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the_fake_webmaster

03-10-2003, 05:05 PM

Find out what Terry Banawich thinks that 30 lies of bodybuilding are!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/30lies.htm

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Smalley

03-11-2003, 08:19 AM

edited.. totally misread article, sorry.

wmuscle

03-13-2003, 06:31 PM

HI Terry,

I just have a question about any creditails you may have.

SPN, RD , LDN, ISSA, ACE, DTR? any ?

With all do respect , I have read some of your claims and do not agree with a few. I am not trying to sound cocky or "dickheadish" . I just want some clarifications and some reassurance that you are accredited.

Thanks

EricS

03-14-2003, 02:23 PM

Credentials have nothing to do whether the information is valid. I wouldn't even consider ISSA a "Credential" but a confidence builder.

ACE is more about the ethical side of being a trainer and doesn't even cover 1/2 of the matieral he went it to.

And although it is becoming better, an RD is not going to veer far from the text book or the RDA.

It is strange that people put so much trust in these letters even if they don't know what the organizations teach or what the cert actually involoves as far as base line education.

And what if he is certified, that shouldn't change your opinion as to what you think is right and wrong. At least I hope it wouldn't.

wmuscle

03-14-2003, 06:14 PM

yes creditials do matter.

His information isn't valid if given by someone or something with no creditials. Who is to say they are right? ISSA, and ACE may not matter true. However, someone with a SPN, Sports nutrition degree possibly someone with a Biology degreee or excersise physiology or kinesiology, those do matter. And there are a few of his claims that are NOT true, i am not trying to flame him and anyway. But he gives no references, no documentation, no creditials what so ever, or sources. So how can you say that creditials don't matter, they don't have to creditials given to him, but he needs to give credit to source he get his info from and make sure they and he are correct !!!!

Beast

03-15-2003, 02:50 PM

First hand experience is more important than any degree or certification.

A person who has never touched a weight before can get certified by ACE or ISSA. Does that mean that he is ready to be a personal trainer? I don't think so. There is book knowledge and there is knowledge gained through experience. Which ever one is more important is your choice.

Mark21087

03-16-2003, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by Beast
First hand experience is more important than any degree or certification.

A person who has never touched a weight before can get certified by ACE or ISSA. Does that mean that he is ready to be a personal trainer? I don't think so. There is book knowledge and there is knowledge gained through experience. Which ever one is more important is your choice.

Agreed. There is a certified ISSA personal trainer who used to go to my gym. The gym owner and I saw him teaching incorrect exercise form. The result was that two of his clients were injured badly because of his teaching. Needless to say, he was banned from the gym.

wmuscle

03-16-2003, 02:10 PM

I said that ACE and ISSA didn't matter, but the others do, but he is making his claims as if they are true for everyone and not just for himself and a few others .

EricS

03-16-2003, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by wmuscle
yes creditials do matter.

His information isn't valid if given by someone or something with no creditials. Who is to say they are right? ISSA, and ACE may not matter true. However, someone with a SPN, Sports nutrition degree possibly someone with a Biology degreee or excersise physiology or kinesiology, those do matter. And there are a few of his claims that are NOT true, i am not trying to flame him and anyway. But he gives no references, no documentation, no creditials what so ever, or sources. So how can you say that creditials don't matter, they don't have to creditials given to him, but he needs to give credit to source he get his info from and make sure they and he are correct !!!!

I think you missed the point. He could very well be a SPN and still say the same thing. Just because someone has a specific cred doesn't mean that they are going to tell it by the book. Atkins has a Phd and has thousands of refferences for everything he says, but all of the "trusted" health professionals says that he is a menace and killing off the world. Who is right?

secondly, BB.com doesn't censor or discriminate against anyone. Anyone can write anything. And if you are in the health sciences, Im sure you know that the "science" of training/nutrition isn't all that exact anyway. Things as regarded as periodization are based on very little. Bompa put the basics together simply from his personal observations through his years of training.

The various repetition ranges were origonally assigned because specific athletes used them so researchers concluded that must be the right way. It is actually rather interesting to go back through the history of sports science and see where alot of this stuff comes from! "My coach did it, his coach did it, his coach did it, his coach before him. So thats how we do it!"

You can gripe over the credentials all you want, but I would have to challenge you to go through the entire BB.com site and pick out the articles that don't have a sound basis, refferences or "correct" information. I can assure you, you will be at it for a very long time.

wmuscle

03-17-2003, 09:29 AM

you make a very good and interesting point. I stand not so much as corrected just put to more of a realization.

EricS

03-17-2003, 12:23 PM

next time, if you have a problem with an article and wish to give it a critque, it would be much more productive to point out what is wrong in the article and explain why it is wrong rather than attacking the person.

atticus_a

04-19-2003, 01:01 PM

I think that the article is well written and informative. I don't know what his credentials are nor do I care. I could not find any information that is incorrect in his article. Most of the points that he illustrates are notions that people believe and are incorrect. Which points do you have a problem with?

Unregistered

01-05-2005, 08:25 AM

This article should be required reading, a prerequisite for all Gold's Gyms and the like. I am a Registered Nurse and a weightlifter and I am glad to see that someone is spreading the word of reason against what seems to be an unstoppable tide of misinformation and physiological drivel that comes from who knows where. In a world of boob jobs and tanning salons where body building is just another beauty contest that has nothing to do with real beauty we need all the words of reason and truth we can get. Thank you.

~jAmeZ~

01-06-2005, 06:40 PM

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The real authors of this article are TC Luoma and Bill Phillips. It was called "30 of Bodybuilding's Biggest Lies" and appeared in an edition of Muscle Media 2000.

http://people.uleth.ca/~s.simard/Weight_training_II/30_biggest%20lies.htm

chewwy

01-07-2005, 11:54 AM

Unregistered

05-16-2006, 12:33 PM

I don't really care who wrote the article. Most of what is in here is true according to everything I know and have read. I think most people are going to take the information that makes good common sense and stick with it as I am. Good article from whomever wrote it.

Unregistered

12-16-2006, 05:26 AM

I agree with the rest of the crowd on the accuracy of this article.

However, the entitlement may be irritating, since "Bodybuilding" as a object or noun is not "lying" and suggest a more accurate title would be something along the lines of "30 Myths All Bodybuilders Should Avoid in Training"

And, in some areas it is simply too long and many 'lies' or 'myths' could be stated with 1/3 to 1/2 words.

Remember, men use 900-1,200 words per day and women use 4,500-6,000.