185x8, 205x6

Cable Bent Over Laterals- 30x10, 35x8(hold 8), 35x8(hold 7, 8), 35x8(hold 6, 7, 8)

DB Side Laterals- 30's x10, 35's x8(hold 8), 35's x8(hold 7, 8), 35's x8(hold 6, 7, 8)

Reverse Underhand Overhead DB Laterals- 25x8, 30x8, 30x8

Hang Cleans- 155x8, 175x8

BB Shrugs- 225x20, 265x15, 295x10, 315x8

[escholar05]

diet-
25mg H-drol, 500mg lean green, 200mg caffeine

1: 7 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp flax, 4 mrm smart blend
2: Labrada lean body packet, scoop cycle support
3: 12oz chicken, 1/2 cup rice, 2 cups broccoli, 4 mrm smart blend

25mg H-drol, 500mg lean green, 200mg caffeine

4pre: 2 scoops CNP professional ProPeptide, oat and honey granola bar
intra: 5 scoops Xtend
5post: 60g VPX zero carb, 60g Vitargo CGL

6: chipotle steak burrito, 4 mrm smart blend
7: can of tuna and almonds
8: 50 g Dymatize 12 hr

training-
Close Grip Bench- 225x10, 245x8, 265x8, 295x8, 335x6, rest pause with 225 to 15 reps

Straight BB Curl- 65x10, 75x8, 75x8, 85x8, 105x6, rest pause with 75 to 20 reps

Overhead Tricep Rope Ext's- 80x8, 95x8, 115x8, 125x8

Preacher Curls- 65x8, 65x8, 75x8, 75x8(5 sec negative)

Tricep DB Kickbacks- 20x10, 30x8, 40x8

High Pulley Cable Curls- 96x10, 120x8, 120x8

335x6 on close grip is rediculous for me. I've just seen a rediculous strength increase all week, and I'm visibly putting on size. No complaints thus far.

[escholar05]

Really hectic weekend, heres yesterdays leg workout:

Leg Extensions- 10x110, 10x120, 8x130, 8x140
Squats- 10x205, 8x225, 8x245, 8x265, 8x295, 10x315
Leg Press- 8x8plates, 8x10plates, 8x10plates, 8x12plates
Hack Squats- 220x8, 250x8, 280x8
Lying Ham Curls- 90x10, 90x10, 100x8, 110x8
Standing Ham Curls- 24x10, 24x10, 30x10
SLDL's- 155x15, 175x15

Coming up on the end of 2 weeks on h-drol, and I am completely satisfied. Workouts have been rediculous, and I'm seeing results EVERYDAY. Not only am I seeing them personally, which has always been difficult for me to tell, people that see me everyday have commented on how much bigger I've gotten. I will weigh tomarrow morning to update the weight.

[escholar05]

Morning weight was 248.5

[escholar05]

diet-
25mg h-drol, 200mg caffeine, 500mg lean green
1: 7 eggs, 1/2 cup oatmeal, 2 tbsp flax seeds, 4 mrm smart blend
2: labrada lean body mrp shake, scoop cycle support

50mg h-drol, 200mg caffeine, 500mg lean green
3: 2 scoops cnp propeptide, 1/2 cup oats
intra: 5 scoops xtend
4: 2.5 scoops VPX zero carb, 2 scoops vitargo CGL

5: 14 oz steak, 1/2 cup rice, 2 cups broccoli, 4 mrm smart blend
6: 2 cans tuna, 1 cup oats, 2 eggs, 4 mrm smart blend
7: 12 oz chicken breast
8: 60g dymatize 12 hr

chest workout-
Incline BB Bench- 12x185, 12x205, 12x225, 10x235, 10x245, 10x255
Flat DB Bench- 12x80's, 12x80's, 10x90's, 10x90's
Pec Deck Cable Flys- 12x70, 12x70, 10x80, 10x80
Decline DB's- 12x80's, 12x80's, 12x90's
Dips- 22, 20, 16

I'm bumping up to 75mg/day for the last 3 weeks, so we'll see how things play out. Had a great workout today, I did a ton of sets with pretty good weights, and still felt like I had more in me.

[escholar05]

diet-
25mg h-drol, 200mg caffeine, 500mg lean green
1: 7 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 2tbsp flax seeds, 4 mrm smart blend
2: Labrada lean body packet, scoop cycle support
3: 12oz chicken, 1/2 cup long grain rice, 4 mrm smart blend

50mg h-drol, 200mg caffeine, 500mg lean green
intra- 5 scoops xtend
4post: 2.5 scoops VPX Zero Carb, 2 scoops Vitargo CGL
5: 14oz sirloin, 1/2 cup long grain rice, 4 mrm smart blend
6: 2 scoops cnp ProPeptide, 1/2 cup oats
7: can of tuna and 1/4 cup almonds
8: 2 scoops dymatize 12 hr, scoop cycle support

training-
Wide Grip Lat Pulldown- 105x12, 115x12, 125x12, 125x10, 135x10, 145x10

Bent Over Rows- 12x175, 12x175, 10x205, 10x205 drop to 135 for 9

V-Bar Pulldown- 12x115, 12x125, 10x135, 10x150 drop to 115 for 8

DB Row- 10x70's, 10x70's, 10x70's

Straight Arm Pushdown- 12x35, 12x35, 10x50, 10x50

Sumo Deadlifts- 12x225, 12x225

I've really noticed the last few sessions that I really don't want to stop lifting. I think I did alot today, and I was still looking for one more excercise to do, and I would have if I wouldn't have had to go to office hours. But endurance and drive is way through the roof in the gym.

[stevey]

man you have almost the exact same cycle with the exact same pct i will be doing except for cycle support and we also have the same routine. good luck.

[cyrusthesandman]

Looks good man! I'm curious to see how it goes at 75 a day.

[msucurt]

Planning on running h-drol also...starting monday. Here is my PCT. Im going to try and add mass / cut bodyfat with this run of hdrol, so my calories im not sure of right.


PCT: (4weeks)

Nolva: 20/20/10/10
Post Cycle Support: 4 caps/day
Lean Xtreme: 3/day (start day 15)
I3C : 600 mgs/ed
6-oxo: tapered down starting in week 4--300ed /200ed /100ed

[escholar05]

yesterdays workout (I've been crazy busy with final papers):

standing shoulder press- 135x12, 135x12, 135x12, 155x10, 155x10, 175x11

Bent Over Laterals- 10x25's, 10x25's, 10x30's, 10x30's
-superset with-
Side Laterals- 10x25's, 10x25's, 10x30's, 10x30's

Low Cable Singles- 35x10, 45x10, 45x10

Upright Rows- 70x10, 70x10, 70x10
-superset with-
Cybex Rear Delt- 50x10, 50x10, 50x10


I was at 75mg/day for 3 days (mon, tue, wed) and felt awful...headaches, couldnt sleep, felt really weak and tired, cold sweats...just no good. yesterday I went back down to 50mg, and thats what I'm gonna stay at, and hopefully go to 5 weeks. I feel a night and day difference between 50 and 75, and I've had great results so far at 50.

I'll have todays diet and training up in the next few hours here.

EDIT- I also wanted to add in that I'm considering picking up some Liver Longer for PCT, and then at the conclusion of PCT running a whole body detox (probably Lee Haney's detox) any opinons?

[em-dubya]

That was a good decision to go back down -maybe in aweek try going back up again

[escholar05]

That was a good decision to go back down -maybe in aweek try going back up again

what would be different in a week?

[escholar05]

diet-
1: labrada lean body shake
25mg h-drol
2: 7 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp flax seeds, animal pak, 4 mrm smart blend
3: 12oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup long grain rice,4 mrm smart blend
25mg h-drol, 200mg caffeine, 500mg lean green
4pre: 50g cnp propeptide, 1/2 cup oats
intra- 5 scoops xtend
5post: 60g vitargo cgl, 50g vpx zero carb
6: 14oz sirloin, 1/2 cup long grain rice, 4 mrm smart blend
7: can of tuna, 1/4 cup almonds
8: 50g protein blend

training-
straight bar curl- 12x75, 12x75, 12x85, 10x85, 10x95, 10x95
-superset with-
skull crushers- 12x85, 12x85, 12x105, 10x105, 10x125, 10x125

rope hammer curls- 12x70, 12x90, 10x100, 10x100
-superset with-
behind back overhead rope tricep- 12x100, 12x110, 10x130, 10x130

cable concentration curls- 10x60, 10x60, 10x70

elbows flared pushdowns- 10x110, 10x120, 10x120

[em-dubya]

what would be different in a week?

You may adjust to it then. Headaches , trouble sleeping etc , usually is from BP or dehydration. Try increasing you water intake...If i dont drink mega water on hdrol ,the same happens to me.

[escholar05]

I'm at like 1.5 gal a day, plus .5 intra workout. that sound like enough?

[em-dubya]

I'm at like 1.5 gal a day, plus .5 intra workout. that sound like enough?

Justtry going up a bit and see if that helps- You are taking Hawthorn or something for BP ? right?

[escholar05]

yea, I'm taking cycle support 2x/day. I will try increasing the water a bit more, but now that I've been back down to 50 for 3 days I feel great.

[escholar05]

weighed myself this morning, 251.3, so thats almost 7 pounds, with a very visible decrease in bodyfat also.

[cyrusthesandman]

Up 7 lbs and losing bf. Thats awesome bro!

[escholar05]

Legs today-

Leg Extension warmup- 12x100, 12x110, 10x120, 10x130

Leg Press- 12x8plates, 12x9plates, 12x9plates, 10x10plates, 10x10plates, 10x12plates

Hack Squats- 12x180, 12x200, 10x220, 10x240

Squats- 10x245, 10x265, 10x295

Standing Ham Curls- 12x25, 12x25, 10x25, 10x25

Lying Ham Curls- 12x80, 12x80, 12x90

[escholar05]

diet-
1: 7 eggs, 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp flax, 4 MRM smart blend, animal pak
2: labrada lean body, cycle support
3: 12 oz cnp pro peptide, oat and honey granola bar
5post: 60g vitargo cgl, 50g vpx zero carb
6: 14oz sirloin, 1/2 cup long grain rice, 2 cups broccoli, 4 MRM smart blend
7: 50g cnp propeptide, oat and honey granola bar, 1/4 cup almonds
8: 50g dymatize 12 hr, cycle support

huge pr day-

flat BB bench- 245x8, 265x8, 285x8, 305x6, 325x6, 355x5!!
incline DB bench- 10x80's, 10x80's, 8x90's, 8x90's
Flat DB Fly- 8x50's, 8x55's, 8x60's, 8x60's
Low Cable Crossover- 10x100, 10x100, 10x100
BW Dips- 16, 12

Wow, talk about a strength gain. Up until 325, it just felt almost easy. I'll be going heavy all week to finish up my 4 week cycle.

[escholar05]

back day-

wide grip lat pulldowns- 180x8, 180x8, 180x8, 195x6, 195x6, 205x6

bent over BB rows- 185x8, 185x8, 185x8, 205x8

close grip lat pulldown- 150x8, 150x8, 150x8

T-bar rows- 115x8, 135x8, 135x8

straight arm pulldowns- 50x10, 50x10

Deadlifts- 275x6, 365x6, 405x2

[Dako14]

How did the last week of H-drol treat you?

[escholar05]

How did the last week of H-drol treat you?

Really well, I started PCT this morning. I have been crazy busy all week writing up final papers, but I hit huge PR's in bench (355x4), deads(405x2), shoulder press(250x4) and squats (435x4).

This morning I was 254.0, which is a solid 10 pounds.

PCT is going to consist of ATD at 75/50/50/25, 3x/day Retain 2, 4x/day Post Cycle Support, and a 30 day herbal liver cleanse reccomended by my chiropractor.

I stopped the cycle a few days early because I was starting to get really tired, and was losing my appetite. I think that combination of a methyl, lipitor, and high cholesterol was alot for my liver. I am gonna start taking a basic liver support all the time now, and next cycle I will take cycle support and liver longer.

[escholar05]

post cycle measurements-

weight- 254.0
Body Fat %- getting dipped next thursday
Waist size- 38.5 (no change)
Chest- 46.5 (+0.5)
Shoulders- 55 (+2)
Arms- 17.25(+0.75)
Thighs(midway between knee and hip)- 26.75(+0.75)
Calves- 15.75 (+.75)
Forearms- 15 (no change)

[Kernkraft]

Solid cycle man, looks like everything went great and as planned with the hdrol - huge strength gains and fat loss. Keep updating as far as how pct goes etc :cool:

[em-dubya]

Glad you are happy with it Escholar!!!! I knew you would be.

[escholar05]

I actually took the last two days off of training, I deliver ice for a job and memorial day weekend has been crazy. I'll be resuming training tomorrow.

I feel great so far, my libido hasn't changed at all(good thing), I have a ton of energy, and oddly enough, I've like noticably leaned out around my midsection, and its only been 3-4 days. My gf made that observation.

My testicles had started to be a little bit sore the last 2-3 days of my cycle, but they feel normal now.

Weight is down to 252, but thats mostly due to the fact that I've been working my ass off all weekend, and it's hard to get the necessary calories while driving a truck. That being said, I'm still managing 400 or so grams of protein per day. It's just really the carbs that have been cut.

No complaints so far, can't wait to do it all again come october-novemberish.

[Kernkraft]

I actually took the last two days off of training, I deliver ice for a job and memorial day weekend has been crazy. I'll be resuming training tomorrow.

I feel great so far, my libido hasn't changed at all(good thing), I have a ton of energy, and oddly enough, I've like noticably leaned out around my midsection, and its only been 3-4 days. My gf made that observation.

My testicles had started to be a little bit sore the last 2-3 days of my cycle, but they feel normal now.

Weight is down to 252, but thats mostly due to the fact that I've been working my ass off all weekend, and it's hard to get the necessary calories while driving a truck. That being said, I'm still managing 400 or so grams of protein per day. It's just really the carbs that have been cut.

No complaints so far, can't wait to do it all again come october-novemberish.

Make sure you find a way no matter what to keep the cals up to speed during pct. Very essential or you'll lose a lot of your gains, hopefully you have some Xtend or other BCAA's as well. I hear you on being busy as **** though - I cook out all my meals and tupperware that **** for a week or two - freeze if you're worried about spoiling food and just pull it out the night before into the fridge.

BTW, you're a truck yourself man at 252lbs (no homo) :cool:

[escholar05]

Yea, i drank xtend all weekend, so I'm sure that helped. Luckily for future weekends, I found a great recipe for like 500 calorie protein bars that I can make and freeze. Once my pct period is over, I'm probably gonna go keto for 1 or 2 months, because I know that with the hard labor over the summer I can put a big dent in the bf level. For pct though I'll still be shooting for the 3700-4000 range.

The truck comment is appreciated, I'm slowly trying to shape that truck status into more of a bb'er, haha.

[escholar05]

Got dipped today to test bodyfat, and I had been dipped 8 weeks ago, and I was able to compare the results

8 weeks ago-
Bodyweight- 243.6
Bodyfat %- 26.8%
Lean Mass- 178.32

Today-
Bodyweight- 249.8
Bodyfat %- 24.1 (-2.7!!!!)
Lean Mass- 189.68 (+11!!!!!)

I worked my ass off the entire cycle, ate incredibly clean, and I got great results, as evidenced by the hydrostatic weighing tests. I am extremely satisfied with these results, and I plan on having my bf % down to 15-17% by september. Thanks to Em-dubya for all his help with all my questions, and to everyone who followed along. I'll continue to post every week of PCT to let everyone know how its going.

[Kernkraft]

Got dipped today to test bodyfat, and I had been dipped 8 weeks ago, and I was able to compare the results

8 weeks ago-
Bodyweight- 243.6
Bodyfat %- 26.8%
Lean Mass- 178.32

Today-
Bodyweight- 249.8
Bodyfat %- 24.1 (-2.7!!!!)
Lean Mass- 189.68 (+11!!!!!)

I worked my ass off the entire cycle, ate incredibly clean, and I got great results, as evidenced by the hydrostatic weighing tests. I am extremely satisfied with these results, and I plan on having my bf % down to 15-17% by september. Thanks to Em-dubya for all his help with all my questions, and to everyone who followed along. I'll continue to post every week of PCT to let everyone know how its going.

Dude those are awesome freakin results!!! Congrats :cool: !!!! Gain in overall bodyweight, loss of 2+% BF, and +11 in lean body mass!!!!

[escholar05]

Dude those are awesome freakin results!!! Congrats :cool: !!!! Gain in overall bodyweight, loss of 2+% BF, and +11 in lean body mass!!!!

Thanks. I was very pleased with my first cycle, I was really scared to do a first cycle, but now that I have some experience under my belt I'm looking forward to doing more. I will aim for 2 a year, 3 at most if the timing works out. Thanks for following along.

[ironhead184]

Congrats on your great log. Do you have any updates? How are you strength wise? Have you lost any? How's you blood pressure too?

[escholar05]

Congrats on your great log. Do you have any updates? How are you strength wise? Have you lost any? How's you blood pressure too?


I haven't lost any strength, bp is normal, liver enzymes are normal, cholesterol is high, but normal for my genetics (~250).

It was a great cycle, one that I will be looking to repeat in the future.

For future methyl cycles, I will be preloading and megadosing hawthorne and CoQ10, along with a basic liver support like AX's perfect cycle, I wasnt that impressed by cycle support.

[CROWLER]

Hey all,
I'm gonna be starting my H-drol cycle tomarrow. This is a big step for me, the first time I've crossed "the line". Alot of thought and research went into this decision, and alot of dedication and hard work are going to be put in on this cycle. The cycle looks like the following:

Competitive Edge Labs H-drol- 50/50/50/50 or most likely 50/50/75/75
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
Taurine- 1000mg/day
Caffeine/Stims- only if I need to wake up a little before I hit the iron.
Animal Pak
Controlled Labs Purple Wraath- Intraworkout


The PCT will be as follows:
Serious Nutrition Solutions Inhibit E- 75/50/50/25
Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
Anabolic Xtreme Retain 2- 3/day
Controlled Labs Green Magnitude
Controlled Labs White Flood
Animal Pak

I'll be posting up my meals for the first few days, just to give people an idea what I'm eating, and every now and then throughout.

I'll be posting workouts, and updates on weight and stats every 10 days. I'll be doing 25 min of low intensity steady state cardio upon waking in the morning, eating breakfast, going to class, and then working out around 1-2pm. So my two h-drol doses will be at 6am and 3-4pm. I'll be taking cycle support with my 2nd meal of the day (3 scoops chocolate uni-syn), and my last of the day (2.5 scoops dymatize 12 hr+2tbsp natty pb).

Training regimen is 5 days a week-
monday-chest
tuesday- back
wednesday- off
thursday- shoulders
friday- arms
saturday- legs
sunday- off

I'll be doing one week heavy (6-8 reps) alternated with one week high rep (10-12). Every workout will include one or more of the following- drop sets, 21's, rep outs, forced reps, and partials.

Here are the starting stats:
Height- 5'9" (not really lookin for much change here, haha)
Weight- 244.5
Body Fat %- 25.4 (I know, high...its comin down, I had surgery and was laid up all winter)
Waist size- 38.5
Chest- 46
Shoulders- 53
Arms- 16.5
Thighs(midway between knee and hip)- 26
Calves- 15 (really took a hit with ankle surgery)
Forearms- 15

Goals for the log-
1. Ultimately to gain lean mass, I will be training hard and eating clean the entire cycle, its gonna be strict.
2. Hopefully lose some bf/waist size. Not a priority, but I think with clean eating and the morning cardio, it can happen.

Anything else you wanna know just ask. Hopefully this log will be interesting and informative.


WOOT another log with Cycle Support and POST Cycle Support :)

Thanks escholar


CROWLER

[ironhead184]

I haven't lost any strength, bp is normal, liver enzymes are normal, cholesterol is high, but normal for my genetics (~250).

It was a great cycle, one that I will be looking to repeat in the future.

For future methyl cycles, I will be preloading and megadosing hawthorne and CoQ10, along with a basic liver support like AX's perfect cycle, I wasnt that impressed by cycle support.

Thanks for the reply and that's great that there's been no strenght loss.

How was mood while on hdrol?

[escholar05]

Thanks for the reply and that's great that there's been no strenght loss.

How was mood while on hdrol?

Mood was great, especially towards the end, felt bulletproof in the gym, and just generally great.

[masteroftheuniv]

Great log escholar05!!! Very informative log and impresive numbers.

How was your libido on hdrol from start to finish? And did you notice any sides? Thanks

[escholar05]

Libido was normal to high, I couldnt really tell, I guess you could say I kept a libido consistent with a 21 year old college student, haha.

I started to have some digestive issues that I have never had before, which made me think that maybe liver issues came into play, but I was born with high cholesterol and I've taken Lipitor since I was 12, so in a normal person I would imagine that wouldnt come into play. For my next cycle I will be megadosing silymarin, NAC, ALA, and taking thermolife liver longer on top of that. Also, I am taking the former three full time until my next cycle. Like I said, in a normal person, probably no side effects.

[masteroftheuniv]

Thank you so much for the info!!

I forgot how being 21 and in college can have an impact on ones libido lol!

Right now I'm on day 4 of BCL Super Halo (hdrol), and I do feel that I can lift more and last longer in the gym which you stated in your log.

Hopefully your cholesterol can stay in check and good luck with your pct.

[masteroftheuniv]

Thank you so much for the info!!

I forgot how being 21 and in college can have an impact on ones libido lol!

Right now I'm on day 4 of BCL Super Halo (hdrol), and I do feel that I can lift more and last longer in the gym which you stated in your log.

Hopefully your cholesterol can stay in check and good luck with your pct.

Reps!

[escholar05]

Thank you so much for the info!!

I forgot how being 21 and in college can have an impact on ones libido lol!

Right now I'm on day 4 of BCL Super Halo (hdrol), and I do feel that I can lift more and last longer in the gym which you stated in your log.

Hopefully your cholesterol can stay in check and good luck with your pct.

Reps!

Wait till like day 10-14, heavy weights feel light, the strength increase is rediculous.

Cholesterol is as good as it can be, 80mg of Lipitor a day keeps it at a respectable 250, haha.

PCT has been over for 2 or so weeks, if I were you I'd use 6-oxo or something other than plain ATD, you will completely lose the desire to have sex, haha.

[ironhead184]

Mood was great, especially towards the end, felt bulletproof in the gym, and just generally great.

Thanks for the reply. That sounds great. I know some people just feel like crap on sd throughout the whole day. It's great the h-drol doesn't seem to do this.